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Added on January 8, 2008, 1:57 pmStrace, an Update! Just recd call from a Fren working in game-card company. He says he knows SMM staff who showed him a copy of SMM's Blizzard Agrt. He says it shows that SMM's distrbt right include cybercafe licensing. Is it true?

Dear Strace, some good news and bad news. Good news, I have passed the print-out to my cyberjaya fren. Bad news is that he says he need to check with his legal dept colleague to help look into it (for free!) and his fren is on holiday and will only be back next week. Hope to received something next week. Since is free service, we have to be patience. Will keep you posted. I am doing all I could to help out. I hope others also help to check with their legal fren or people who know this stuff for some advise. TQ.

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Added on January 9, 2008, 6:55 amStrace, btw, a CC owner fren told me that Hunter asked him to pay RM3k to his personal account to settle the SMM issue. DO u know who is this Huinter fella and why is he asking for RM3k? Is he Sendi's spy or something like that?

Come to think of it, u r right. SMM would not be so stupid to go to the press to sing bad things about themselves. How do these people know when a new CC has started up n for them to come to look for u to pay license agents? Maybe the local govt office informed them or maybe some CC also want to get the new CC in trouble by contacting these money collection company. I think all CC must be united and not back-stab each other. I can't read chinese but going through the cari froum with some english post, sure tell that these people r not as informed as u and the level of discussion u have here. Very good job Strace.

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Added on January 9, 2008, 10:51 amJust inquire from Software Boutique (tsb.com.my). They said they don't sell cybercafe license and we cannot buy from them and we must contact the local distributor. I guess they are referring to SMM, right? Anyone got any other distributor like in US or Singapore? Care to share their contact? I doubt by writing to Blizzard. They will probably say the same thing or shit.

Actually, this have to refer to other country also ...

as we know, since I brought the Billzard Ori Copy, and that's is no write down there in the CD Agreement that we cannot put it in the CC. Then we have no right to give SMM the money right. Unless, SMM have the Billazard Authorized and the Warcraft Agreement have write down, only this will be legal right.

If singapore, and other country like Korea and China also not need to do so, then SMM should don't have any right to do so. Lastly. what our minister say, all are bullshit.... They will protect the money only, just like our Sami GOD.

Is the lawyer a copyright or software lawyer? Do they know who they are dealing with? I think have to b careful when writing abt them, like NST suing Jeff Ooi for blogging on the net atlhough he has no control over what was said in his blog. I don't want after lowyat.net kena sue. We will attack and finish SMM and direct our focus on SMM. Happy Holidays!!!

SMM is for the DOTA and WC lovers. This is where the problem is. I have been around and kept low not saying anything bcoz there is no way to fight SMM. Why? Sometime back in 2002, I fight with Adspace n SMM. I spent close to $8k of my own money, paying lawyers etc. All wasted and burned. They got this fella call Hubei (VP) from Blizzard to come to Malaysia and screw all cc who refused to pay. I remember I was there in Marriot for the press conference. A lot of us, all cc owner, arguing but Blizzard says that is their position because Adspace n SMM have paid Blizzard for their rights and they have given licensing rights to SMM. Hubei says this is all about business and not personal fight. He even warned all cc owner to pay if not stop playing WC. I install WC because there was no other choice at that time. Have to admit only WC makes money for cc. I stop 2 years ago when other games are also doing well. I have stop using WC and still survive. My answer to all your concern is - Stop Supporting WC and if all stand united = SMM, Blizzard and their gang would all fall and die. Anyway, SMM only got 1 game, that is WC. If WC finish, I am damn sure SMM will die.

I am no longer playing this game with SMM. As far as I am concerned, SMM is no longer an issue. Since there are still many disgrunted cc about SMM, I will share some info that I know.

Hubei is a French guy and not chinese. I don't have his full name. You have to check it out yourself. In 2002, there was this cc group called Depsima led by a MCA fella from Cheras MCA called LBK, who was once Pikom chairman. He failed miserably fighting for us. He also got some documents but Blizzard kill all arguments and issues. If you are fighting Blizzard and their business policy, forget it. I still remember what Hubei told LBK in Marriot. Blizzard says "SMM doing a very good job pushing WC in Malaysia and making the game popular here. So, what is the problem? CC must pay if they are all making money from WC. CC cannot buy 1 original box and make thousands of dollars every year from it without paying SMM who has paid Blizzard in advance". We got no answer to that. We gave up. Depisma closed and everyone who forms part of the group went their own way. Like I said earlier, your current approach will not solve cc problem. In fact, you will become a target for SMM to raid. SMM will go after all cc who has not paid them or those who go against them. I took the other way out. Instead of fighting SMM, I stop SMM from attacking me. I stopped using WC. The only way is to make WC unpopular. If this happens, SMM will fall like a dead meat.

IGames is SMM's gang. They got the right because of SMM. IGames have closed and SMM took over. Before that, Adspace. Adspace got it from anor Singapore company. Never ending story because SMM would still get the right at the end of the day. SMM is the biggest game distributor in M'sia. You all have to admit it. They have money and muscles. Once you have that kind of money, you can hire any gunslinger to do your dirty job.

As for Hubei again, the last time I heard from my Singapore partner is that Hubei left Blizzard to join EA. I also heard Vivendi have left Blizzard and Vivendi has merge with Activision. This leaves Blizzard alone and they are just too busy making biliions with WOW online. For Malaysia, to them it is a god damn small market with backward technology.

My advise to all of you is that - stop letting SMM come to you. Stop SMM from having a reason to attack you. Make them a small fry by stop playing WC. Once this happens, SMM will come and beg you and maybe sell you the cybercafe license for $10.