below is my dog named Rusty, pure american pitbull terrier just that he's abit plump.
aged around 5 human years.
come come share your pitbull experience,photos here.
American Pitbull Terrier Thread.
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i cant find a topic in this forum..so i'll start with a new one.
below is my dog named Rusty, pure american pitbull terrier just that he's abit plump. aged around 5 human years. come come share your pitbull experience,photos here. |
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Nov 5 2007, 08:12 PM
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How is your pitbull's temperament?
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aggresive towards other dogs besides female dogs but will growl if he's not in the mood..friendly towards man=)
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Nov 6 2007, 01:46 AM
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Cute oh!! FIghting dogs in america.
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Nov 6 2007, 02:23 AM
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wow..your rusty is a pretty tough looking fellow
 i love his ears more..they are so small and cute  |
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I'll post my Pitt tonite. hehe
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QUOTE(angelgurl_nee @ Nov 6 2007, 03:23 AM) wow..your rusty is a pretty tough looking fellow i cropped his ear when he was still youngi love his ears more..they are so small and cute  Added on November 6, 2007, 10:19 pmnairud where's ur pitt's pic?? This post has been edited by fookie: Nov 6 2007, 10:19 PM |
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Becareful guys...(u dont want to get into troubles with the authority by posting up pictures,etc...)
this breed is BANNED in U.K(unless its neutered), Malaysia, and most of the countries across the world... Well-known for human deaths...their favourite bitting part is ur ankle...it'll attack from behind ur ankle n once they got a good n firm grip, they WONT LET GO until u BLEED TO DEATH... This is one of the main reason they're BANNED in most parts of the world... The main reason why they r being bred is mainly to BAIT BULLS...dat was something like WAY back in 1800s... so i guess i'll stop here first... my main reason of posting here is to revive the topic...  COME ON PPL!!! REVIVE THE TOPIC!!!  ESPECIALLY U,TS!!! This post has been edited by APBT: Apr 10 2008, 08:46 PM |
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hello ppl.....???
anybody got nything to share??? i've got a feeling dat this thread is either dying, or already died...  |
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Apr 14 2008, 01:57 PM
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lol. not many ppl hav pitt bulls. i have one
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QUOTE(fookie @ Nov 5 2007, 07:47 PM) i cant find a topic in this forum..so i'll start with a new one. Bro Fookiebelow is my dog named Rusty, pure american pitbull terrier just that he's abit plump. aged around 5 human years. come come share your pitbull experience,photos here. Big Ben here i thought you only love fishing... glad to see you have dog also.. hey..... Nice dog la.. i have nothing to share about pit bull.... but i waiting from friend puppy in penang. |
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Apr 14 2008, 07:49 PM
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wow...FINALLY,got ppl reply
 QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 14 2008, 01:57 PM) lol. not many ppl hav pitt bulls. i have one yeah, and according to the previous' post, u were supposed to post up ur pit's mugshot btw, i didnt say dat i own one...n i didnt say dat i didnt own one  QUOTE(BigBen @ Apr 14 2008, 02:25 PM) Bro Fookie nice 1, BigBen...Big Ben here i thought you only love fishing... glad to see you have dog also.. hey..... Nice dog la.. i have nothing to share about pit bull.... but i waiting from friend puppy in penang. will b waiting for ur pup other than dat, c u around in "The Retrievers V2" thread do visit this thread when u hv the time  |
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QUOTE(APBT @ Apr 14 2008, 07:49 PM) wow...FINALLY,got ppl reply Hi APBT yeah, and according to the previous' post, u were supposed to post up ur pit's mugshot btw, i didnt say dat i own one...n i didnt say dat i didnt own one nice 1, BigBen... will b waiting for ur pup other than dat, c u around in "The Retrievers V2" thread do visit this thread when u hv the time of course ..... sharing to get knowledge what you have experience ma... and sure i visit The Retriever V2 my BigBen need friend there ma... |
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Apr 16 2008, 10:53 PM
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good also , when you bring this kind of dog around you ....no other dog dare to come over .....
how you found this dog ? easy to control ? |
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QUOTE(BigBen @ Apr 15 2008, 09:42 AM) Hi APBT glad to hear dat bro of course ..... sharing to get knowledge what you have experience ma... and sure i visit The Retriever V2 my BigBen need friend there ma... QUOTE(alvincks @ Apr 16 2008, 10:53 PM) good also , when you bring this kind of dog around you ....no other dog dare to come over ..... hello alvincks,how you found this dog ? easy to control ? so glad dat u could drop by this thread  anyway, referring to ur question, it all depends on how well u train them... personally, i would say that the pit's loyalty towards its owner/master/handler is among the highest... dat is, if u manage to train it well ever since its young age... hope this short statement is adequate for u This post has been edited by APBT: Apr 16 2008, 11:13 PM |
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i have a pit bull too... =)
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Apr 16 2008, 11:20 PM) i have a pit bull too... =) glad to hear dat bro care to share ur experience here? |
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QUOTE(fookie @ Nov 5 2007, 07:47 PM) i cant find a topic in this forum..so i'll start with a new one. Hmmm...that dog looks familiar. I know a pitbull who looks just like yours with also the same name. below is my dog named Rusty, pure american pitbull terrier just that he's abit plump. aged around 5 human years. come come share your pitbull experience,photos here. Don't really have first hand pitbull experience. Usually they are friend's dogs. I remember once, one of his pitbulls wasn't allowed to go into the kitchen area. He was so well trained that it almost seemed like there was an invisible wall stopping the dog from going into the kitchen, despite being tempted with toys etc  This post has been edited by RealityDreamer: Apr 22 2008, 11:21 AM |
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Apr 22 2008, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(RealityDreamer @ Apr 22 2008, 11:04 AM) Hmmm...that dog looks familiar. I know a pitbull who looks just like yours with also the same name. yup, truely said... Don't really have first hand pitbull experience. Usually they are friend's dogs. I remember once, one of his pitbulls wasn't allowed to go into the kitchen area. He was so well trained that it almost seemed like there was an invisible wall stopping the dog from going into the kitchen, despite being tempted with toys etc pits r very obedient...WITH the proper training of course n thx for sharing wit us here Ms. RealityDreamer |
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Apr 22 2008, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(APBT @ Apr 22 2008, 02:25 PM) yup, truely said... No problem at all pits r very obedient...WITH the proper training of course n thx for sharing wit us here Ms. RealityDreamer Am a big fan of the APBT/AST. |
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very smart dog u have here...my friend have 1..as long i know this dog banned in malaysia
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May 1 2008, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(RealityDreamer @ Apr 22 2008, 11:04 AM) Hmmm...that dog looks familiar. I know a pitbull who looks just like yours with also the same name. i guess you know my brother?? Don't really have first hand pitbull experience. Usually they are friend's dogs. I remember once, one of his pitbulls wasn't allowed to go into the kitchen area. He was so well trained that it almost seemed like there was an invisible wall stopping the dog from going into the kitchen, despite being tempted with toys etc Added on May 1, 2008, 7:47 pmHey guys, post pictures of your pitbull! come come!! This post has been edited by fookie: May 1 2008, 07:47 PM |
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QUOTE(fookie @ May 1 2008, 07:43 PM) i guess you know my brother?? FINALLY.......Added on May 1, 2008, 7:47 pmHey guys, post pictures of your pitbull! come come!! the TS has replied in his own thread hey fookie,wat took u so long to reply here huh? u got lost or 4got about this thread? |
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QUOTE(APBT @ May 1 2008, 10:48 PM) FINALLY....... i was looking at the topics i created..then i realised someone actually revived the APBT thread..then i ma reply lor.. the TS has replied in his own thread hey fookie,wat took u so long to reply here huh? u got lost or 4got about this thread?  |
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QUOTE(fookie @ May 1 2008, 11:04 PM) i was looking at the topics i created..then i realised someone actually revived the APBT thread..then i ma reply lor.. thx to me 4 reviving it hehehe... |
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they are really banned in malaysia? i assume this is the dog owned by Ami from the miami ink show?
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May 1 2008, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(radical85 @ May 1 2008, 11:51 PM) they are really banned in malaysia? i assume this is the dog owned by Ami from the miami ink show? yes they are...read the previous post from the 1st page bro...the 1 i wrote...den u'll understand... edit: as for the Miami Ink's Ami,i'm not too sure about it cuz i rarely had the chance to watch the show...but many celebrities hv pits... This post has been edited by APBT: May 1 2008, 11:59 PM |
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May 2 2008, 01:32 PM
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alot of MTV videos made by those nigga-nigga got pitbulls one..try noticing.=)
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QUOTE(fookie @ May 2 2008, 01:32 PM) alot of MTV videos made by those nigga-nigga got pitbulls one..try noticing.=) yeah man...niggers like to pose wit their pits... n most of the pits(can consider all) are well-buffed... |
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May 2 2008, 08:27 PM
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i always wish i have one ever since i saw it on TV. But my mom said NO coz she's afraid that it will kill the other terrier in my house
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May 2 2008, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(radical85 @ May 2 2008, 08:27 PM) i always wish i have one ever since i saw it on TV. But my mom said NO coz she's afraid that it will kill the other terrier in my house it all depends on how u train them...but if both are males, den its not advisable to keep'em together in the same hse btw, wats ur other terrier? JRT? Boston Terrier? or.....Bull Terrier?  |
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QUOTE(APBT @ May 2 2008, 08:31 PM) it all depends on how u train them... silky terrier. female, but most probably will get female pit. but if both are males, den its not advisable to keep'em together in the same hse btw, wats ur other terrier? JRT? Boston Terrier? or.....Bull Terrier? My silky terrier hard la, she even go cari gaduh wif my rottweiler. she will always bully other dog around. my rottweiler always fight back, one time when i try to save her during a fight, in the end i got 1 bite from my rottweiler and another bite from terrier. sigh... |
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May 3 2008, 09:36 AM
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silky terrier dem fragile lar..the pit grab the neck and swing a few times KO already..this happened to my neighbor's dog. but luckily my neighbor's dog didn't die...
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May 3 2008, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(radical85 @ May 3 2008, 02:16 AM) silky terrier. female, but most probably will get female pit. pity u... My silky terrier hard la, she even go cari gaduh wif my rottweiler. she will always bully other dog around. my rottweiler always fight back, one time when i try to save her during a fight, in the end i got 1 bite from my rottweiler and another bite from terrier. sigh... last time i play wit my rott,JUZ PLAYING AROUND ONY...chasing chasing and taunting her...until she bit me oso... ALMOST kena my "ahem ahem" ar...  but miss,kena my thigh... QUOTE(fookie @ May 3 2008, 09:36 AM) silky terrier dem fragile lar..the pit grab the neck and swing a few times KO already..this happened to my neighbor's dog. but luckily my neighbor's dog didn't die... yup,i saw the same incident once...two different things frm ur story though: the othr dog was a spitz n it died... This post has been edited by APBT: May 3 2008, 11:39 AM |
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May 3 2008, 09:20 PM
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APBT..come post photos of ur pit lar..
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May 3 2008, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(fookie @ May 3 2008, 09:20 PM) APBT..come post photos of ur pit lar.. huh?i nvr say dat i own 1...n i nvr say dat i didnt own 1... |
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QUOTE(fookie @ May 3 2008, 09:36 AM) silky terrier dem fragile lar..the pit grab the neck and swing a few times KO already..this happened to my neighbor's dog. but luckily my neighbor's dog didn't die... lol the way u describe it sounds so funny. But true though, i damn scare this will happen, one bite swing few times my silky terrier will turn into a ragged carpetQUOTE(APBT @ May 3 2008, 10:13 PM) huh? no need so paranoid la. I dun think malaysian authority so efficient will check ur IP and hunt u down if u post picturei nvr say dat i own 1...n i nvr say dat i didnt own 1... |
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May 3 2008, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(radical85 @ May 3 2008, 10:18 PM) lol the way u describe it sounds so funny. But true though, i damn scare this will happen, one bite swing few times my silky terrier will turn into a ragged carpet no need so paranoid la. I dun think malaysian authority so efficient will check ur IP and hunt u down if u post picture juz playing wit u guys ony lah... dun have the pic currently... will upload nxt time...  n btw,its not mine...it's my elder bro's... |
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May 3 2008, 10:28 PM
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just sold my puppy pit
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May 3 2008, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(fookie @ May 3 2008, 10:28 PM) just sold my puppy pit aww... |
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May 3 2008, 10:37 PM
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after bonding with it for 3 months... T.T
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May 3 2008, 10:41 PM
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btw,i hv a story to share...
i think its quite silly of me lor... u all know the game "the Sims 2" rite? got alot of expansions...n one of them is "the Sims 2 : Pets" ma... my gf like to play "the Sims 2"...so she got ALL the expansions... den when i saw the "Pets" expansion,i decided to install it in my laptop lo... a total of almost 10-12GB!!! (including all the expansions lah)...juz to play the "Pets"... so once i installed it,i start to play... n it has NO APBT...  so i created 1 lo...n its EXACTLY like my pit..complete wit tthe buil-up n the color  i even created my ownself n adopt the pit as my pet... den he got a job somemore ar... 1st started as a security dog...den get promoted few times... go work got driver somemore... after playing for quite a long time,the pit died due to aging factor... i was SO SO SO sad dat eventually, i UNINSTALLED the WHOLE game...the whole 10++GB of it... how silly of me...  |
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May 3 2008, 10:43 PM
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whoa..10gb games..i think the 3 games which i play also doesn't exceed 10 gb..
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May 3 2008, 10:51 PM
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normal lah...The Sims 2 ma... wat game u play oo? 3 games can be lesser than 10GB meh? |
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May 3 2008, 10:55 PM
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never played the sims 2.
the 3 games i play is warcraft III, counter strike 1.6 and maplestory. but now seldom play already lar.. |
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May 3 2008, 11:01 PM
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no wonder lah...
warcraft 3 the most oso wont reach 2Gb if included all ur saved games(espcially frm BS) CS 1.6 leh,takes up ony hundreds of MB... as for maplestory,its a gmae client ony ma... anyway,back to the topic... how much did u sell ur pup? u do breeding oso ar? |
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500bucks..sold to my ex-neighbor..
i seldom do breeding lar..one of my female pit died after being bitten by cobra..but the cobra died also lar.. that particular female pit bred around 3 litters of pup. all sold off. |
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sad...
 my pit killed a snake b4 oso... but not sure wat snake is dat lah... most probably its called "ular kapak" cuz the head part if u look front front,its flat type n looks like an axe... he's a real hero at 1st my bro ordered the pit to stop... but den the snake hvn die yet...n our pit is ready to attack again... den when my bro gv the order,bye-bye to the snake... the stupid snake come n enter into my bro's hse... so,if nvr kill, scared nxt time will come again n will will b dangerous lo... This post has been edited by APBT: May 3 2008, 11:13 PM |
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May 3 2008, 11:21 PM
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my female pit fought with her daughter in the afternoon before she fought the with the snake in the evening.. thats why i think she got bitten..
but she's also a hero lar.. killed alot of huge monitor lizard and snakes.. |
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May 3 2008, 11:25 PM
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dont u mean heroine? (its a she ma)
R.I.P. Heroine This post has been edited by APBT: May 3 2008, 11:26 PM |
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May 3 2008, 11:55 PM
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yeah heroine.haha
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May 4 2008, 04:56 PM
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ur pit so well train, can ask to stop anytime.
RIP heroine. so now u still having 2 more puppy pit? |
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QUOTE(radical85 @ May 4 2008, 04:56 PM) ur pit so well train, can ask to stop anytime. r u referring to my pit dat is well-trained?RIP heroine. so now u still having 2 more puppy pit? if yes,well,my bro is lsomewhat a trainer lah... |
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May 8 2008, 01:06 PM
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REVIVE!!!
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reviving the topic ar....good..cos i interent in pitt too...
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May 10 2008, 07:06 PM
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wow shamanwee..interested in fishing and pitbull too??hahah
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May 26 2008, 09:24 PM
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hmm...i was away for quite some time n looks like the this thread followed me too...
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May 29 2008, 10:58 PM
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THREAD REVIVED!
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Saw a nice video on pitt bull from a friend's blog
Recently the state of Ohio is trying to pass and adopt a bill that prohibit the ownership, keeping, or harboring of a dog commonly known as a pit bull. If this bill is passed and adopted into law, all pit bulls there will be seized and euthanized. This video is in response of the above. It is a lovely and meaningful video - hope you all like it. |
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QUOTE(fookie @ May 1 2008, 07:43 PM) i guess you know my brother?? hehe...yes, i think i do Added on May 1, 2008, 7:47 pmHey guys, post pictures of your pitbull! come come!! Got to know him at a training session. How is he doing?? |
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Jun 13 2008, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(RealityDreamer @ Jun 3 2008, 06:17 PM) hehe...yes, i think i do doing fine. Got to know him at a training session. How is he doing?? |
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Helloo.
Hehehehe. Im from Kota Kinabalu sabah. As far as i know only 2 owner own pitt bull in sabah.That are the timber tycoon in sandakan and mr wong in penampang . Im the new pitt bull owner in sabah .This dog arhhh, tell you fearless. I like this dog so much . But cannot put together with my Malinnios .hehehehe I have pair of pit bull .hehehehe. Soon will have puppy..hehehehe pitt bull rules.. This relly are rare dog in sabah . One chinese boss offer me 8 k for pair of my pitt bull. but i refuse , he alredy ask me to contact him if my pitt got pupuuy soon.=) |
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guess i shall start the ball rolling by showing my pit bull..
here's Maxine , 3 months old   n Demon, 3 months   bought from a different seller,Demon Rm300, Maxine Rm 800, but can anyone help to confirm that my Demon is a real pit? doesn't really look like one to me besides nid some advice or maybe guide to teach my Pit bulls not to bite like a mad dog? i'm afraid of this as friday, many muslim will walk pass my hse . n i got some advice from my neighbour saying that this dog can't be train which i don't really believe as now my Demon will sit n will only eat when told to n he told me to be aware too as this dog will simply bite |
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QUOTE(fookie @ Nov 5 2007, 07:47 PM) i cant find a topic in this forum..so i'll start with a new one. helo.im new member.haha ur dog skin really like still rust..kidding..below is my dog named Rusty, pure american pitbull terrier just that he's abit plump. aged around 5 human years. come come share your pitbull experience,photos here. i also rare a pitbull but it is not pure pitbull terier. i forget the name d. my dog is taller then other type.one type is mix wit bulldog and it slightly short and mine one i forget it father mix wit wat breed.u stil got any dog??where r u from.im from alor star kedah.now at kl tarc study.nice to meet u. Added on December 11, 2008, 9:22 pm QUOTE(9303 @ Oct 20 2008, 12:04 AM) Helloo. can u post the dog pic to gv me have a look.thank.Hehehehe. Im from Kota Kinabalu sabah. As far as i know only 2 owner own pitt bull in sabah.That are the timber tycoon in sandakan and mr wong in penampang . Im the new pitt bull owner in sabah .This dog arhhh, tell you fearless. I like this dog so much . But cannot put together with my Malinnios .hehehehe I have pair of pit bull .hehehehe. Soon will have puppy..hehehehe pitt bull rules.. This relly are rare dog in sabah . One chinese boss offer me 8 k for pair of my pitt bull. but i refuse , he alredy ask me to contact him if my pitt got pupuuy soon.=) This post has been edited by wesley_chong: Dec 11 2008, 09:22 PM |
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Dec 12 2008, 01:51 PM
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still a puppy... =.= |
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Dec 12 2008, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Dec 12 2008, 01:51 PM)
still a puppy... =.= i like it so much..im from alor star. |
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Dec 12 2008, 11:09 PM
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Hey there, i am also interested in this kind of dog.. Was wondering where can i get it from? Jb or Kl ? ANd the price range?
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Dec 12 2008, 11:58 PM
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Some curious questions:
Just how big do these breed gets? How much does it cost to own one? If it's banned in Malaysia, does it mean that all APBT is non-MKA certified? |
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Dec 14 2008, 01:24 AM
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Yes this breed will never have an MKA cert and they are just medium sized dogs.. Cost wise depends on quality. And there are many lines to choose from depending on your preference. Banned from importing only. Doubt it is illegal to own as there are quite a lot of APBT owners around. I used to have them when I was younger and looking forward to own one in future. Their loyalty to owners are definitely superb and they will not hesitate to attack anyone or anything that they feel is going to harm their owners..
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Jun 1 2009, 07:07 AM
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hi i am looking for a pitbull pup. where can i find?
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Jun 1 2009, 07:45 AM
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Is PIT BULL n BULLY same? |
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Jun 1 2009, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(CarmenC @ Jun 1 2009, 07:45 AM) Is PIT BULL n BULLY same? bully is a mix breed. more bulky but nt as active.american pitbull is a pure breed. more lean and athletic. |
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Jun 1 2009, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(sstan @ Jun 1 2009, 09:04 AM) bully is a mix breed. more bulky but nt as active. american pitbull is a pure breed. more lean and athletic. Great to see this thread in pet wonderland. This Video should be able to explain more abt the difference btwn both breeds. Bare in mind Pitbull is also a mix. So does most of any other breed out there. No offense but most artist has switch interest over to the American Bully. Respect the breed and Ts for the love of the dog. This post has been edited by american bully: Jun 1 2009, 11:20 PM |
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Jun 2 2009, 09:59 AM
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pitbull had been designed hundreds of years before for the purpose of dogfighting.it is a working gamedog with superb courage and stamina which i admire. although i personally condemed the cruelty of dogfighting world.
but american bully had just came out of the scene 10-20 years with the purpose of a show dog. a lot breeders start breeding it becos of the higher profit it commands .the more bulky ur dog the more pricy. am bully is already taking the path of english bulldog. looks cute but full of health problems and shorter lifespan. these are the reasons why i prefer the more healthy and agile american pitbull. This post has been edited by sstan: Jun 2 2009, 10:08 AM |
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Jun 2 2009, 01:38 PM
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i'm not exactLy veRy fond of my pitbuLL but my famiLy seems to Like it...
My cousin used to have 2 pitbuLLs & gave its son to us... anyhow that was yeaRs ago... the dog died of oLd age (13 yRs oLd).. SUPER TOUGH dog... veRy BRAVE & STRONG!!!! veRY SMART too.. I don't favouR pitbuLLs veRy much because they R so HYPER active & noisy.. baRks ALOT x 1000000000 (but i guess that's y my dad Likes it so much) They make very very very GOOD guard dogs... They R so sTrong.. noRmaL dog chains cannot HoLd them back.. LOLs... they can bReak those chains veRy easiLy... & even brOke my fencing... i'LL post some pictuRes when i get home... ^^~ This post has been edited by JackLene: Jun 2 2009, 01:40 PM |
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Jun 2 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(sstan @ Jun 2 2009, 09:59 AM) pitbull had been designed hundreds of years before for the purpose of dogfighting.it is a working gamedog with superb courage and stamina which i admire. although i personally condemed the cruelty of dogfighting world. You're wrong on the rising health issues on American Bully.but american bully had just came out of the scene 10-20 years with the purpose of a show dog. a lot breeders start breeding it becos of the higher profit it commands .the more bulky ur dog the more pricy. am bully is already taking the path of english bulldog. looks cute but full of health problems and shorter lifespan. these are the reasons why i prefer the more healthy and agile american pitbull. Yes there is health problems on the breed...but that was way back before when the breed was found. After years of streamlining and quality breeding...the breed is as Healthy as other healthy dog breeds. They are show dogs, but they're very active too. It's totally nothing like the English Bulldog. Yes you might be able to read about dog breed information in the web, but you'll never really learn about it until you own one. Most breeder choose to switch interest towards American Bully, is not because of the profit. You can get an American Bully puppy for few hundred bucks & you can get one for tens of thousands. Its just like any other breed. If you want a top notch quality Alsation, you have to pay allot for it. The real reason behind breeding American Bully, is because of the strict rules and regulations they have on the Pitbull Terrier. And the public always have this negative point of view on the APBT, all because of the media. That is why the bully was bred. To change the mindset of the public, and to prevent the extinction of the APBT bloodline. |
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Jun 2 2009, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(american bully @ Jun 2 2009, 04:56 PM) You're wrong on the rising health issues on American Bully. but am bully always seems to be so out of breath.had never seen them do any active sports.Yes there is health problems on the breed...but that was way back before when the breed was found. After years of streamlining and quality breeding...the breed is as Healthy as other healthy dog breeds. They are show dogs, but they're very active too. It's totally nothing like the English Bulldog. Yes you might be able to read about dog breed information in the web, but you'll never really learn about it until you own one. Most breeder choose to switch interest towards American Bully, is not because of the profit. You can get an American Bully puppy for few hundred bucks & you can get one for tens of thousands. Its just like any other breed. If you want a top notch quality Alsation, you have to pay allot for it. The real reason behind breeding American Bully, is because of the strict rules and regulations they have on the Pitbull Terrier. And the public always have this negative point of view on the APBT, all because of the media. That is why the bully was bred. To change the mindset of the public, and to prevent the extinction of the APBT bloodline. some am bully has nice conformation, esp the old school type. but nw they had evolve to look like english bulldogs with short legs , short muzzle, and a body that is way to heavy to support their heart.  u have am bully for a few hundred bucks?guess those must be the leaner types which look more like apbt. if u have i am intersted even if apbt really become extinct am bully will never be able to replace the real american pitbull  |
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Jun 2 2009, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(sstan @ Jun 2 2009, 05:39 PM) but am bully always seems to be so out of breath.had never seen them do any active sports. sry, I didnt mean that it will replace APBT, no dissing.some am bully has nice conformation, esp the old school type. but nw they had evolve to look like english bulldogs with short legs , short muzzle, and a body that is way to heavy to support their heart. u have am bully for a few hundred bucks?guess those must be the leaner types which look more like apbt. if u have i am intersted even if apbt really become extinct am bully will never be able to replace the real american pitbull Like I said, you need to own one to start learning abt the breed. There are many types of bloodline in American Bully itself, so doest APBT. different bloodline carries different outlooks. There are thick American Bully who are able to jump up to about 6ft. high. Which is quite incredible for a dog height around 16". |
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Jun 2 2009, 11:31 PM
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This is TiggeR when he was a Puppy!!...
BIG APPETITE dog...   This post has been edited by JackLene: Jun 2 2009, 11:50 PM |
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Jun 3 2009, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE(JackLene @ Jun 2 2009, 11:31 PM) This is TiggeR when he was a Puppy!!... Wow he got a very nice coat.BIG APPETITE dog... Dig that Brindle. |
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QUOTE(JackLene @ Jun 2 2009, 11:31 PM) This is TiggeR when he was a Puppy!!... nice tiger pup.BIG APPETITE dog... wonder how he looks now? Added on June 3, 2009, 1:54 pm QUOTE(JackLene @ Jun 2 2009, 11:31 PM) This is TiggeR when he was a Puppy!!... nice tiger pup.BIG APPETITE dog... wonder how he looks now? This post has been edited by sstan: Jun 3 2009, 01:54 PM |
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WOW, I personally like pitbull because they look fierce and cute at the same time. Can i know is this dog get along with other breeds? I currently rare a Shih Tzu. If yes, i might get it as well
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Jun 3 2009, 03:05 PM) WOW, I personally like pitbull because they look fierce and cute at the same time. Can i know is this dog get along with other breeds? I currently rare a Shih Tzu. If yes, i might get it as well Does your Shih Tzu gets along well with other dogs?If you're planning to get a pitbull, you need to spend most of your time supervising it, and some training if possible, so that it wont hurt your shih tzu when its big. |
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Hmmm... i'm not too suRe about how weLL they get aLong with otheR dogs..
Mine is ReaLLy hypeR active and pLayfuLL... He LOVES to pLay with otheR dogs... but he pLays kinda Rough... HoweveR.... my StRaffoRdshiRe buLL TeRRieR & PitbuLL DOESN't GeT aLong.. Hahhahaha!!! We tRied to bReed them but they ended fighting + injuRed... |
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Jun 3 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(JackLene @ Jun 3 2009, 10:36 PM) Hmmm... i'm not too suRe about how weLL they get aLong with otheR dogs.. It's gd to have a pplayful dog as a pet, but sometime they can make you go berserk. =)Mine is ReaLLy hypeR active and pLayfuLL... He LOVES to pLay with otheR dogs... but he pLays kinda Rough... HoweveR.... my StRaffoRdshiRe buLL TeRRieR & PitbuLL DOESN't GeT aLong.. Hahhahaha!!! We tRied to bReed them but they ended fighting + injuRed... LOL always get a vet to do the job for you, if you plan to breed them. |
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Jun 4 2009, 10:00 AM
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The APBT is not a dog for everybody. It is a dog for the purist, for a dog lover prepared to spend time, patience, energy and attention on a dog that can drive you to distraction but can repay you in loyalty, obedience and affection in a way no other dog of other breeds can. The ban on importation limits the gene pool and it is difficult to find good APBTs locally. I tried but in the end settled for an APBT crossbreed. She is still young but shows good promise. Thai origin pitbulls are available but are mainly of the fighting line and very animal aggressive. The males are extremely competitive and do not mix well with other dogs, they always want to be #1, the alpha dog. If not well exercised, they can be destructive. If not well socialized, they will bark incessantly at all other passing dogs and animals. Your neighbors will hate you. Still want a pit bull terrier? Think 10 times again.
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Jun 4 2009, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Jun 4 2009, 10:00 AM) The APBT is not a dog for everybody. It is a dog for the purist, for a dog lover prepared to spend time, patience, energy and attention on a dog that can drive you to distraction but can repay you in loyalty, obedience and affection in a way no other dog of other breeds can. The ban on importation limits the gene pool and it is difficult to find good APBTs locally. I tried but in the end settled for an APBT crossbreed. She is still young but shows good promise. Thai origin pitbulls are available but are mainly of the fighting line and very animal aggressive. The males are extremely competitive and do not mix well with other dogs, they always want to be #1, the alpha dog. If not well exercised, they can be destructive. If not well socialized, they will bark incessantly at all other passing dogs and animals. Your neighbors will hate you. Still want a pit bull terrier? Think 10 times again. ya if wana keep pitbull just keep 1 dog. females will fight too.even dogs that are grown up together there is no garantee they will not suddenly fight one day. u must know that if pitbull raelly wana fight they will fight till death. |
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Jun 5 2009, 10:46 AM
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Ya i agRee O_o! my dog reaLLy is veRy destRuctive hahha!
But he doesn't fight tiL death la  veRy fRiendLy & pLayfuL dog... Not tRained to fight.... so he isn't that aggRessive... Just that he pLays too rough with my stRaffoRdshiRe buLL teRRieR tiL she got mad and attacked him back... HAHA! This post has been edited by JackLene: Jun 5 2009, 10:46 AM |
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QUOTE(JackLene @ Jun 5 2009, 10:46 AM) Ya i agRee O_o! my dog reaLLy is veRy destRuctive hahha! yea agree with you not every pitbulls are fierce.But he doesn't fight tiL death la veRy fRiendLy & pLayfuL dog... Not tRained to fight.... so he isn't that aggRessive... Just that he pLays too rough with my stRaffoRdshiRe buLL teRRieR tiL she got mad and attacked him back... HAHA! Mostly need to be train to be fierce. But that doesnt mean they wont go berserk lol. |
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Jun 6 2009, 10:09 AM
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ambully,
I did not appreciate that 'berserk' remark about apbts. You know I never ran down ambullies even though I thought some specimens were a warped and overpriced parody of what a good pit bull terrier should be. If a pit bull misbehaves badly, you can be sure there is an uncaring human being behind it - poor breeding, ill treatment, bad training; in short, an uncaring owner. The pit bull already suffers from enough undeserved bad press, it does not need any uncharitable comments from a dog owner/breeder. I am sure you did not mean it the way it came out but people have enough negative perceptions about apbts as it is. They may think all apbts are uncontrollable fighting dogs that can go mad at any time. That is patently untrue. |
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Jun 6 2009, 10:09 AM) ambully, Clearfish,I did not appreciate that 'berserk' remark about apbts. You know I never ran down ambullies even though I thought some specimens were a warped and overpriced parody of what a good pit bull terrier should be. If a pit bull misbehaves badly, you can be sure there is an uncaring human being behind it - poor breeding, ill treatment, bad training; in short, an uncaring owner. The pit bull already suffers from enough undeserved bad press, it does not need any uncharitable comments from a dog owner/breeder. I am sure you did not mean it the way it came out but people have enough negative perceptions about apbts as it is. They may think all apbts are uncontrollable fighting dogs that can go mad at any time. That is patently untrue. I think you're over sensitive. WTH? Im not saying that APBT is a bad breed! its just true that any dogs can go berserk RANDOMLY! I like APBT! Why Flame me? Warped & overpriced? maybe one day you'll understand more abt dogs. In this forum I've repeated the same thing for countless time, but i still face with the same question. OK, Most of the dog breed in this planet is a mix...it is through decades of breeding that the breed become pure. Take French Bulldog for example, they're a mix between Pug/english bulldog/terrier dogs. and if you want a top notch Frenchie, its gonna cost you a high price too! There are cheap Frenchies, if you're not so fussy on dogs. |
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Jun 6 2009, 05:26 PM
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ambully,
Sorry to disagree but no dog goes berserk randomly. There is always a reason for its behaviour. Just as there is a reason for a human to go amok. For your info, I have reared different breeds of dogs for over 20 years and there is no need to explain the ABC's of breeds to me. I have also fostered dogs awaiting new homes. It pains me to see them so misunderstood sometimes and treated like commodities to be bred and sold indiscriminately in this country. |
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Jun 6 2009, 05:51 PM
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ok i respect u on the experience on dogs,
but you don't need to be so sensitive to this extend. The breed doesnt deserve to be flame. its like you have grudge towards every post i made in lowyat. is it because the price of the bully?  This post has been edited by american bully: Jun 6 2009, 06:10 PM |
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Jun 6 2009, 07:02 PM
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ambully,
No, I am not against you or the price of bullies sold by you. You have some good looking bullies and you are entitled to sell them at the highest price you can get but do try to get them good owners as well. To me, a dog lover is more important as an owner if you want the best home for your puppies. Some moneyed buyers quickly lose interest after the novelty wears off. Poor dog gets fed but nothing else otherwise. Few breeders check their buyers' background or future home for the dog. Do you? I think you are the more sensitive one because of your vested interest in bullies. Sometimes it is hard to separate business and hobby. I am sensitive about how pet dogs are treated for I have seen how some unethical backyard breeders treat their stock. Even been conned by one many years ago. I think you love dogs but business considerations as a breeder may cloud your thinking at times. I don't have this problem. I really have nothing against you for you seem very decent and responsible. Sometimes we read too much into an innocuous comment. Sometimes we appear too critical and judgmental. Friends? ok? |
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Jun 6 2009, 08:22 PM
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of course friends! for sure.
yea I always keep in touch with my buyer. I'm willing to give their contacts to interested buyer for feedback abt my kennel and the way i deal. |
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Just thought I'd add into the thread:
 At 7 months:   I call him Dimebag. This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jun 12 2009, 11:56 PM |
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Jun 15 2009, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Jun 12 2009, 11:55 PM) Just thought I'd add into the thread: nice red nose u got there.At 7 months: I call him Dimebag. |
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Jun 16 2009, 11:19 AM
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nice rednose, but the tail is very long. hahaha
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Jun 28 2009, 10:16 PM
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Thx. He's a good boy.
Btw, do you guys build your own spring poles? I am interested to build one for him. For those who did, do share how you go about it. |
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Aug 11 2009, 06:32 PM
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Hey Moe81,
The APBT thread is here. Just no postings since June 09. You're just the guy to revive it. |
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waw, am i happy to see this thread... i thought there never was one.. how foolish.. perhaps, i shud have searched harder... hahahah..
hmm, i feel so out of material. since whatever i'm gonna post here will be redundant of what i've posted (clearfish) u know where.. but for the pitbull owners sake, shall i repost it? Moe p.s. some of the earlier post was hilirious in this thread...LOL. i was cracking up.. |
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Jun 4 2009, 10:00 AM) The APBT is not a dog for everybody. It is a dog for the purist, for a dog lover prepared to spend time, patience, energy and attention on a dog that can drive you to distraction but can repay you in loyalty, obedience and affection in a way no other dog of other breeds can. The ban on importation limits the gene pool and it is difficult to find good APBTs locally. I tried but in the end settled for an APBT crossbreed. She is still young but shows good promise. Thai origin pitbulls are available but are mainly of the fighting line and very animal aggressive. The males are extremely competitive and do not mix well with other dogs, they always want to be #1, the alpha dog. If not well exercised, they can be destructive. If not well socialized, they will bark incessantly at all other passing dogs and animals. Your neighbors will hate you. Still want a pit bull terrier? Think 10 times again. Just to share my experience, no discrimination, I had a Pitt Bull for 3 years, injured another neighbour APBT, killed another 'toy' dog, on both occasions he went INTO other people's hse and drag them out to the streets, will hunt and kill all who come into the house incl cats, rats, birds except for humans where he has very good temperament with. Totally friendly with all humans. Definitely a good breed if you're up to it and there was a lot of fun with it. Now I keep Bullmastiffs instead. |
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Aug 12 2009, 07:59 AM
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moe81,
Do repost a selection here. We need enthusiasts/owners to tell the public more on the positives of the gameline APBTs. And educate owners, both current and potential, on their responsibilities and to be very discriminate on their dog's ancestry. You get what you deserve in a pit bull ; if you don't research its ancestry and origins, be prepared for the unexpected. baby26, I believe you. Some APBTs are indeed very animal aggressive and territorial. A neighbor once had a super aggro unsocialised loud barking APBT which was a cat killer ; 9 known kills in the house compound ; caused friction with all other neighbors. Lived till 15. But was obedient and gentle as a lamb with his owners family members. He's had 2 other APBTs since ( incl the son of super aggro ) but none with that fearsome fighting aggression. Must have come direct from a fighting line, probably Thai origin, since he got the dog from Penang. He still misses super aggro and dreams one day of a replica replacement! |
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Here's my share...
My alpha male Rasco... A super obedient APBT! i know he doesn't look like one. LOL         Check out the below pic in comparison to the one right above!  I too have had some unwanted incidents.. perhaps one too many. but i'd say it's due to my carelessness and not the dog's fault. i rather not talk about the mishaps n create more negative perpective on the breed. unless u guys really wanna know and wud not for a second discrimininate the whole breed due to my carelessness. Mishaps: 5 kills, 2 attacks. p.s. just in case anyone wondering, i do not condone dog fighting.. it's cruelty. Moe This post has been edited by moe81: Aug 12 2009, 09:30 AM |
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Aug 12 2009, 09:50 AM
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Morning Moe,
Great to see your posts here. However, with regard to unwanted incidents, it is yours to share and for all to understand the APBT breed and its ancestry. I believe we need to talk both good and bad about the breed so people understand what they are getting into. This may help prevent repeat accidents. The bully breeders here are actively promoting their 'safe' dogs at high prices for the fashion conscious, about time game dogs got some back. |
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Aug 12 2009, 11:52 AM
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Morning brother clearfish,
Rasco was a avery quiet boy since pup. never likes to play. so, i socialised him a lil too much havin the fear that he'd turn out aggressive when he's grown.. Now, he's a very well socialised, well-behaved boy. but he has attacked and kill 5 dogs which are strays and bigger than himself. the reason being. As u can see in my first picture, there are lotsa strays outside my factory compound. they all sorta belongs to the company beside us but they dun really care. and to-date there's probably 30 of them just wondering the streets outside my compound. My dogs get 3 bathroom+play break a day. morning, afernoon and evening. and at night some of them will be loose doing the guarding job on rotation. the kennel and the main gate is about 100 meters away and can't really see the gate from the kennel. this is how the accident happens, when one person is letting the dogs outta the kennel, another person accidentally open the gate to go out without realising and leave leaving the main gate open. bein, the alpha dog, rasco can somehow magically sense the opened gate, and always manage to run out before anyone can close the gate.. and the speed, i dun have a word to describe it. he goes out attacks and fights with 10 dogs at a time, grabs one dogs neck a few shake, while doin this he gets bitten too by other nine dogs. he lets go of the dogs neck, bites another dog that's biting him and grabs back the same dog's neck all in nick of a second. i dun even dare to get in between all 11 dogs and pull rasco out. that's a masacre. After rasco has his share of excitement, he'll run back into my compound and into his kennel. All i cud do at this point, is to treat his bite wounds with the maggot spray. this all happens when i'm not the one letting the dog out for a break. coz if i do, he'll listen to me n not run out. so, i'll close the gate while the dogs are loose and he won't run out. but all the incidents happened when my workers were doin the chore. the poor dog which got bitten, dies within hours after that.. it's imposible to even treat them coz they're strays with no human contact and will run away if anyone goes near. i've burried 5 of those strays myself cleanin up after rasco. what a pity. besides that rasco has also bit 2 person.. both trespassers, and one of them was the cause of angel's death. she was rasco's mate. they've had pups together.. in that incident, rasco actually bite and broke the fence to go out and bite that guy. he has never done that. after the indcident was over and when we managed to out 2 and 2 together. we concluded that it was the same guy from the last break it which cost us angels life. RIP angels. here are some pics i her memory: Here are some pics of Angel(Romeo's mom)  Angel and Rasco when they were 5 months or so.  Angel and rasco sleeping.. with mosquito netting somemore.. hehehe   Angel and Rasco again.  New and refined angel after giving birt to six puppies(Romeo's litter)  |
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Aug 12 2009, 06:03 PM
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Moe,
Thanks for sharing Angel's story. At least her genes still reside in son Romeo, something to be thankful for. She died doing what she was trained for - protecting her territory. As for Rasco, he is alpha all right ; 1 against 10 and probably did'nt mind the odds. One thing though, strays may carry ticks and diseases ; not a good thing to mix it up with them. For his sake and theirs! Human trespassers are another story, you trespass at your own risk. Do you display ' Beware of Dog ' signs at your factory? Not that burglars care but to warn innocent intruders, if there are such. This post has been edited by clearfish: Aug 12 2009, 06:45 PM |
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Aug 15 2009, 02:54 PM
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Clearfish,
Thanks for the advice. appreciate it... sure am thankful as romeo possesses most if not all of angel's traits, besides the look. about mixing with strays, it was not intentional. and each incident didn't last too long. these were in the past. we've made sure that this doesn't happen again.. thanks again. and yes, we have 3 signs saying 'beware of dogs' along our fencing(the one faces the road). so i guess, whoever does break in, are well aware of what they may be walkin into. :| Here ara some pictures of romeo. pls do comment. as i'd really appreciate it.. i hope all the previous members will come back and start posting again.. heheh..          |
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Aug 16 2009, 11:34 AM
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Moe,
'Romeo. Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?' A line from Shakespeare remembered from my English Lit schooldays long ago but which sums up what a girl APBT would want in a mate. Romeo is hot stuff looks wise and if coupled with good temperament, health and blessed with smarts, is irresistible as a stud. How old is he, what are his vital stats? Be good to keep desirable APBT gene pool alive in Malaysia. There is'nt that much left here, what with importation ban, breeder migration to more profitable bully and current tepid interest in a demanding working breed that needs lots of time, space and attention. Yes, other APBT owners and enthusiasts, please do contribute your pictures, anecdotes and any useful information about your dog and the breed on this thread. Keep it alive and interesting. At least one posting a month would be welcome. |
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Aug 23 2009, 05:12 PM
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Romeo is darn good looking. I love his butterfly nose.
Here's my lil rascal boy, Kotzen.  So far, there hasn't been any accidents yet. He's not that DA anyway. Whenever he passes by a stray dog, he gets curious and wants to move in closer but never lounges on the suspect. He's rather racist, he loves German Shepherd and hates Rottweilers. Lol. Somehow I feel he's lacking of socialization so I'll be bringing him out more often these days. Do you guys bring your APBTs to obedience training classes or other classes? I am thinking of bring Kotzen for basic obedience training just to get his heelwork right. |
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Aug 24 2009, 12:10 AM
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freakfingers: Yea man. he probably needs more socialization. i never sent my dogs for any obedience training.. i pretty much trained em myself..
Well, i just got back from taking my dogs for jungle tracking. all 4 of em... it was a big fun day, tho tiring as hell. but well worth it. i've taken em' out before but never really got any pics. but this time we maneged to get some good shots coz a few frens came along and did the cameramen job full time.. will post the pics soon when i'm done editing.. Meanwhile, here's my girl champa. she's pregnant with rasco's pups.. she'll due on 5th september..    Added on August 25, 2009, 3:34 pmHye guys. like i told u, here are some pics of the jungle tracking we did lately..        any feedback is appreciated!!! This post has been edited by moe81: Aug 26 2009, 12:53 PM |
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Aug 26 2009, 08:06 PM
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awesome...looks like u r the 1 living with dogs LOL..very niz pics indeed..care to post mor pics of Champa..wanna see how blotted her belly is..cant wait for the pup bro seriously..im sure the pus are gonna be awsome..and romeo is getting more macho day by day..miss them alot..
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Aug 29 2009, 11:12 AM
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Just an update for fellow bros... champa will due within 3 days... Swwweeeett.....
Added on August 31, 2009, 11:04 pmChampa has delivered 11 pups.. 1 was born dead.. 10 pups now.. 7 males and 3 females... pics coming soon!!! Added on September 1, 2009, 3:25 pmHere are the pics of the pups.. i'll take more pics later in the week...     This post has been edited by moe81: Sep 1 2009, 03:25 PM |
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Sep 3 2009, 10:24 PM
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i can see my cute lil mofo there...hell lotsa of pups there...7 males 3 females huh..so the males gonna be like rasco,strong built muscular and cool approach..cant wait to get my hands on it..
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Sep 4 2009, 10:45 PM
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Tempting .... omg
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Sep 5 2009, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(xMika @ Sep 4 2009, 10:45 PM) Tempting .... omg cmon xmika..im preety sure moe81 will be letting go some pups for sale..its tempting nah?mine is rite at the bottom left of the pic..been waiting for the pups since the day champa was on heat.. |
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Sep 5 2009, 09:31 AM
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Brownies in a box.
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Sep 5 2009, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(sblitzzsara @ Sep 5 2009, 02:19 AM) cmon xmika..im preety sure moe81 will be letting go some pups for sale..its tempting nah?mine is rite at the bottom left of the pic..been waiting for the pups since the day champa was on heat.. Yeah, I talked about it with moe91 already ... but my dad dont want to buy dogs |
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Sep 5 2009, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(xMika @ Sep 5 2009, 12:05 PM) Yeah, I talked about it with moe91 already ... but my dad dont want to buy dogs im sure ur dad will be convinced once he sees the cute pups |
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Sep 5 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(sblitzzsara @ Sep 5 2009, 06:04 PM) im sure ur dad will be convinced once he sees the cute pups My dad likes doberman and he had one before ... 25 years ago =.= I not even borned yet lol ... I show him some cute pup pics from moe91 ... he just look & go away |
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Sep 5 2009, 10:30 PM
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hmmm, tell me when u're old enuf to get ur own pup.. i'll specially breed for u... hehehehehe
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Sep 6 2009, 01:53 AM
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hi all, so nice to see many APT owners here. anyway, below is my dog, her name is Joyce.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Have another male APT but have not taken his pix yet, will upload later if I do. This post has been edited by FuQuO: Sep 6 2009, 01:53 AM |
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Sep 6 2009, 12:13 PM
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hi moe,
So now you have become a foster parent of 10 cuties. They are completely adorable. Congratulations to you and kudos to champa. Who's helping you with the toiletry duties, it's going to get worse as they grow! Hope you are up to it. Post weekly pics of their progress. If only I can get the wife to agree, I'll love one notwithstanding we already have 3 dogs and 3 cats. She's a cat person, very wary of APBTs and their animal aggressive instincts. I just had my coco neutered last friday before her first heat comes. She's 8 months. Don't want any accidents. Within 24 hours, she was up & about and wanting to be taken for her morning walk. Cheers! |
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Sep 6 2009, 07:17 PM
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Fuquo: nice apbt u got there. show us the pic of ur other apbt too..
Clearfish: Thanks bro.. i have workers taking care of all my dogs. i'm sure they can manage all the cleaning ups..plus i'm selling all the pups.. hopefully they'll all be sold by 3 months of age. champa needs to get back to guarding duty..some of the pups has already been booked.. hehehe. i'll definately post pic updates as they grow..just tune in... a week old now.. can wait for them to open their eys in a weeks time. |
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Sep 6 2009, 09:32 PM
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waiting for the pups pics..
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Sep 6 2009, 11:14 PM
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thanks moe, will take pix of the male 1 when i am free.
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Sep 7 2009, 12:20 AM
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All breeders sells Apbt at a fixed 1200...
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Sep 7 2009, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Sep 5 2009, 10:30 PM) hmmm, tell me when u're old enuf to get ur own pup.. i'll specially breed for u... hehehehehe I'm 18 only Need to wait at least 8 years for me to finish my studies & have my own house before getting one LMAO. Can you wait ?  Added on September 7, 2009, 8:26 pmBy the way, moe91, no special student price ? LOL This post has been edited by xMika: Sep 7 2009, 08:26 PM |
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Sep 7 2009, 08:34 PM
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nice pups u got there bro..! gonna sell them to petshop? how much u selling each?
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Sep 8 2009, 09:26 AM
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No bro... i will never sell to petshop.. i have ppl lined up already, waiting to see the puppy pics to book em... i wanna be able to assess the buyer before selling..
Sorry mika, no student rates.. the price i PMed you is very attractive already in contrast to the one above by other breeders... On another note, i was out on animal planet, snake crusader show with bruce george. in the episode 'malaysia uncovered'. the topic was snake crusader "batman". anyone caught me there? Added on September 8, 2009, 9:44 amHere are some pic updates...  My dog kennel  Puppy nursery.    This post has been edited by moe81: Sep 8 2009, 09:44 AM |
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Sep 9 2009, 10:33 AM
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morning moe,
More pics, eh! A custom built puppy nursery of plywood and timber, with lights what more. Privacy for nursing mother and pups, away from prying eyes. You are resourceful. Do your prospective buyers have to fill in forms detailing living space and conditions and their experience raising dogs? Then wait to be interviewed and shortlisted? Sign a contract? Reminds me of the lady from Caragan Kennels, USA, with her many pre-conditions for buyers of her exclusively bred show quality apbts. One condition is that you cannot be a bully owner or breeder! Another is that you must have the puppy trained. She really is passionate about her dogs and you can understand why when you see their championship lineage. Did'nt know you were on an Animal Planet episode, would have tuned in otherwise. I have seen a pic of you kissing a snake (king cobra?) somewhere, so I know you are intimate with snakes. Let us know when the re-run comes on, will catch you then. |
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Sep 9 2009, 10:57 AM
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morning clearfish,
I'm resourceful?? Geez, thanks.. the puppy nursery was actually a machine crate that was a lil bad in shape. so, i modified it into what it is now.. and just used the reptile heat lamp dome for heat at night.. LOL.. i dun do all that to assess my buyers. i'm neither a professional breeder nor my my dogs are champion line quality.. i wud just like to have a lil insights of the person and the family that my pups gonna go to. and also, not to the hands that's gonna bring negativity to the breed. i'm pretty sure u know what i mean and what i'll be looking for in a buyer.. i didn't know the episode was out either.. my dad's fren pointed out to my dad and he check on the re-run and asked me to watch it.. I tried searching for the video, i found this...  i guess the video is not out on internet(i.e. youtube) yet.. Here's links to some of my video: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=29634409 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M32Ylx_8LrI |
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Sep 9 2009, 04:21 PM
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yo moe,
Was life then too boring for you or what ? The king cobra could have got you not on the fingers but in the family jewels. Your chance of future little moes or moettes could have disappeared just like that. The king cobra kissing video was entertaining though, was it a male or female snake ? Thanks for sharing. What other adventures/escapades do you get yourself into ? Riding wild elephants ? Just pulling your leg regarding interviews and signed contracts on buying a puppy from you. I've never heard it done here and it is probably not enforceable in Malaysian courts anyway. I will never be able to give up any of my pups, that's one of the reasons I neuter all my dogs. Looking forward to see pics of your pups with eyes wide open soon... |
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Sep 9 2009, 06:21 PM
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hahah moe.. u r just another adventurer person huh!! doing those stuff that ppl think "crazy" !haha .. all the best bro!
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Sep 9 2009, 07:17 PM
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LOL..u guys should meet Moe in person...and yes he has hell lot of adventurous experience (the nasty bite of course)..i salute him looking at the way he keeps his animals..BTW Moe i will fix to the pup i confirmed earlier.i couldn't resist it.keep running in my mind..anxiously waiting to get my hands on dat lil mofo..
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Sep 10 2009, 05:40 AM
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QUOTE(sblitzzsara @ Sep 9 2009, 07:17 PM) LOL..u guys should meet Moe in person...and yes he has hell lot of adventurous experience (the nasty bite of course)..i salute him looking at the way he keeps his animals..BTW Moe i will fix to the pup i confirmed earlier.i couldn't resist it.keep running in my mind..anxiously waiting to get my hands on dat lil mofo.. salute him too.. hav chance lepak wit him few times years ago.. very nice person he is.. |
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Sep 10 2009, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(mugai @ Sep 10 2009, 05:40 AM) salute him too.. hav chance lepak wit him few times years ago.. very nice person he is.. Really? who are u la bro? cannot make out with just the nick... |
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Sep 10 2009, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Aug 12 2009, 09:50 AM) Morning Moe, Bro, If you're not happy about the bully pricing and couldn't afford one, just keep it to yourself...seriously.Great to see your posts here. However, with regard to unwanted incidents, it is yours to share and for all to understand the APBT breed and its ancestry. I believe we need to talk both good and bad about the breed so people understand what they are getting into. This may help prevent repeat accidents. The bully breeders here are actively promoting their 'safe' dogs at high prices for the fashion conscious, about time game dogs got some back. It's not ethical to be talking trash about other people behind their back. This shows how cheapskate you are. As far as I'm concern, I'm breeding quality American Bullies, and the pricing is correct. FYI good quality pits will cost you a fortune too. MYOB. ps : haters are weak. |
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Sep 11 2009, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(american bully @ Sep 10 2009, 09:56 PM) Bro, If you're not happy about the bully pricing and couldn't afford one, just keep it to yourself...seriously. ambully,It's not ethical to be talking trash about other people behind their back. This shows how cheapskate you are. As far as I'm concern, I'm breeding quality American Bullies, and the pricing is correct. FYI good quality pits will cost you a fortune too. MYOB. ps : haters are weak. Is there something seriously the matter with you? I don't see anything in my earlier comment that is denigrating to any one in general or to bully breeders in particular. If there is, just debate about it without name calling and making erroneous assumptions There will always be rivalry between pits and bully lovers but it does not have to turn malicious. It can be constructive. I am not sure why you got all offended and made personal remarks about me. This is hardly the way an ambassador of the bully breed should behave. Earlier on, I made allowances for you, including your not-so-good understanding of English, but not now. Whether the gloves remain off depends on you. If you really want to promote the bully breed and not just the money in the breed, do the following for a start : *Re-vamp the intro in your American Bully thread. It is full of syntax and grammatical errors. Facts are jumbled and sentence construction is weak. It hardly conveys a good image of the breed promoter's knowledge and his professionalism. *Justify the high pricing for the bully as compared to the pit and amstaff in Malaysia. Looks and fashion trends will not do it. The gulf is too wide. *Do not make a comment that '..the condition of the (a fellow breeder's) place is somewhat like a puppy mill..'. Hardly ethical, trashing a competitor on your own thread. *Do not assume someone who disapproves of the bully's high pricing cannot afford one. I assure you I can afford not just one top notch bully but a fully functional kennel as well if I ever decide to be a dog breeder. This is only a sample. Lots more to come if required. This post has been edited by clearfish: Sep 11 2009, 12:48 PM |
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Sep 11 2009, 10:40 AM) ambully, OMG you're the one making all the assumptions, my friend.Is there something seriously the matter with you? I don't see anything in my earlier comment that is denigrating to any one in general or to bully breeders in particular. If there is, just debate about it without name calling and making erroneous assumptions There will always be rivalry between pits and bully lovers but it does not have to turn malicious. It can be constructive. I am not sure why you got all offended and made personal remarks about me. This is hardly the way an ambassador of the bully breed should behave. Earlier on, I made allowances for you, including your not-so-good understanding of English, but not now. Whether the gloves remain off depends on you.  If you really want to promote the bully breed and not just the money in the breed, do the following for a start : *Re-vamp the intro in your American Bully thread. It is full of syntax and grammatical errors. Facts are jumbled and sentence construction is weak. It hardly conveys a good image of the breed promoter's knowledge and his professionalism. *Justify the high pricing for the bully as compared to the pit and amstaff in Malaysia. Looks and fashion trends will not do it. The gulf is too wide. *Do not make a comment that '..the condition of the (a fellow breeder's) place is somewhat like a puppy mill..'. Hardly ethical, trashing a competitor on your own thread. *Do not assume someone who disapproves of the bully's high pricing cannot afford one. I assure you I can afford not just one top notch bully but a fully functional kennel as well if I ever decide to be a dog breeder. This is only a sample. Lots more to come if required. we breed bully for fashion conscious? Man what do you know how the way we feel and love for our dogs...? I've justify the reason of bully pricing millions of time, maybe you just couldn't read... Well I was just trying to warn people not to get cheated...as Some people out there do breed low grade dogs, and sell it expensive. Do you have any problems with that? People ask me about the condition of the place...I'm just stating facts! since most of the members here are new to the breed...I don't want them to get cheated. Is that bad for you? And please...I don't compete with any breeders, I did recommend good breeders to some of the members in the forum... And what do you know about it? SINCE when did I talk shit about pits...??????  Your the one who keep talking shit about bully and the pricing. You've done it over and over again even after I've explain it millions of time. JEALOUS... Didn't expect you to do that even after we resolve previous dispute through pm. You talk too much, you should be like MOE81, some one who walk the talk. Keep on talking...sick and tired of people like you. KEYBOARD WARRIOR. This post has been edited by american bully: Sep 11 2009, 02:18 PM |
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Sep 11 2009, 02:49 PM
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ambully,
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Sep 11 2009, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Sep 11 2009, 02:49 PM) ambully, You really do have some serious personal issues. Do not see a foe where there is none. Do some self examination.  |
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I din know that the forum would be this interesting.. With all the debates and battles in protecting their loved breeds... By the way I'm new to this.. But I've been reading quite a bit through this forum... So thought of just dropping by a short comment on this thread...
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Sep 11 2009, 02:49 PM) ambully, You really do have some serious personal issues. Do not see a foe where there is none. Do some self examination. QUOTE(English phrasing is attributed to Jesus of Nazareth in the Biblical book of Luke) Do not do to others what you would not like to be done to you. Ah, lets recite some more words, I'm sure there's more to it. How bout, "Siapa yang termakan cili, terasa pedas". Nice! This post has been edited by Hookah Stuff: Sep 11 2009, 05:00 PM |
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Sep 13 2009, 01:35 AM
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guys..relax lah..we are all dog lovers,so there shudnt be any barriers among us..so i suggest you guys take it calm and be in peace..no more argument buddies..
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Sep 13 2009, 01:36 AM
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Deadly truth about Pedigree Dogs EXPOSED!
Must view this: Shocking truth......think twice before breeding your dogs at home.....better to neuter them to stop genetic mutation..... http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=44215931 |
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Sep 13 2009, 12:56 PM
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Hey moe81, CONGRATULATIONS on your puppies! Anyway, you've got PM.
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Sep 13 2009, 05:52 PM
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for those who has been anxiously waiting... here are the pups.. almost 2 weeks old..
Females Female 1    Female 2    Female 3    This post has been edited by moe81: Sep 17 2009, 09:38 AM |
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Sep 13 2009, 05:55 PM
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OMG! Their cuteness kills.
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Sep 13 2009, 06:01 PM
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here are the :
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Sep 13 2009, 06:02 PM
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Keep em comin bro.
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Sep 13 2009, 06:03 PM
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Male 4
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Sep 13 2009, 11:43 PM
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Nice pics bro. So when can I pick them up?
Thought of giving them a visit this raya holidays. |
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QUOTE(shirllin @ Sep 13 2009, 01:36 AM) Deadly truth about Pedigree Dogs EXPOSED! Watching it now .. 1st 5 minutes make me feels sad already Must view this: Shocking truth......think twice before breeding your dogs at home.....better to neuter them to stop genetic mutation..... http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=44215931 @ moe91, cute pups ! eye also haven fully opened yet |
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Sep 16 2009, 11:14 AM
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Yea mika...
they're gettin bigger by the day... can't wait for them to be running around the compound with the adults... |
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Sep 16 2009, 02:16 PM
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Female 4 & Male 5 soo cute & beautiful !
Male 4 is freakinfingers ones ? Looks nice |
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Sep 16 2009, 02:53 PM
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Mika, there ain't female 4. only 3 females..
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Sep 17 2009, 02:27 AM
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male 4..yup tats ma boy..hope he will grow into a gangsta...Moe were u talking about the male #6 to me?
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Sep 17 2009, 08:37 AM
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i tot male 6 would be nicer? no?
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Sep 17 2009, 09:47 AM
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Hehehheh.. yes sara, male 6 is the huge bugger.. but somehow, the muzzle isn't as attractive as male 1.. male# 1 has short and wide muzzle. gonna look really mean when he grows up...but the marking on male 1 a bit off-centered. but i guess, that's what makes him special..
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Sep 17 2009, 07:59 PM
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Wow, I think they are all cute. Can't wait for them to be 8 weeks!!
Moe, update us with pics k. Sara, i think male 4 is a great choice. Love his colours. |
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Sep 18 2009, 12:04 AM
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Guys, here's my godson tyson... he's 4.5 months old.. he's gonna be spendin the holiday with the whole team(rasco, romeo, baby, and champa)
   what ya'll think? he's a meany huh... This post has been edited by moe81: Sep 18 2009, 12:05 AM |
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Sep 18 2009, 12:25 AM
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Hello all,
i am getting 1 or 2 pitbulls this saturday. these are the pics. can someone please reply to me: - 1. what to look out for when chooosing a pitbull pub 2. seller claims these are the 'square head' and 'big bones' types. what are these? 3. any color that is better? i would prefer brownish color. 4. the price is rm900 each. is it reasonable enough? thank you. i hope someone will help me thanks. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Sep 18 2009, 02:01 AM
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Wow moe, Tyson is one mean looking bully with the cutest smile.
 Wonderful, can socialise with the babies.Are the babies old enough to play already? @mikehwy 1. what you gotta do is research research research. its not a breed you can easily get out of. pit bulls need lots of responsibilities, in fact every dog is. when choosing a pit bull, try to visit the breeder's place and get used to playing around with the pup. choose the pup who you think likes you the most. 2. rule of the thumb, get from a breeder u trust. what is he breeding for? how does he care for his dogs? does he socialise his dogs and pups? where are the pups taken care of? are they healthy? any healthy dog can be a great companion. well, what he says doesn't matter, you need to view the parents of the puppies to believe it. 3. there's no exception for colours, just go ahead with your preference. 4. price depends solely on your budget. if you think its reasonable then by all means go ahead. I hope I helped. |
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Sep 18 2009, 03:00 AM
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Sep 18 2009, 12:04 AM) Guys, here's my godson tyson... he's 4.5 months old.. he's gonna be spendin the holiday with the whole team(rasco, romeo, baby, and champa) bro wer de heck u gt that?LOL...awesome looking bully..if im nt mistaken i know whose it is..spencer's???damn...u make my eyes go ..................btw hws the pup doing...i know u will be concern of the pups rather then the mother of the pups itself ..LOL...reli envy the way u take care of em...what ya'll think? he's a meany huh... Added on September 18, 2009, 3:06 am QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Sep 17 2009, 07:59 PM) Wow, I think they are all cute. Can't wait for them to be 8 weeks!! thanks mate..hope he grows into a handsome looking gangsta..the first thing once im bek frm my holiday trip is to build a cage for him..but i like to let my dogs roam free..unless visitors are scared of it..use to own a huge female rottweiler..so obedient and very intelligent..love her so much n miss her alot..hope i will raise this lil bugger better then her...btw u re getting a pup too i guess,congrats bro..u made a right choice for selecting the good breeder..i fully recommend this breeder...LOL... Moe, update us with pics k. Sara, i think male 4 is a great choice. Love his colours. This post has been edited by sblitzzsara: Sep 18 2009, 03:06 AM |
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Sep 18 2009, 03:56 AM
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^ Haha, sara. I know right. Moe is like one of the most ethical breeders out there. Yup mine's female 3.
Oh, I've been wanting to DIY my own crate too. Good luck on that. You seem like a lovely responsible owner. This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Sep 18 2009, 04:00 AM |
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Sep 18 2009, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Sep 18 2009, 02:01 AM) Wow moe, Tyson is one mean looking bully with the cutest smile. Hi freakfingers, Wonderful, can socialise with the babies.Are the babies old enough to play already? @mikehwy 1. what you gotta do is research research research. its not a breed you can easily get out of. pit bulls need lots of responsibilities, in fact every dog is. when choosing a pit bull, try to visit the breeder's place and get used to playing around with the pup. choose the pup who you think likes you the most. 2. rule of the thumb, get from a breeder u trust. what is he breeding for? how does he care for his dogs? does he socialise his dogs and pups? where are the pups taken care of? are they healthy? any healthy dog can be a great companion. well, what he says doesn't matter, you need to view the parents of the puppies to believe it. 3. there's no exception for colours, just go ahead with your preference. 4. price depends solely on your budget. if you think its reasonable then by all means go ahead. I hope I helped. many thanks for your advice. yes, i do love dogs. i had my ex playful boxer and i really do keep and play with them. ok, i willl check out your facts with the breeeder, and hope that i can get a loyal and kind pup. cheers. |
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Sep 18 2009, 09:50 AM
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sara & freakfingers:
To ur surprise, tyson is not a bully but an APBT...  hahahahah. i know how u feel... i felt the same too.. he's a big b@st@rd ... i'm not entirely sure bout the originality of his bloodline but the owner claims that he's a showline pitbull.. only time will tell. i'll be training him for guarding as per the owner's request..he's too young to show any pitbull traits yet.. so, we'll wait and see... sara: Never let ur dog roam free, atleast not in the early essential part of it's life... caging/crating a dog has it's benefits that u'll reap in the future. helps alot in toilet training and some obedience too. ALWAYS 'play ur part' . remember u're the 'pack leader', act like one and ur dog WILL look up to you. freakfingers: The pups aren't old enuf to play yet.. but soon... rasco and romeo are a lil unhappy with the new company but i'm pretty sure, with some guidance they'll warm into each other very soon... mikehwy: Congrats mike.. welcome to the family... i need not say more.. freakfingers has pretty much nailed it.. stick to his guidelines, and u won't drift too far from what's right.. otherwise, the price is good...Regards This post has been edited by moe81: Sep 18 2009, 09:52 AM |
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Sep 18 2009, 10:42 AM
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mikehwy:
Congrats mike.. welcome to the family... i need not say more.. freakfingers has pretty much nailed it.. stick to his guidelines, and u won't drift too far from what's right.. otherwise, the price is good...Regards [/quote] wow, so you are the trainer for puppies!!! really envious of your skills and knowledge. i hope i can ask you questions about 'taming' my pitbull pub in the near future? can i?  many many thanks x 1000. |
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Sep 18 2009, 11:36 AM
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Not a biggie mike... u're welcome to ask me anythin u want to... if it's within my speciality, i'll definately try my best to accomodate ur query...
Regards, dear brother clearfish. we have been missing ur presence... you've got pm. |
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Sep 18 2009, 12:18 PM
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moe81,
truly appreciate your replies. i have decided that i will go ahead and get them tomorrow saturday !!! wholehearted thanks to all forumers and pals .... |
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Sep 18 2009, 03:11 PM
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moe,
Decided to go M.I.A. for a while, not joining the US Marines or anything of that kind. Just chilling out, and checking out pit vs bully websites, forums and blogs in USA for a sampling of the pit/bully debate in past years as well as present. Some debates can really get heated but in general, dog owners in USA take the trouble to be well informed and despite outspoken disagreements, personal warfare does not break out between opposing factions. I found this article at http://www.realpitbull.com/bully.html informative and recommend it as good background material for those who are interested to know the development of the breed. It appears factually accurate and objective, even if some people may disagree with me. I like all your puppies, they are all helplessly adorable at this age with personality, temperament, intelligence not showing till much later in individuals. But if they are like Rasco and Champa, they should have great potential. Keep the pics flowing weekly if you have time to post. Is Tyson a bully type pit registered with UKC? You can't tell these days since many bully type pits don't conform to UKC registry standards necessarily. Promises to be a big guy. Good looker, though, and sure to turn some heads. No offense, but I still prefer the conformed pit look. This post has been edited by clearfish: Sep 18 2009, 03:29 PM |
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Sep 18 2009, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Sep 18 2009, 03:11 PM) moe, No hard feelinds, dog markets are big so people are always on the move to create some damages. Decided to go M.I.A. for a while, not joining the US Marines or anything of that kind. Just chilling out, and checking out pit vs bully websites, forums and blogs in USA for a sampling of the pit/bully debate in past years as well as present. Some debates can really get heated but in general, dog owners in USA take the trouble to be well informed and despite outspoken disagreements, personal warfare does not break out between opposing factions. I found this article at http://www.realpitbull.com/bully.html informative and recommend it as good background material for those who are interested to know the development of the breed. It appears factually accurate and objective, even if some people may disagree with me. I like all your puppies, they are all helplessly adorable at this age with personality, temperament, intelligence not showing till much later in individuals. But if they are like Rasco and Champa, they should have great potential. Keep the pics flowing weekly if you have time to post. Is Tyson a bully type pit registered with UKC? You can't tell these days since many bully type pits don't conform to UKC registry standards necessarily. Promises to be a big guy. Good looker, though, and sure to turn some heads. No offense, but I still prefer the conformed pit look. Different people have different taste, even the articel mention that creating breed takes decades. So if we can't even start, where should we start of than? From what I know, I think its been breed since 1990. Well, no harm there too. We are not really saying APBT isn't great. We appreciate the presence of APBT and Amstaff, or else there won't be an AmBully breed. I don't see videos that are promoting AmbUlly says that APBT isn't great. |
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Sep 18 2009, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Sep 18 2009, 03:11 PM) moe, HELLO THERE,Decided to go M.I.A. for a while, not joining the US Marines or anything of that kind. Just chilling out, and checking out pit vs bully websites, forums and blogs in USA for a sampling of the pit/bully debate in past years as well as present. Some debates can really get heated but in general, dog owners in USA take the trouble to be well informed and despite outspoken disagreements, personal warfare does not break out between opposing factions. I found this article at http://www.realpitbull.com/bully.html informative and recommend it as good background material for those who are interested to know the development of the breed. It appears factually accurate and objective, even if some people may disagree with me. I like all your puppies, they are all helplessly adorable at this age with personality, temperament, intelligence not showing till much later in individuals. But if they are like Rasco and Champa, they should have great potential. Keep the pics flowing weekly if you have time to post. Is Tyson a bully type pit registered with UKC? You can't tell these days since many bully type pits don't conform to UKC registry standards necessarily. Promises to be a big guy. Good looker, though, and sure to turn some heads. No offense, but I still prefer the conformed pit look. WHAT A BIAS ARTICLE YOU HAVE OVER THERE LOL. THAT MUST BE WRITTEN LIKE 10 YEARS BACK?! LMAO THE "BULLY" HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE YEAR 1990. OH, IT'S CLOSE 2 DECADES NOW...SO...OH SO IT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS A WHOLE NEW BREED NOW RIGHT?! AGAIN, DON'T SLAM THE BREED IF YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT!!! USING AN ARTICLE FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SAME OPINION AS YOU DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING ! THIS IS AN ARTICLE FROM THE FOUNDER OF AMERICAN BULLY. IT EXPLAINS CLEARLY ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PIT AND A BULLY. DOESN'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP HATING THE BREED FOR NO REASON LOL. REMARKS : no breed was discriminated in the article below LOL. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by american bully: Sep 18 2009, 04:16 PM |
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Sep 18 2009, 09:50 AM) sara & freakfingers: LOL..the look is like a bully though..anyway tats a niz mofo..dun tell me u bought that too! anyway thanx for the advice dear brother.i shall keep it in mind..maybe now in the beginning stage i would mind to cage him up juz for getting him use too with things around and knows wat is a cage ..later on sure not gonna cage him unless needed..i will try and see which method works the best for the pup..if he is smart enuf to understand my commands then no problemo..i guess my family will play their role to raise the lil guy to be an obedient dog too.To ur surprise, tyson is not a bully but an APBT... hahahahah. i know how u feel... i felt the same too.. he's a big b@st@rd ... i'm not entirely sure bout the originality of his bloodline but the owner claims that he's a showline pitbull.. only time will tell. i'll be training him for guarding as per the owner's request..he's too young to show any pitbull traits yet.. so, we'll wait and see... sara: Never let ur dog roam free, atleast not in the early essential part of it's life... caging/crating a dog has it's benefits that u'll reap in the future. helps alot in toilet training and some obedience too. ALWAYS 'play ur part' . remember u're the 'pack leader', act like one and ur dog WILL look up to you. |
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Sep 19 2009, 03:06 PM
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Finally bought 2 4-weeks old putbulls.
one is 'tiger-looking' black and brown and another is brown. now they are resting, after 1.5 hours of travelling. will feed them with little water and Everyday milk to revitalise them. hope i can handle them well. the breeder advised me to continue feeding them with Pro Plan Puppie Lamb biscuits, with Everyday milk powder to make them strong at the start. 4 meals a day. are these correct? |
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Sep 19 2009, 04:39 PM
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@mikehwy, CONGRATULATIONS on your new puppies.
Tiger coat is called Brindle coat. They are very nice. Yes, feed 'em 4 times a day until they are 3 months of age. Then reduce to 3 times a day until they are 6 months of age. Then, 2 times a day until around 1 year of age. Sure you can handle them. Prepare for some whining tonight. Haha. |
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Sep 19 2009, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Sep 19 2009, 04:39 PM) @mikehwy, CONGRATULATIONS on your new puppies. Many Many Thanks x 1000 !!! Tiger coat is called Brindle coat. They are very nice. Yes, feed 'em 4 times a day until they are 3 months of age. Then reduce to 3 times a day until they are 6 months of age. Then, 2 times a day until around 1 year of age. Sure you can handle them. Prepare for some whining tonight. Haha. yeah, i am feeding them just now. tiring though as 2 of them at times fight !!! i just love them man..... any further advices, please kindly leave them here for me to learn learn. cheers & Good Afternoon. |
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Sep 19 2009, 05:48 PM
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Well mike, my advice is to take things easy for your puppies but never stop socialising them at this age.
Where do you keep them? Have you named them? Are they living inside or outside the house? Here's a short article: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?a...281474977300717 Have fun with your new pack members. This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Sep 19 2009, 05:49 PM |
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Sep 19 2009, 06:05 PM
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Hi freakginfers12,
we all (including my maid) are palying and toying with them, till they fell asleep. hehe. i am keeping them in a little enclosure (near my washing machine) measuring 3 x 3 feet. airy, spacious, with newspapers and clothes on the floor. i guess it is cosy enough. oh, they are now insdie the house. ah, it is fun. thank pal. |
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Sep 21 2009, 09:46 PM
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Hey moe81, any updates on 'em?
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Sep 23 2009, 09:05 AM
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freakfingers12: hey bro.. the pups are lookin greater than ever.. this morning was true treat seeing them runnin around with their clumsy self. picking them up indivdually one at a time just to have a close look and for them get used to my touch took forever.. especially it has been 4 days since i last saw them..
Ur girl is looking really pretty bro..  all i can imagine pickin up each pup is the owner's face when they see the pup..hahahahawill put pics up soon.. in a day or so.. |
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Sep 24 2009, 12:00 AM
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Haha good to hear that you're back.
This means... Pics time!Have videos moe? Better. Can see them playing around. Great. How is my girl going? I can't wait to see her. In fact, I think on the day of pick up I might actually drive all the way to your place instead of meeting at KL. |
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Sep 25 2009, 04:43 PM
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i guesss it's pic time now...!!!
hey wenchiang, try to pick out ur girl..           This post has been edited by moe81: Oct 8 2009, 02:47 PM |
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Sep 25 2009, 07:14 PM
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OMG SO CUTE$%@#
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Sep 25 2009, 09:25 PM
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That little big mouth devil has got to be my girl. Haha. Look at her climbing all the way up just to pose for the camera. What a camwhore she's gonna be. Omg! This reminds me of when Kotzen was little. So cute! |
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Sep 25 2009, 09:48 PM
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freakfingers, are u goin to crop her ears?
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Sep 25 2009, 11:16 PM
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Nah I love natural ears. But if I have extra cash, then why not. Haha..
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Sep 26 2009, 10:00 AM
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Moe,
What a difference 2 weeks make! Pups look happy and healthy. I count only 9 pups though, thought there were 7 males, what's the story with male#7 ? Color scheme seems more Champa than Rasco, with dark shades predominating. I look forward to seeing Romeo's pups, if you ever breed him. Freakfingers, Like your girl's dark triangular patch over the right eye. Resembles bull terrier marking. |
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Sep 26 2009, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Sep 26 2009, 10:00 AM) Moe, Haha, thanks! What a difference 2 weeks make! Pups look happy and healthy. I count only 9 pups though, thought there were 7 males, what's the story with male#7 ? Color scheme seems more Champa than Rasco, with dark shades predominating. I look forward to seeing Romeo's pups, if you ever breed him. Freakfingers, Like your girl's dark triangular patch over the right eye. Resembles bull terrier marking. Moe81, do you work your dogs on a springpole? Dunno if I've asked you this question already or not lol. |
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Sep 26 2009, 08:12 PM
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wow wow, they look so cute !!!
i bought 2 last weeks and pics to come later .... haha, so cute man !!! thanks for the lovely pics. |
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Sep 28 2009, 04:00 PM
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@freakfingers12
Hahaha.. right on.. that is ur pup... as to date she responds very well to human touch compared to others. she wags her tail comes towards you with a smiling mouth.. so cute... nope i haven't worked any of my dogs on springpole. just never thot of constructing the equipment.. but i do work on pulling crate tho.. Cropping ears are merely preference of the ower. just go with the look which suits ur dogs and ur personality... but she's gonna be a big girl.. @clearfish oh.. i must have forgotten to inform the lost of a male pup on 5th day... that particular pup was too small and was too weak to even suckle milk.. i even tried hand-feeding, but cud not safe him.. that's a bummer tho.. but there's nothin much i cud have done.. poor soul.. RIP.. @mikehwy thanks mike.. there's more pics to come.. |
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Sep 28 2009, 05:01 PM
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moe,
i dont understand your 'springpole' or 'crate' ???? what type of training are those? care to clarify? my pups are now 5th week liao .... hahaha ... love them |
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Sep 29 2009, 12:11 AM
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moe, haha I am glad to hear that. All your puppies look very happy. They are definitely in good hands.
Play with my girl more , let her get out and run around the yard. Oh I've built a springpole for my Kotzen but he's never interested in it. He's more of a flirtpole guy. mike, a springpole is a bait you hang onto something to lure your dog into jumping and hold on to the bait. It is a good exercise for your dogs. You can built them easy with just about 20 - 30 bux like I did. What he meant by pulling crate is weight pulling exercise for a more bulky muscle tone. You tie your dog's harness to a weight, could be anything from tyres to boxes or anything that has weight. Erm, mike, you took your pups back last week right? And now they are at 5 weeks of age? Means you took them at 4th week?This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Sep 29 2009, 12:27 AM |
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Sep 29 2009, 10:46 AM
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Ermmm, mike took his puppy at the age of 4 weeks?
that's not a good time to separate the pups from the b****.. they need to drink their mom's milk for atleast 7 weeks.. it helps alot in immunization at that age... i hope u're still feeding it some milk.. try also adding in fresh goat's milk.. that really helps in the early stage..any reason y ur breeder decided to let the pups to be taken at 4 weeks of age? i wud never do that ever.. it has to past 8 weeks in my case period.. no exceptions.. as for crate pulling, here are some pics...   these pics above were taken while i was still constructing the crate.. after it was completely done, with all the modification after trial and error, the crate worked great.. the last time i worked rasco on it, he cud pull 7 cement bags arranged on the crate.. didn't have anything more to add.. i've purchased a professional pulling harness from the US. i has been shipped. waiting for that now.. next, we're gonna try for myvi.. i dun think it's gonna be much of an effort.. the new weight pull harness that i bought looks somewhat like this..  |
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Sep 29 2009, 11:43 AM
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Sweet! I'm a big fan of weight pulling. How much did the weight pull harness cost you?
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Sep 29 2009, 06:14 PM
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HI freakfingers and moe,
yes, i bought the 2 pups after reading their bloodline (thailand champion bloodline. but i think it is few generations ady?). it took me 1.5 hours to drive and find that place. there were 9 of them there, and 2 very very beautiful oneswere booked, so i had t take my choices asap, or else someone would have bought them. feel so bad after reading you people's view (shd not separate pups till 9 weeks of age). but the breeder kept on calling me for the 1st 2 days for giving them glucose etc etc. so far, the pupsare very strong and i feedthem 'everyday milk' and Pro Plan chicken biscuits. of course we all play with them. the next thing is the >> weight thingy. let me study the 'springpole' and 'crate' stuff. moe, 1. wow wow, your pitbull really can tarik all those weights? cant believe it at all, serious!!! 2. are those pitbulls? they look really strong!!! are they pitbulls?? but mine also look very study, as the breeder said they are the 'square head' and 'bog bones' type. will post pics of my beauties after work. thanks oe ad freakfingers. Added on September 29, 2009, 6:16 pmmoe, oh i forgot one thing to ask. is goat milk okie to my pups at 5 weeks of age? just feed them plain right? thanks. This post has been edited by mikehwy: Sep 29 2009, 06:16 PM |
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Sep 29 2009, 10:18 PM
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At 5 weeks of age they are not fully weaned yet. All they can take right now is milk made for dogs, not those dutch lady milk. It will cost a lot.
Hey moe, make for me one crate lah. Hahaha.. |
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@mike
anyone can say their dog s champion line but is that fer real??? only god knows... when i bought mine, i was also told some similar bs back in the days. but i guess it's not worth informing what i can't prove. those are really my pitbulls.. if u go back on the pages u'll see more of my dog pics.. giving glucose for 5 weeks old pup? i dun know bout that.. i give my pups the special puppy milk that cost like 30 bucks for a lil ass can... but like freakfingers said, at 5 weeks they're aren't properly weaned yet.. i u dun take care of them properly they may face health issues. especially during this early tender stage...my puppuis have started eating soaked puppy kibbles but i feed them that in a controled manner so they still have to drink mommy's milk n the puppy milk i feed.. the key here is, mother's milk is foremost.. rest are just supplementary.. just extra for them bulk easier.. @freakfingers make a crate for u uh? dun la put me in such a predicament... i can promise u, it's not an easy task, if u dun have the equipments and skills.. |
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Sep 29 2009, 11:58 PM
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Haha, just kidding about the crate thing. I've one for future use. Haven't put to test yet. The weight I am gonna use is just a tyre. Haha. Hey how much is the harness? I am interested to get one as well.
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i ordered my harness from this website:
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Dearest moe and freakfingers,
i need your advice. my 5 week old pups is now being fed with pro plan biscuits soaked with everyday (pup) milk. i am really really afrain that this is NOT the right diet. please advice what i need to do. many many thanks...... |
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 30 2009, 02:53 PM) Dearest moe and freakfingers, lots of breeder did that, cause when the pup is young, they dont have a strong teeth to bite the,. therefore, they soke it with milk..i need your advice. my 5 week old pups is now being fed with pro plan biscuits soaked with everyday (pup) milk. i am really really afrain that this is NOT the right diet. please advice what i need to do. many many thanks...... but ur pup 5 weeks old, should be ok to eat without soaking it.. but put a lil water on it so it would be too dry.. |
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QUOTE(gidlcin @ Sep 30 2009, 05:46 PM) lots of breeder did that, cause when the pup is young, they dont have a strong teeth to bite the,. therefore, they soke it with milk.. gidlcin,but ur pup 5 weeks old, should be ok to eat without soaking it.. but put a lil water on it so it would be too dry.. thanks for your advice. will take note. cheers. |
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Thanks moe.
Mike, have you got my PM? Okay here's a general guide. First off, about their diet, we really can't help much but to advice you to get milk made for puppies. Should be sold in almost any pet store. Next, ask your vet about whole diet plan, vaccination and deworming. Make sure you dewormed them. I suspect the little guys are gonna WHINE a lot. Luckily you got two. Now, you really need to let them explore and find their territory. How many hours you are NOT there for them? You must always be there for them or someone else has to take over your place. Preferably they need to go potty every 2 hours and immediately after each meal. Make sure, when you're not training or playing with them, put them in the same place they are comfortable with, like their crates. When you're potty training them, always be there with them. I am sure they sleep a lot at this age. Play less with them since they are really young right now and needs their den to feel safe. Just make sure to be there for them and talk to your vet. Things should be fine. Update us with your pups. |
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Oct 1 2009, 10:48 AM
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freakfingers,
thanks. i did get your pm and i did reply you immediately asking for further advices, esp on the diet and food types for the pups. yes, we have people playing with them regularly. we feed them 4 times a day, with pro plan puppy biscuits soaked with slight "everyday milk' for puppy. i will show pics of the place to rest and sleep. safe and ver secured. we try to stop the urge to play too often with them for too long a session because this could make them very tired. but they really bite and pull my trousers and sarong man!!! very strong while pulling....hahaha. freakfingers, really appreciate for your 'advices' via pm. i will always bear in mind. i am still seeking vet's opiinion on diets and exercises. she told me to deworm and do the vacination by the age of 2 months. please advice for food when you have toher ideas. |
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Actually it's bad to feed them everyday milk. It lacks nutrients needed for them at this age. And might upset their stomach cause they can't digest properly. Get puppy milk supplement. Other than that, they should be fine. Maybe add some yogurt into the mix for some immunity. Yogurt is good but not too much. Take good care of them. No problem haha. It's why we have a thread for APBT.
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Oct 1 2009, 11:02 PM) Actually it's bad to feed them everyday milk. It lacks nutrients needed for them at this age. And might upset their stomach cause they can't digest properly. Get puppy milk supplement. Other than that, they should be fine. Maybe add some yogurt into the mix for some immunity. Yogurt is good but not too much. Take good care of them. No problem haha. It's why we have a thread for APBT. freakfingers,thanks man. appreciate for all the words. |
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Get High Protein Base Food.
Best milk for them is Goat's milk. But make sure you give them the sterilized one. This post has been edited by american bully: Oct 3 2009, 02:29 PM |
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QUOTE(american bully @ Oct 3 2009, 02:29 PM) Get High Protein Base Food. thanks American Bully. I love your pups ! they are so cute and been running everywhere.Best milk for them is Goat's milk. But make sure you give them the sterilized one. |
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Oct 3 2009, 03:26 PM) thanks American Bully. I love your pups ! they are so cute and been running everywhere. Yea they need adequate amount of exercise,put them with their parents to toss them around, that's how they become strong in the future. make sure you are there to supervise them. =) |
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Oct 3 2009, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(american bully @ Oct 3 2009, 05:50 PM) Yea they need adequate amount of exercise, haha, i am addicted to your pics and videos. so cute in running around !!!put them with their parents to toss them around, that's how they become strong in the future. make sure you are there to supervise them. =) thanks man. |
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Oct 5 2009, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Oct 3 2009, 07:54 PM) haha, i am addicted to your pics and videos. so cute in running around !!! no problem. glad that you like them.thanks man. |
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Oct 8 2009, 02:51 PM
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more pics... these guys are monstars now.. soon gonna start running exercise!!!
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Wow, great pics.
This brown guy is one great looking bugger. |
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superb..Moe i really appreciate ur effort for posting the pics...im having sleepless night thinking of hws my pup look like now..damn,,he is really handsome.
.i guess im lucky...he is really handsome..cant wait to get hold of him..Moe he looks slightly like romeo but the markings are a diff..still i love this guy..all of the pups are looking tough and healthy...damn,wish i cud see and play with them..Freakfingers: wich is urs bro? |
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This is my girl. Look at her puppy tumy. Ohhh she needs some belly rub. Haha sara, your boy is definitely buff. Look at him, enjoying getting all the attention. |
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continuation
          wenchiang, this puppy above is the one i was tellin u about.. show it to ur fren la.. |
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Ahh, ic. Thanks, will show him.
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Moe,
OMG, they look so strong with the big feet and claws. what is the age? what they eat? wow .... really great pics to look at !!! wonderful .... |
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wow...moe u puppy very tough and good looking
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Oct 9 2009, 09:39 AM
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Thanks guys... they are indeed very healthy and active... they'll be 6 weeks old coming sunday early morning. they're consuming ekanuba kibbles soaked with warm water, mother's milk, goat's milk, special puppy milk..
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moe,
whats that 'ekanuba kibbles', are these 'dog biscuits' in kacang putih types? lol mine is 7 weeks, but they look 'smaller' than yous wor? let me try to put some pics here tonigt and we see see ya? also, i am feeding about 6oz of 'Pro Plan for puppies per pup. is it ok or too little? thank you. This post has been edited by mikehwy: Oct 9 2009, 10:57 AM |
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kibbles means dog biscuit.. ekanuba is the brand..
you have been wanting to post ur pups pic for a while now mike... what has been holdin u back.. as busy enginner as i am, still find the time to post some pics to share.. Added on October 9, 2009, 5:14 pmsomethin to ponder with: Owning A Dog Is Training For Owning A Woman September 23, 2009 by roissy I was sitting on a bench in a compact, refurbished dog park in Dupont Circle that had been covered in a fake grass like Astroturf — call it Turdturf — upon which 15 or 20 dogs were frolicking and licking each others’ balls while their owners talked amongst themselves and tried to avoid stepping on the smaller dogs. After spending some time wondering where the dog piss drains in the fake grass, I poked my companion. “Check out that guy over there. The guy with the boxer. His dog is totally owning him.†In the middle of the park a khaki-wearing herb was being ritually humiliated by his burly boxer. The dog ignored him, disobeyed him, and generally made a nuisance of itself careening into other dogs and people and sniffing a multitude of crotches with tremendous gusto. The herb feebly tried to corral his dog, begging and pleading with it to behave, and the dog… well, I’m almost positive the dog laughed at him, if dogs can do such a thing. The dog had a look that said “Yeah, this tool gives me free food. What a chump!†It was a demonstration of pure mockery, dog owning owner. The whole scene reaffirmed a belief I have that properly owning a dog is excellent training for properly owning a woman. The behavior of dogs and women is eerily similar, and their relation to man testifies to that. Like dogs, women need to be led. They *want* to be led. In fact, though they will never admit it, women want to be owned by their men. (I loved that he was so powerful I was nothing. – O on her lover) Like dogs, women will walk all over you if you let them. Like dogs, women will test you for your alpha status the moment you show weakness. There’s nothing dogs and women loathe more than being adrift in a non-hierarchical relationship. They both need to slip comfortably behind you in an established pecking order. It is there they find deep, true happiness and contentment. Like dogs, women need to be trained. Shit tests are essentially a woman telling you “Please train me to respect you.†Oblige her. Like dogs, women respond best to strong verbal and nonverbal commands. If you stare down a dog, it will always turn away first, if it recognizes your authority. Women will do the same. Like dogs, women will eventually take to the leash, metaphorical or literal. Like dogs, women want to be told to roll over. Like dogs, women will hump anything if you allow them. Dog training is alpha training; keeping a dog in line and assuming the role of pack leader will redound to other areas of your life. The skills and mindset required to rule the dog pack are not much different than the game required to rule a woman. You will soon learn what it means to have a commanding presence when you are the owner of a naturally unruly dog. I have no doubt that the herb with the disobedient boxer is a doormat in his relationship, if he is in one. I’m sure that, like his boxer shits on the carpet, his girlfriend shits on his soul. If you are a beta, my advice is to save the $5,000 you would spend on a seduction workshop and instead pick up a dog at your local shelter. Since you will not be sexually attracted to the dog, you will find it very easy to work on your alpha leadership skills with it. Then what you learn with the dog will carry over into your dealings with women. PS: Has the Afghan hound always been the dog of choice of the upper class? I can see why. The dog looks snobby, and it never sniffs the ground. Afghans keep their heads up when walking. It might as well be called the Alpha hound. This post has been edited by moe81: Oct 9 2009, 05:14 PM |
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moe,
trying to post only le. busy with work, i guess mine is more complex than your la, me in the financial field. lol. hope i can learn from your thread up here. |
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Lol @ moe, that is a good read. Hahaha...
Here's a day out with Kotzen. All those hand walking everyday is coming out real good. Crap camera phone though.         Went to cousin's place and played with their 4 kids. Kotzen was so cool with them. Pardon those studs, I just had to get a leather collar. This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Oct 9 2009, 07:51 PM |
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my puppies!!! been trying to take shots but they were running around and i got tired .... lol.
freakfingers, what breed is your kotzen? he looks so strong, healthy and 'guppy' at the mulut. nice one you have there!!! This post has been edited by mikehwy: Oct 9 2009, 10:22 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Wow so cute. They are adorable. The fawn one especially, nice markings.
Do you have the parent's pictures? Kotzen's an american pit bull terrier lah. I reckon he's a mixed with american stafforshire terrier cause of his size or he's just from a different line altogether. But wouldn't be too sure without papers, I kind off adopted him from the old breeder anyway. So, I don't care what he is. Just giving the kid what he needs. Any dog would look good with proper exercise. Don't worry about it, your pups gonna be filled out and look nice. They've got huge paws. |
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moe,
Pups are all looking good. From pics, my fav male is #4 ( tan&white marking) and fav female is #3 ( eyepatch). Looks like the ones with better markings are always booked first, there being nothing much else to separate them at this early age. Would love to see them but it's unwise knowing that I cannot walk away empty handed. Just managed to find a new home for one young dog after 3 long months of fostering. He was a bundle of energetic trouble. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not sure about you but even after over 20 years of owning dogs, have never owned a woman. Married to one, yes, owning one, never. Not for an instant. Owning implies a master/servant-slave relationship or something similar. Are you sure that guy 'roissy' who penned the article is still alive and in one piece? Used a nickname to remain anonymous but if any woman in his life or some feminist organization found out what he wrote, even if in jest, they will put a bounty on his head no matter how 'alpha' he is. Male chauvinism in this day and age can be downright dangerous to one's health. This post has been edited by clearfish: Oct 10 2009, 02:50 PM |
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^ Haha, I think that article meant as a joke more than dissing women. Thanks for fostering the dog btw. Good heart.
Well, just got my new kong toy yesterday. Kotzen loved the kong toy.  Goofy and spoilt.   "Hey, where's my kong toy? Im gonna keel you."  This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Oct 11 2009, 05:59 PM |
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wenchiang:
nice Kong toy... how does it work? just throw around? kotzen lookin sweet with his rednose.. nice pics.. thanks for the updates. mike: nice pics mike.. i love the brindle fella.. but the fawn guy has a mean head.. nice nice.. here are some update pics.. taken with my camera phone.. dun mind the quality..     this is their playground.. i just tossed all the stuff that i can find around my factory.. just made sure that the toys are safe to play with. removed all the rubber toys coz hard to wash.. this shud be good i guess... Added on October 13, 2009, 1:18 pm This post has been edited by moe81: Oct 13 2009, 01:18 PM |
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Haha, just stuff food into the kong and Kotzen plays with it for hours.
Your dogs look tired. How much do you exercise them everyday? Thanks for the dam's pic btw. She looks better already. Love her ears. |
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My pups' foods .....
hope i am not giving too much good food and goat's milk : - - fresh 25 ml goat's milk for 2 feeding, each feeding is for both puppies + Neu Zea goat milk powder - 1 teaspoon of goat milk powder per feeding (4 feedings per day) - B complex (one injection into the mouth per day, that white bottle) - Orcalmin for calcium (also once perday. the green bottle) most are from advices from my vet, but i give extra fresh goat's milk only. any comment from my friends .... ? thanks to all ... This post has been edited by mikehwy: Oct 19 2009, 10:07 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Hey mike, how old are your pups already? Well if they are already 7 weeks, too much dairy product is actually bad for their stomachs.
Also, there are plenty of Vitamin D in most goat's milk supplement and it will enhance the absorption of calcium. And there's no dire need for any form of calcium supplement. These add up will cause skeletal abnormalities such as Hip Dysplasia. The calcium content in ProPlan Lamb and Rice should be sufficient at 1.0%. Other than that, good job. You can never give too much of Vitamin B. They're good supplements. Good luck with your puppies. |
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Oct 19 2009, 10:17 PM) Hey mike, how old are your pups already? Well if they are already 7 weeks, too much dairy product is actually bad for their stomachs. Freakfingers,they are 7 weeks now. the vet recommended these to me, and i personally guess that they are also too much for the pups. i soak the pro plan with the pup's milk powder. is it ok at the moment ?? Also, there are plenty of Vitamin D in most goat's milk supplement and it will enhance the absorption of calcium. And there's no dire need for any form of calcium supplement. These add up will cause skeletal abnormalities such as Hip Dysplasia. the vet suggested the 2 forms of 'drink' for me to use a syringe to feed them once a day. one is a B complex and another is the oracalmin (i guess it is oral calcium vitamin?). The calcium content in ProPlan Lamb and Rice should be sufficient at 1.0%. true, the seller of the foods is my friend who owns a large pet-food shop in town and he says it is usually enough for ProPlan as the basic dietary food and only little supplement shd be enough .... Other than that, good job. You can never give too much of Vitamin B. They're good supplements. Good luck with your puppies. i think there is no Vitamin B in the diet, or is there? lol, not sure le. thanks for your advices. by the way, i am not too clear about your words. so, which food supplement shd i take off or reduce???? (1) fresh goat's milk (only 2 bottles per week), (2) the milk-powdered goat's milk (as suggested by the vet)? i am feeding them with Pro Plan soaked in the 'normal' milk powder which is quite pricy (Neu Zea milk powder for puppies, tha large can in the left of the picture) ... I sincerely hope that you can Re Arrange (recommend the mix) the above diet (in thepicture) for my pups. i want them to grow up as strong as your brownie !!! thanks. This post has been edited by mikehwy: Oct 20 2009, 12:21 AM |
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Haha. Chill. I am just giving a general advice. Follow what your vet says. He should know better. But you should lose the calcium supplement.
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freakfingers,
thanks for your advice. will take away the calcium. wow, my pups are running so fast, and they stop biting my clothes and my thighs after exactly 2 months of age. i think they are growing up a little. haha. i realise that APB is a strong breed. much stronger than my previous 'normal' dog. they bite and pull really well. thanks. |
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Apbts are infact a very strong breed... R u keeping 2 males? if u are never tolerate any dominence behavior towards you.. in approximately a month or two, when the testosterone is kickin in, they will definately try to challenge u. never tolerate. no growling, no showing teeth. correct it immediately. put them in their place.. never let them think they can do whaever they want. this will reinforce their dominence(which is a NO NO). if they're not doin somethin u want them to do, never let them get away with it. make them do it. soon they'll learn, that when u tell them somethin, u'll make em do it even if they dun want to.
if both r infact males, be prepared for dominence fight and puncture holes if u dun play ur part properly. small things like food, toy, bone, or even ur attention can trigger the fight. be able sense the tension when a fight about to go off and stop it even before it starts.. a strong 'NO' can distract their mind of the fighting mode. but if the fight has started, i can assure u it's not easy to pull 2 adult pits apart. it's like an adrenaline frenzy even hitting with stick or kickin them won't stop the fight. it takes two brave adult person to hold the dogs by collar chain and pull the apart to get them off the 'mode'. afterall, they were bred to fight till death. and they will if u dun stop them.. so, be able to recognise the stronger character and establish a proper pecking order. very important for a group of dogs livin in a pack, especially pits. u must never fail to do so coz u are the alpha male here.. and everrybody in ur family must be higher in the hierarchy than the dogs. this lets the dogs know who the boss is. even when a proper pecking order is established, sometimes these fight among pits are inevitable. it's funny sometimes, how they fight like worse enemies and after fight is separated, they'll behave like nothin happened between them. roam together and run around guarding together. well.. just shoot if u need any more advice.. |
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Oh yea, definitely an important issue for 2 pits in a house.
I always come across miserable owners having loss one of their pits in a fight when left alone. Never leave ur dogs alone UNSEPARATED when they are older. For now, they are probably in innocent puppy stage, even so, their play can go out of hand, so be prepared. Always feed them separately. It's important especially with 2 males around. Get their toys separately as well. Never succumb to their "I am so cute will you pet me?" look. They will probably think you're the lower one in the hierarchy. So yeah, everything moe's said. Hey moe, I'll be coming up to your place next saturday. 31 Oct. |
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Oct 23 2009, 08:27 PM) Hey moe, I'll be coming up to your place next saturday. 31 Oct. hi bro..so ur collecting the pup i guess..hmm..i duno wen i will be able to collect mine..need to ear crop sumore..worried i cant make it in time... |
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Oct 23 2009, 10:22 AM) Apbts are infact a very strong breed... R u keeping 2 males? if u are never tolerate any dominence behavior towards you.. in approximately a month or two, when the testosterone is kickin in, they will definately try to challenge u. never tolerate. no growling, no showing teeth. correct it immediately. put them in their place.. never let them think they can do whaever they want. this will reinforce their dominence(which is a NO NO). if they're not doin somethin u want them to do, never let them get away with it. make them do it. soon they'll learn, that when u tell them somethin, u'll make em do it even if they dun want to. Eeee, did not realise to keep 2 male pups can be risky. you really mean that, when they grow ujp, i need to chain them separately whenever i go out? sigh ... maybe got to give one to y sister then ... ?? i wont wor??? so true so true!!! They are dominant enough to dictate the activities. i had to shout but i somehow pity them and soften my voice, sigh. they WIN. if both r infact males, be prepared for dominence fight and puncture holes if u dun play ur part properly. small things like food, toy, bone, or even ur attention can trigger the fight. be able sense the tension when a fight about to go off and stop it even before it starts.. a strong 'NO' can distract their mind of the fighting mode. true true!!! they just spark off a fight when playing with toys or in my garden. and in minutes, as you have said, it seems nothing has happened!!! strange wei??? but yes, whenever i sense a fight, i will stop them. luckily one of them, the brownish one, is afraid of my little rod (newspapers wrapped as a rod)..... but if the fight has started, i can assure u it's not easy to pull 2 adult pits apart. it's like an adrenaline frenzy even hitting with stick or kickin them won't stop the fight. it takes two brave adult person to hold the dogs by collar chain and pull the apart to get them off the 'mode'. afterall, they were bred to fight till death. and they will if u dun stop them.. True true!!! i have seen some U Tube videos and the owners could not stop nor split the fight. fight till death? i do believe it but never thought of such a terrible thing would happen. OK OK OK, i got your message. phew .... luckily you appear and warn me about the fights ... phewwww so, be able to recognise the stronger character and establish a proper pecking order. very important for a group of dogs livin in a pack, especially pits. u must never fail to do so coz u are the alpha male here.. and everrybody in ur family must be higher in the hierarchy than the dogs. this lets the dogs know who the boss is. OKOK, i will become the boss. but heart got to be strong and not to give in. i must try pal..... even when a proper pecking order is established, sometimes these fight among pits are inevitable. it's funny sometimes, how they fight like worse enemies and after fight is separated, they'll behave like nothin happened between them. roam together and run around guarding together. well.. they really start to fight now, but only for a very little while, say, for 20 seconds. but i do stop them from fighting. just shoot if u need any more advice.. QUESTION > anyhmore tips to keep 2 male pups now? i ahve a garden. or build a separate cage for each when they grow up, or chain them separately at night? i cannot keep watch on them all night long ... ?? THANKS |
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Crate train them. When you're away, just put them in their den. Don't chain them it's not necessary.
They shouldn't be biting and shaking at this age. That's abnormal. If you meant they fought in a puppy sense, then that's alright. QUOTE(sblitzzsara @ Oct 23 2009, 09:59 PM) hi bro..so ur collecting the pup i guess..hmm..i duno wen i will be able to collect mine..need to ear crop sumore..worried i cant make it in time... Yeah, how much will it cost you to crop?Added on October 24, 2009, 10:40 pmMike, crating is one of the fundamentals in having a house dog. http://www.pbrc.net/rotate.html This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Oct 24 2009, 10:40 PM |
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freakfingers and pals,
just checked. ear crop is RM200 per pup. wow. the vet said after the 2nd vaccination can crop liao. tail crop? do i need to do it for my pips too or 'leave the tails alone'? vet said month 2 or month 3 also ok to crop ... is it correct? thanks for your tips on crating ... now studying them out .... cheers and good sunday to all. |
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Oct 27 2009, 04:36 PM
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mike:
pls do some research bout ur dogs throughly and do not wait for the answers in this thread to be ur foremost information bout pits.. get a book for APBT or such.. dun rely on ur neighbour or ur taman mates to give u answers for ur questions.. tail dockin for pits are not allowed... it's against the breed standard... read on breed standard for apbts. p.s. have u realised i've have stayed reserved in answering ur questions and rest of the pit sifu here besides freakfingers never really answered any of ur questions.. coz ppl like to help ppl who takes initiative.. not wait to be spoonfed. |
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Oct 27 2009, 06:18 PM
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moe,
i do read alot as this is my occupation. yes, i do read alot about pit bulls. but there are times when i was unsure of the differences (if any) in needs for the different breed as i saw on you tube. being an animal and nature lover, i have to affirm myself that i am treating them correctly and fairly. this too applies to my garden plants, discuss and flower horn that i have very keen interest at. but then again, i have limited times ( this is NOT an excuse) to study them, and the key point is that i do not really understnad some literature that i went through. serious, many of them are too details and hence i came here to seek friendly advices. besides, this is a fun (an highly addictive) palce to meet and chat over our interest. i always share my knowledge (if i can put it this way) with any pals that i meet. for example, i am sharng and learning to 'break' firnware and software for winmo phones ... still, i feel that knowledge is so so limited. its like a research, i thought i knew alot, but later through the studiesi feel that i am knowing lesser and lesser .... strange right? this is knowledge acquisition .... hope i am correct this time. oh, moe many thanks for your advice for the tail-crop. my vet told me the pups can do the cropping by month 2 or 3 ... thank god i read your words here .... emm, i will not do it then. cheers. hope to continue to hear from you and other friends here. cheers. |
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Oct 28 2009, 02:58 PM
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cropping ears for pits can be done at 9 weeks of age.. meaning, at the completion of 8th week vaccinate the pup wait 7 days and then crop the ears...
but, u can push it up to 12 weeks... but some vets will still crop the pups ear after 12 weeks but the risk is higher coz the capilaries on the ear cud have matured and there's a risk of blood lose. safe period is 9-12 weeks of age.. plan ur ear croppin well.. u'll need keep ur dog's protective collar on for atleast 5 days.. by 7th days after ear croppin u shud be able to remove the stiches. |
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Oct 30 2009, 12:16 PM
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Hello all,
so nice to be back home. been in manila for some underwater infrastructure work ... moe, thanks for your advices. will go thru them tonight ..... cheers ....TQ |
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Nov 1 2009, 12:38 AM
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Hey there, so I picked my pup today. Moe is a very friendly guy. And his dogs were great. Very well balanced and in control. So, the journey home had her wound up. She vomited twice - once on me and once in her bucket.
Oh ya, and Kotzen isn't here. Too bad. My uncle "borrow" him for a while. Here's her, Juno, and my friend's pit bull mix, Basil.  She has to sleep early cos she has vet appointment tomorrow. Hehe.    And puppy parts lol.  Butterfly nose.    I really have a thing for puppy paws, so cute and squishy. Started socialising her a lot now. She's really fearful of every household objects. But I am taking things easy for her for now. Here's my update. Really wanna know how her littermates are doing in their new homes later. |
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Nov 3 2009, 10:59 AM
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Hi there freakfingers,
thanks for the links to pitbull crating. i last went to pet shops trying to make orders for 2 crates. but i was not too sure of the size. especially the optimum height (?) for each crate. what height would you suggest keeping in mind that they are getting taller each week!!! hahaha .... waiting for your valuable opinion. thanks thanks. mike. |
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Nov 4 2009, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Oct 30 2009, 12:16 PM) Hello all, Some of my friends crop their pup's ear @ 2 months old. (Vet has no problem with it though)so nice to be back home. been in manila for some underwater infrastructure work ... moe, thanks for your advices. will go thru them tonight ..... cheers ....TQ But price varies depending on location/vet. Skills varies depending on the vet. I've seen some pits with ugly crop. (one side of the ear is longer than another side) In the states or overseas, there are various types of ear cropping (SHAPES i meant). You got the bell cropping style and etc. a suitable ear cropping will make your pit looks Ps : I'm not promoting animal cruelty! |
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Nov 4 2009, 12:20 PM
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Hey mike, it's really up to you. I prefer a crate that he can't move around a lot. Just perfect for him to stand, sit, sleep and turn around. I got one around 2 1/2' (feet) I think. Since she's still a puppy I block off the extra space with boxes.
Too big a crate defeats the purpose of crate training. Cause if you plan on crating them for too long, they might soil the extra spaces. So, it reverses the process of housebreaking. Next, you would want a solid stainless steel crate if you have the money. If possible, custom a kennel for yourself. It's much stronger. I think my friend custom made one about RM450 about 3'. |
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Nov 4 2009, 06:01 PM
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right on, u've nailed it freakfingers... good defination for crate training.. Kudos.
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Nov 5 2009, 12:36 AM
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Hey moe, Juno isn't afraid of things anymore. Haha. She still needs desensitizing with the vacuum cleaner. She sleeps in her crate at nights and runs the house in the morning.
Oh ya, last time, how did you pump up Romeo when he was young? |
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Nov 5 2009, 11:40 AM
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romeo has always been lean.. he appearred a lil bulkier when he was a pup, but later as he grew he leaned out. maybe coz he has been excercising alot since 3 months of age. only lately he has been puttin on some pounds. but he's still a lean. altho smaller, rasco is bulkier.. current weight, rasco=24, champa=23, romeo=26. when champa has fully recovered from her pregnancy, all three of them gonna go into a serious weight gaining regimen.. and alot of exercise too..
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Nov 7 2009, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Nov 4 2009, 12:20 PM) Hey mike, it's really up to you. I prefer a crate that he can't move around a lot. Just perfect for him to stand, sit, sleep and turn around. I got one around 2 1/2' (feet) I think. Since she's still a puppy I block off the extra space with boxes. good morning freakfingers,Too big a crate defeats the purpose of crate training. Cause if you plan on crating them for too long, they might soil the extra spaces. So, it reverses the process of housebreaking. Next, you would want a solid stainless steel crate if you have the money. If possible, custom a kennel for yourself. It's much stronger. I think my friend custom made one about RM450 about 3'. i went to 2 vets and 2 pet shops asking for the crates. getting conflicting opinions from them. a vet suggested minimum 4 feet (width) with 4 to 5 feet (height). but i personally think that its too too large for mine when they grow up in 1 to 2 months. what size do you suggest for an adult? went for 2nd vaccination and deworm today. each pup now weights 7.45kg. really strong indeed. happy saturday to you pal. |
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Nov 10 2009, 12:46 AM
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hi guys..hmm seems like pitbull fever is all over malaysia now..i brought my pup for a vet check last saturday..the doc said that mine was the 3rd pitbull pup that she is treating that week..she was asking y now ppl looking for these breed...lol..btw plz make sure ur pups are dewormed.. deworm ur pup a week before every vaccination....i think i will be cropping Luva's ears next month...Btw my pit gained a kilo in a week time..surprising..the diet is,morning 1cup of blackwood puppy biscuits,late evening 500grams of minced raw/half cooked meat..(mixed raw meat)..and he loves to eat raw meat..(BARF)..less smelly poo and no smelly breath..
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Nov 10 2009, 09:39 AM
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for now, u can even include some tender bones such as chicken neck and such.. trust me ur pup will love it...
later on, u can even give more solid bones.. |
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Nov 10 2009, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Nov 10 2009, 09:39 AM) for now, u can even include some tender bones such as chicken neck and such.. trust me ur pup will love it... my dog is not apbt but feeding on rice+ chicken neck+minced beeflater on, u can even give more solid bones.. growing fast |
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Nov 13 2009, 10:55 PM
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I don't think it's a good idea to mix kibble and raw, sara. And wow, 500 grams per meal, no wonder he's gaining weight. I plan to switch Juno wholly on Prey Model diet in a couple of months.
O, I guess people love the breed for one thing, they look fierce, ppl thought they're good guard dogs. Secondly, they are cheap in msia. Third, people don't realise how much more responsibility it takes to properly bring up a breed like this. Sara, share pics of Luva~ |
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Nov 19 2009, 02:28 PM
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Yo Moe bro! Great to see you here.......how are your lovely pits doing? I can see a nice looking litter of pups you got there
Sara, now into pits as well eh....hehehe. A good choice there bro! Best Regards, SPENCER. |
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Nov 21 2009, 03:36 PM
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Sheesh, thread's kinda dead lately. Updates, anyone? Basil seems to have mange, she has a few bald spots. She went to the vet yesterday, got jabbed and has to bathe with some white solution for a couple of weeks now.
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Nov 24 2009, 02:44 PM
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Spencer: Hey bro. i'm doin great.. pits are all amazing. they're doin great as well.. yup, new litter. but all sold la bro. how bout u bro? how are ur k9's heard u got a new one... some pics wud be interesting!
wenchiang: Hello bro.. how's juno? doin good? any updates? Added on November 26, 2009, 3:10 pmTwo new low quality videos of my mutts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNuhXcsO9Iw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvfvIUSkf2s This post has been edited by moe81: Nov 26 2009, 03:17 PM |
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Dec 6 2009, 01:39 PM
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hi guys..seems like the thread is dead.. all bz i guess...well i juz got my pits eers cropped yesterday...fuh..its really hard time taking of him from not tearing of the bandages..poor lil felar running around with collar on his neck..
Added on December 20, 2009, 11:49 pm[quote=freakfingers12,Nov 21 2009, 03:36 PM] bro hw is juno...hw is she growing?hope to see the pics soon..im juz waiting for Luva's ear to heal coz he havent taken bath almost 2weeks since the ear crop...damn stinky...i will take some pics and upload soon...he is becoming a scavenger now,wtaever he sees he has to taste it esp shoes...LOL...need some obedient training...but kinda smart felar and quick learner... This post has been edited by sblitzzsara: Dec 20 2009, 11:49 PM |
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Jan 7 2010, 12:20 AM
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Hi guys i am from singapore who like bull breeds like APBT, Eng Bull Terrier and staffy . just passin by to say Hi.
So are there a lot American pit owners in Malaysia?Du u guys game test ur dogs? i Hope Not cos its a pure evil to see ur petbulls destroying one another |
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Jan 7 2010, 05:57 PM
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hi pigdawz..welcome abroad and njoy the stay..this thread has been quite dull lately...post sum pics of ur pits...
btw moe81 : i juz brought my dog for some skin treatment,seems to have lots of fur drop..mange bite i guess..as of 07/01/10 Luva is 14.4kg..and is 4month 1week old..izzit ok the weight.? |
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Jan 7 2010, 07:12 PM
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i dun have any dog at the moment.
will consider if a right dog come by. btw very few ppl keep pits in singapore. i know of a singaporean who "'smuggle'' a pit from malaysia This post has been edited by pigdawz: Jan 7 2010, 07:13 PM |
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Jan 7 2010, 08:38 PM
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smuggle! lolx.. how?...y he need to smuggle in anyway..s'pore got no pits izzit or izzit banned breed there?
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Jan 7 2010, 11:00 PM
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its ban from import in singapore
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Jan 8 2010, 02:19 PM
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Finally the APBT thread is revived. Anyway, my friend has a pitbull mix up for adoption. PM me if interested.
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Jan 8 2010, 04:00 PM
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Freakfingers:
U GOT 2 PITBULLS?dun they fight? This post has been edited by pigdawz: Jan 8 2010, 04:01 PM |
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Jan 8 2010, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(pigdawz @ Jan 8 2010, 04:00 PM) Freakfingers: Well, Moe has 3 pitbulls FYI. U GOT 2 PITBULLS?dun they fight? Well, having 2 pitbulls is a harder task actually. I practice the crate and rotate method. Everything they do has to be under my supervision. |
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Jan 8 2010, 05:57 PM
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Hey, the thread is back up... Good job guys.. having two pits, is not always a problem. as long as the two pits grew up together and, are around the same age and you have corected any dominance behaviour since pup, i guess u shud be fine..
the problem arises when u want to introduce a new pit into ur pack.. on the contrary, if u're bringin home a new female pit and u already have a male pit. chances are, they may just get along fine with each other. cheers.. |
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Jan 8 2010, 08:52 PM
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ya i also heard that if dogs grow up together, chances of fighting is minimized. i just wana confirm cos the fighting capabilities of apbt should never be underestimated. my frens pit almost destroyed his neighbors german sheperd last week.chewed off the side of the sheperd lips and broke his hind leg within minutes..what a horror show......
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Jan 9 2010, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE(pigdawz @ Jan 8 2010, 08:52 PM) ya i also heard that if dogs grow up together, chances of fighting is minimized. i just wana confirm cos the fighting capabilities of apbt should never be underestimated. my frens pit almost destroyed his neighbors german sheperd last week.chewed off the side of the sheperd lips and broke his hind leg within minutes..what a horror show...... fuh...Added on January 9, 2010, 2:35 am QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Jan 8 2010, 05:04 PM) Well, Moe has 3 pitbulls FYI. bro..hw is Juno..is she doing good?mine is becoming a scavenger..every day sure got issue..gigit kasut lah,gigit kain,gigit watever thing is reachable and the most he loves to do is digging the flower pots..hope the habit wont prolong... Well, having 2 pitbulls is a harder task actually. I practice the crate and rotate method. Everything they do has to be under my supervision. This post has been edited by sblitzzsara: Jan 9 2010, 02:35 AM |
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Jan 10 2010, 08:20 PM
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Hey there, sara, hang on there. For 2 years, they aren't gonna mature, and also behaviour training is gonna help a lot. For now, puppy proof your house when you're not supervising him.
I keep Juno in the house in my room, so she doesn't do much damage so far. Just keep her occupied with her toys. When she's outside in the porch, I am always with her. So, she only does what I let her do. Hehe. Sound pretty convenient eh? Trick is supervision. |
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Jan 13 2010, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:20 PM) Hey there, sara, hang on there. For 2 years, they aren't gonna mature, and also behaviour training is gonna help a lot. For now, puppy proof your house when you're not supervising him. thx for the tips man..yup im following the puppy proof method at the moment..onli thing i cud say about this chewing habits is bcoz they are to bored i guess..from my observation of coz..he onli does this silly things whenever left alone..hopefully i can find some toys which will keep him busy..i haven't build a cage for him yet so at the moment he has the whole porch as his cage,oledi toilet train so he knows where to go...im not free lately so cudnt snap some pics of him..hopefully will be able to do it this weekend...I keep Juno in the house in my room, so she doesn't do much damage so far. Just keep her occupied with her toys. When she's outside in the porch, I am always with her. So, she only does what I let her do. Hehe. Sound pretty convenient eh? Trick is supervision. |
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Jan 14 2010, 11:52 AM
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hmm, come on guys.. post some pics of ur new family members.. let's keep this thread alive.. as soon as u guys post some pics, i'm gonna post some update pics..
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Jan 14 2010, 11:25 PM
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 Juno found her love interest. My friend has the same teddy for her cat  Lol! What is that? Mucous? Phlegm?    That's her christmas present from her sister. Juno says "dankiiu cis!" There's a bunch more pics, but lowyat has limits. So later.This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jan 14 2010, 11:29 PM |
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Jan 15 2010, 03:18 AM
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       she is 5 months old... This post has been edited by szechao: Jan 15 2010, 03:19 AM |
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Jan 15 2010, 11:03 AM
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wenchiang: Good job man.. nice pics. juno sure looks very happy.
szechao: nice pit u got there bro. good color.. u forgot to mention her name.. sara, we're waiting for u.. Added on January 15, 2010, 12:21 pm  Here are all my pits. from left: Romeo, Rasco, Champa.  Champa. She is our recent mother. mother of juno. Rasco is the dad.  Name: Romeo, Age: 1.5 years old, weight: 28 kg beast. Tagline: When there's lotsa ppl around, they call me the 'showoff'!  Name: Rasco, Age: 2 years n 4 mnts old, weight: 24 kg. Tagline: I'm the man of the house n everyone shud stand down!  Name: champa, Age: 1.5 years old, weight: 24 kg. Tagline: I'm pretty confused bout my role here. i'm just gonna try to bite anyone and everyone as long as they're intimidated!  Name: Baby, Age: 2 years old, weight: 36 kg, Breed: Rotweiler. Tagline: These guys here are all so energetic and full of shit. i'm just gonna chill and loaf about. This post has been edited by moe81: Jan 15 2010, 12:21 PM |
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Jan 15 2010, 02:17 PM
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wow moe, nice dogs u have there. which 1 is the leader?
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Jan 15 2010, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Jan 15 2010, 11:03 AM) wenchiang: Good job man.. nice pics. juno sure looks very happy. wow..moe..your dog much heavier than mine..my female dog is 23kg only..szechao: nice pit u got there bro. good color.. u forgot to mention her name.. sara, we're waiting for u.. Added on January 15, 2010, 12:21 pm Here are all my pits. from left: Romeo, Rasco, Champa. Champa. She is our recent mother. mother of juno. Rasco is the dad. Name: Romeo, Age: 1.5 years old, weight: 28 kg beast. Tagline: When there's lotsa ppl around, they call me the 'showoff'! Name: Rasco, Age: 2 years n 4 mnts old, weight: 24 kg. Tagline: I'm the man of the house n everyone shud stand down! Name: champa, Age: 1.5 years old, weight: 24 kg. Tagline: I'm pretty confused bout my role here. i'm just gonna try to bite anyone and everyone as long as they're intimidated! Name: Baby, Age: 2 years old, weight: 36 kg, Breed: Rotweiler. Tagline: These guys here are all so energetic and full of shit. i'm just gonna chill and loaf about. |
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since everyone has posted their mofos ,so i guess its time for me to introduce Luva..the scavenger...
pic. 1&2 was taken by Moe wen it was still under his care... now comes the current picture.. 
Luva is 4months 2weeks old and weighs 15.1kg now. sorry for the bad quality pics,juz a normal camera..the guy in the last pic is not me..my brother... p.s..the ear crop thing,reli doesnt suite..my advice is go 5n for vets who is familiar with ear cropping style for pit bulls..i went to the most pioneer vet in bukit mertajam,who was claimed to be the specialist in K9 cosmetic surgeries and this is wat i get..the rate is not to say cheap though RM360..they used laser knife to do the cropping..still the outcome aren't satisfactory.wat i can say is he cut it way too short. This post has been edited by sblitzzsara: Jan 16 2010, 12:28 AM |
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Jan 16 2010, 01:59 AM
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Hey moe, Rasco's and Champa's skin look better already. Now Juno has the bumps and I think they will go off in a few days.
The pics from SzeChao is actually the puppy I considered before deciding on getting Juno. Nice to see her again. LOL. Luva turn out to be damn cute. The black spots on his nose is like a mustache. XD I think he is gonna look good with the ear crop later on. Here's a bunch of Juno.        LOL She was like "whuutttt!"   I like this pic. She looked so thoughtful.  Being silly like usual. |
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Jan 18 2010, 09:30 AM
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szechao: thanks buddy. but as u claimed if ur girl is only 6 months and already weighing 23 kg, it's really phenomenal. that's a very good weight for 6 month old female pup. have u spayed her already? are u goin to? she looks really good. how's the character? temperament? alertness? females matures a lil faster than males. u can soon see her real character.
sara: luva is looking like a beast. damn nice.. but as u said, the ear cropping job u got is not one of the best. but hey, it may look like a monster as his head start to fill out.. wenchiang: thanks buddy.. as i told u, skin all completely recovered. they're all looking really good. for some undisclosed reason, i'm spaying champa today. not planning to breed her anymore. she has now started working guarding the compound already. she's a biter. juno is looking like a pretty fun pup. but she looks a lil lean. how's her apetite? but nothin to worry, she looks pretty normal she'll probably start filling out as she matures. for sara and wenchiang: do monitor ur dog's aggression. having both parents being moderately aggressive. i'm starting to wonder, how the pup is gonna turn out. if u dun want ur dog to be aggressive, do not ever encourage it. start correcting it from now. |
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Jan 18 2010, 08:06 PM
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no..not this one moe.. i mean my female pit only 23 kg..
 this one is mine female dog ,the previous one is her daugther... mine is 23 kg |
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Jan 18 2010, 08:08 PM
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Hey moe... Yeah she looks leaner than Luva. I give her prey model diet; chicken being the primary meat, bones, beef, lamb, tripe and pork every single day... She eats a lot, great appetite, she takes about 12% of her weight everyday (about 700g). Weird eh? She still looks like that. Prolly cos she's hyper active and all those walks everyday.
Oh, tell us more about Champa. She's a biter? She bit people? Are you spaying her cos she end up to be a biter? I don't mind Dog Aggression though. It's a trait in the breed anyway. But no Human Aggression. Btw, how much would it be to spay a dog that age? I am spaying Juno next month btw. @Sara: Hey, does Luva still has the zoomies? I read that zoomies go away at about 4 months young but Juno still has it everyday after dinner. Here's a few recent pics.   Tried to rotate the pics, but didn't work. lol.     This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jan 18 2010, 10:18 PM |
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Jan 19 2010, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(szechao @ Jan 18 2010, 08:06 PM) no..not this one moe.. i mean my female pit only 23 kg.. nice female. 23 kg is a good weight for a female. for a pit, female above 21 kg is good breedable size IMO. this one is mine female dog ,the previous one is her daugther... mine is 23 kg the daughter looks pretty good too.. she looks like she has good genes in her. if u have plans for her, let me know. i have romeo in mind. hey wenchiang, juno looks much much better in these latest pics. shoulder blades and chest looks much more developed.. how's kotzen doin btw? |
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Jan 20 2010, 12:11 AM
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[quote=freakfingers12,Jan 18 2010, 08:08 PM]
@Sara: Hey, does Luva still has the zoomies? I read that zoomies go away at about 4 months young but Juno still has it everyday after dinner. At times bro.He does it after every shower.Actually speaking i have already used to with its hi-energy drive.So im not sure if its wat u cal zoomies..its been his routine for becoming frenzy,esp wen we are playing with him...too excited till he doesnt know that he is injuring me..lol..i have few scars to remember..accidentally scratched on his sharp teeth..but the puppy tooth has droped 2 days back..i can c new teeth coming up.. moe81 : Luva's aggresion is ok..still a puppy tough.couldnt judge much at these stage..but lately he starting to bark on every other dog wich barks at him..and tries to chase but not too brave, if the other dog jumps or chase he sure will stepback and tries to run.of coz the dogs are in fenced property.. |
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Jan 20 2010, 06:15 PM
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hello everyone, i juz found this thread regarding APBT .. well, i hv one pit bull pup juz 2 + month old and the color is juz like tiger ..
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Jan 20 2010, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(metalslayer @ Jan 20 2010, 06:15 PM) hello everyone, i juz found this thread regarding APBT .. well, i hv one pit bull pup juz 2 + month old and the color is juz like tiger .. so u have a brindle pit pup uh? that's great.. welcome aboard. pls do share some pics.. |
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Jan 20 2010, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(metalslayer @ Jan 20 2010, 06:15 PM) hello everyone, i juz found this thread regarding APBT .. well, i hv one pit bull pup juz 2 + month old and the color is juz like tiger .. hi there..welcome abroad man..hope you enjoy the stay..and we hope u can share ur knowledge on APBT as well...and the must do is,u need to upload the pics of ur dog..cheers.. |
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Jan 21 2010, 12:56 AM
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Yay, another APBT owner. Welcome aboard!
Haha, speaking of zoomies, Juno just ran from room to room for 5 minutes. No one cares to look anymore. We're used to it already. Hey sara, I had scars too. Played with Juno and accidentally jammed my hands into her mouth. Haha. This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jan 21 2010, 12:58 AM |
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Jan 21 2010, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Jan 21 2010, 12:56 AM) Yay, another APBT owner. Welcome aboard! hahaha..lol..has the puppy tooth fall of yet?Haha, speaking of zoomies, Juno just ran from room to room for 5 minutes. No one cares to look anymore. We're used to it already. Hey sara, I had scars too. Played with Juno and accidentally jammed my hands into her mouth. Haha. btw bro does Juno showing any skin problems..(gatal-gatal,rashes,red spots under belly,)..Luva seems to garu-garu all the time..i spent quite alot for his medication but i dun c much progress..my house compound is cemented and we wash it daily so that its clean for the dog and Luva even gets showered every 2or 3days once with 2types of shampoo..1with sulfur for the coat another for pest control..have injected once for its skin,not sure of the medicine,n then as advised by Moe i bought ivermectin and gave it orally..i dunno wats wrong,the red dots is so obvious and he seems to be itchy all the time... Moe: Im getting the ivermectin from my vet itself,she mix and dispense it in a syringe for me according to Luva's weight..Price is reasonable..RM15 per shot...i gave him orally..btw do you still remember the reddish spots on Rasco wen he was still a pup..and u even stated that it could be some insect bite, Luva is having the same symptoms..i hope u can share the remedy..thks brother... |
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Jan 21 2010, 11:57 PM
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Hey sara, Juno's puppy tooth just feel off just now. Lol. Two of her teeth at the bottom front fell off. Her blood is everywhere on my pillow and mattress.
Yup I have roughly the same thing going on with Juno. She had bumps around her hind legs and scalps here and there from where the ticks were before but no red spots I hope. Doc said it's normal, sometimes they have reaction even from lying around on the grass. Juno's place is tiled up and I clean the place everyday. She pees and poos in another side of the balcony, so it's clean. I don't know why she has skin reactions. I tried some home remedies, some garlic, olive oil and brewed yeast supplements for her. The ticks went off and her skin is slowly getting better. I should try ivermectin too. Maybe you shouldn't bathe him too often. I bathe Juno once in two weeks. Is Luva shedding a lot now? |
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Jan 22 2010, 10:11 AM
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Ok, here's what ya'll need to know. sadly, it maybe maige. this is one of the reason y i spayed champa. maige is an immunologically handicaped situation, whereby the immune system of the dog is incapable of keeping the mites number in check. NOTE: every dog has mites. it's the duty of the immune system to keep the mite count in check. when the immune system fails, mite explosion happens(the number of mite just explodes and the dog will have mainge).
it's not a good idea to shower ur dog very often, i only do once a month. in indoor cases, try to keep it once a fort night. showering removes the protective oil layer in ur dog's skin. let me put this straight to ya'll most vets know how to diagnose mainge but not treat them. symptom of mite explosion and mainge: 1) a day after shower, if u see bumps on ur dog's skin. it's an indication. this is what has happens: u washed away the protective oil on the skin, number of mites exploded, and the immune system of the dog is counter-reacting to the mites. meaning the immune system is fighting the sudden increase of mites. this is good. the bumps will go away within few days. 2)some dog don't show the bumps. need not worry, untill u see reddish rashes. starting of on hind thighs of behind neck. now, chances are, mainge condition. precaution: 1) if u suspect ur dog has mainge, never let the vet vaccinate ur dog, suppressing futher the immune system will only worssen the condition and the mainge spreading to a stage that cannot be helped. 2) not to worry, mainge is not contagious, ur other dogs won't get it from ur infected dog. breeding a dog which has mainge condition can pass on it's handicapped disease to it's pups. treatment & remedy: these two treatments are from personnal research and effort i put in to find the best remedy to treat my dog. both i have tried, used and have been successful with. 1) borax+hydrogen peroxide(application) 2) ivermectin(injection) method 1: prepare hydrogen peroxide solution of 1% concerntrtation as required i.e. 2 litre. mix borax into it until the solution gets saturated. shower ur dog first. wipe it dry and then apply the prepared solution. soak ur dog in it and let it drip. do not wipe ur dog. leave it to dry on it's own. treat twice a week for one week. minor mainge should start healing already. a more severe condition may require a more frequent and prolonged treatment. preparation: to prepapre hydrogen peroxide to 1% conc. if u have hydrogen peroxide 6%, mix 1 part of that hydrogen peroxide with 6 parts of water. similarly if u have 50 % conc solution, mix 1 one part of the 50% hydrogen peroxide with 50 parts of water to get 1% solution. borax is in the form of salt. so, just mix some into the prepared solution and stir. if it all disolves, mix somemore and stir. mix and stir until it cant's dissolve anymore, then the solution is saturated. use slighty warm water to ease the dossolving part. now u're ready to treat ur dog with above mentioned method. method 2: u can get ivermectin from any goverment vetrinary supply with brand name ivomec or ivochip. the dosage is 0.1 ml for every 10 lbs(pounds) of ur dog. use a 3 ml syringe and a 25 G (1") needle. pull out as much as needed. i.e. if ur dog is 20 lbs, u'd need 0.2 ml. if ur dog is 25lbs, u'd need roungly 0.25 ml. U need to inject it sub-qutaneously(sub-q). orally won't work. to make it easy, pull the skin of ur dog above the neck and inject it under the skin. u'll need to repeat this treatment three times, 7 days apart. fo severe condition, both these methods can be combined for faster recovery. this is not a treatment to cure mainge. unfortunately mainge cannot be cured. it can be kept under control. it may start to show every 5 months or so. and one application of the hydrogen peroxide and borax solution will send it right back in. i've told sara this so many times, i dun't know what's stopping this from getting into his knuckle head. ivermectin orally is for preventive measure for heartworm. it won't help mainge. if u need the remedy pls let me know. NOTE: IVECMECTIN CANNOT BE USED IN COLLIE BREED. THIS CAN BE FATAL. |
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Jan 22 2010, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Jan 22 2010, 10:11 AM) i've told sara this so many times, i dun't know what's stopping this from getting into his knuckle head. ivermectin orally is for preventive measure for heartworm. it won't help mainge. if u need the remedy pls let me know. NOTE: IVECMECTIN CANNOT BE USED IN COLLIE BREED. THIS CAN BE FATAL. |
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Jan 23 2010, 03:26 PM
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Pit Bull Rottweiler-Mix Attack Leaves Boy with 400 Stitches
Dog "Never Had a Problem Before" Forsyth County, GA - In the frightening combination of a pit bull-rottweiler mix, a 4-year old boy was left with 400 stitches after the dog attacked. Witnesses said the dog left 4-year-old Logan Heard severely injured. The boy is undoubtedly lucky to be alive. Captain Frank Huggins said the dog had the boys head in it's mouth and ended up biting the boy very severely. Investigators said the boy's father was talking to his landlord, the dog's owner, when the attack happened. Both live on the property and the men said the boy wandered off just a few yards. The boy was later discovered lying next to the dog. Danny McDaniel said he had never had problem with dog before the attack. Pit bull owners know their dog has a propensity toward aggression. "Not having a problem" before a violent attack is an unacceptable excuse. Given that the boy was on the dog owner's property, and there were no witnesses to the attack, this boy's family may not have civil recourse. His medical bills -- just for the first 400 stitches and emergency treatment -- will be sizable. Down the road, when multiple facial reconstructive surgeries are required, his medical bills will be massive. The idea that this dog owner may not be liable from a civil standpoint is an accurate picture of arcane US dog laws. Anyone who can switch on a TV knows that pit bulls and rottweilers inflict severe damage when they bite. Based purely on the fact that the dog is a "pit bull-rottweiler mix" and the general knowledge known about both breeds ought to make the owner liable. Specific information regarding the severe nature of pit bull injury has been known by the Humane Society, the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and the American Veterinary Medical Association for 20 years. These organizations stay silent on the issue of regulating specific breeds or actively oppose it. These organizations also promote the idea "it's all in how you raise it," creating thousands of "Danny McDaniels" -- ill-informed dog owners that get to dodge liability because up until the point of the attack, the dog had been a good dog. "I didn't know he'd snap, I raised him good" is an inexcusable belief that continues to be cultivated by these organizations at the cost of massive human suffering. MIX BREED~~~ Rott x Pittbull Added on January 23, 2010, 3:28 pmFor Pit-Bull Lovers~~ MUST CHECK OUT THIS LINK http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/sadreality/4.php This post has been edited by angel-face: Jan 23 2010, 03:28 PM |
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Jan 24 2010, 01:08 AM
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HI guys , i hv a pit too will post it soon ...
Added on January 24, 2010, 1:45 amStorm's first arrived at our home This post has been edited by HARRYFANNY: Jan 24 2010, 01:45 AM |
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Jan 27 2010, 04:23 PM
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hey guys, just came across this awsome thread and i was wondering where to get a pit?
always thought its impossible to get it here in malaysia but if anyone knows can some info be provided to me? it would be greatly apreciated... i would really love to have one. |
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Jan 27 2010, 05:22 PM
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what kinda info would you like to be provided with. please be more specific and thorough. most information about pits are here in this thread already. do take your time and go through it. U may find some informational details that you're looking for. if at all your query isn't answered in a satisfactory manner. you can shoot your questions here. And for me and all other members sakes, please be more specific with your questions. U can't expect a member to post a whole database of hitory, origin and caresheet for one general question of yours now, would u?
Meanwhile, welcome abord. pls do share ur interest. Moe |
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Jan 27 2010, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Jan 27 2010, 05:22 PM) what kinda info would you like to be provided with. please be more specific and thorough. most information about pits are here in this thread already. do take your time and go through it. U may find some informational details that you're looking for. if at all your query isn't answered in a satisfactory manner. you can shoot your questions here. And for me and all other members sakes, please be more specific with your questions. U can't expect a member to post a whole database of hitory, origin and caresheet for one general question of yours now, would u? simple actually.. just wondering where can i get one? Meanwhile, welcome abord. pls do share ur interest. Moe |
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Jan 27 2010, 09:22 PM
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Well, if you're located in Malacca, there's a shop that specializes on breeding pitbulls but I generally discourage buying pets from petshops. You should wait until a good breeder pops up.
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Jan 27 2010, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Jan 27 2010, 09:22 PM) Well, if you're located in Malacca, there's a shop that specializes on breeding pitbulls but I generally discourage buying pets from petshops. You should wait until a good breeder pops up. ok thnx for the advise.off topic : petrucci lover eh?? hehee |
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Jan 28 2010, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE(nissangtir @ Jan 27 2010, 11:17 PM) ok thnx for the advise. Yep, Petrucci lover. Haha. Anyway, check out the adoption thread.off topic : petrucci lover eh?? hehee |
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Jan 28 2010, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Jan 28 2010, 07:39 AM) Yep, Petrucci lover. Haha. Anyway, check out the adoption thread. haha aight.. thanks man...gonna do some research bout pits' 1st to know if i can and ready to handle them or not... =) |
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Jan 31 2010, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(nissangtir @ Jan 28 2010, 08:08 AM) haha aight.. thanks man... So have you done research about pits and think you can handle them? If you can, then PM me. I've a pit mix for adoption.gonna do some research bout pits' 1st to know if i can and ready to handle them or not... =) |
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Feb 5 2010, 01:04 PM
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Hey guys. i caught some vids of my dogs playfighting... for entertainment purpose only.
Pits playfight Pits on fire! Pit and Rot playfight |
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Feb 12 2010, 06:20 PM
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Woah, damn your dogs are fast moe. Any updates on them? This thread's kinda dead already. Where's mike? I miss his brindle pup.
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Feb 15 2010, 06:33 PM
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Revive !!! revieve!!!
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Mar 12 2010, 12:11 AM
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moe81,thats a handsome dog...any idea if ur gonna breed more pits in the future?
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Mar 12 2010, 10:30 AM
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I will definately breed more in the future... this guy here(romeo) is my next potential father.. just need to find a proper b****. for now, i really can't tell when i will breed.. but there'll definately be update in here. temperament testing the b**** first and making sure the b**** is free from mainge and terminal illness will be my priority.
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Mar 16 2010, 11:34 AM
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hi guys!
this my father in law APBT This is Nick, 2 years old      This is Zamb, 3 months old    playing with a 3 years old rott (ethan)   |
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Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM
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hey lazypapa.. nice pits there.. especially Zamb. he has a very distinguished head. like those dogo. but ur 3 year old rot look pretty scrawny. i have a female 2 year old rott named baby. and she's a monster.
here are some of her pics:   note. she's not fat.. she's hell of muscular for a female rott. but she's playful as a baby. that's what i hate about her.. |
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Mar 16 2010, 05:57 PM
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wow didn't notice this thread is revived
nice to see quite some APBT owners here. |
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Mar 18 2010, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) hey lazypapa.. nice pits there.. especially Zamb. he has a very distinguished head. like those dogo. but ur 3 year old rot look pretty scrawny. i have a female 2 year old rott named baby. and she's a monster ya, i agree toonote. she's not fat.. she's hell of muscular for a female rott. but she's playful as a baby. that's what i hate about her.. his almost die in 2 time incident during his 1-2 years old get denggi then... mistaken farm chemical on plants... ethan like to play water....   This post has been edited by lazypapa: Mar 18 2010, 11:12 AM |
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Mar 27 2010, 08:04 PM
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picture time.....this is how Luva looks now...he is 6months old and weighs near to 23kg now..day by day getting stronger and more mischievous..getting tired of his adrenaline..hyperactive..and a good jumper too..already started to give some basic exercise..he loves to chew everything..his latest achievement is chewing on my dads car skirting..damn...
here he is.. 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  |
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Apr 21 2010, 04:23 PM
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hello moe81..
do you have any pitbull puppy for sell?? and where are you from?? =) |
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Jun 9 2010, 09:53 PM
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Digging out this thread. It's buried so deep...
Here's an update on Juno.   I haz seen you, hoooman!  She can go all day playing with sticks!  Sitting nice for the camera while waiting for me to throw the stick.  Showing off her muscles. She hasn't begin any training or conditioning. It's all in the genes, I guess.      This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jun 9 2010, 10:03 PM |
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Jun 9 2010, 10:05 PM
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Back home, looking good for the camera again. Her ears naturally stands.
    Wait for it...  Whut, I haz to wait??  Uh oh, I can't wait anymore. This is what she eats daily. 600gm chicken/pork/fish, egg, egg shells, clove of garlic, vitamins, 2 supplement pills daily, yogurt and butter (to enhance flavour). Offals given once a week.  Sleepyhead.   This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jun 9 2010, 10:07 PM |
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Jun 10 2010, 08:41 PM
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My 9 month-age Ah Wong and Tiger .... i scaled down the pics to low resolutions from my D40.
tiger's chest is like a rock, buldging out like a stone. his feet are like kayu dead hard, and paws are like huge buns ... hahaha .... result of my calcium feed? Added on June 10, 2010, 8:43 pmFreakfingers, i spent month to visit farms and vets. got little idea of food and APBT behviours. also learnt about mainge. now i am asking many queastions in the Pet Food section too. been travelling hard. feeling little tired, so these are some rough pics. This post has been edited by mikehwy: Jun 10 2010, 08:56 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jun 10 2010, 08:51 PM
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Nice! Though I personally feel you should change their collars and chains because the choker is kinda risky as it may strangle your dogs and the chain because they seem quite weak to me. What grade are your chains? And the last picture is quite disturbing.
Added on June 10, 2010, 8:52 pmOh yeah, how's their temperament? This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jun 10 2010, 08:52 PM |
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Jun 10 2010, 08:58 PM
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oh, i dont chain them, only just before feeding as they cant keep still. i let them running around the garden all day.
what type of chain are you recommending? Added on June 10, 2010, 9:16 pmoh, forgot to say that your pup is real cutie. still sleeping in the bedroom right? This post has been edited by mikehwy: Jun 10 2010, 09:16 PM |
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Jun 10 2010, 10:12 PM
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http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=13334 -->Should have what you need in that link.
I wouldn't recommend letting your dogs run around the garden all day unsupervised though. They may get along well, but keeping them separated would be better as APBT are prone to fighting with other dogs. Just to be on the safer side la actually, you don't want to come back seeing one of them badly injured or even dead. Juno sleeps with me sometimes these days, because I keep her in the balcony. No worries cos the balcony is like a totally different room, grilled and has a door so no worries about her jumping down from the 2nd floor. LOL, your dogs are adorable. I wanna give them a big hug! Are they friendly towards other people? Added on June 10, 2010, 11:24 pmhttp://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=7079 Sorry, this is the right link. This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jun 10 2010, 11:24 PM |
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Jun 14 2010, 12:28 PM
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@wenchiang
Juno is looking good. she has some thick ears. does it always stand like that. she's looking a lil slender. she may fill out as she matures. have u already spayed her? @mikehwy ur pits are looking great for their age. the're both males. so becareful, as wenchiang said. they may get along well now. if they're left to roam freely together or being put in the same cage, there may arise a reason to challenge. this is not good at all. truet me. u won't see it coming until it happens. better be safe than sorry. if u dun tie the dog, u really dun need a chain on it's neck. if the're controllable during walks, that u dun need a chike chain to hold them back(i see u have modified the chokes to serve as a plain neck chain), then a good collar belt wud do. if u want to put some weight on the neck for any sort of muscle developement, it's not advised to use such thing until the dog is 1.5 years old. i use a stainless steel chain link(8mm) from hardware joint with a shackle(stainless steel). see avatar pic. |
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Hey moe, good to hear from you. Yeah, her ears are usually up like that except when she's in the house. I haven't spayed her, thought of doing so when she's 5 months. But I was recommended to wait until she matures by my vet cause I had doubts after reading from a few sites.
http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html http://www.doglistener.co.uk/neutering/spa...neutering.shtml She's always been on the lean side although she eats a lot (4% of her weight daily, that is 600-700gm). She's 42lbs (19kg). Maybe I exercised her too much? Here's a few pics from today:    Today she had the usual chicken + vegetables/fruit/oatmeal broth.  And no she doesn't live there where the crate is. She lives upstairs with me. She don't use the crate anymore.       This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Jun 14 2010, 04:58 PM |
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Jun 15 2010, 04:44 PM
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Hi freakfingers,
these are my latest. they are growing well these days. temperament wise, ah wong is fierce and can chew up another dog around, while the brindle tiger is just too friendly to most people. just wonder why they are so different, haha. no, i dont pamper them. i treat them as pet animals. i love them with limits. Added on June 15, 2010, 4:49 pmmoe, yes, i understand the risk of keeping them. but its ok at the moment. i will not put on heavier chain until they are over 1 1/2 years of age, as i wish to avoid injury and cruelty. i am trying out the natural balance kibbles, with chicken necks, legs and lamp. so far so good. This post has been edited by mikehwy: Jun 15 2010, 04:49 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jul 25 2010, 02:32 PM
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Reviving this bltch outta it's doom!!!!
Mike. great pics. Ur fellas are lokking great. do keep and eye on dominence challange. when that happens, do step in and let them know that u're the dominent one and any dominence behavior from them is not allowed. if u keep that in check from young u may keep them in peace for the rest of their life. and do pay close attention to what triggers the dominence behavior or what activity. for example. feedig them together may trigger dominence behaviour coz the alpha male usually eats first and that the rest of the pack eats. tossing a toy between them may trigger dominence coz the more dominant one will try to claim the toy. if u can pick up all the small signs ur dogs are giving now and able to correct it from now, u have a great life ahead with ur dogs. because once they're more mature, their dominant action witll be much more severe.. keep a good eye. and keep reading. if possible, watch dog whisperer show. the episode u watch the better and more sensitive u'll become to dog's body language and energy. always practise dominence is not allowed at all from ur dogs. |
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Aug 8 2010, 10:49 PM
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A little of Juno.
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Aug 8 2010, 10:52 PM
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With his favourite Kong.
 Peed in your place again? Time for bath!   Bathing time... Giving the "why muz i bathz?" eyes...  Treats after bath... nomz nomz...   |
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Aug 8 2010, 10:59 PM
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Playtime! She doesn't know how to get down the stairs... yet...
 Outside     Playing tug...   She shakes a lot and her saliva flies around... lol...  |
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Aug 8 2010, 11:01 PM
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Hahahaha.. nice post.. she has a very shiny skin... good diet i presume..
maintain it and she won't have any skin issue. i can't wait for her to fill out a lil more.. if she has good appetite, mix in more kibbles. hey, her birthday is comin soon.. august 30th.. any party??? LOL |
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Aug 8 2010, 11:02 PM
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Black ring around the mouth caused by playing with the tyre... haha...
   Raw hides again!   Added on August 8, 2010, 11:05 pmYeah, she's out of her skin issues for a long time now... Hope it maintains for life. And her ears too... Hope it stands for life... Lol... Yeah, should have a little small party for her on the 30th of 31st... Hehe... Putting my cake baking skills to test then... How are your pack, moe? This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Aug 8 2010, 11:05 PM |
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Aug 8 2010, 11:10 PM
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she sits and poses for u in almost all the pics.. is she that calm and obedient? really good job..
last i heard sara's luva is a maniac..lol |
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Aug 8 2010, 11:39 PM
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Yeah, for the most part, she is that calm. It's really not hard to get her under control. I never really take the time to teach her commands but so far, she's good with sit, lie down, stay, get it, drop it and paw.
Hey any news on the rest of the littermates other than Luva? Would love to see if they have any grown up pics. |
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Aug 8 2010, 11:49 PM
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i wish i cud ask them to post some pics.. but, most are internet illiterate dog lovers.. LOL.. i'll see if i can go over and see if i can snap some pics..
usually i just make a friendly call to see how their doin. in ur case i dun have to call coz i've been getting good updates here.. my pack are doin really good. i've brought Romeo to my genting house. and bring down to the factory sometimes when i come to work.. others stay in the factory to guard at night. i've changed all my fencing to the KTM Komuter type fencing to keep the dogs in. LOL. it was a major concern. my dogs keep biting the fence and getting out to hunt other dogs.. the were caged for a while till the fence project was over. now they roam and guard proudly.. hehehe |
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Wow, that sounds good. So Romeo gets the privilege of home now. Nice.
Would love to see Juno meet up with her parents. Will plan a trip up in the future. Juno's flirtpoling yesterday midnight. Haha.   |
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Aug 20 2010, 01:20 AM
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jz dropping by... =)
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Aug 20 2010, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(ytkwong @ Aug 20 2010, 01:20 AM) jz dropping by... =) hello there.. u can share some pics with us if u dun mind.. i actually own a golden pit bull with pink tongue and pink nose... =) @wenchiang here's some pics of luva. sara mms'ed to me.. i'll do him the favour to post em in here for update.. remember, luva's a maniac..   |
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Aug 20 2010, 11:58 AM
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Hello~~~ been reading n keeping up with this thread =]
kinda found this breed is fascinating kekeke they're good guard dog? hard to teach? lol sorry for asking too many questions xD but i do love ur pics.. and moe, if u dun mind me calling u that xD can u post more pics of ur packs? hehe |
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Aug 20 2010, 12:47 PM
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Pls back thread... i have more pics of my pack in the earlier pages.. starting from page #6... trust me.. u wudn't need more pics.. there's a lot already posted..
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Aug 25 2010, 12:36 AM
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Hey moe, I was wondering, how much was your weightpulling harness? Was hoping to get Juno into some weightpulling once she reaches 2.
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Aug 25 2010, 04:30 PM
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hi freak, i'm here~
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Aug 25 2010, 04:58 PM
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Nice! Mind telling where you got her and how much she costed you? How's her temperament?
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Aug 25 2010, 05:02 PM
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HE 's a gentle boy ...only will eat n sleep...
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Aug 25 2010, 05:21 PM
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LOL sorry, I got your gender and your dog's gender wrong haha. It's good that he's gentle, that's how APBTs should be towards people.
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Aug 29 2010, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Aug 20 2010, 10:22 AM) hello there.. u can share some pics with us if u dun mind.. , @wenchiang here's some pics of luva. sara mms'ed to me.. i'll do him the favour to post em in here for update.. remember, luva's a maniac.. thx for the help Moe..appreciated.. Btw,i can see some maturity in Luva now..much much more obedient and listens to orders..need a little more training aswell. |
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Aug 31 2010, 09:39 PM
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JUNO and her LITTERMATES!!
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Sep 11 2010, 03:57 AM
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Her "imma be good gurlz" face,
  Waiting for me to get downstairs before she dashed for her favourite blanket.  "Sowee, eeks not mi" face. lol.  |
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Sep 11 2010, 03:59 AM
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Laughs it off and continues to do what she's meant to do.
    Bored?  I guess she knows its her birthday. Look at her hyena laughter... lol  |
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Sep 11 2010, 04:02 AM
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and here's the cake~!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY JUNO!
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Sep 11 2010, 04:10 AM
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Now's her premiering her first harness. (I bought her a new harness btw this one is too, poodle-y) lol
   Back home. "Feewing so sweepy. Denks mom and dadz..."   She's the best thing that's ever happened to me. Loyal, funny, cuddly, smart and friendly and everything nice is Juno. I wouldn't trade anything in the world for her. She's my friend now and forever will be. As I am writing this, she's having sweet dreams on the bed. She whines in sleep sometimes. This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Sep 11 2010, 04:13 AM |
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Sep 11 2010, 04:14 AM
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Here's some more recently, letting her get accustomed to the harness. A weight about 0.5kg was attached to the harness (a pencil box).
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Sep 11 2010, 10:03 AM
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Really nice pics and story line, enjoy viewing and reading! Thanks for sharing the photos.
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Sep 11 2010, 01:01 PM
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Wah, got birthday celebration all... so lucky la that girl... i'm grinning wide while reading ur posts.. sorry i missed ur question bout the harness.. i bought it for about 30 bucks i think..
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Sep 12 2010, 03:16 AM
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Haha thanks. My mom wanted a cake btw. So she does the dirty job and I tag along.
This thread is becoming Juno's picture thread. Anyone pls post up somemore pics or updates... Haha... Btw, moe, Juno didn't develop any kind of protectiveness towards strangers at all. Funny I thought she would at least have some traits from Rasco. Which is actually good news for me. I wanted a house dog not a watchdog anyway. The kids around my neighbourhood could come and poke leaves on Juno and she just whines and wants to lick them. Postmen could come straight up my doorstep and she just chill at the side. She rarely barks at all. This post has been edited by freakfingers12: Sep 12 2010, 03:17 AM |
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Sep 12 2010, 02:43 PM
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well, to keep her that way, always praise her when she's behaving that way. always try to bring her and introduce to the staranger that comes to ur house. let ur neighbour kids play with her more closely and intimately.. it's good for the dog..
coz, u can never tell when she will mature and protectiveness kicks in.. so, always be ready before it comes.. an unsocialized and isolated dog has a higher tendency to become a biter. a very well socialised dog will be a bit more aware of situation. i hope u get what i mean. |
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Oct 4 2010, 10:41 PM
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hey guys...just sharing your some picture of my puppy,1 years old
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Dec 17 2010, 01:00 PM
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my naughty pitbull~ just arrived home yesterday
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Jan 12 2011, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(se_eugene @ Dec 17 2010, 01:00 PM) my naughty pitbull~ just arrived home yesterday Wow, super cute! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  On the news, another bad record for pit bulls, they say it's a mongrel but it looks very much like a pit bull mix. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...-farm-dogs.html  |
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Jan 12 2011, 12:55 PM
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saw the news in sin chew paper also~ pretty much look like a pitbull
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Jan 15 2011, 10:52 AM
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The dog in the picture certainly appears to have a large dose of apbt in its genes. What can anyone say after such a tragic episode? Fault finding will not bring back a lost life. Both humans and the 2 dogs are victims; the dogs will have no future, most likely. Pits and their crosses can have high prey drive and an aggressive streak, more so the larger males, and need constant supervision. I own two such energetic crossbreeds, both neutered females. They are excellent protection dogs but need firm and correct handling to curb their natural instincts. They are not for novices and neglectful owners. This episode is a dire warning to would be owners of aggressive canine breeds. Know your dogs, socialize them, never let them run around other animals and humans without your supervision. And neuter the females to prevent accidental breedings.
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Feb 14 2011, 07:40 PM
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hey se_eugene, any updates on your pups? I love watching them grow, haha.
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Mar 6 2011, 05:12 PM
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Hi urgently looking for bull terriers...anyone know any breeders selling pups atm?
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Mar 6 2011, 07:33 PM
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Bull terriers? I think someone is selling a mini bull terrier in the classifieds. Try finding it there.
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Mar 7 2011, 12:04 AM
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Very highly interested to buy pitbull terrier pups..do contact me Gavin- 0166635628
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Mar 9 2011, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(gavintan87 @ Mar 7 2011, 12:04 AM) Very highly interested to buy pitbull terrier pups..do contact me Gavin- 0166635628 hi,jus email u my pitbull photos pls check thanks Added on March 9, 2011, 11:05 amhi everyone, I'm having one male Pitbull american showline with 5 months puppy for sales.. We want selling out cos our environment not suit for him.. Only sell to serious buyer ! if interest, pls contact me evonpyj@hotmail.com thanks This post has been edited by EVON4477: Mar 9 2011, 11:05 AM |
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Mar 23 2011, 06:50 PM
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This is Benji. My Pitbull/English Bulldog Mix
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Mar 25 2011, 08:06 PM
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Cute... where did you get him?
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Mar 26 2011, 12:14 PM
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A client of mine has a male pitbull and a female pitbull/EBD mix. This is from their litter.
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Mar 27 2011, 01:16 AM
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More on Benji
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Mar 27 2011, 07:24 AM
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Haha, so cute. I just love it when they rest their head over you, never fails to melt hearts!
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Mar 27 2011, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Mar 27 2011, 07:24 AM) Haha, so cute. I just love it when they rest their head over you, never fails to melt hearts! He's a sweetheart. Very hyper but obedient. Gets along well with my 2 other dogs and quite submissive. I'm hoping to keep him that way. But can't help but notice, how come your Juno so slim but Benji so overweight. Wonder if he will shed his baby fat. |
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Mar 28 2011, 04:21 PM
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is the K9 milk powder or capsules? where is it from please?
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Mar 30 2011, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 28 2011, 04:21 PM) is the K9 milk powder or capsules? where is it from please? hi there,i'm wondering this is a pitbull or a am bully?? can anyone help?? 
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Apr 9 2011, 04:40 PM
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Looks like a pitbull to me.
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Apr 9 2011, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(Kimmy_AngEl @ Mar 27 2011, 01:42 PM) He's a sweetheart. Very hyper but obedient. Gets along well with my 2 other dogs and quite submissive. I'm hoping to keep him that way. But can't help but notice, how come your Juno so slim but Benji so overweight. Wonder if he will shed his baby fat. LOL she's naturally like that I guess. I've tried to fatten her a littlebefore but she would just stay lean. Don't worry so much about your pup being too fat until 1 year old. She'll need all the nutrients she can get now. |
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Apr 14 2011, 03:21 PM
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Go read the Star's Metro section today April 14 and see what has come about as a consequence of the recent Penang tourist dog attack incident. The Subang Jaya council is banning the ownership of all aggressive dog breeds, the same breeds banned from import into Malaysia. This is sheer undisguised breed specific discrimination. And look at the various pictures shown in the papers. The apbt especially is pictured as a powerful, fangs bared, fearsome dog. Years ago, when a Rottweiler attacked a boy in Shah Alam, the same hysterical reaction was seen. It was only after much protest from various groups that proposed Rottweiler breed ban legislation was not implemented there. But other dog ownership restrictions were imposed. The people who propose such bans are, by and large, not dog owners and are pressured by others who are similarly ignorant and fearful. So, apbt and aggressive dog breed owners, please understand and take your responsibilities seriously. We don't need any more bad press. And please don't breed your dog indiscriminately. Neuter them if not breeding to improve bloodlines.
By the way, the 2 dogs in the Penang incident, plus 2 others surrendered by the owner, are likely to be put down, if not already done. A sad episode all round. |
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Jun 10 2011, 10:03 PM
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Benji Growing Up |
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Jul 16 2011, 08:57 PM
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Hi all,
it has been a long while since i last visited here. like freightfingers12, i bought 2 2-weeks old APBT in august 2009 and it is almost 2 years by now. each has grown into superbly build house guard. the bownish one is a superb fighter with typical APBT look and i truly love it. another is the mixed colur, larger-bone and strong guy. lately they began to fight, 3 times. and this evening the fight was bad, lasted 5 minutes. i made my decision to give away one, but looking for a dog lover.. i was wrong and did not believe the manyt advices of forummers here, yes, now i accept that they cant live together no matter how i tried. one has to go. my difficulty is which one to go, and its difficult to get a dog lover around in ipoh. very sad, but i dont want any of the APBT to get killed in the fight. its a very very difficult decision to make. i am afraid that the new owner ill treat it and does not feed it well like me .... i hope freightfingers can read this reply. sigh .... so sad. Added on July 16, 2011, 9:04 pm QUOTE(moe81 @ Oct 23 2009, 10:22 AM) Apbts are infact a very strong breed... R u keeping 2 males? if u are never tolerate any dominence behavior towards you.. in approximately a month or two, when the testosterone is kickin in, they will definately try to challenge u. never tolerate. no growling, no showing teeth. correct it immediately. put them in their place.. never let them think they can do whaever they want. this will reinforce their dominence(which is a NO NO). if they're not doin somethin u want them to do, never let them get away with it. make them do it. soon they'll learn, that when u tell them somethin, u'll make em do it even if they dun want to. moe was absoluitely correct. i did reply in this thread being aware of the risks, but now the risk happneded 3 times. sigh, so sad.if both r infact males, be prepared for dominence fight and puncture holes if u dun play ur part properly. small things like food, toy, bone, or even ur attention can trigger the fight. be able sense the tension when a fight about to go off and stop it even before it starts.. a strong 'NO' can distract their mind of the fighting mode. but if the fight has started, i can assure u it's not easy to pull 2 adult pits apart. it's like an adrenaline frenzy even hitting with stick or kickin them won't stop the fight. it takes two brave adult person to hold the dogs by collar chain and pull the apart to get them off the 'mode'. afterall, they were bred to fight till death. and they will if u dun stop them.. so, be able to recognise the stronger character and establish a proper pecking order. very important for a group of dogs livin in a pack, especially pits. u must never fail to do so coz u are the alpha male here.. and everrybody in ur family must be higher in the hierarchy than the dogs. this lets the dogs know who the boss is. even when a proper pecking order is established, sometimes these fight among pits are inevitable. it's funny sometimes, how they fight like worse enemies and after fight is separated, they'll behave like nothin happened between them. roam together and run around guarding together. well.. just shoot if u need any more advice.. This post has been edited by mikehwy: Jul 16 2011, 09:04 PM |
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If i have a yard, sure i'll like to keep one..
But mine is small terrace ground... not enough space for medium size, active dog... sayang.. Maybe i can help mum get one when the time is right...haizzz.. |
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Genetics is genetics... there is absolutely nothing you can do to change genetics no matter how much socialization you've done. This is the breed's trait, understand it and respect them for the way they are. An APBT is very dog aggressive and you should've understood the risks and responsibility when you decided to get both. I'm not going to state the obvious anymore. As much as I would love to adopt him, I can't afford to have another one. Perhaps moe would be able to. Good luck.
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Jul 17 2011, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Jul 17 2011, 12:45 PM) Genetics is genetics... there is absolutely nothing you can do to change genetics no matter how much socialization you've done. This is the breed's trait, understand it and respect them for the way they are. An APBT is very dog aggressive and you should've understood the risks and responsibility when you decided to get both. I'm not going to state the obvious anymore. As much as I would love to adopt him, I can't afford to have another one. Perhaps moe would be able to. Good luck. hi there.yes, i am waiting for dog-lover to adopt it rather than selling it. then, its difficult to get a dog-lover these days as they need to understand their genetics as you have said. i am trying it now to let it go .... so sad. |
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Jul 17 2011, 01:36 PM
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Do post some photos of the one you'd like to let go off. It would be easier for you to let him off.
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Jul 17 2011, 01:43 PM
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sure. i will try to take hpotos for both. each is very strong and very pitbull looking.
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Jul 17 2011, 09:27 PM
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Let this be a lesson for those who are ignorant. You should've took caution at the very first fight and stopped letting them be together without supervision.
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Jul 18 2011, 05:04 PM
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i am looking for a dog-lover from ipoh. hopefully he/she can love it as much as i can. thanks
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Aug 1 2011, 03:49 PM
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Mike, I think I saw your adoption post in mudah
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Aug 8 2011, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(xecton @ Aug 1 2011, 03:49 PM) Mike, I think I saw your adoption post in mudah yes, actually there are many enquiries fromKL. i dint trust them and so i rejected them all. i now post it at a local pet shop in ipoh. for adoption this time. hope a local lover from ipoh can meet me. if i am happy with them then i will give it away for free. money is not the matter.anyone from ipoh please? |
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Aug 8 2011, 06:13 PM
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Too bad I'm neither from Ipoh nor in the condition to keep any dog till next year.
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Aug 8 2011, 10:29 PM
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i am still looking for someone toadopt my pitbull. he is strong and lovely. still waiting for a pitbull-lover here.
Added on December 8, 2011, 10:35 amHello Alex, i could not contact you via sms. Please get back to me here, via pm. i hope you can adopt my pitbull. thank you. This post has been edited by mikehwy: Dec 8 2011, 10:35 AM |
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Hi guys!
Sorry for spamming, I just want to let you all know that we're having an event called DOGGYWOOD 2012 on 8th April 2012. Its basically a Hollywood for dogs and almost everyone who go to the event will win a prize. We have many prizes to give out. So, please like our page and register your self to us to be entitle for our Very Important Dog (VID) Zone with free flow F&B for your furry kids Details as follow: Doggywood Date: 8th April 2012 Time: 7.00am – 7.00pm Venue: Car Park 2 @Waterfront, Desa ParkCity Kepong Organised by: YanG Creative Powerhouse Sdn Bhd Official Magazine: Doggy Style Magazine Co-organizer: Pets More For more details please click on my signature, it will lead you to our page and registration form. Thank you and hope to see you all on the event! |
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Jun 13 2012, 12:38 PM
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anyone here still alive?
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Jun 13 2012, 02:43 PM
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All gone hiding.... Pitbull hysteria running rampage now.
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Sep 29 2012, 10:06 PM
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This Apbt section seems to be quiet for a while.
Hi all, Hope this apbt thread will be revived soon. JUst got myself a pup, female. Her name is Etta. Here are the pics. Comments welcomed. Cheers, Jeffrey Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Etta had her ears cropped. 5 days stay in the clinic to make sure she got the necessary post-op care. Vet did the ear taping after the final dressing. Will have to wait 5 days to undo the tapes. Hoping it will turn out well. I had requested for a slightly longer crop than the usual battle crop.
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Oct 9 2012, 09:48 PM
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She's really fine looking.
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Oct 10 2012, 10:50 AM
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Thanks xecton!
Hope this thread can be revived. Read through all the post here before getting Etta. May be getting another male later. Not for breeding but would really like to keep 2 of these. A different sex, proper supervision and neutering them would minimise conflicts, I think. Opinions are most welcomed regarding keeping more than one of this breed. |
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QUOTE(jeffretta @ Oct 10 2012, 10:50 AM) Thanks xecton! If you've read through the thread, then you should have read about one guy having to give up one of this two pitbulls because their fights are getting uncontrollable.Hope this thread can be revived. Read through all the post here before getting Etta. May be getting another male later. Not for breeding but would really like to keep 2 of these. A different sex, proper supervision and neutering them would minimise conflicts, I think. Opinions are most welcomed regarding keeping more than one of this breed. What makes you think you can do better? |
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Good question.
Firstly, he got himself 2 males and I will be having 2 of opposite sex and both would be neutered, which will surely reduce the aggression of the male to some extend. Secondly, I will be having a big space and the 2 dogs would be separated when I am not around to supervise. Finally, I have kept and trained dogs for a very long time and I know what to expect. Still, any additional info and opinions from you guys that are experienced with this breed would be useful. |
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Oct 12 2012, 06:53 PM
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Good luck then
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Oct 12 2012, 08:46 PM
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Thank you for your kind wishes For that, I will promise you that if having 2 pitbulls is really beyond me, I will certainly post here to caution others who want to do the same. |
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Etta, now 3 months plus.
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QUOTE(jeffretta @ Nov 12 2012, 01:04 AM) Etta, now 3 months plus. please keep us informed about their development in characters, especially when they reach 2 years of age.really interested to follow them. thank you. |
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Nov 16 2012, 12:53 PM
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this dog be train or treat well .... is no issue, some owner train is as fight dog is very dangerious
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Nov 22 2012, 03:16 PM
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Just a little piece of advice. Your ampit bull, whether male or female, even if neutered, is likely to have high prey drive. With 2 dogs, that spells extreme double danger to all other small animals in the neighborhood, especially cats that stray into your yard at night. One quick chase, one leap, one bite and shake of the head, and it's curtains for the intruder. All that done with the minimum of noise. You won't even know till the next morning.
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Jan 12 2013, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Nov 22 2012, 03:16 PM) Just a little piece of advice. Your ampit bull, whether male or female, even if neutered, is likely to have high prey drive. With 2 dogs, that spells extreme double danger to all other small animals in the neighborhood, especially cats that stray into your yard at night. One quick chase, one leap, one bite and shake of the head, and it's curtains for the intruder. All that done with the minimum of noise. You won't even know till the next morning. true true. my 'ex' pitbull had eaten 5 cats that intruded my garden. he kept on chewing ... and chewing ..... gosh .... only a bladder left. this fellow could run and catch cats !!! |
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Jan 19 2013, 01:35 AM
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Hi....I posted some pics of my Pitbull/Bulldog mix here when he was a puppy. His Name is Benji. Well, he has turned 2. And I have to say that Benji is the sweetest, most submissive dog I have ever had. I've had a few mongrels and a Doberman and none of them compares to Benji. He is friendly to everyone, adults and children and even ok with cats. I brought home a sick kitten who unfortunately succumbed to his sickness and died. While he was with me, my other 2 dogs ( Mongrels )could not stand him. Benji wanted to befriend him but the kitten was too sick to play with him. Also, he is very respectful of my two other mongrels who are older than him, especially the older one who is male. Benji will never go near him when he is eating, and never ever sit on his 'spot'. Anyway, here are some recent pictures of Benji.
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Jan 19 2013, 01:49 AM
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Oh ya.... and here's some pics of my older mongrel Chester and Benji. They kind of have an older brother younger brother relationship.
And also one pic of Benji on his favorite Chair. And also one of the look that I get from him every morning when I go to work. 
By the way, my whole family is just so in love with him. My mom does not really dare to pet Chester cos he tends to snap. But she dare to cuddle Benji... |
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Jan 24 2013, 11:33 AM
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Kimmy, your Benji's temperament is totally different from my two pit/dobe crossbreeds, siblings from 2 different litters, 3/4 years old. They are neutered & female but the prey drive is very strong in them, one extremely so. This particular 3 year old crossbreed is so fiercely pitbull in all her ways; alert, territorial, dominant, stubborn, aggressive, athletic but a potential danger to all other smaller animals including dogs, cats, squirrels, birds. Not tested on house burglars yet but anything that intrudes into her backyard is fair game. You get the picture. The other 4 year old dog has a milder temperament but will not tolerate intruders as well. My backyard is very well guarded from animal or human intrusion as a result.
The two dogs have fought several times over domination issues. I have been inadvertently nipped in the leg a couple of times when breaking up their fights, and dragged to the ground by them suddenly lunging at a cat hiding in the bushes. I walk them before 6 am every morning, oftentimes with a friend's 2 dogs, and they are ok together. But sometimes I have to lay down the law before they get out of hand wanting to chase a strange cat, or going after another dog or a passing motorcyclist. This is an ongoing disciplinary issue. Your Benji is an angel by comparison but certainly no watchdog! Cheers. |
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Jan 26 2013, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(clearfish @ Jan 24 2013, 11:33 AM) Kimmy, your Benji's temperament is totally different from my two pit/dobe crossbreeds, siblings from 2 different litters, 3/4 years old. They are neutered & female but the prey drive is very strong in them, one extremely so. This particular 3 year old crossbreed is so fiercely pitbull in all her ways; alert, territorial, dominant, stubborn, aggressive, athletic but a potential danger to all other smaller animals including dogs, cats, squirrels, birds. Not tested on house burglars yet but anything that intrudes into her backyard is fair game. You get the picture. The other 4 year old dog has a milder temperament but will not tolerate intruders as well. My backyard is very well guarded from animal or human intrusion as a result. I agree that my Benji is no watchdog! He is just too friendly and babyish. However, my older mongrel is a very good watch dog. He is the most dominant of my 3 dogs ( 2 Mongrels and 1 Pitbull), stubborn, alert and aggresive also. I guess my mongrel and my pitbull sort of switch personalities The two dogs have fought several times over domination issues. I have been inadvertently nipped in the leg a couple of times when breaking up their fights, and dragged to the ground by them suddenly lunging at a cat hiding in the bushes. I walk them before 6 am every morning, oftentimes with a friend's 2 dogs, and they are ok together. But sometimes I have to lay down the law before they get out of hand wanting to chase a strange cat, or going after another dog or a passing motorcyclist. This is an ongoing disciplinary issue. Your Benji is an angel by comparison but certainly no watchdog! Cheers. |
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Jan 28 2013, 04:27 PM
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emm, i am so happy to read that there are tame apbt who can socialise with other breeds..
so cute to see these pics. hope to hear more from the forummers. |
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Jan 29 2013, 02:29 AM
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Actually all pitbull enthusiasts should check out and like these two FB pages. They are of Gremlin and Elle. Both pit bulls and both members of the Therapits. They are certified therapy dogs who were former bait dogs before they were rescued. They have done so much to help people and also to promote the good of this breed.
http://m.facebook.com/GremlinTheTherapyDog...1079143035&_rdr http://m.facebook.com/EllethePitBull?id=208403855840588&_rdr This post has been edited by Kimmy_AngEl: Jan 29 2013, 02:33 AM |
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Jan 29 2013, 02:35 AM
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To add to that. I am a very big fan of the Therapits
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Feb 6 2013, 10:40 AM
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Sigh...my two female pit crossbreeds fought each other when we were all out for dinner last weekend. The trigger was probably the stray kitten we are temporary fostering till we find him a home. One dog had shown signs of possessiveness over the kitten earlier with her rigid posture and unwavering stare. We found both dogs abnormally subdued when we returned, with one all bloody at the ear and neck. Till now, her ear is still swollen though she is recovering otherwise. The other had only superficial bite marks. The situation could have been a lot worse with both having serious injuries if they had really gone at each other.
This is just a warning about having two strong aggressive dogs together. You cannot always be there to control the situation. The trigger for a fight can be something so innocuous you are just not aware of the danger till it happens. Prevent accidents if you can. Regrets are too late. For me, till the the stray kitten finds a home, the dogs will be physically separated whenever no one is around. The alternative is to give one dog up for adoption, which is too painful to contemplate. This post has been edited by clearfish: Feb 6 2013, 11:04 AM |
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Mar 27 2013, 06:00 PM
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This was taken during Chinese New Year. Benji scared of Fire Crackers...LOL |
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Mar 28 2013, 12:26 AM
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hi anyone expecting puppies? my friend is looking for a dog. pm me
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Mar 31 2013, 12:00 AM
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Benji Very happy with his new Starbucks Singlet. |
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Apr 2 2013, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(Kimmy_AngEl @ Mar 31 2013, 12:00 AM)
Benji Very happy with his new Starbucks Singlet. |
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Apr 2 2013, 01:20 AM
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mike, show some picture of your dog... new ones
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Apr 3 2013, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(xecton @ Apr 2 2013, 01:20 AM) mike, show some picture of your dog... new ones ok. will take some pics of this huge bull. really strong as a bull. so loyal. so obedient. |
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Apr 3 2013, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(Kimmy_AngEl @ Mar 31 2013, 12:00 AM)
Benji Very happy with his new Starbucks Singlet. |
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Apr 7 2013, 03:52 AM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Apr 2 2013, 12:23 AM) haha... he looks like something else but not pitbull. so cute...haha Maybe cos Benji's Mother is half English Bull Dog and Pitbull is what makes him more docile since English Bull Dogs are not known to be aggresive.But his Father is Pure Rednose Pitbull. I do not know who took his 2 other siblings so I could not compare notes with them. My training methods with him is actually very soft. I have always been fascinated by Pit Bulls and did a lot of research before deciding to take Benji home.My main concern when I first brought Benji home was that he and my male mongrel will not get along as my male mongrel (Big size)is very dominant. My female is a small mongrel.I have 2 Males and a Female right now including Benji.I know that Benji has the strength to overpower me anytime he wants. He weights about 40kgs and has a very powerful jaw and I'm just a 5foot tall girl...But I trust that he respects me enough not to do that. I take discipline seriously, don't get me wrong. When he was a puppy I enforce what is called by some trainers as a hierarchy. He is taught that he is the lower member of the pack. He MUST at all times respect all humans who live in this house with him. Humans are his pack leader. Next, he MUST respect the 2 older dogs. So they get their food, snacks and toys always before him.I do not tolerate any aggression towards the pack. I also do not tolerate stealing other dog's food and toys. A 'time out' will be the result of breaking the rules. Of course a balance diet, exercise and love goes a long way. I am NOT a dog trainer, nor am I claiming to be one. I learn what I know through books,CDs and advise on training. Also from miskates I made with my 2 other dogs. Just posting here to share experience of bringing up a Pitbull in a household which has 2 other dogs of different breeds. |
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Apr 8 2013, 07:44 PM
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To xecton, freakfingers and all friends, my silly big fella Tiger ...
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Apr 9 2013, 01:23 PM
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mike, Tiger has such a serious face
Benji always muka kesian. |
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Apr 9 2013, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(xecton @ Apr 9 2013, 01:23 PM) mike, Tiger has such a serious face haha, pitbull ma. but i truly love Tiger's very think neck, huge paws and the 'bone' that bulges right below his neck and above the front check.Benji always muka kesian. |
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Apr 10 2013, 01:43 AM
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Tiger is a very handsome boy! I love his brindal colour
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Apr 10 2013, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE(xecton @ Apr 9 2013, 01:23 PM) mike, Tiger has such a serious face Not only Muka kesian...Muka manja also. Sometimes he gets confused and thinks that he's a lapdog. Which is not good for me cos I will have a 40kg dog trying to sit on my lap. I would push him off cos I cannot breathe...then he will just settle for my leg Benji always muka kesian. 
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Apr 14 2013, 11:47 AM
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more pics of Tiger on a sunday morning ....
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May 16 2013, 05:58 PM
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Benji & Mummy
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May 28 2013, 09:22 PM
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Guys I'm looking for a apbt pup. Preferably a legit breeder as I'm looking for a medium energy buddy. Not low nor high energy. How much would these pups be?
If u need detailed specifications: a big boned pit, female, age around 5+/- months, colour preferably grey+white, medium energy(very important) ,medium temperament, I do also hope this is from a proper breeder as i want to have a look at the Dam and Sire too. Btw my lifestyle if you must know, the amount of walks I take the dog on a day is 2. Each walk around 15-30 minutes. Looking for a semi-guard dog because after the recent death of my apbt+sharpei mix I'm in desperate need of a buddy who can teman me and protect my house whn I'm away. She doesn't need to be like garang garang want to fight all the time . Just enough the display a little aggression . And make sure no creepy rats skitter in . A high energy pit won't fit becuz I don't think my lifestyle will be healthy forHer This post has been edited by sixtydee123: May 29 2013, 09:27 AM |
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Jun 3 2013, 10:43 PM
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How to differentiate American pittbull and staffoshire terrier?
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Jun 16 2013, 12:31 AM
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the Tiger as at today. he is getting taller a bit n much more obedient to me. great buddy.
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Jun 16 2013, 12:32 AM
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the Tiger as at today. just for record purpose.
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Jul 6 2013, 11:05 PM
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This is the way Benji begs for food...Not that I dont feed him enough...just that he's a bottomless pit! ( Literally)
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Jul 8 2013, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(Kimmy_AngEl @ Jul 6 2013, 11:05 PM) This is the way Benji begs for food...Not that I dont feed him enough...just that he's a bottomless pit! ( Literally) aah. Benji is cute. my Tiger would bark at me to ask for desserts. haha
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Jul 16 2013, 01:14 AM
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What's the feature you love most about yout Pit? For me, I love Benji's eyes.....They 'communicate' with me without words, plus...his eyes make him look so Innocent and cute!!....
 
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Aug 3 2013, 05:24 PM
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My old man & the beast.
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Aug 3 2013, 10:26 PM
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ive read about how one assume a pit would be a very dangerous dog ...
ive had 2 pits in the past and expecting my 3rd pit in a month... well, thru my experience, ive had a shitzu before my pits.. and believe me, my pit is human friendly and somehow, knows how to respect my shitzu... he would shy away when my shitzu is around, but my shitzu is the one acting all pit while my pit act all shitzu.... to me, its how you bring the dog up.. ive walked in to pits and rottweilers compound without a prob, as the owner is there to command.. & i too have been to my friends house and got bitten by a chihuahua and a .... that mini doberman dog.... in most cases, its often how one brings up the dog.. and its sad to say a lot does not know how... especially those who dont have access to internet... a very simple thing would be..... people often go hit the dog trying to correct them when bite foot wear.. but how many would know, you need to teach and correct them as off the moment they do it or they would forget what the punishment is for... simple said, all dogs can be dangerous if the way of bringing it up is wrong.. |
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Aug 3 2013, 11:17 PM
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sorry, may i ask if anyone got recommendation for a place to crop ears?
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Aug 4 2013, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Aug 3 2013, 11:17 PM) sorry, may i ask if anyone got recommendation for a place to crop ears? Any Vet will do that i guess, try to ask your Vet will they do the crop job, if not you have to find another one. |
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Oct 13 2013, 11:54 PM
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Sorry...how much for the crop ears?
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Oct 13 2013, 11:56 PM
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My friend is giving me a 6 weeks old pitbull...i rare pincher now..no experience raring big/fierce dog...any problem if i take the pitbull?
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Oct 23 2013, 08:01 PM
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anyone know any breeder for pitbull or american staffordshire terrier?
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Oct 27 2013, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(sandcool @ Oct 13 2013, 11:56 PM) My friend is giving me a 6 weeks old pitbull...i rare pincher now..no experience raring big/fierce dog...any problem if i take the pitbull? Pitbulls are sweet dogs, they are not as fierce as people think they are. The bad reputation created for pitbulls is not true, ask pitbull owners here! |
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Nov 3 2013, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(sandcool @ Oct 13 2013, 11:56 PM) My friend is giving me a 6 weeks old pitbull...i rare pincher now..no experience raring big/fierce dog...any problem if i take the pitbull? if u r talking about american pitbull terriers, then its ok. they r more loyal and friendly than u can guess. but they need more care like other pets. |
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Nov 3 2013, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(sandcool @ Oct 23 2013, 08:01 PM) anyone know any breeder for pitbull or american staffordshire terrier? Try calling up MKA for some breeders' contact. |
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Nov 4 2013, 09:17 AM
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Which is an easier dog to keep and train for a bungalow with kids? German Shepherd or Pitbull?
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Nov 4 2013, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Nov 3 2013, 11:30 AM) if u r talking about american pitbull terriers, then its ok. they r more loyal and friendly than u can guess. but they need more care like other pets. hehe...i got APBT cousin......Amstaff...kekkekek like the body sturcture..... |
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Nov 4 2013, 12:12 PM
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I have a 6 months old Male APT for adoption. All vaccination done. I am from KL. Anyone interested, please PM me.
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Nov 4 2013, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(aus866 @ Nov 4 2013, 09:17 AM) Which is an easier dog to keep and train for a bungalow with kids? German Shepherd or Pitbull? pitbull or American Staffordshire terrier is good with kids... |
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Nov 5 2013, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(aus866 @ Nov 4 2013, 09:17 AM) Which is an easier dog to keep and train for a bungalow with kids? German Shepherd or Pitbull? It's not as simple as that. In general, both breeds are good with kids but pits especially can be very aggressive towards other small animals. The issue is with the bloodline, whether show, working or guard types. For a pure breed GS registered with MKA or similar body with papers, you may be able to track its ancestry through several generations. Show dog types tend to be real pussies, they are relatively docile. However, for an american pit which is non-registrable with MKA, you can't check their ancestry. My experience is that pits have higher prey drive and energy; need closer supervision and a firm hand to avoid accidental dog fights. |
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Nov 6 2013, 05:30 PM
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PITBULL MASTIFF - NEWS- NOV 6 2013
I am confused. Why would a dog suddenly attack someone they familiarized in the home? |
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Nov 7 2013, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(aus866 @ Nov 6 2013, 05:30 PM) PITBULL MASTIFF - NEWS- NOV 6 2013 Zero in on key facts to throw some light on the tragic episodeI am confused. Why would a dog suddenly attack someone they familiarized in the home? 1 The family had the dog for only 4 weeks, not a long time to be familiarised 2 The dog is a French Mastiff cross ; mastiffs are a large, strong breed 3 The dog's previous background/history is not revealed 4 The circumstances under which the attack took place are not disclosed I am also not sure how the pitbull tag came into the picture unless the dog is a cross between a mastiff and a pitbull. Pits get undeserved bad press and many dog attacks are wrongly attributed to pits even when it's another breed. Never let young children play with an aggressive breed dog without adult supervision. Kids can be rough with the dog eg pulling its ears, hitting it, and it may react by biting back. Some temperamental dogs lose control easily under such provocation. |
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Nov 9 2013, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(kuchingtiger @ Aug 3 2013, 05:24 PM) My old man & the beast. wow, your s is very alert and very pitbull !!! hope to see more of his pictures. waiting la ... |
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QUOTE(aus866 @ Nov 4 2013, 09:17 AM) Which is an easier dog to keep and train for a bungalow with kids? German Shepherd or Pitbull? You are asking at APT fan page. |
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Nov 11 2013, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(aus866 @ Nov 6 2013, 05:30 PM) PITBULL MASTIFF - NEWS- NOV 6 2013 Dog can live with you is 1 thing, whether they respect you or not is another matter....I am confused. Why would a dog suddenly attack someone they familiarized in the home? and where the dog lives, that is his territory... not yours.... proper up bringing is a must.... owner of 3 pits in the past and 1 pit now... |
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Feb 7 2014, 01:58 AM
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This was Taken During Chinese New Year. This is Benji Enjoying the Fireworks on Chinese New Year Eve. My other 2 dogs are hiding during this ordeal. But Benji seems to enjoy it.
This is Benji's expression when he sees me all dressed up going visiting. 
And you should have seen him with my guests during CNY. He was so welcoming of everyone. Even some people he never saw before. A good example of a Pitbull who is extremely friendly and does not have a vicious bone in his body. This post has been edited by Kimmy_AngEl: Feb 7 2014, 02:01 AM |
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QUOTE(aus866 @ Nov 6 2013, 05:30 PM) PITBULL MASTIFF - NEWS- NOV 6 2013 Pitbull should be socialized when young just like all other dogs. I am confused. Why would a dog suddenly attack someone they familiarized in the home? Some owners don't exercise and socialize their dogs which causes trouble later on. Mine is very happy to see anyone. She barks when strangers at the gate but once inside and introduced by us through smelling, most of the time she becomes happy. I am only speaking about my Pitbull not French Mastiff. |
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Hello all,
i am looking for a large bine american pitbull puppy. any suggestions where to get it? i am from Ipoh, and KL. Thanks |
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