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 [2024] iPhone 16 Pro/Pro Max Discussion, Hello, Apple Intelligence.

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post Nov 16 2024, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Nov 16 2024, 02:01 PM)
I face the camera down the table with case where camera ring higher than camera and not a transparent case, so it is totally blocking the light source. I only start taken the photo after I face down the camera.

I accept and I don't have issue with that. This is not a common way of taking photo. Off course if your main photo taking is always 99% using slow shutter for milky way photography, then it is different story.
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What I mean is your phone can be completely fine. If your previous test was in real complete darkness yours is the worst I have come across in all my days of couch research on this issue, surely you cannot be so lucky. Trust me, you haven’t properly sealed your camera from light in your previous test.

With so much light leakage you don’t even have a chance for night photography. But as long as you’re happy.
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post Nov 16 2024, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(kirakun @ Nov 16 2024, 03:02 PM)
Unfortunately you are not the only one. We are in the same boat. Bought 2 16pm at the same time. One good while the other facing exactly the same sensor problem of blue blue blue in absolute darkness with 30s exposure.

Apparently Apple's 14 days return policy is not applicable to malaysia unlike US or the Europe. Read somewhere that Switch's return policy is only applicable the moment you bought the phone/product and before you walk out the shop/store. Discovered the sensor problem on one of the phone a tad too late.

For those who plan to buy 16 series in the stores, do check the sensor thingy on the spot. Then 1 to 1 exchange can be made.
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I can accept mistakes, and escapees. We are human after all. But I cannot accept if Apple says this is normal to have one so bad and another good and then pretend cannot replicate the issue. Imagine back to the days of antenna gate with iPhone 4 but what if Steve Jobs insist everyone holding the phone wrong. They should do the right thing and fix this not send it back to customer. In my job if we treat customers like this in a few exchanges will get escalate and director come screw our ass. And my business is kind of a monopoly lagi.
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post Nov 17 2024, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(angel-girl @ Nov 16 2024, 10:51 PM)
Have you check your phone camera sensor maker?
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How does one do such a check? And supposing I do what can achieve with that?
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post Nov 17 2024, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(angel-girl @ Nov 17 2024, 09:42 AM)
https://m.i4.cn/

I use this but its in mandarin thou. Mine is LG for from and back camera.
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Honestly I’m not interested to know right now, probably I’m in the wrong stage of grief haha.
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post Nov 17 2024, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Nov 17 2024, 02:03 PM)
For Milky Way & Northern lights using a proper camera would yield a significantly better result than relying on a phone. For daylight shots the phone will do great, but for lowlight shots the phone is mainly for convenience. If you are serious in getting great shots after spending so much on traveling for northern lights I’d rely more on a camera than phone though.
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Agree, it is foolish to go far and specifically timed events and locations with “just a phone”.
But it is very important for previews, rangefinding and chimping. No camera process as fast as a phone JPEG for Astro and low light. With that info you can setup your dedicated camera.

But it is beside the point. Defects are defects. I wouldn’t mind at all to be refunded 100% for my phone and Apple keep their in spec products for others to use.
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post Nov 19 2024, 09:30 AM

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Guys. I have accepted the grief, and now I am moving on.
Possibly I will trade my phone away but since my wife has an 15Pro that can do astrophotography properly, I will take my time to decide what next.

How about some humour.

I speculate that the guys in Menara CIMB is doing simple procedure : Lunch!
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OH just in case you wondering - my phone camera problem is still there, and I found even more bugs.

Apparently if you set to 30s and enable timed shutter release you can get 42s shutter speed. BUT it will terminate at a random time between 10 to 30s. Some of the time, the shot is not processed and not saved.

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QUOTE(N_Silver @ Nov 19 2024, 01:09 PM)
Hi guys,i thinking of getting 16 PM,anyone can update me what issue 16 PM have encounter so far and is it already resolve?thank you
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Bugs left and right. Keyboard buggy, emoji buggy

My camera comes out bluish if trying to take a 30s long exposure night mode in the dark. Cannot resolve, send back to Apple no fix return to me. Bear in mind some units are completely fine, some are like mine.

Scrolling is jerky in various apps.

Not a bug - AI is not yet arrive.

I encountered a shortcut not launching recently but not sure yet.


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post Nov 19 2024, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 19 2024, 02:46 PM)
What's with the keyboard and emoji buggy? I haven't experienced those.

As for the long exposure, I didn't try as well.

Shortcut not launching, so far my shortcut is working well.
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I feel the keyboard once in a while does not register. But maybe it’s difficult to reproduce.
Emoji is easy to replicate:

user posted image

If I disable stickers the emojis come back.

This is the 3rd time my iPhone 16 factory reset.

Previous two times the keyboard is ok.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Nov 19 2024, 03:09 PM)
The empty part is sticker but it can’t appear. I think you also facing cannot self create sticker.
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Yaya. I never use this but my kids use this a lot (they use my phone to message friends)
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 19 2024, 02:46 PM)

As for the long exposure, I didn't try as well.

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Today with some free time at the Switch while waiting for my phone to be returned to me, I tried roughly 5 Iphone pro/pro max. Only 1 in the store showed blue.
Great luck for me.
In my total experience with this issue, I have seen 3 units with issue, tested about 10 units total.

QUOTE(kirakun @ Nov 19 2024, 03:40 PM)
Apparently nothing much we can do over here at bolehland. Prolly will wait for the 17 pro max to be released then trade in and won't repeat the same mistake of not testing out at the store lol.
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I am honestly peeved with Apple right now, and I think it will take a lot more to earn back my trust after this. I am tied to iOS yes but I don't have contract with them.
My thoughts right now is don't buy 17. Anyway my upgrade cycle is easily 3 years+, so by then Iphone 20 release and I will likely buy 19, hopefully it is all good with no issue. Otherwise no go.

QUOTE(N_Silver @ Nov 19 2024, 04:57 PM)
Wow,first time i hear got so many bugs on ios.well i just thinking to trade in my 14 pm (my first iphone) to try the latest one.its effect on specific apps or random?
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Not understand, what are you asking about regarding specific apps or random?
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QUOTE(kirakun @ Nov 19 2024, 10:27 PM)
I must be super lucky then bangwall.gif . Bought 2 at the same time same place but 1 with blue. Even my 12 mini no such sensor issue. My upgrade cycle are 3-6 years. Previous was 11pm and 13pm. None were with this kind of sensor defect. Thought with the current buy can last for at least another 4-6 years. Apple must be getting lame QAQC wise. What a disgrace to Apple's reputation.
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You don’t deserve to bang wall. If anything it’s Tim Cook who should have his salary cut to pay our refund / returns. But it’s not happening.

Now let’s look forward. I’m experimenting with apps. I like AstroShader and seems like it can also produce 30s shutter speed without the blue. With bonus of being auto stacking I think it’s a worthwhile free workaround.

Another method is to trade in your 16pm for “upgrade” at the switch if you really want to. Perhaps by dice roll it’s worth it to you to suffer 1k + loss…..to Tim.

Or trade it in for a pixel. It’s got the best astrophotography chops, max shutter time 4:30minutes!
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 20 2024, 07:40 AM)
At 4:30 minutes, without a tracker can still work ka? Won't it have star trails by then?
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According to technical reviewers it is 16*16s stacked.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Nov 20 2024, 01:33 PM)
Yup agreed!
Apple need to fix this, I am not going to factory reset because of the sticker not working.
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Ain’t nobody got time to go to every single ATM to revalidate the damn banking apps….
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 20 2024, 04:37 PM)
MBB, RHB will require. PBB still can try luck with CS without going through ATM.
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The luck of actually getting a CS answering you is astronomical.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Nov 20 2024, 05:04 PM)
You can try to contact Apple CS directly and ask to escalate to higher up. I did that with my MBP long ago around 2015 after sending in my laptop for screen repair, after 2-3 times still haven't fixed. I complained and requested for a new replacement and they agreed to it.
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Thanks for the suggestion may I know if your mbp case was similar in a way like mine whereby they claim to have fixed your product / device but actually no do anything at all?
QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 20 2024, 05:13 PM)
Hmm. PBB CS is pretty responsive.
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My last time trying to call PBB call Center needed 1 hour waiting for nothing
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QUOTE(captsurya @ Nov 21 2024, 09:22 AM)
You do not need to go the bank for Secure2u activation. Just visit any Maybank ATM, and an option will pop on the bottom left corner of the screen i think. Select that option & 12hrs later you will be sorted.
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with all respect, unless you happen to be near a Maybank ATM, going to the branch = going to the ATM no?
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Nov 21 2024, 12:23 PM)
i though im the only one who is facing this..
my 16pm feels weird while taking photos, not everything is clear. for eg documents  photos ..
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QUOTE(Yaowarat @ Nov 21 2024, 12:44 PM)
yes , i also notice the document scanning not clear compared to previous 13 pm. Wonder its hardware or software related?
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I believe you have accidentally switched on Macro mode and forced the scan on the wide angle camera.
It is very aggressive if you allow it to automatically switch. Its the flower icon. You can disable auto macro if you want.
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Nov 21 2024, 03:11 PM)
i disabled auto macro also the same..
hopefully future updates will improve the camera.. if not next year just trade in and change..

from your previous posts, looks like your 16 facing some issues too?
hopefully our 16 fate will not end up like our FE's fate  laugh.gif  dry.gif
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Edit- misunderstood. Damn I am a bloody magnet for defect.

I tot uncle Tim will treat me well but he is just as nasty as Samsung.

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QUOTE(NagaK @ Nov 27 2024, 12:37 AM)
Hi guys quick question...
I'm planning to move my primary S22 to iPhone 16 Pro Max currently using iphone as secondary device

So can I reset to re setup the smartphone as it's needed to transfer WhatsApp chat from Android to iOS.
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like kevintth says, if I get you correctly you want to transfer your whatsapp chats from S22 to an Iphone. In this case the target Iphone must be from fresh. Even if you use Windows apps like Dr. Fone etc.

Those paid apps can transfer selectively like only Whatsapp, or a few other apps but not everything.

If you use the basic tools from Apple to transfer to Android, (I have not tried) I suppose they will bundle as much as possible.

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I came from Samsung in 2019 after Huawei was removed from Google Android, got no choice. Samseng and poor quality go hand in hand with bad software, poor battery life and exynos drinking battery .

I tot Apple is super until iPhone 16. SW bugs here and there, camera hw got issue, send for warranty they also don’t even want to replace the camera module. Come on in 20 days after purchase, I didn’t even have hopes for full phone replacement.

Now I won’t default recommend Apple. Better try Google Pixel. Not that I have any experience.

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