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Toyota Altis or Honda Civic, 2024-2025 models
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TStkyong1
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Jul 12 2024, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 12 2024, 11:49 AM) Just to add, due to poor NVH and rattling sound inside the cabin of all Honda cars even fairly new cars, Honda cars are always out of consideration for me despite the nice good looks and impressive spec and performance on paper. I used honda for years, 1000% agreed. no more honda for me. their accord nvh is worse than many japanese c-segment car.
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SportyHandling
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Jul 12 2024, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Jul 12 2024, 02:14 PM) I used honda for years, 1000% agreed. no more honda for me. their accord nvh is worse than many japanese c-segment car. My worst experience was sitting inside an Accord back in 2013 or 2014, give and take, from KL to a small town in JB and then back to KL again. A business associate drove the car during a company trip. The worst experience was when the vehicle exited the highway and went into the small kampung roads. It's just terrible. Anyway I wouldn't repeat the experience as I posted it on the forum 2 or 3 years ago, and it created a ruckus especially with Honda owners or fans.
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DS51
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Jul 12 2024, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 9 2024, 10:03 AM) Fuel economy poor for N/A engine? I might disagree as it is subjective and depends on driving style. Try do some highway or track driving with rpm over 3000~4000rpm (140km/h~160km/h) and go against a similar class N/A 1.8 Altis or Mazda 2.0 for same range. If turbo engine always on boost, the fuel economy will not be good and also shorten the service intervals, only when you always light foot at lower rpm then got the fuel economy advantage. Very high speed for sure NA got its own advantage. but to be honest. how many times people driving fast compare to them drive low to mid speed. some people even never drive fast. and turbo technology still benefit majority people. only small percentage of speed maniac people still love large na. Even those speed maniac, how often they go high speed compare to low speed. thats why engineer downsizing.
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littlefire
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Jul 12 2024, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Jul 12 2024, 05:30 PM) Very high speed for sure NA got its own advantage. but to be honest. how many times people driving fast compare to them drive low to mid speed. some people even never drive fast. and turbo technology still benefit majority people. only small percentage of speed maniac people still love large na. Even those speed maniac, how often they go high speed compare to low speed. thats why engineer downsizing. Well, you ask those youngster driving VW & Honda, most of the time on highway i saw they drive more faster than anyone else and try to outpace the Myvi.
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ayamxxx
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Jul 13 2024, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Jul 12 2024, 02:14 PM) I used honda for years, 1000% agreed. no more honda for me. their accord nvh is worse than many japanese c-segment car. Currently own the same model as u, yes poor NVH for all Alor Gajah made. Bought x70 ckd for wife use, NVH miles2 better than HM. First and last HM for me, now thanks to steering rack issues persistent on current gen HM model
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em_on
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Jul 13 2024, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 12 2024, 03:50 PM) My worst experience was sitting inside an Accord back in 2013 or 2014, give and take, from KL to a small town in JB and then back to KL again. A business associate drove the car during a company trip. The worst experience was when the vehicle exited the highway and went into the small kampung roads. It's just terrible. Anyway I wouldn't repeat the experience as I posted it on the forum 2 or 3 years ago, and it created a ruckus especially with Honda owners or fans. made you puke during the journey?
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Quazacolt
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Jul 14 2024, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Jul 12 2024, 02:14 PM) I used honda for years, 1000% agreed. no more honda for me.. Why this thread then?
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