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 Help me Understand a Rebellous Subordinate

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hoonanoo
post Jul 11 2024, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 6 2024, 04:26 PM)
I manage a group of around 10 people at the moment, and all of whom are ladies. More will be under me including men once the old batches successfully graduates.

Although I am Chinese Asian working in a foreign land, my people have no problem with my style of managing them - direct, highly involved, communicative, fast, high standard, and keeping the group dynamic nice. My team ranges from White, African, to Chinese and no one has issue with me. Most of them really appreciate my professionalism and how I have been guiding them. I also have good relationships with people who aren't in my team yet, But this particular person is cracking my head...

This person
- female, early 30s, Thai national
- when asked for information, she will send me a link, and in the horrible tone of voice, ask me to link and refer to that
- if anything, i need to refer back to her, instead of her updating me what she has done without my knowledge
- any meeting outside work but helps to boost their connection, she answered me - 'I am not answerable to you'
- only wants to meet once a month, online, and according to her time schedule, not mine
- refuses to join my team meetings, and refuse to mingle with other people in my team
- she would mislead information then accuses me of having to agreed that when she only rushed to complete a sloppy work (We can easily see a sloppy work in a glance)
- keeping a lot of paper trail to paint I'm a bad person and she has been doing her best. this also includes providing false info in her email (Other people in my team can easily be my evidence to my work professionalism) (I am also tired of keep correcting her in emails because it will lead to no end, and most times she will just reply 'noted' which I have zero idea what that means)
- sent out meeting invites even though I have told her she needs to work more on her task first before calling for a meeting (Basically just telling me off, who the fish I am, and we will most probably be talking about the same thing from last meeting, a pure waste of time)
- always sends documents attached to cloud and she often makes changes to it (leaving no trail of her terrible work)
- behind her tough look in front of everyone, all I know is she cries and cries like she is a victim of my wrongdoing
- she is a highly anxious person
- manipulative, but half stupid as well - I always get to find out her next moves and foil her MO (and she doesn't like it obviously)
- never takes accountabilities and responsible on her own actions
- gets offended easily and said I disrespected her
- sent a hinted email teaching me how to write properly to her as a sign of respect
- sends work that makes zero sense at all but she will also display such a confident look
- sends a set of work through email and display another sets of document during meetings

This issue has been made known to my other colleagues and we will bring this up to the management next week. I want her off from my team and the whole company, she imo is a pure liability. Managing this team is only a part of my portfolio, I have other work to attend to as well.

I am truly intrigued by what type of person she is. Some said she is rich so she always has it her way. Does anyone has someone like this at the workplace? How do you deal with it?

Thanks for listening my rant.
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Do you work in a heavily unionized environment?

Sounds familiar. Dealt with these union people before.

This kind of people die die also will take it to the end to industrial court nonsense.

If your HR is determined enough: you can institute to get rid of her but you need HR help. Without their support, you are on your own.

Its actually a total waste of time to keep email to this kind of people. When you have so much to do, you have to spend so much time to keep black n white to defend against her never ending email evidence keeping.

She is actually wrong to tell you that meeting can only occur once a month. She is your subordinate, right? how can a subordinate tell her boss that she can only have meeting once a month? Kena her for insubordination.

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Jul 11 2024, 02:53 PM
hoonanoo
post Jul 11 2024, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 11 2024, 03:48 PM)
high union, but it's ok, my side of union is high too.

yup, she seems to be controlling when to have meeting, set meeting agendas, and make decisions herself.

i dunno what gets into her mind she can manage me around, maybe I look younger than her. But even management has said it's an age, race, and gender thing. Sad an asian is taunting another asian on a foreign land. She probably wants an old white male. when people take my kindness for granted  ranting.gif

we will all meet tomorrow together. she has been pulling her strings looking for support, obviously that went 404.

top management has decided she either listens to us or off she goes.  thumbsup.gif
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\definitely has to go.

tell her to buck up and drop her ego, be a team player.

Else...


hoonanoo
post Jul 12 2024, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 11 2024, 04:54 PM)
yes, she is. and she doesn't careeeee
she will never be. but she also say her dream is to be like me (my job my life). but she isn't a team player, isn't keen to learn, fast to blame... she won't make it in life anywhere, sad to say.
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Its not her objective to make it in life.

Just sustain and suck co benefits until she retire.

Union people have this ingrown right to fight for their "democracy".

faster ship her out.
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post Jul 12 2024, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 12 2024, 11:47 AM)
i did. she is a highly anxious person, and she would magnify the situation 10000x worse than it is. she can easily follow my instructions and do, but she thinks it will be impossible and so difficult.

i don't mind a highly anxious person, but what she does next is the problem - shifting blame, manipulating, gaslighting, and never take responsibility. then fault me. then i cannot accept.

i don't know why she does that - usually these people who have low self esteem? so much so she wants to dictate me? (in her dream!)
yeah, she won't make it in life with how she behaves.

we are done with her actually... she is draining!

BUT YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME EARLIER

BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE INFORMED ME PRIOR

bloody, plan changes, and we need to modify stuff to deliver an A grade work, just do it.
so to everyone, don't be fooled by nice decent modest Thai looking woman. You will end up committing to a cra cra.
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Actually I never had issue with Thai colleagues, they are very pleasant people.

The way you described her, she's exceptional. But reminds me of those self entitled union delegates I encountered in Msia.
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post Jul 12 2024, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 12 2024, 12:04 PM)
Thai people are very very very pleasant. I was in Thailand this year, and I can never understand how a Thai could act like this.

You have a thing against union people  biggrin.gif
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No I don't have.

I worked with union people for many years.

Its a choice, if you want comfortable life, then blend in like one of them.

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