i am confused, 3500 cycles, if charges once per day, then isnt it less than 10 years?
Geely’s new battery boasts 50-year service life, 3,500 charge cycles
Geely’s new battery boasts 50-year service life, 3,500 charge cycles
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Jul 4 2024, 10:37 AM
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i am confused, 3500 cycles, if charges once per day, then isnt it less than 10 years?
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Jul 4 2024, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Modasatan @ Jul 4 2024, 11:37 AM) 1 cycle is considered as 0 to 100.If you do charging everyday, it’s never 0 to 100. If you really need to charge everyday from 0 to 100, can you really say it’s not lasting enough if it’s 10 years? This post has been edited by 30624770: Jul 4 2024, 10:41 AM |
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Jul 4 2024, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jul 4 2024, 10:41 AM) 1 cycle is considered as 0 to 100. thks for explaination, but why battery charges between 40~80% not degrading the battery? but charging 0% to 100% degrades it more?If you do charging everyday, it’s never 0 to 100. If you really need to charge everyday from 0 to 100, can you really say it’s not lasting enough if it’s 10 years? |
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Jul 4 2024, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(Modasatan @ Jul 4 2024, 11:44 AM) thks for explaination, but why battery charges between 40~80% not degrading the battery? but charging 0% to 100% degrades it more? This is my understanding. So, you might need to confirm with EV salespeople.40-80% does not mean no degrading to the battery. It just degrades less. It says 3500 time. So, only when your recharging is total up to 100%, it is considered as reduced to 3499. Of course, it's all estimate. Real life usage will of course be different. |
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Jul 4 2024, 10:54 AM
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Jul 4 2024, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(Modasatan @ Jul 4 2024, 10:37 AM) One time charge equal to 500km, 500X3500= 1.7million km. Translate to 50 years of usage. yhtan and max_cavalera liked this post
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Jul 4 2024, 10:56 AM
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Jul 4 2024, 11:00 AM
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Jul 4 2024, 11:03 AM
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Jul 4 2024, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 4 2024, 12:03 PM) ICE cars also do the same thing lar. Can anyone really achieve the so called fuel consumption they advertise? |
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Jul 4 2024, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jul 4 2024, 08:54 AM) It’s just a matter of adoption. If everyone say it’s not matured and wait and see, it will actually slow down the tech development. That’s why EV was going nowhere until Tesla came out. Then China began mass adoption and we see the rapid changes today. Rapid self ignition of Chinese EV more like it. |
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Jul 4 2024, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jul 4 2024, 11:05 AM) ICE cars also do the same thing lar. Can anyone really achieve the so called fuel consumption they advertise? Ada... Lagi bagus dr ads..https://www.tiktok.com/@paultancars/video/7...256450715454736 This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jul 4 2024, 11:09 AM |
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Jul 4 2024, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Modasatan @ Jul 4 2024, 10:44 AM) thks for explaination, but why battery charges between 40~80% not degrading the battery? but charging 0% to 100% degrades it more? At a high state of charge, the battery operates at a higher voltage, which can increase stress on the battery's internal components. Keeping a battery at high charge levels for prolonged periods can accelerate unwanted side reactions in the battery, leading to the formation of a solid electrolyte interphase (SEI) layer on the anode. While some SEI formation is normal, excessive growth can impede battery performance and capacity.Likewise, at a low state of charge, the voltage is lower, which can also stress the battery and lead to degradation of the cell's structure. Allowing a battery to remain at very low charge levels can lead to increased internal resistance and potential for electrolyte decomposition, both of which degrade the battery’s capacity over time. dogbert_chew liked this post
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Jul 4 2024, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 4 2024, 11:08 AM) guess what, you can also hypermile with ev |
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Jul 4 2024, 11:39 AM
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That's just a battery, it's not whether it can last 50 or 500 years, it's whether YOU HAVE ANOTHER 50 YEARS TO LIVE NOT? Lol...
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Jul 4 2024, 11:41 AM
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So the 3.5K cycles only applicable if we are doing 20-80% recharge? Another question is the battery degrade per the cycles, so assuming the after 10% cycle, our range will drop 10%? This is at least applicable to phone battery.
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Jul 4 2024, 11:45 AM
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