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TSgashout
post Jul 12 2024, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jul 12 2024, 11:32 AM)
chii like this thread, very educational.
have TS ever try to find out why she acts the way she acts? or its just futile to know anyway now?
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i did. she is a highly anxious person, and she would magnify the situation 10000x worse than it is. she can easily follow my instructions and do, but she thinks it will be impossible and so difficult.

i don't mind a highly anxious person, but what she does next is the problem - shifting blame, manipulating, gaslighting, and never take responsibility. then fault me. then i cannot accept.

i don't know why she does that - usually these people who have low self esteem? so much so she wants to dictate me? (in her dream!)

QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jul 12 2024, 11:41 AM)
Its not her objective to make it in life.

Just sustain and suck co benefits until she retire.

Union people have this ingrown right to fight for their "democracy".

faster ship her out.
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yeah, she won't make it in life with how she behaves.

we are done with her actually... she is draining!

BUT YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME EARLIER

BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE INFORMED ME PRIOR

bloody, plan changes, and we need to modify stuff to deliver an A grade work, just do it.


so to everyone, don't be fooled by nice decent modest Thai looking woman. You will end up committing to a cra cra.
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post Jul 12 2024, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 12 2024, 11:47 AM)
i did. she is a highly anxious person, and she would magnify the situation 10000x worse than it is. she can easily follow my instructions and do, but she thinks it will be impossible and so difficult.

i don't mind a highly anxious person, but what she does next is the problem - shifting blame, manipulating, gaslighting, and never take responsibility. then fault me. then i cannot accept.

i don't know why she does that - usually these people who have low self esteem? so much so she wants to dictate me? (in her dream!)
yeah, she won't make it in life with how she behaves.

we are done with her actually... she is draining!

BUT YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME EARLIER

BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE INFORMED ME PRIOR

bloody, plan changes, and we need to modify stuff to deliver an A grade work, just do it.
so to everyone, don't be fooled by nice decent modest Thai looking woman. You will end up committing to a cra cra.
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Actually I never had issue with Thai colleagues, they are very pleasant people.

The way you described her, she's exceptional. But reminds me of those self entitled union delegates I encountered in Msia.
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post Jul 12 2024, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jul 12 2024, 12:00 PM)
Actually I never had issue with Thai colleagues, they are very pleasant people.

The way you described her, she's exceptional. But reminds me of those self entitled union delegates I encountered in Msia.
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Thai people are very very very pleasant. I was in Thailand this year, and I can never understand how a Thai could act like this.

You have a thing against union people biggrin.gif
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post Jul 12 2024, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 12 2024, 12:04 PM)
Thai people are very very very pleasant. I was in Thailand this year, and I can never understand how a Thai could act like this.

You have a thing against union people  biggrin.gif
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No I don't have.

I worked with union people for many years.

Its a choice, if you want comfortable life, then blend in like one of them.
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post Jul 12 2024, 12:53 PM

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DOn't play play with Thai. She could put you on curse or charm if you press her too much. Just do per SOP and use documentation well.
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post Jul 12 2024, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(AEROZ @ Jul 12 2024, 12:53 PM)
DOn't play play with Thai. She could put you on curse or charm if you press her too much. Just do per SOP and use documentation well.
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She just nailed herself in the coffin


She replied email said her team leaders (including me) not competent enough to guide her 😂
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post Jul 12 2024, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 12 2024, 02:42 PM)
She just nailed herself in the coffin
She replied email said her team leaders (including me) not competent enough to guide her 😂
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Maybe she hopes the whole team will be sacked and replaced with one that will dance to her tune.

She’s the best!
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post Jul 12 2024, 11:14 PM

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you said it...she has to go. this kinda attitude and work ethics, put her under microscope and everything is documented for her deliverables and what not. Work with HR and document the procedures accordingly.
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post Jul 13 2024, 12:04 AM

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Let her go

Your company has a culture that it needs to maintain

If she is not a good fit for the culture, let her go and keep interviewing until you get a good fit


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post Jul 13 2024, 05:33 AM

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QUOTE(metalfire @ Jul 12 2024, 11:14 PM)
you said it...she has to go. this kinda attitude and work ethics, put her under microscope and everything is documented for her deliverables and what not. Work with HR and document the procedures accordingly.
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she is digging her own grave.

now she asks if the leaders (us) know what we are doing to her (tasks)... and if our expectations have been the same..




so she doesn't know what she has been doing.. after much guidance and she pushes me and others away, then blame us of being incompetent and doubt we can lead her. doh.gif
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post Jul 13 2024, 04:44 PM

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Your case exactly like mine. Same race, same gender and same attitude. I feel you
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post Jul 13 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Karibabihutan @ Jul 13 2024, 04:44 PM)
Your case exactly like mine. Same race, same gender and same attitude. I feel you
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From Thailand too??
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post Jul 13 2024, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 13 2024, 05:33 AM)
she is digging her own grave.

now she asks if the leaders (us) know what we are doing to her (tasks)... and if our expectations have been the same..
so she doesn't know what she has been doing.. after much guidance and she pushes me and others away, then blame us of being incompetent and doubt we can lead her.  doh.gif
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that means she doesn't know what is she doing in the first place. give termination letter straight, waste time.
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post Jul 14 2024, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(metalfire @ Jul 13 2024, 08:28 PM)
that means she doesn't know what is she doing in the first place. give termination letter straight, waste time.
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Yes. Her work doesn't make sense at times and I could see she's very lost.

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post Jul 14 2024, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 13 2024, 04:59 PM)
From Thailand too??
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From Jitra. Useless clerk
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post Jul 14 2024, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Karibabihutan @ Jul 14 2024, 11:07 AM)
From Jitra. Useless clerk
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i don't know how some people will ever survive in the working world, with their attitude, let alone succeed in life.

sorry to hear you have the same issue as me.
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post Jul 30 2024, 01:56 PM

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just read, damn no wonder why ppl seldom / rarely go find thai piap now
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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Jul 8 2024, 10:55 AM)
My experience is that thai english is worse than indian..
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post Aug 1 2024, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 12 2024, 12:04 PM)
Thai people are very very very pleasant. I was in Thailand this year, and I can never understand how a Thai could act like this.

You have a thing against union people  biggrin.gif
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Don't over generalised. Surely every nationality also got bad apple
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post Aug 1 2024, 04:16 PM

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noted. 😜

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so, how did it go after a month from initial post?

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