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 Incel should be classified as a disability, not myth | proposal of framework

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dlwk2004
post Jul 17 2024, 09:36 AM

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Survival of the fittest and incels definitely not one of them and hence harder to continue their gene pool. i suggest just throw incels & femcels together and let them sort it out.
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Jul 17 2024, 09:23 AM)
just go cheong pls , if they reject u then it is consider as incel , that my opinion, if they dont want u even u are okayish and affordable money in your hand and take care of your hygiene and health , then it is face problem and fate / destiny issue.
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Incels are human too why should they take the risk of sti.

Sex industry cannot substitute genuine relationship, incel suffering persist and radicalised (some are rich) despite the availability of sex workers in America
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post Jul 17 2024, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 17 2024, 07:14 AM)
Do you accept the well documented theory of natural selection? Then could you tell me whether evolution of human genes is accelerating? Without genetic evolution What explain the exponential increase of innovation in art and science, average height, more outgoing children etc etc? If not driven by natural selection, what’s the mechanism driving it? If you do accept the natural selection theory, then it’s a zero sum game, who’s the loser in this game? Nobody?
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Well in humans it's way more complex than that. Autism is arguably a disadvantage to have yet men in desirable fields of work according to this study are more likely to have autistic children. And apparently it's even higher if both parents are I same field.

"Fathers who worked in engineering were two times as likely to have a child with an autism spectrum disorder (ASD). Those who worked in finance were four times more likely and those who worked in health care occupations were six times more likely to have a child on the autism spectrum"

Sos:https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140515154132.htm#:~:text=Fathers%20who%20worked%20in%20engineering,child%20on%20the%20autism%20spectrum.


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post Jul 17 2024, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 17 2024, 09:36 AM)
Incels are human too why should they take the risk of sti.

Sex industry cannot substitute genuine relationship, incel suffering persist and radicalised (some are rich) despite the availability of sex workers in America
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Two things you are hardworking at
Making excuses and playing victim
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post Jul 17 2024, 09:46 AM

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For a moment I read it as wincest
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post Jul 17 2024, 09:48 AM

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Other OKU also don't get privilege, why should incel get?
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post Jul 17 2024, 09:57 AM

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Or you can run a few marathons, join more social circles and get some friends to advise you what you need to improve.

No one wanting to bed you is not your problem. Making yourself unfuckable, that's your problem.
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QUOTE(HikayatSalju @ Jul 17 2024, 09:48 AM)
Other OKU also don't get privilege, why should incel get?
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Oku got discount at Sunway lagoon
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post Jul 17 2024, 10:02 AM

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Why never write your definition of incel first ?
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post Jul 17 2024, 10:04 AM

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R u asking for tongkat here?

Go gomen pls
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 17 2024, 09:46 AM)
For a moment I read it as wincest
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Same
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The original post intend to bring positive light of what incel is but the messenger post and action somehow proven otherwise is such an ironic thing to see
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post Jul 17 2024, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Jul 17 2024, 10:02 AM)
Why never write your definition of incel first ?
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So he can move goalposts as he sees fit
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post Jul 17 2024, 10:54 AM

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Attitude problem.
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post Jul 17 2024, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 17 2024, 09:35 AM)
At the rate TS goes, might as well propose:
- Pedophilia is disability
- LGBTQKIA++  are disabilities
- Wife beating and gold digging are disabilties
- Drug and alccohol addicts are disabilities
- Scammers like MLM, quick rich schemes like what Penangites love creating are disabilities.

So when these shit vermins that supposed be eradicated and be made public example off when committing crimes are now protected by the constitution over mental defect and cannot be sentenced with 1st degree crimes.

Lawyers, that mostly deserve the deepest depths of hell and made most of the laws and constitution to enrich themselves are going to love this.
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What do u think incels should do? accept their reality as disabled or try escape from being foreveralone?

Once officially labelled as oku, i think no one wants them as partner anymore

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SUSsomewhataut
post Jul 17 2024, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jul 17 2024, 08:48 AM)
You do identify lack of dopamine as a cause but go all in on your "palliative" care stance.

Unless the subject is a quadrapilegic or as uncoordinated as MPKL exercise is the easiet way to get this fix. Motivating a person to start exercising or engaging in team sports is way easier and cheaper.

The increase in physical fitness may also boost the confidence of a otherwise shy person leading to better outcomes when interacting with other ppl

So yes go touch grass
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It is highly unlikely exercise can substitute gratification from having a romantic partner
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 17 2024, 09:35 AM)
At the rate TS goes, might as well propose:
- Pedophilia is disability
- LGBTQKIA++  are disabilities
- Wife beating and gold digging are disabilties
- Drug and alccohol addicts are disabilities
- Scammers like MLM, quick rich schemes like what Penangites love creating are disabilities.

So when these shit vermins that supposed be eradicated and be made public example off when committing crimes are now protected by the constitution over mental defect and cannot be sentenced with 1st degree crimes.

Lawyers, that mostly deserve the deepest depths of hell and made most of the laws and constitution to enrich themselves are going to love this.
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This is slandering, b there is no reason to equate incels with criminals

Goes to show the hostility incels face
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post Jul 17 2024, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Jul 17 2024, 10:02 AM)
Why never write your definition of incel first ?
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Involuntary celibacy is self-explanatory
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post Jul 17 2024, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 17 2024, 11:36 AM)
It is highly unlikely exercise can substitute gratification from having a romantic partner
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Even if the end goal is getting laid the road towards it requires some gradual incremental improvements

Improved physical fitness, more self confidence due to naturally occurring dopamine hits, more social interaction, all of this is a plus

And improves one's life
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 17 2024, 07:14 AM)
Do you accept the well documented theory of natural selection? Then could you tell me whether evolution of human genes is accelerating? Without genetic evolution What explain the exponential increase of innovation in art and science, average height, more outgoing children etc etc? If not driven by natural selection, what’s the mechanism driving it? If you do accept the natural selection theory, then it’s a zero sum game, who’s the loser in this game? Nobody?
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Why do you always focus on natural selection? Genes are just one factor of someone's ability, not all. For an example, even if we are not gifted in sports, we can still train to become competent in that sport, even if we cannot excel and become a professional.

What have you done to improve yourself socially? Another example, many people are not able to do public speaking but with training, they can become very good at it. Everyone has their own strength and weakness, but things like social interaction is just another skill that can be honed with practice and training. You probably claim to be at some level of autism spectrum, but cannot be clinically diagnosed, below is what chatgpt says about social skill training and autism
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Yes, autistic people can be trained in social skills. Social skills training (SST) is a common intervention designed to help individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) improve their social interactions and communication. This training can include a variety of methods and techniques, such as:

    Role-Playing: Practicing different social scenarios to help understand and respond appropriately in real-life situations.

    Modeling: Observing and imitating the social behaviors of others.

    Social Stories: Using short stories to describe social situations and appropriate responses.

    Video Modeling: Watching videos of social interactions and discussing the behaviors observed.

    Group Therapy: Participating in group settings to practice social interactions with peers.

    Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT): Addressing the thoughts and feelings that can impact social interactions.

    Peer-Mediated Interventions: Involving peers in the training process to provide natural social interaction opportunities.

    Parent and Family Training: Educating family members on how to support the development of social skills at home.

The effectiveness of social skills training can vary based on the individual's unique needs, strengths, and the specific methods used. Consistent practice and reinforcement are crucial for the success of these interventions.
I have glanced through your posts and have not seen any evidence of efforts in trying to improve yourself, just more of blaming everything on your so called autism spectrum.

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