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strace
post Feb 1 2008, 12:46 PM

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Maybe for the state WCG organizers since they have to fork extra money for rents at convention halls/etc. National tourneys with no state preliminary rounds won't be affected... but who is going to sponsor the computers? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Feb 1 2008, 12:29 PM)
Just one question,will gaming competition like WCG or Starcraft National Tournament get affected by the damn policy?
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They could lost several things:

- Promotional events that lead to the actual events.
- Cybercafe qualifiers.

Which could lead them to decreased number of sponsors. Not to forget possibility of decreased participant number, most probably in team games.

Basically, everybody will be affected but it is still gamers that received the major blow. It is also worthy to note that cybercafes are the majority sponsors for many clans out there. Compare that to corporate bodies? Almost 0%. rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 1 2008, 03:30 PM

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SMM endorsing blues****r?

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best games crafted by Blizzard Entertainment? seems blues****r forget DotA is crafted by the community

from flying wantanmee monster frontpage

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post Feb 2 2008, 08:20 AM

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When is cc ban on games going to be inforce, strace? The Giovernment is ridiculous banning games in cc. Most including me hang out at cc bcoz of games. Go to cc to surf internet, why not go home and play? Has SMM closed down yet? Banning games in cc means SMM would close down. CC will have to curi curi allow games.

flying spaghetti monster is sponsored by SMM??? Now SMM is going into server biz. Maybe because ban games in cc that they go into server games. Another problem.
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post Mar 15 2008, 11:21 AM

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any updates from smm? thanks in advance...

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post Mar 15 2008, 12:38 PM

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No updates for the public at the moment
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post Mar 15 2008, 05:31 PM

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Sigh..

I've been reading this thread and all other licensing issues for a very long time now. Since its a new govt. today tongue.gif , I've decided to get off my arse and maybe say something a little constructive.

1stly, SMM is officially distributor for the software based on the documents strace has shown. They are also an authorized distributor. Therefore it is legal to buy from them.

2ndly, the issue of licensing and fee collection is a sticky point because the document I've seen does not say anything about that. Given that I've never read the Terms of Usage of the software (which should be there when you install or buy the CD), I'm unable to confirm that they have the right to collect such a fee.

3rd, the most interesting point I would like to make, is that should SMM decide to collect raid, the document strace has show us very clearly states the requirement for WRITTEN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT to Blizzard to initiate each legal action. This means when a cafe is raided SMM requires an individual document for that SPECIFIC cafe. Every cafe requires a separate document. While it may be simple at face value, the practical aspects of this term means that every raid will have to be accompanied by a VALID document which has to be shown in order to legalise such action.

So to all that have been/will be/are being raided, demand such a document. Alone SMM has no right to raid and remove computers. Such power of entry and seizure can only be granted by the authorities. Should SMM come with authorities, the authorities must bring the document I mentioned, or else the raid is not legal and the authority is is acting ultra vires.

Ok, I've said what I wanted to say and I will now return to hibernation. Good luck to all. All I've mentioned here is merely my interpretation as a layman.


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post Mar 24 2008, 11:57 AM

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Hello guys...ok first of all...i come from sabah. here the issue about gaming license from SMM also become so hot...this is what i encounted...

one of my friend open a cyber cafe and applying the license for gaming especially dota from SMM. this is what they did..one of their agent here sabah...comes to the cyber cafe...install the game inside about 20 pc...and gives my friend only 1(one) serial code for the whole game....the best part is...do you know how much they charge....i swear to GOD...im not lying...for the whole 20 pc...RM80 per month....RM80 okay..no joke! the RM80 is consist of RM75 for the license and RM5 is the stamp duty...guess what...the stamp duty is only a letter from SMM HQ...

this week they will come give the new agreement...i mean for 2008 one...so i will post to any1 who want it..i will keep this up-to-date...

p.s - sorry for my bad english and grammar... sweat.gif
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post Mar 24 2008, 12:05 PM

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Payment done via cash or cheque specifically to SMM S/B?
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post Mar 24 2008, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(z3phyr @ Feb 1 2008, 03:30 PM)
best games crafted by Blizzard Entertainment? seems blues****r forget DotA is crafted by the community

from flying wantanmee monster frontpage
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This statement really pissed me off.
It is a well known fact that Blizz admins in their battlenet forums hate DOTA.

Dotards, GTFO from my WOW and Starcraft.
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post Mar 24 2008, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(z3phyr @ Feb 1 2008, 03:30 PM)
SMM endorsing blues****r?

best games crafted by Blizzard Entertainment? seems blues****r forget DotA is crafted by the community

from flying wantanmee monster frontpage
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That idiot who wrote should be slapped.Since when Blizzard make DotA.

Hope these idiots will stay away from SC2.
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Just trying to play Devil's Advocate here.

While Blizzard did not create DOTA you are still running the game on a Blizzard product.

Even Counter-Strike & Team Fortress 2 was not created by Valve and was originally "free".
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QUOTE(strace @ Mar 24 2008, 12:05 PM)
Payment done via cash or cheque specifically to SMM S/B?
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its by cash....cause they come to meet my fren this week but i dunno when exactly they come...
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post Mar 25 2008, 02:37 AM

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pay by cash? that agent surely take RM80 masuk pocket!
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Blue Server is owned by Sendi Mutiara?

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How do you guys so sure that DotA is not crafted by Blizzard?
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QUOTE(Golden @ Mar 25 2008, 03:32 AM)
How do you guys so sure that DotA is not crafted by Blizzard?
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If Blizzard created DotA,they would have make it a stand alone game since it's so much different from WC3.Besides,this map is not available in WC3 when you install it.You have to download it from a non Blizzard site.
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QUOTE(strace @ Mar 25 2008, 02:37 AM)
pay by cash? that agent surely take RM80 masuk pocket!
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im not sure about that. well, that is why im waiting for the new agreement to see how the things going on..i tell my friend not to sign it first.. whistling.gif futhermore...i tell my friend to pay using cheque..so no masuk pocket... flex.gif

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post Mar 25 2008, 03:50 PM

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How do you guys so sure that DotA is not crafted by Blizzard?


doh.gif

Dotards didnt realize that Blizzard actually hates Dota.

It really pisses me off when tards spoiling the name of Warcraft.

These are the guys who never play the original WC1, WC2 or any other blizzard games.

It really make me cringe when some tards approached me when i was playing WOW in CC.
They actually asked, is this new DOTA online game. WTF?!

I cant imagine what happens if the Warcraft movie by WB release in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Mar 25 2008, 03:50 PM)
doh.gif

Dotards didnt realize that Blizzard actually hates Dota.

It really pisses me off when tards spoiling the name of Warcraft.

These are the guys who never play the original WC1, WC2 or any other blizzard games.

It really make me cringe when some tards approached me when i was playing WOW in CC.
They actually asked, is this new DOTA online game. WTF?!

I cant imagine what happens if the Warcraft movie by WB release in Malaysia.
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Blizzard hates DotA?Why?

Lol,when Warcraft movie comes,those tards gonna scream:"OMG,DotA movie but where is f*** is my fav hero?"

Retards will always be retards.
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guy do you all heard about this kind of system for cc. all game install in a high end server, and the client pc just no need to installl and games juz windows. now my question is about the SMM games license. only install games in one unit pc(server) and should paid for all pc that in cc. is this fair for the cc. let said, i but a ori games and install in the server then play so why should cc pay for the games license for every unit pc.

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