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post Aug 22 2024, 10:48 AM, updated 2y ago

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This is in relation to the Awd models like cx5 and Honda crv. Any suggestions? TBh, personally not favor AWD car. My thought was SUV is oredi a heavy car. with AWd, the FC and performance are surely inferior.
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post Aug 22 2024, 10:52 AM

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Higher fuel consumption.

Tyre wear off faster.
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post Aug 22 2024, 10:56 AM

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more traction is always safer in high speed dry/wet cornering...

if cannot afford the extra fc... look for other cars...

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post Aug 22 2024, 11:08 AM

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If uncle have some construction, kelapa sawit, durian plantation some non tar road then consider AWD especially rainy seasons.

If aunty go market, pick kids from school then 2WD enuf.

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post Aug 22 2024, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Aug 22 2024, 10:48 AM)
This is in relation to the Awd models like cx5 and Honda crv. Any suggestions?  TBh, personally not favor AWD car. My thought was SUV is oredi a heavy car. with AWd, the FC and performance are surely inferior.
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if you dont like AWD or SUV, then better you stick to sedan with FWD or RWD.
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:27 AM

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First of all not all SUVs are AWD/4WD. Some comes in 2 wheel drive options too.

Even if SUVs come with 4WD, its like what they call an "intelligent" 4WD where the car runs on 2WD until the car detects wheel slip or wheel spin when the 4WD will automatically engage. So it doesn't run on 4wd all the time.

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post Aug 22 2024, 11:32 AM

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Cons
1. Fuel consumption
2. Tyre / brake wear
3. AWD controller exposure
4. Parts are interlinked, one spoil the rest cannot function properly
5. Maintenance oils / grease consumption
6. Gearbox more prone to jerking if poor maintenance compared to other types

Pros
1. More power deliverable
2. Better traction and handling
3. Suspension can handle uneven roads better averaging out

can continue
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:34 AM

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Mitsubishi explanation in AWD

Weight shifts to the front causing the rear end to become light. Full throttle through a corner depends if the tires have grip. If the rear tires grip, you'll understeer. If the rear tires begin to break loose, you can throttle/oversteer on a corner exit, you just have to get the rear tires to spin a bit.

Subaru explanations in AWD

Because an All-Wheel Drive car only transmits half of the drive force at each wheel, the amount of grip available for cornering forces is greater than a Rear-Wheel Drive car for the same level of engine power. Meaning that the best AWD car will lose sideways grip at much higher cornering forces than the best RWD car
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:35 AM

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post Aug 22 2024, 11:35 AM

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Most on the road AWD from Mazda or CRV are part time or on-demand AWD. Means most of the time 90% of the power still go thru the front wheels and only during emergency or front tires loss traction only trigger rear tires. These kind of AWD usually dont have much performance as it may lag 1~2 second before actual activating it.

The only full time AWD from Japanese is from Subaru which all the time 60% front, 40% rear power distribution (CVT) while manual gear is 50:50, and usually they got the best reaction time during emergency and off road condition.

The fuel consumption for modern AWD are not far from FWD nowadays and if driven well may even match or better especially driving on hill areas as AWD tend to have better weight/power distribution (less understeer/oversteer) and easy to slide thru corners.

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die die want use Threadripper 32core/64 thread. 128GB RAM.

pair with GTX1650


for their purpose.
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(ads398 @ Aug 22 2024, 11:08 AM)
If uncle have some construction, kelapa sawit, durian plantation some non tar road then consider AWD especially rainy seasons.

If aunty go market, pick kids from school then 2WD enuf.
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This is the answer you're looking for.

I'd say 80% use case you don't need AWD, just need better tyres. But if indeed you drive off-road often, then definitely AWD.

Don't kena kon people say AWD makes it more stable on rainy highway driving etc. It might be the case but good tyres on 2WD is better than crap tyres using AWD.
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ Aug 22 2024, 12:37 PM)
This is the answer you're looking for.

I'd say 80% use case you don't need AWD, just need better tyres. But if indeed you drive off-road often, then definitely AWD.

Don't kena kon people say AWD makes it more stable on rainy highway driving etc. It might be the case but good tyres on 2WD is better than crap tyres using AWD.
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Try ask someone borrow you example Subaru Xv and drive on highway & hill roads (genting) during rainy season, while also test drive another FWD similar ride like Honda HRV, Toyota Corolla Cross or Mazda CX-3/30. To be fair all tire condition in good and feel your self, especially Genting roads with wet situation, you will know the difference very fast. Until test driven different rides, then you will know the difference for different suspension set up and drivetrain.
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 22 2024, 11:35 AM)
Most on the road AWD from Mazda or CRV are part time or on-demand AWD. Means most of the time 90% of the power still go thru the front wheels and only during emergency or front tires loss traction only trigger rear tires. These kind of AWD usually dont have much performance as it may lag 1~2 second before actual activating it.

The only full time AWD from Japanese is from Subaru which all the time 60% front, 40% rear power distribution (CVT) while manual gear is 50:50, and usually they got the best reaction time during emergency and off road condition. 

The fuel consumption for modern AWD are not far from FWD nowadays and if driven well may even match or better especially driving on hill areas as AWD tend to have better weight/power distribution (less understeer/oversteer) and easy to slide thru corners.
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my thoughts too that AWD tends to be a few seconds slower than a FWD or RWD car in century sprint. correct?
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 22 2024, 11:42 AM)
Try ask someone borrow you example Subaru Xv and drive on highway & hill roads (genting) during rainy season, while also test drive another FWD similar ride like Honda HRV, Toyota Corolla Cross or Mazda CX-3/30. To be fair all tire condition in good and feel your self, especially Genting roads with wet situation, you will know the difference very fast. Until test driven different rides, then you will know the difference for different suspension set up and drivetrain.
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Consider OP is asking about CX5 and CRV, which have on-demand AWD systems and not the XV's asymmetrical system.

If OP is comparing within CX5 range or CRV range, the AWD system in those are basically useless 80% of the time, unless you go offroad often or drive like a madman in the wet.

Subaru's AWD is very different, its on all the time. So obviously it would feel better, but whether it's necessary or not if you drive normally is the question.

If you plan to drive up Genting in the wet and never drop below 80kph, then yeah, maybe stick to an XV.

But if you drive within speed limit, carrying family and cargo on paved roads, you honestly don't need any AWD systems.
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:54 AM

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tbh Forester 2.0 AWD not that fuel consuming in my opinion, it does better than X50, but X50 have a lot of torque higher than even some NA 2.4L engine.
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post Aug 22 2024, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ Aug 22 2024, 11:54 AM)
Consider OP is asking about CX5 and CRV, which have on-demand AWD systems and not the XV's asymmetrical system.

If OP is comparing within CX5 range or CRV range, the AWD system in those are basically useless 80% of the time, unless you go offroad often or drive like a madman in the wet.

Subaru's AWD is very different, its on all the time. So obviously it would feel better, but whether it's necessary or not if you drive normally is the question.

If you plan to drive up Genting in the wet and never drop below 80kph, then yeah, maybe stick to an XV.

But if you drive within speed limit, carrying family and cargo on paved roads, you honestly don't need any AWD systems.
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correct bro! if that's the case i don't see the purpose of buying the AWD model of the crv and it costs 15k more than the normal variant. further more with higher FC and slower performance.
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post Aug 22 2024, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Aug 22 2024, 11:54 AM)
tbh Forester 2.0 AWD not that fuel consuming in my opinion, it does better than X50, but X50 have a lot of torque higher than even some NA 2.4L engine.
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Forester under XT variant is the only one equip with turbo if need greater torque

The worst fuel consumption is xtrail 2.5kcc variant AWD.
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post Aug 22 2024, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Aug 22 2024, 11:57 AM)
correct bro!  if that's the case i don't see the purpose of buying the AWD model of the crv and it costs 15k more than the normal variant. further more with higher FC and slower performance.
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If you rly into AWD either Mitsubishi/Subaru/quattro , just my personal preference.
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post Aug 22 2024, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Aug 22 2024, 11:57 AM)
correct bro!  if that's the case i don't see the purpose of buying the AWD model of the crv and it costs 15k more than the normal variant. further more with higher FC and slower performance.
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Save the money and get good, fresh tyres is a wiser choice, OP.

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