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TSKent2007
post Nov 6 2007, 12:33 AM, updated 18y ago

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Hi everyone,

Last 2 months there was a legal talk issues betweeen Sendi Mutiara Multimedia(SMM) gamming licensing and all cyber cafe outlet held in KL. As I know, SMM is the only distributor Blizzard Entertainment for Malaysia region and they do not have the legal right to rent and collect licensing fees from cyber cafe outlet. And there is all over the chinese newspapers regarding possible false gamming license:
http://www.nanyang.com/index.php?ch=8&pg=15&ac=769619
http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.a...rt=0914mb65.txt
http://www.guangming.com.my/content.phtml?...id=200709130894
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2007/09/14/7.html

Does anyone know how is the progression? Do I still need to pay SMM for gamming licensing?

Thanks in advance for any info...
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post Nov 6 2007, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(Kent2007 @ Nov 6 2007, 12:33 AM)
they do not have the legal right to rent and collect licensing fees from cyber cafe outletDoes anyone know how is the progression? Do I still need to pay SMM for gamming licensing?
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They dont, the agreement u signed stated, u agreed to compulsory purchase X amount of games(CDs) from them monthly. No matter how, they can still spin it
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post Nov 6 2007, 12:44 AM

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Thx, what about for new cyber cafe which is not yet signed up with the agreement?
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post Nov 6 2007, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(Kent2007 @ Nov 6 2007, 12:44 AM)
Thx, what about for new cyber cafe which is not yet signed up with the agreement?
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You can try go to Blizzard directly. But chances are there's still ask you to go back to SMM.
If new cc didn't signed up any agreement, that could means they are using the game for commercial purposes without permission. Means Blizzard can sue all they want...most probably through SMM.

Can someone translate it to the rest of us who can't read Chinese? nod.gif
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post Nov 6 2007, 09:03 AM

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So most Cybercafe owners believe Sendi Mutiara is a scam... but what happened next?


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post Nov 6 2007, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Kent2007 @ Nov 6 2007, 12:33 AM)
Hi everyone,

Last 2 months there was a legal talk issues betweeen Sendi Mutiara Multimedia(SMM) gamming licensing and all cyber cafe outlet held in KL. As I know, SMM is the only distributor Blizzard Entertainment for Malaysia region and they do not have the legal right to rent and collect licensing fees from cyber cafe outlet. And there is all over the chinese newspapers regarding possible false gamming license:
http://www.nanyang.com/index.php?ch=8&pg=15&ac=769619
http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.a...rt=0914mb65.txt
http://www.guangming.com.my/content.phtml?...id=200709130894
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2007/09/14/7.html

Does anyone know how is the progression? Do I still need to pay SMM for gamming licensing?

Thanks in advance for any info...
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nothing happened after that. it only means whatever the cafes tried to prove, was futile and that SMM is right, i.e. not a scam.

scam or no scam, cafes are making a profit off Blizzard games and Blizzard should be entitled to a cut of the profits, paid to SMM.

anyhow, this isnt the right place to discuss. most of us are gamers here and might not know how to advise you properly. you should try the cari forums though, plenty of info there.

good luck!
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post Nov 6 2007, 10:36 AM

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This will take some time because that is only a accusation announcement, thay have not even get dirty in court yet. I will follow up this issue next month.
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post Nov 6 2007, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(king_kong @ Nov 6 2007, 09:36 AM)
nothing happened after that. it only means whatever the cafes tried to prove, was futile and that SMM is right, i.e. not a scam.

scam or no scam, cafes are making a profit off Blizzard games and Blizzard should be entitled to a cut of the profits, paid to SMM.

anyhow, this isnt the right place to discuss. most of us are gamers here and might not know how to advise you properly. you should try the cari forums though, plenty of info there.

good luck!
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as far as the public is concerned, SMM is making the profit themselves and not really making the cut to blizzard.

and SMM or blizzard has done nothing thus far to prove otherwise, hence this is still a valid accusation/case.
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my 3 cc actually pay for it...
and smm in return give us 1 pcgamer mag and 1 new games every month..
and now i was selling it in garage sell biggrin.gif

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post Nov 8 2007, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Nov 6 2007, 11:45 AM)
my 3 cc actually pay for it...
and smm in return give us 1 pcgamer mag and 1 new games every month..
and now i was selling it in garage sell biggrin.gif
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how much your pay for it?
why i get 5cd permonth, but you get 1 only?
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post Nov 8 2007, 11:34 PM

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SMM dont give pcgamer, New Era did.
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post Nov 8 2007, 11:58 PM

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as long as i know
most of the CC don't sign any thing with SMM
few of my friends claim SMM hire some "gangster" look alike guys to force them pay $$ only. (my freind owns CC)

And, i heard eventhou singapore CC also don't pay any fees to their distributor except the copies of game. unlike local SMM.

And lastly, ever chitchat wit some EX SMM staff mentioned, SMM themselve "telan" the fees themselves. no any cents is given to blizzard at all.
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post Nov 9 2007, 02:35 AM

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i think this quite sensitive topic to talk about... no prove.. what to say..
the only think i heard is during the SMM DOTA tournament... donno what minister came and talk about this issue as well, the minister claimed that SMM is right... and 1 representative from Blizzard came as well... so i guess all that is just rumours...
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QUOTE(Novie @ Nov 9 2007, 03:35 AM)
i think this quite sensitive topic to talk about... no prove.. what to say..
the only think i heard is during the SMM DOTA tournament... donno what minister came and talk about this issue as well, the minister claimed that SMM is right... and 1 representative from Blizzard came as well...  so i guess all that is just rumours...
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the secret "PA" which SMM claimed they have been authorised, clearly stated that" SMM has the legal right to distribute, or to stop copy right issue(privacy)", never mention they have authorise smm to collect business license fee.US authorities has clearify that they have never been grant anything or similar to the CC license authorities to SMM wink.gif clear?
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Nov 9 2007, 02:01 PM)
the secret "PA" which SMM claimed they have been authorised, clearly stated that" SMM has the legal right to distribute, or to stop copy right issue(privacy)", never mention they have authorise smm to collect business license fee.US authorities has clearify that they have never been grant anything or similar to the CC license authorities to SMM wink.gif clear?
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so it should be like protection money eh?
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post Nov 13 2007, 02:10 AM

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Yes, in a way.

I say 'she' got an D- in spin doctoring. Maybe the company pay 'her' nuts lol
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Heard that fella SMM conduct a raid on cc in Klang last week. I was at the next door cc enjoying and went out to see what all the noise about. Some fella by the name Hunter and Hang or Fang also came but all just left. Some pc kena taken. I enjoy playing warcraft in cc with my fren and hope cc don't annoy us customer. Just settle the issue with SMM
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SMM is a scam. They have connection here in Miri which sells pirate CD
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Just back from a cc in Subang lah with some firends. Gamers play game also talk lah abt the scene. Everyone talking abt SMM v. Hunter. They say SMM collect license fee and Hunter also collect money from cc. Both also collect money. Ha Ha Ha!, who to believe? I will stick to SMM because at least they got something to show. Cari forum got show. Hunter, don't know why he is collecting money from cc, make money ah? Don't care lah. As a gamer I don't care but make sure cc when kena raid don't annoy us gamer lah, we r just there to play game. My firend told me when kena raid, gamer also have to give IC number n name and make sure u all bring original IC. If I CC owner, I will take care of gamer and not get gamer trouble.
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QUOTE(edinhoven @ Jan 7 2008, 07:39 AM)
Just back from a cc in Subang lah with some firends. Gamers play game also talk lah abt the scene. Everyone talking abt SMM v. Hunter. They say SMM collect license fee and Hunter also collect money from cc. Both also collect money. Ha Ha Ha!, who to believe? I will stick to SMM because at least they got something to show. Cari forum got show. Hunter, don't know why he is collecting money from cc, make money ah? Don't care lah. As a gamer I don't care but make sure cc when kena raid don't annoy us gamer lah, we r just there to play game. My firend told me when kena raid, gamer also have to give IC number n name and. If I CC owner, I will take care of gamer and not get gamer trouble.
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Gamer is gamer, underaged is underaged. If you can access CC LEGALLY, why would scare you get into trouble entering CC?
2nd thing SMM, Cyber Cafe, and Gamer is 3 different thing when raid happen, why would you say that you get into trouble?

A piece of advice : Avoid cafe's with "free" smoking area. (I never come across that a law where you can smoke in air-conditioned area.)

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