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post Jul 4 2024, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(milky12388 @ Jul 4 2024, 02:46 PM)
50 years sure or not, has it gone throught test of time with 50 years?
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Of course it has la, otherwise how can they have issued such a statement.
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post Jul 4 2024, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Jul 4 2024, 04:37 PM)
Just design universal battery shape and size for all EV and easily detachable design. everybody go EV station to swap new battery.
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NIO already has this with their Power Swap stations, 2.5k stations deployed in China and 43 in Europe.
3 mins to swap out a battery, without coming out of the car.

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post Jul 4 2024, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jul 4 2024, 05:57 PM)
NIO already has this with their Power Swap stations, 2.5k stations deployed in China and 43 in Europe.
3 mins to swap out a battery, without coming out of the car.

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Saw this in Shenzhen. Was really fast but it takes up more space than a charging port
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post Jul 4 2024, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Jul 4 2024, 04:39 PM)
So no more oil money to earn from

Malaysia economy to the gutter
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It seems crude oil is only <5% of Malaysia's GDP, I also didn't know this.
And overall it also seems we spend more to import, vs export. Since Madani no money and wanna reduce subsidies, to everyone's chagrin, we really should go all in for renewables to replace our petroleum use.


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post Jul 4 2024, 05:23 PM

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Charge 20 mins or pump petrol 5 mins?
Thanks captain obvious
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post Jul 4 2024, 05:23 PM

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50 years? What’s the point
China will take Taiwan within. 50 years and WW3 start

We all dead but ok battery can last
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post Jul 4 2024, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(milky12388 @ Jul 4 2024, 02:46 PM)
50 years sure or not, has it gone throught test of time with 50 years?
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Read up bathtub curve in reliability testing. Technology exist nowadays to stress test products to know its lifetime

That's how manufacturer can arrive to 1 year, 3 years, 8 years warranty for your TV, Washing Machine, car, etc...
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post Jul 4 2024, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jul 4 2024, 05:00 PM)
Saw this in Shenzhen. Was really fast but it takes up more space than a charging port
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Yes, its really not as space-efficient as the current petrol stations where you can have maybe 4 pumps for the equivalent 1 NIO Power swap Station. But I guess the use case for these swap stations would mainly be at tourist towns/cities (unless hotels/airbnbs start having ports) and on highways (long distance), as day-to-day top-up will still need to be done at home overnight.

Basically its like having less petrol stations around, but everyone has a small one at home for personal use. Don't see why this is not doable.
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post Jul 4 2024, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jul 4 2024, 05:23 PM)
Charge 20 mins or pump petrol 5 mins?
Thanks captain obvious
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You're looking only at refueling/charging time. And BTW there's already batteries that give you 600kms in 10 mins, with further improvements still in progress.
You should also look at total cost of ownership and convenience. Right now charging up is difficult for us cos no one wanna invest in the infrastructure. I'd imagine the 1st time moto-cycles/cars came to Malaysia also no one wanna buy cos no petrol station, and everyone preferred to walk and cycle. Later car breakdown la, tire pancit la...how wanna move the car back home etc...

You can literally reduce your petrol expenditure by 50% (up to 65% even) and also servicing expenses by 97%, just by going to EV. Lower cost of ownership is the motivation for the early adopters who will then help convince more early majority followers, thus convincing infra providers of the ROI to invest more, which will then pull in the laggards and sceptics to the new technology.

Also imagine if you no longer have to visit the petrol stations on your daily commute, since you can charge at home. Only need to visit charging station when go holidaying. That's the future of this tech.

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post Jul 4 2024, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(SuperTuhan @ Jul 4 2024, 03:39 PM)
i am very interested in the battery
then can use in campervan
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Any ev with v2l you can use as campervan now.

Can just sleep with ACs ON whole night wont worry to kill you in sleep.

Theres no engine for it to run. The ACs just sip lil energy from ur battery. If select camp mode, itll go so silent no one around know your sleeping in your own car.

Just need to figure out the portable potty and shower part 😂😂

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post Jul 4 2024, 06:46 PM

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Soon wireless charging EV..
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jul 4 2024, 05:23 PM)
50 years? What’s the point
China will take Taiwan within. 50 years and WW3 start

We all dead but ok battery can last
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after nuke apocalypse it will be Mad Max era with the V8 bois picking up supplies from gastown, no one care about battery anymore
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QUOTE(KevProp @ Jul 4 2024, 09:17 AM)
Agreed.

IMHO, hybrid market will boom first then only EV once they have solve the charging duration & infrastructure

Sometimes I also feel lazy to refill my ICE car LOL so i aint goin to wait 20min to charge the EV
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Personally I also prefer hybrid, some sort like acts as backup if for example in emergency situation battery no power and no power station..

Or if you really rushing on time no time to wait for EV charging, you can atleast rely back on petrol for Hybrid...
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post Jul 5 2024, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(KevProp @ Jul 4 2024, 12:23 PM)
Nope, because i dun like the food at R&R and we stop for WC only.

And why should I plan to go makan place that cater for the EV? LOL

So conclusion we are not willing to sacrifice for the EV. We only could use as little time as possible just to get a vehicle working to get us to the place that we wanted to go, not the other way round.
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Someone posted before BYD seal can go from KL to KB and still got 25% charge left, so i believe should be enough for me to most travelers , but if ur family holiday is to go from KL to Bangkok non-stop except toilet break, den it's not enough, u need a break of 20 min or more to recharge d car

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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Jul 5 2024, 09:56 AM)
Someone posted before BYD seal can go from KL to KB and still got 25% charge left, so i believe should be enough for me to most travelers , but if ur family holiday is to go from KL to Bangkok non-stop except toilet break, den it's not enough, u need a break of 20 min or more to recharge d car
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if bangkok i took flight already.

And i rather wait for their hybrid (range 2k KM as claimed) instead of BYD SEAL
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jul 4 2024, 02:42 PM)
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In 8 months, CATL improved their EV battery charging speed from 400kms in 10 mins to 600kms in 10 mins.
What you're asking for might be achievable by the end of this year.

So now you have free energy (from the sun) extracted by panels which lasts 20-30 years, which is then stored in batteries lasting 50 years, which is then 90%-99% recyclable.
Is this not revolutionary? When the world has this tech, we can finally stop the wars and exploitation over control of oil.
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But if no war, how US gonna support their economy and military spending?
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post Jul 5 2024, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Jul 5 2024, 10:24 AM)
But if no war, how US gonna support their economy and military spending?
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The new wars will be for food and minerals, America will always (try) to find a way. Ukraine the breadbasket of Europe (some say the world) already under American influence, while also managing to reduce a few 100k of resource-consuming-slavs peons so that more remain for the Americans. They attempted a few coup in Congo, Burkina Faso and Bolivia....luckily all failed cos now ppl got Tik Tok and news spreads too fast.

Now you know why US hates China so much, since they are dismantling American control of Oil (with renewables), news/main-stream media/propaganda (with Tik Tok) and the USD (with BRICKS, CIPS etc).
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full hybrid is the best solution

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