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Toyota Altis or Honda Civic, 2024-2025 models
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DS51
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Jul 5 2024, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 2 2024, 10:24 AM) if you are comparing comfort/NVH, same category Toyota is the better 1. Even Nissan also did better than Honda, not sure why a lot of people so crazy about Honda. For me, buy Honda is about the Type R, VTEC engine, the rest really meh.. because other competitors give crap engine. honda line up at least give newer 1.5 turbo engine while other competitors still give 10 years ago naturally aspirated engine with poor fuel economy.
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DS51
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Jul 12 2024, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 9 2024, 10:03 AM) Fuel economy poor for N/A engine? I might disagree as it is subjective and depends on driving style. Try do some highway or track driving with rpm over 3000~4000rpm (140km/h~160km/h) and go against a similar class N/A 1.8 Altis or Mazda 2.0 for same range. If turbo engine always on boost, the fuel economy will not be good and also shorten the service intervals, only when you always light foot at lower rpm then got the fuel economy advantage. Very high speed for sure NA got its own advantage. but to be honest. how many times people driving fast compare to them drive low to mid speed. some people even never drive fast. and turbo technology still benefit majority people. only small percentage of speed maniac people still love large na. Even those speed maniac, how often they go high speed compare to low speed. thats why engineer downsizing.
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