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 Proton e.Mas 7 - RM120K, EV buatan Malaysia

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celciuz
post Oct 26 2024, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Oct 26 2024, 11:05 AM)
Just came back from Pauline's ACE 2024 in Setia Alam. Proton announced their e.Mas 7 goes for RM120K! Rebate 1.5K for booking now. Suicide pricing for national car? Even if CKD, I doubt it can a lot lower.
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RM1,000 worth of gift + RM500 cashback, so I think technically is just RM500 rebate. The other RM1,000 comes in form of gifts I guess, probably 3pin charger or so.

Proton X70 goes up to 126k... this one if tops out at 129k seems pretty good deal? Technically speaking if compare to other EV in this class in Malaysia... where are the competitors?

Leapmotor C10 RM149,000 for introductory
BYD Atto 3 RM149,800 (I was offered RM135,000 some said can get RM120,000... but no luck on this one, interior is one that if you like it you like it... I didn't...).
Xpeng G6 RM165,000.

What other SUV within this size and price range, eg below 180k?
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post Oct 26 2024, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Oct 26 2024, 03:33 PM)
soyacincau mention in twitter/x said that RM 120k not starting or maximum price hmm.gif


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I'm guessing its 119k and 129k without insurance price. laugh.gif
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post Oct 28 2024, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 27 2024, 10:14 PM)
A point to note that the eMas has a 11kW OBC over the 7kW OBC that is used in the original car in China.

11kW OBC is very expensive.... BYD sold in Europe cost over rm230k++ compared to same model in Malaysia and Australia RM160k± due to us using 7kW OBC
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I didn't think the 11kw OBC is that expensive... hmm.gif

Either ways I always prefer 3 phase OBC rather than single phase OBC...

The 7kW will pull 32A, which even if your house is 3 phase but heavily loaded also will overload that phase and require balancing.
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post Oct 28 2024, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 28 2024, 11:13 AM)
Went to check out the car at ACE Setia Alam yesterday. It was the most popular car there, needed to wait very long to get a chance to sit in the car and check it out. IMO its a very good value package at the price range. Will definitely sell like hot cakes. I especially liked the sharp and responsive infotainment screen.

Personally my primary concern is with the Proton badging and its crappy aftersales. But then again all the other competitors like Xpeng G6 and Leapmotor C10 are unknown entities as well. Bermaz especially does not inspire trust.

On the other hand, the Leapmotor C10 was a good looking vehicle. The green one looked great and interior was decent but very spartan. However, the pricing is a big turn-off for what is supposed to be a cheap car. The car look impressive but it is very cheaply made.
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How is e.MAS 7 interior build compared to C10? Better build? Nice feel to touch?

QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 28 2024, 02:37 PM)
Proton SA said that the RHD version is already being built in Tanjung Malim and the first batch will be from Tanjung Malim and not China. Anyone can confirm whether this is true?
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Local SA told me the first batch will be CBU from China.
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post Oct 28 2024, 06:02 PM

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Is the DCFC speed so critical though?

I drive M3LR, 250kW peak... I rarely get that on Superchargers (need low SoC and preconditioned battery) and probably less than 3 minute throughout the charging session.

The other day was at Ipoh, also limited to 60kW Gentari. These >200W chargers are pretty limited, and if available also is for the 800V cars.

100kW can fully utilize most DCFC now already la (assuming charging curve is good).
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post Oct 29 2024, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 29 2024, 10:57 AM)
This is true, charging curve is very important and Tesla is known to charge at substantially below the max kwh for most of the charging session. In practice I think the lower kwh DCFCs stations operate closer to their max which is better than a 150kwh charger but only charge at a lower rate most of the time.
Anyway, I think most people who are buying EVs now will charge at home and only occasionally at a DCFC, so not a big deal in the bigger scheme of things.
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Tesla charge curve gradually reduces, this is probably what they have learnt to maximize charge speed and battery life span probably over the years. For Tesla it actively monitors the temperature of the battery pack, if your AC radiator is clogged and it doesn't cool the battery pack as efficiently you don't get top speed either.

Some brands, I think brands like BMWs does it step by step... depending on the %. Not sure how is it like on the e.MAS 7.

I'm shopping for the wife, long distance drive will be using my M3LR which has more range... this one is most for town drive (or occasionally going to nearer outstations say Melaka-KL or Melaka-Muar kinda trips), or when need to fetch more people (M3 when fetch more people very stressful when I see speed bumps laugh.gif ).
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post Oct 29 2024, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Oct 29 2024, 11:15 AM)
they can't even decide on the pricing, really MY style
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I see the new trend now is announcing RM xxx and below, instead of the usual "from RM xxx". *cough* Zeekr *cough*. Looks like they are testing the market interest before announcing the actual price. Maybe if less bookings = lower price? drool.gif

QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 29 2024, 11:19 AM)
I think most if not all the new EVs manage the charging actively based on temperature and SoC. Only the old EVs like Nissan Leaf that does not do that.

I think the emas 7 makes a lot of sense for your use case and maybe can consider the Dolphin also, BYD is offering discounts on them as well.
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Personally, I think e.MAS 7 is a good choice. Only issue now is convincing my wife as she is kinda allergy towards the kucing logo mega_shok.gif . We went to test drive BYD Dolphin and BYD Atto 3 two weeks ago, she strike off Dolphin cause of the interior and front headlamp design. Atto 3 under consideration, offered about 135k for 2024 model... which IF the e.MAS 7 is 129k for long range, no brainer to go for e.MAS 7! Only will consider the Dolphin if it is indeed about 120k like what I read on FB... that also hard sell la because I still value the space and interior design of the e.MAS 7 and most important is the 11kW OBC. My house been using 16A x 3 so far and has been rock solid... don't wanna be using 32A single phase that I might need to do some load balancing at my home pulak.
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post Oct 31 2024, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(brianklc @ Oct 31 2024, 04:06 PM)
since when you got the pricing for atto 3? deepa promo is 22k rebate
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Someone in MyEVOC shared this, he got it for 115k and said others can get for 120k. I only got the 135k one.
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post Nov 7 2024, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 7 2024, 09:52 AM)
Yes...! EV powertrain is thumbup.gif

Driving a BEV for months now, almost time to renew insurance too. No turning back, now surveying for an affordable BEV for wife. So far e.MAS 7 is my top pick, but my wife is allergy towards the kucing logo sweat.gif need to continue persuading her... laugh.gif
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post Nov 12 2024, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Nov 12 2024, 02:00 AM)
Rm100k plus we have wide variety of choices
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What are the competitive prices above 100k we talking about here?

Lets put it below 140k... product that's competitive to e.MAS 7.

I have test driven Atto 3, MG4, MG ZS EV, Dolphin... the e.MAS 7 if priced at 129k... seems like a steal now. Belum lagi test drive, interior build feeling already tapao the rest.

Also test driven the pricier #1 and G6... and I say the competitor would be G6 la... RM165k price tag car. Leapmotor C10 no test drive nearby me.
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post Nov 22 2024, 11:35 AM

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Anyone manage to secure a test drive slot yet? Or still gotta wait until Dec'24?
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post Dec 20 2024, 04:25 PM

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Because cannot share showroom with existing Proton, need to be standalone e.Mas branding.
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post Dec 31 2024, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Dec 30 2024, 07:17 PM)
above 80km/h quite a lot of road noise. The goodyear efficientgrip SUV tyres are not very quiet. I think the proton x series is quieter at high speed.
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Is it because X series you hear the engine more than road noise? hmm.gif
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post Dec 31 2024, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Dec 31 2024, 10:13 AM)
at 80-90 , you don't hear engine noise anymore, it's always road noise. (at least for most mid range cars)
Road noise will always drown out any engine noise at higher speed.
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Don't have experience with "mid range cars". I drove Honda Civic FC 1.5 (the ketam)... the engine noise is there... but pretty damn sure the Continental MC5 was a lot louder than the Michelin ePrimacy T2 I have now on the Model 3.

 

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