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post Apr 27 2024, 04:52 PM, updated 2y ago

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Wanita lintas jalan punca nahas maut direman dua hari

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KUANTAN: Seorang wanita berusia 35 tahun yang memberhentikan kenderaan dipandu sebelum melintas jalan sehingga mengakibatkan kemalangan maut di KM98.6 Lebuhraya Pantai Timur 1 (LPT1) arah timur semalam, direman dua hari.

Ketua Polis Daerah Temerloh, Asisten Komisioner Mazlan Hassan, berkata penumpang kenderaan wanita terbabit iaitu seorang lelaki warga China berusia 37 tahun turut direman tiga hari bagi membantu siasatan.

"Mereka direman bermula hari ini bagi siasatan lanjut susulan kemalangan yang membabitkan seorang lelaki maut di lokasi kejadian," katanya ketika dihubungi di sini, hari ini.


Dalam kejadian kira-kira jam 4 petang semalam, seorang lelaki berusia 34 tahun yang bertugas sebagai pemuzik di Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL) maut selepas motosikal berkuasa tinggi ditunggangnya merempuh kenderaan pacuan empat roda jenis Mitsubishi Triton.

Mazlan berkata, siasatan awal mendapati kemalangan berlaku sejurus pemandu kenderaan pacuan empat roda itu menekan brek mengejut selepas wanita terbabit yang memandu kenderaan utiliti sukan jenis Mitsubishi Pajero Sport berhenti di bahu kiri jalan sebelum melintas ke kanan laluan itu.


"Dalam masa yang sama, motosikal jenis Suzuki GSX-R1000 ditunggang mangsa datang dari arah belakang dan terus melanggar pacuan empat roda itu, sebelum mangsa terjatuh di lorong laju manakala motosikalnya tercampak ke belakang kenderaan itu," katanya.


Kes disiasat mengikut Seksyen 304(A) Kanun Keseksaan kerana cuai sehingga menyebabkan kematian, katanya. – BERNAMA
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post Apr 27 2024, 04:53 PM

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Damn the rider is musician
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post Apr 27 2024, 04:55 PM

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Later ktards will say the news is racist....
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post Apr 27 2024, 04:56 PM

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I see the pickup slowing down not sudden brake

TIL govt musician is nice job but rip.
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post Apr 27 2024, 04:56 PM

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Why they memecut speeding on road. They should know on highway will have people crossing. 6 years 6k punishment!!!
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post Apr 27 2024, 04:57 PM

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Couple argues, woman triggered and make a sudden emergency break then walk away?
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post Apr 27 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(perfectedservice @ Apr 27 2024, 04:56 PM)
I see the pickup slowing down not sudden brake

TIL govt musician is nice job but rip.
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It's in the fast lane coming to a full stop... Definitely considered as a sudden stop. I see no reason as to why she should be doing so.
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:01 PM

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niocole why u do this
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nothing will happen to them.....at most saman
just stop riding that fast.....it's perfectly avoidable....your eyes can't move as fast as your bike is moving
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:04 PM

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No no no, woman who crossed the road not from the pick up truck who slowed down...

Couple who argued already park beside, but the crazy woman entah buat apa run to middle of the road macam mau suicide..



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post Apr 27 2024, 05:04 PM

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what in the mainland drama is this.

so dramatic, stop car, cross road somemore.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 27 2024, 04:59 PM)
It's in the fast lane coming to a full stop... Definitely considered as a sudden stop. I see no reason as to why she should be doing so.
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If you cant stop when theres obstacle in front, then u dont deserve that speed.
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:06 PM

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Got one video last year. Two local Malaysian women just parked their car in the middle of the road at traffic light junction and walked away to maybe buy something at the shops nearby.

Many gila orang now.
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:06 PM

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Yup, no mention of motorcycle speed.
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The Suzuki GSX-R 1000 price in the Malaysia starts between RM 73,165 - 96,900 . it is available in 2 colors, 3 variants in the Malaysia. The GSX-R 1000 is powered by a 999.8 cc engine, and has a 6-Speed gearbox. The Suzuki GSX-R 1000 has a seating height of 825 mm and kerb weight of 200 kg.



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QUOTE(PeopleOfPerlis @ Apr 27 2024, 04:52 PM)
Wanita lintas jalan punca nahas maut direman dua hari

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KUANTAN: Seorang wanita berusia 35 tahun yang memberhentikan kenderaan dipandu sebelum melintas jalan sehingga mengakibatkan kemalangan maut di KM98.6 Lebuhraya Pantai Timur 1 (LPT1) arah timur semalam, direman dua hari.

Ketua Polis Daerah Temerloh, Asisten Komisioner Mazlan Hassan, berkata penumpang kenderaan wanita terbabit iaitu seorang lelaki warga China berusia 37 tahun turut direman tiga hari bagi membantu siasatan.

"Mereka direman bermula hari ini bagi siasatan lanjut susulan kemalangan yang membabitkan seorang lelaki maut di lokasi kejadian," katanya ketika dihubungi di sini, hari ini.
Dalam kejadian kira-kira jam 4 petang semalam, seorang lelaki berusia 34 tahun yang bertugas sebagai pemuzik di Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL) maut selepas motosikal berkuasa tinggi ditunggangnya merempuh kenderaan pacuan empat roda jenis Mitsubishi Triton.

Mazlan berkata, siasatan awal mendapati kemalangan berlaku sejurus pemandu kenderaan pacuan empat roda itu menekan brek mengejut selepas wanita terbabit yang memandu kenderaan utiliti sukan jenis Mitsubishi Pajero Sport berhenti di bahu kiri jalan sebelum melintas ke kanan laluan itu.
"Dalam masa yang sama, motosikal jenis Suzuki GSX-R1000 ditunggang mangsa datang dari arah belakang dan terus melanggar pacuan empat roda itu, sebelum mangsa terjatuh di lorong laju manakala motosikalnya tercampak ke belakang kenderaan itu," katanya.
Kes disiasat mengikut Seksyen 304(A) Kanun Keseksaan kerana cuai sehingga menyebabkan kematian, katanya. – BERNAMA
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There is a difference between Cina and China..... so.....
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I'm surprised no one scold motobodo cos involved China woman, so all blame ketebodo
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:11 PM

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how many seconds from the triton stopped, until the bike crashed ? some ppl say avoidable, or too fast?
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:14 PM

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If people always crash into parked lorries on the emergency lane side, there is no way the motobike could avoid or slow down on the fast lane.
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:14 PM

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the couple mostly will only receive fine crossing highway like that.

accident smack on the back is bike to trition.

looks like biker have already tekan brek mengejut at last minute when he realize holy shiat that pick up is stationary, tail went up first as he was crashing like that towards the pick up truck.

unfortunate for the biker to go like that.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:11 PM)
how many seconds from the triton stopped, until the bike crashed ? some ppl say avoidable, or too fast?
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If straight highway, sometimes even if follow speed limit, if no jam nothing also very scary to see car sudden or full stop. Almost feel like cannot brake on time.

The fact that Triton still manage to turn on hazard light is impressive liao....

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post Apr 27 2024, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 27 2024, 05:14 PM)
If retarded always crash into parked lorries on the emergency lane side, there is no way the motobodo could avoid or slow down on the fast lane.
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 27 2024, 05:04 PM)
No no no, woman who crossed the road not from the pick up truck who slowed down...

Couple who argued already park beside, but the crazy woman entah buat apa run to middle of the road macam mau suicide..


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From this angle, can see got enough space to weave around the 4wd.
Rider skill issue. Dont speed if cannot handle the speed.
What a waste of a gixxer

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:11 PM)
how many seconds from the triton stopped, until the bike crashed ? some ppl say avoidable, or too fast?
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Yes this accident is avoidable

The triton should move to left instead of hogging right lane when there is no obstable
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:22 PM

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Brek mengejut 404.

The pickup has been slowing down for a good 12s and moved for more than 50m from the braking point before the bike hits him.

Enough time for normal people to react.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:22 PM)
Brek mengejut 404.

The pickup has been slowing down for a good 12s and moved for more than 50m from the braking point before the bike hits him.

Enough time for normal people to react.
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The bike probably dreaming until last minute realise

Sometimes I drive car also goes into auto mode dreaming for few seconds
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SPEED KILLS


superbike, kapzai , hailat , Evo10 , wat ever , you speed you are prone to kena , what if you ride at 90 or 110 , legal speed , you would have time to avoid this mess
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:28 PM

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Lol I just only watch the video, from the truck slowing down to point of impact I have enough time to dig my nose clean but the rempit didn't even slow down?
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 27 2024, 05:04 PM)
No no no, woman who crossed the road not from the pick up truck who slowed down...

Couple who argued already park beside, but the crazy woman entah buat apa run to middle of the road macam mau suicide..


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this is what happens when their kind are given cars equipped with OKU card. An absolute menace to other road users
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post Apr 27 2024, 05:29 PM

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Didn't even slow
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 05:22 PM)
Yes this accident is avoidable

The triton should move to left instead of hogging right lane when there is no obstable
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:22 PM)
Brek mengejut 404.

The pickup has been slowing down for a good 12s and moved for more than 50m from the braking point before the bike hits him.

Enough time for normal people to react.
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hope triton not penalized for this , innocent af.. done everything he could

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:29 PM)
hope triton not penalized for this , innocent af.. done everything he could
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He only slow down . He didn't do much

I feel that he should move to the left
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manada lintas jalan...Bernama penipu scammer
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:19 PM)
Kekwa
From this angle, can see got enough space to weave around the 4wd.
Rider skill issue. Dont speed if cannot handle the speed.
What a waste of a gixxer
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rider only had B2 not B full
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Apr 27 2024, 05:43 PM)
rider only had B2 not B full
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But actually his skills only grade D!
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 05:30 PM)
He only slow down . He didn't do much

I feel that he should move to the left
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You cannot blame the triton

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See the triton distance from the recording car. Its one car distance.
Do you dare to switch lane abruptly with only 1 car distance clearance?
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macam ni go rompak then punca rompakkan due expensive price
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:19 PM)
Kekwa
From this angle, can see got enough space to weave around the 4wd.
Rider skill issue. Dont speed if cannot handle the speed.
What a waste of a gixxer
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:22 PM)
Brek mengejut 404.

The pickup has been slowing down for a good 12s and moved for more than 50m from the braking point before the bike hits him.

Enough time for normal people to react.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 05:26 PM)
The bike probably dreaming until last minute realise

Sometimes I drive car also goes into auto mode dreaming for few seconds
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As usual, malaysian know how to speed only. and clueless, not knowing how to react to emergency.

everyone know how to speeding, but not everyone know how to stop.

when driving fast, stopping much more crucial than acceleration.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 05:46 PM)
You cannot blame the triton

user posted image

See the triton distance from the  recording car. Its one car distance.
Do you dare to switch lane abruptly with only 1 car distance clearance?
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I got another theory

Maybe the triton see the Superbike and scared the Superbike swerve to the left

So better stop and let the Superbike choose his destination

Seems like Superbike choose final destination
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QUOTE(Chrix @ Apr 27 2024, 05:47 PM)
macam ni go rompak then punca rompakkan due expensive price
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You are not wrong also

Desperate people do desperate stuffs

Here punca dia is the woman, eventho the rider could avoid his own death if he was more careful

Or maybe another analogy pergi rompak bank mati kena tembak, punca dari kemelesetan ekonomi, but the bank robber could avoided death if he knew how to rob a bank properly

Liddis can or not?
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So, can we ban all these pendatang from here?

Based on /k logic. whole citizen/religion/race should be ban or kick out

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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Apr 27 2024, 05:52 PM)
So, can we all these pendatang from here?

Based on /k logic. whole citizen/religion/race should be ban or kick out
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You are retarded
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 27 2024, 04:59 PM)
It's in the fast lane coming to a full stop... Definitely considered as a sudden stop. I see no reason as to why she should be doing so.
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Nampak kuceng tepi jalan nak turun selamat kan kuceng?
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QUOTE(perfectedservice @ Apr 27 2024, 04:56 PM)
I see the pickup slowing down not sudden brake

TIL govt musician is nice job but rip.
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The emergency hazard light was even triggered, definitely the driver hit the brake as hard a she could.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 05:26 PM)
The bike probably dreaming until last minute realise

Sometimes I drive car also goes into auto mode dreaming for few seconds
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What do you mean by going into auto mode dreaming few seconds ?
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its your life. just dont drive fast la stupid


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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 27 2024, 06:08 PM)
What do you mean by going into auto mode dreaming few seconds ?
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Zone out bro

Sometime got problem on that day and keep thinking about that problem while driving until zone out
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 27 2024, 04:59 PM)
It's in the fast lane coming to a full stop... Definitely considered as a sudden stop. I see no reason as to why she should be doing so.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Apr 27 2024, 06:01 PM)
Nampak kuceng tepi jalan nak turun selamat kan kuceng?
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You mean the Triton right?

I suspect the Triton driver coming to a stop because he saw the superbike coming in at very high speed behind

So he stop to let the superbike to swerve left

He don't want to move to let superbike know he can choose his destination to swerve left if cannot stop.

Unfortunately superbike choose final destination by hard braking
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 05:55 PM)
You are retarded
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Why? Im just asking a question based on the majority consensus here
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Apr 27 2024, 06:19 PM)
Why? Im just asking a question based on the majority consensus here
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What is the consensus? Superbike too fast?
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Apr 27 2024, 06:19 PM)
Why? Im just asking a question based on the majority consensus here
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What's the question?

It's missing a kata kerja
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 27 2024, 06:21 PM)
What's the question?

It's missing a kata kerja
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Alot of ktard fail in critical thinking.

The woman crossed the highway. That is wrong.

But the bike's accident was the indirect cause, not a direct cause. So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike.

If the scenario was different, say the triton experienced a catastrophic engine failure and come to total halt, will the result be different. Will the result be different? Answer this.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 06:26 PM)
Alot of ktard fail in critical thinking.

The woman crossed the highway. That is wrong.

But the bike's accident was the indirect cause, not a direct cause. So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike.

If the scenario was different, say the triton experienced a catastrophic engine failure and come to total halt, will the result be different. Will the result be different? Answer this.
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Yes true

The onus is on the superbike

The timing of the woman goes back to the side of the road, the Triton braking and moving again, it's already very very long time

If the superbike ride at 110km/h still might survive
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Salahan no red light break from truck
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 06:26 PM)
Alot of ktard fail in critical thinking.

The woman crossed the highway. That is wrong.

But the bike's accident was the indirect cause, not a direct cause. So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike.

If the scenario was different, say the triton experienced a catastrophic engine failure and come to total halt, will the result be different. Will the result be different? Answer this.
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Thank god you are not a lawyer
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Menurut beliau, Selangor juga mencatatkan jumlah kematian paling tinggi dengan 2,092 orang, kemudian Johor (2,010) dan Perak (1,321).
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 06:14 PM)
Zone out bro

Sometime got problem on that day and keep thinking about that problem while driving until zone out
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Very dangerous because you are not paying full attention on the road. Before going on the road, leave problems aside and focus on the road instead. Once you reached your destination, then you can focus on the problem again.

Perhaps that's what the Triton driver did. Didn't focus on the road but driving slowly and focusing on the crazy ass woman. Maybe that's what the deceased rider did too.

Although I have a very powerful ride now, I must remember this lesson for my own safety, get off the fast lane ASAP.

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Bangsat bila org tanah besar datang sini
sebab tanah besar, yg kat malaysia ni jadi bodoh
Kasi jail yg perempuan dan hantar balik laki tu ke tanah besar
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So this is a case of nak bunuh diri but menyusahkan orang lain?

Why not go far2 away and don't trouble others.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 06:30 PM)
Yes true

The onus is on the superbike

The timing of the woman goes back to the side of the road, the Triton braking and moving again, it's already very very long time

If the superbike ride at 110km/h still might survive
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 27 2024, 06:30 PM)
Thank god you are not a lawyer
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 27 2024, 06:37 PM)
Very dangerous because you are not paying full attention on the road. Before going on the road, leave problems aside and focus on the road instead. Once you reached your destination, then you can focus on the problem again.

Perhaps that's what the Triton driver did. Didn't focus on the road but driving slowly and focusing on the crazy ass woman. Maybe that's what the deceased rider did too.

Although I have a very powerful ride now, I must remember this lesson for my own safety, get off the fast lane ASAP.
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Bangsat bila org tanah besar datang sini
sebab tanah besar, yg kat malaysia ni jadi bodoh
Kasi jail yg perempuan dan hantar balik laki tu ke tanah besar
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tanah besar adalah penyokong tegar palestin

tanah besar tuh orang kiter
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The timing itself already enought to warn non-speeding above 110km/h user

RIP to those go beyond 110km/h.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 06:26 PM)
Alot of ktard fail in critical thinking.

The woman crossed the highway. That is wrong.

But the bike's accident was the indirect cause, not a direct cause. So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike.

If the scenario was different, say the triton experienced a catastrophic engine failure and come to total halt, will the result be different. Will the result be different? Answer this.
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Outcome would be the same kot. But maybe Triton driver would be charged for not keeping his vehicle roadworthy, causing death.

It we reversed the type of vehicles - bike was in front , it stalled or did e-braking and kena butsek by Triton. I wonder who would be charged.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 06:30 PM)
Yes true

The onus is on the superbike

The timing of the woman goes back to the side of the road, the Triton braking and moving again, it's already very very long time

If the superbike ride at 110km/h still might survive
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Because in forums the discussion tends to be muddied and complicated.

Objective problem and rootcause analysis can be applied in all aspect of life.

The objective root cause can be defined as the triton was prepared and dealt with unexpected road obstacles. The bike was not prepared. You can say that the woman was the incident that exposed this weakness. The weakness or problem was always there.
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Yer the bike first thing leka. If he dunno how to ride then should ride fast. There was way too many seconds in that video for a biker not to notice. If its 2-3 seconds then the lady and pick up fault. This is a goot 9-10 seconds. Also
Pick up turned on emergency signal. Pity the survivors have to face all this for speeder who has zero skills
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 06:58 PM)
Because in forums the discussion tends to be muddied and complicated.

Objective problem and rootcause analysis can be applied in all aspect of life.

The objective root cause can be defined as the triton was prepared and dealt with unexpected road obstacles. The bike was not prepared. You can say that the woman was the incident that exposed this weakness. The weakness or problem was always there.
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its like in factory

no fire extinguisher

if no fire, then factory survive

if suddenly got fire emergency, whole factory will burn down

fire emergency expose the weakness of no fire extinguisher

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 07:02 PM)
its like in factory

no fire extinguisher

if no fire, then factory survive

if suddenly got fire emergency, who factory will burn down

fire emergency expose the weakness and no fire extinguisher
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Exactly.
Objective failure analysis
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As usual insults but no point to make
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I made a point that you are an idiot, or is it you are too idiotic to notice? I guess the latter
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 27 2024, 07:05 PM)
I made a point that you are an idiot, or is it you are too idiotic to notice? I guess the latter
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This kind of staments just reflect on you rather than me.
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Oh the idiot doeth speaketh
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I presented my argument in a conscise way. All you did was hurl insult. At least we know you are from the camp that thinks with emotions.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:22 PM)
Brek mengejut 404.

The pickup has been slowing down for a good 12s and moved for more than 50m from the braking point before the bike hits him.

Enough time for normal people to react.
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I presented my argument in a conscise way. All you did was hurl insult. At least we know you are from the camp that thinks with emotions.
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Oh so the idiot just realized he got insulted? ROFLMAO
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But video show nobody crossing.
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Oh so the idiot just realized he got insulted? ROFLMAO
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:11 PM)
how many seconds from the triton stopped, until the bike crashed ? some ppl say avoidable, or too fast?
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I'm  tempted to see how long tou can keep this childish tantrum
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 27 2024, 07:13 PM)
But video show nobody crossing.
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Because the woman already finish crossing back to the roadside

After many second only the accident happens
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is the triton involved a manual-transmission or an auto-transmission?

it might be that there is delay in picking up speed due to the triton's driver having to readjust his manual transmission.

while some ktards who have lived oh-so comfortably chose to blame slow reaction, including blaming for supposedly not moving to left lane quick enough to their standard.

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Based on the video, don’t think can blame the woman.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:11 PM)
how many seconds from the triton stopped, until the bike crashed ? some ppl say avoidable, or too fast?
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Super avoidable. The 4x4 stop around 5 seconds before the bike crash into it. The rider rode too fast and break last minute until the bike actually flew into the 4x4 and not actually crash into it.
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Apr 27 2024, 07:21 PM)
Super avoidable. The 4x4 stop around 5 seconds before the bike crash into it. The rider rode too fast and break last minute until the bike actually flew into the 4x4 and not actually crash into it.
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Yeah, and it seems that the road leading to the spot has a slight curve, reducing your time to respond. Deswai liao, ride responsibly.
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Apr 27 2024, 07:19 PM)
is the triton involved a manual-transmission or an auto-transmission?

it might be that there is delay in picking up speed due to the triton's driver having to readjust his manual transmission.

while some ktards who have lived oh-so comfortably chose to blame slow reaction, including blaming for supposedly not moving to left lane quick enough to their standard.

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Tipu.

Manual transmission can react faster

Also

Triton cannot move left

Triton see the superbike so fast

If the superbike swerve left to avoid Triton and Triton also swerve left, it will be accident

The best is to remain stationary and hope the bike swerve left or stop by itself
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Motor was likely speeding
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Apr 27 2024, 07:25 PM)
Motor was likely speeding
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bolehland/comments...nt=share_button

As someone mentioned before, the bike flipped before hitting the Triton. See the video at the reddit link above. (Sorry, noob here, don't know how to embed video).

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user posted image

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bolehland/comments...nt=share_button

As someone mentioned before, the bike flipped before hitting the Triton. See the video at the reddit link above. (Sorry, noob here, don't know how to embed video).
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So?
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 07:24 PM)
Tipu.

Manual transmission can react faster

Also

Triton cannot move left

Triton see the superbike so fast

If the superbike swerve left to avoid Triton and Triton also swerve left, it will be accident

The best is to remain stationary and hope the bike swerve left or stop by itself
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i am asking lah. i'm not blaming the triton, unlike some hard-headed ktards who do.
i am not vehicle-model expert.

i am only thinking of possible reason for slowly picking up speed. that's why i ask if maybe it's manual transmission. probably driver wad like "wtf is going on", reassess his surroundings including noticing approaching cam car, then only readjust his gear.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 27 2024, 07:18 PM)
Firstly, type slowly and make sure you do not make any typo mistakes before hitting that reply button. Even when you are angry. I can feel you. Life is hard. But, it’s even harder when you are the idiot who cannot type properly ROFLMAO.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 06:26 PM)
Alot of ktard fail in critical thinking.

The woman crossed the highway. That is wrong.

But the bike's accident was the indirect cause, not a direct cause. So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike.

If the scenario was different, say the triton experienced a catastrophic engine failure and come to total halt, will the result be different. Will the result be different? Answer this.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 07:02 PM)
its like in factory

no fire extinguisher

if no fire, then factory survive

if suddenly got fire emergency, whole factory will burn down

fire emergency expose the weakness of no fire extinguisher
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Interesting analogy, and in both I can say that
- the woman crossed the highway dangerously (which is also illegal, right?)
- the lack of fire extinguisher is a breach of building safety SOP (which is also illegal, right?)

Now personally, I totally would not fault the Triton because the driver also did everything correctly: braked on time, did not change lane abruptly into the cam car, turned on hazard lights, did not speed up because a crazy bitch was running around, she was unpredictable. Biker on the other hand braked in the last seconds but he could've braked way earlier or swerved to avoid. The hazard lights were on more than 5 seconds and he only hard braked which flipped the bike on the last 2 seconds or so. His mistake cost his life, but it could've been prevented if the woman didn't break the law.

Take the factory fire analogy, let's say someone made a mistake at the factory and caused the fire, and the person was not able to escape because he accidentally locked himself in the factory. Same thing, his mistake cost his life, but it could've been prevented if the factory was properly equipped i.e. did not break the law.

In the end, it depends on who's suing who. Let's just imagine if the victims who made the mistake are alive (and therefore can be held liable). I bet everyone would be furious if the Triton owner decides to sues the biker for speeding and not braking on time, ultimately damaging his car. Same like factory, the owner sues the victim for making the mistake and burn down his factory.

I think there's a "correct answer" here that one is "more wrong" than the other, adding with the fact that, the other wrong is already dead, he already paid the ultimate price.
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Apr 27 2024, 07:31 PM)
i am asking lah. i'm not blaming the triton, unlike some hard-headed ktards who do.
i am not vehicle-model expert.

i am only thinking of possible reason for slowly picking up speed. that's why i ask if maybe it's manual transmission. probably driver wad like "wtf is going on", reassess his surroundings including noticing approaching cam car, then only readjust his gear.
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I think we all just talking crap here

So many possibilities

Unfortunately for superbiker he is the one in losing end
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 07:30 PM)
So?
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Watch the speed at which the bike is going. Compared to the other surrounding vehicles.

It is really unfortunate situation that the bike didn't manage to stop safely.
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QUOTE(Takudan @ Apr 27 2024, 07:34 PM)
Interesting analogy, and in both I can say that
- the woman crossed the highway dangerously (which is also illegal, right?)
- the lack of fire extinguisher is a breach of building safety SOP (which is also illegal, right?)

Now personally, I totally would not fault the Triton because the driver also did everything correctly: braked on time, did not change lane abruptly into the cam car, turned on hazard lights, did not speed up because a crazy bitch was running around, she was unpredictable. Biker on the other hand braked in the last seconds but he could've braked way earlier or swerved to avoid. The hazard lights were on more than 5 seconds and he only hard braked which flipped the bike on the last 2 seconds or so. His mistake cost his life, but it could've been prevented if the woman didn't break the law.

Take the factory fire analogy, let's say someone made a mistake at the factory and caused the fire, and the person was not able to escape because he accidentally locked himself in the factory. Same thing, his mistake cost his life, but it could've been prevented if the factory was properly equipped i.e. did not break the law.

In the end, it depends on who's suing who. Let's just imagine if the victims who made the mistake are alive (and therefore can be held liable). I bet everyone would be furious if the Triton owner decides to sues the biker for speeding and not braking on time, ultimately damaging his car. Same like factory, the owner sues the victim for making the mistake and burn down his factory.

I think there's a "correct answer" here that one is "more wrong" than the other, adding with the fact that, the other wrong is already dead, he already paid the ultimate price.
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I think the superbiker think his bike is super stable and can stop within 1 second due to high end braking system in the bike

He didn't realise it's a bike. It can flip side way and in this case, flip up.


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QUOTE(iotbot000 @ Apr 27 2024, 07:37 PM)
Watch the speed at which the bike is going. Compared to the other surrounding vehicles.

It is really unfortunate situation that the bike didn't manage to stop safely.
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Yes, it's unfortunate

Better ride within speed limit
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No no no, woman who crossed the road not from the pick up truck who slowed down...

Couple who argued already park beside, but the crazy woman entah buat apa run to middle of the road macam mau suicide..


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Ok, can see the moto guy not paying attention, riding so fast, eyes ‘kat mana? Big bikes have brakes that can slow sown or total stop plus why these bikers need to be on 3rd lane? Toll pon tak bayar, ride macam own the rode, forgot masa learning time, bikes need to keep left unless overtaking. Sorry dieded but traffic rules need to be followed.

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ini baru motor, imagine cars going 300km/h. I have seen those cars even though I didn't use north south highway that much last time
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 07:38 PM)
I think the superbiker think his bike is super stable and can stop within 1 second due to high end braking system in the bike

He didn't realise it's a bike. It can flip side way and in this case, flip up.
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Don't speed even if you have this kind of skill level because everything has a risk...

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Apr 27 2024, 07:34 PM)
Interesting analogy, and in both I can say that
- the woman crossed the highway dangerously (which is also illegal, right?)
- the lack of fire extinguisher is a breach of building safety SOP (which is also illegal, right?)

Now personally, I totally would not fault the Triton because the driver also did everything correctly: braked on time, did not change lane abruptly into the cam car, turned on hazard lights, did not speed up because a crazy bitch was running around, she was unpredictable. Biker on the other hand braked in the last seconds but he could've braked way earlier or swerved to avoid. The hazard lights were on more than 5 seconds and he only hard braked which flipped the bike on the last 2 seconds or so. His mistake cost his life, but it could've been prevented if the woman didn't break the law.

Take the factory fire analogy, let's say someone made a mistake at the factory and caused the fire, and the person was not able to escape because he accidentally locked himself in the factory. Same thing, his mistake cost his life, but it could've been prevented if the factory was properly equipped i.e. did not break the law.

In the end, it depends on who's suing who. Let's just imagine if the victims who made the mistake are alive (and therefore can be held liable). I bet everyone would be furious if the Triton owner decides to sues the biker for speeding and not braking on time, ultimately damaging his car. Same like factory, the owner sues the victim for making the mistake and burn down his factory.

I think there's a "correct answer" here that one is "more wrong" than the other, adding with the fact that, the other wrong is already dead, he already paid the ultimate price.
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The woman was no longer on the road when the biker came on the scene. So is it fair to say she is the direct cause ? Bear in mind the obstacle the biker faced was the triton and not the girl. The triton was on his way to restart his journey signifying conditions were stabilized.

At the end of the day the obstacle is irrelevant. It could be a stalled triton, a python or a pothole that cause the traffic to stop. The outcome given the same distance and time lapse would likely expose the unpreparedness.

For sure the woman was also reckless.


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Imho the pick-up truck had enough space and time to slow down and move off the right lane.
I wouldn’t ever want to stop dead in the right lane and be the first vehicle in a multi car pile up.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 07:49 PM)
The woman was no longer on the road when the biker came on the scene. So is it fair to say she is the direct cause ? Bear in mind the obstacle the biker faced was the triton and not the girl.  The triton was on his way to restart his journey signifying conditions were stabilized.

At the end of the day the obstacle is irrelevant. It could be a stalled triton, a python or a pothole that cause the traffic to stop. The outcome given the same distance and time lapse would likely expose the unpreparedness.

For sure the woman was also reckless.
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for sure that girl salah lah, no need plotek la.

but that moto super fast, dash cam car can slow down in time, why moto can't at least slow down. the hit was in full speed.

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QUOTE(commonsense @ Apr 27 2024, 07:54 PM)
for sure that girl salah lah, no need plotek la.

but that moto super fast, dash cam car can slow down in time, why moto can't at least slow down. the hit was in full speed.
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I stated very clearly she salah. The essence of the question is wrong on what count ?
Traffic offence or killing a life ?
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 05:51 PM)
I got another theory

Maybe the triton see the Superbike and scared the Superbike swerve to the left

So better stop and let the Superbike choose his destination

Seems like Superbike choose final destination
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Seems plausible, Triton does gave emergency signal for quite some time.
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 27 2024, 07:54 PM)
Imho the pick-up truck had enough space and time to slow down and move off the right lane.
I wouldn’t ever want to stop dead in the right lane and be the first vehicle in a multi car pile up.
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Maybe the Triton see the superbike very fast behind and scared the superbike will swerve left lane

So better stay in same lane and left superbike pass Triton from the left
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 07:56 PM)
I stated very clearly she salah. The essence of the question is wrong on what count ?
Traffic offence or killing a life ?
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itu kerja AG and hakim la..for sure kena one.
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Apr 27 2024, 07:58 PM)
itu kerja AG and hakim la..for sure kena one.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 07:56 PM)
I stated very clearly she salah. The essence of the question is wrong on what count ?
Traffic offence or killing a life ?
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Very light offence only like obstructing traffic on a road.
Hard to prove she is ultimately culpable for the motobodo death.
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Triton bodoh la, if you slow down and know your car cannot pick up speed then go left la, stay fast lane for what? Since no obstruction already, die die wanna stay on fast lane, pedal to the metal la.

He lucky is a motobodo, if it's a trailer or lorry on high speed?
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I'm not blaming motoguy but Motor GP racer ride faster still can survive crash with proper safety equipment and technique

Need to learn how to throw the bike and slide like motor GP guy

Shit happen, when you go speed one small mistake can cause death

RIP motor guy at least he die doing what he love
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 27 2024, 08:03 PM)
Very light offence only like obstructing traffic on a road.
Hard to prove she is ultimately culpable for the motobodo death.
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I tend to agree. But this opinion seem to anger some forummers.

Some have the view it is involuntary manslaughter.
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I'm not the one with insults and name calling. If my points hurt your feelings , feel free to block me. Then the pain will go away
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 07:49 PM)
The woman was no longer on the road when the biker came on the scene. So is it fair to say she is the direct cause ? Bear in mind the obstacle the biker faced was the triton and not the girl.  The triton was on his way to restart his journey signifying conditions were stabilized.

At the end of the day the obstacle is irrelevant. It could be a stalled triton, a python or a pothole that cause the traffic to stop. The outcome given the same distance and time lapse would likely expose the unpreparedness.

For sure the woman was also reckless.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 27 2024, 08:08 PM)
I enjoy insulting your intelligence, or whatever you have in that head of yours smile.gif
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Screenshots taken. Then I can show it back to you what a hypocrite you are when you act holier than thou in the SUS thread which you always do talking about other people.
Harassing people with childish insults 😄
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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 27 2024, 05:07 PM)
The Suzuki GSX-R 1000 price in the Malaysia starts between RM 73,165 - 96,900 . it is available in 2 colors, 3 variants in the Malaysia. The GSX-R 1000 is powered by a 999.8 cc engine, and has a 6-Speed gearbox. The Suzuki GSX-R 1000 has a seating height of 825 mm and kerb weight of 200 kg.
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 27 2024, 05:18 PM)
If straight highway, sometimes even if follow speed limit, if no jam nothing also very scary to see car sudden or full stop.  Almost feel like cannot brake on time.

The fact that Triton still manage to turn on hazard light is impressive liao....
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 08:11 PM)
Screenshots taken. Then I can show it back to you what a hypocrite you are when you act holier than thou in the SUS thread which you always do talking about other people.
Harassing people with childish insults 😄
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Wow somebody is being emotional whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 27 2024, 05:07 PM)
The Suzuki GSX-R 1000 price in the Malaysia starts between RM 73,165 - 96,900 . it is available in 2 colors, 3 variants in the Malaysia. The GSX-R 1000 is powered by a 999.8 cc engine, and has a 6-Speed gearbox. The Suzuki GSX-R 1000 has a seating height of 825 mm and kerb weight of 200 kg.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 27 2024, 08:13 PM)
Wow somebody is being emotional whistling.gif
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Why the pickup need to put on hazard and stop on the fast lane after the women is already on the other side. Is it to observe what she is doing aka busybody.
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actually, this accident is very arguable... the motorbike rider should be careful on the road. The pickup is stupid.. but it got give signal. both side of it back is blinking. that means it is at very slow speed or need attention. We can only say the pickup driver is stupid, but MAY NOT enough evidence to charge the pickup driver to the court.

Speaking of the woman... she is not at tempat kejadian.... and betul betul cakap... tiada apa-apa yang boleh charge dia demi kemalangan ini. kerana perempuan itu agak jauh daripada accident. (sometime I prefer to use BM to explain. my Eng sucks, Malay also sucks...)

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 07:49 PM)
The woman was no longer on the road when the biker came on the scene. So is it fair to say she is the direct cause ? Bear in mind the obstacle the biker faced was the triton and not the girl.  The triton was on his way to restart his journey signifying conditions were stabilized.

At the end of the day the obstacle is irrelevant. It could be a stalled triton, a python or a pothole that cause the traffic to stop. The outcome given the same distance and time lapse would likely expose the unpreparedness.

For sure the woman was also reckless.
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Exactly
People see this like its a one event accident with just one perp when infact there's multiple distinct infarctions happened and done by multiple people that results in one clusterfuck.

Sohai woman being sohai.
Slow triton bawak kereta lembu dekat fast lane.
Motobodo being motobodo.

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Apr 27 2024, 08:17 PM)
actually, this accident is very arguable... the motorbike rider should be careful on the road. The pickup is stupid.. but it got give signal. both side of it back is blinking. that means it is at very slow speed or need attention. We can only say the pickup driver is stupid, but MAY NOT enough evidence to charge the pickup driver to the court.

Speaking of the woman... she is not at tempat kejadian.... and betul betul cakap... tiada apa-apa yang boleh charge dia demi kemalangan ini. kerana perempuan itu agak jauh daripada accident. (sometime I prefer to use BM to explain. my Eng sucks, Malay also sucks...)
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assuming, if the woman did not cross the road ..

the superbiker hit Triton with high speed is the deal betwen superbiker (now dead) and the Triton driver .. the accused will be the Triton driver, and he/she will be investigated for the incident, tapi sekarang masalah perempuan yang lintas lebuhraya, u know that u cannot simply walk or pedestrian to be at lebuhraya without proper valid reason?

now the lady cross the road become victim and accused to use the lebuhraya without permission .. smile.gif
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 07:56 PM)
I stated very clearly she salah. The essence of the question is wrong on what count ?
Traffic offence or killing a life ?
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Her recklessness caused death, this is what the police are investigating her for currently.

Though we know the rider’s death was avoidable (and he died because of his own mistakes), but given the initial facts (she ran across the road) clearly made the police to investigate her based on that.

You dont need to plotek plotek too much la, i also blame the rider for riding too fast, and I also blame the lady for her actions. No need to come up with whatever analogy you want to indirectly blame anyone but the lady. I guess when you think you have these great analogies lined up to divert the conversation, but getting insulted pula by me, you became emotional, kan kan kan? Tapi denying that you are hurt by my words kan kan kan? Lulz grow up.
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Apr 27 2024, 07:19 PM)
is the triton involved a manual-transmission or an auto-transmission?

it might be that there is delay in picking up speed due to the triton's driver having to readjust his manual transmission.

while some ktards who have lived oh-so comfortably chose to blame slow reaction, including blaming for supposedly not moving to left lane quick enough to their standard.

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Dah tau kereta lembab pickup macam kereta lembu, otak lembab macam lembu, bawak je la kiri macam sepatutnya bagi kenderaan berat lembu.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 27 2024, 08:23 PM)
Her recklessness caused death, this is what the police are investigating her for currently.

Though we know the rider’s death was avoidable (and he died because of his own mistakes), but given the initial facts (she ran across the road) clearly made the police to investigate her based on that.

You dont need to plotek plotek too much la, i also blame the rider for riding too fast, and I also blame the lady for her actions. No need to come up with whatever analogy you want to indirectly blame anyone but the lady. I guess when you think you have these great analogies lined up to divert the conversation, but getting insulted pula by me, you became emotional, kan kan kan? Tapi denying that you are hurt by my words kan kan kan? Lulz grow up.
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Nope, i'm not hurt at all. You curiously funny. Always talking bout ktards that get sus but here you are behaving like that.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 08:25 PM)
Nope, i'm not hurt at all. You curiously funny. Always talking bout ktards that get sus but here you are behaving like that.
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The difference is i am insulting racist idiots like yourself

And those who get sussed are the racist idiots that i insulted

Learn to read
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Where is the original thread of this ya? Ayam missed it
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 27 2024, 08:27 PM)
The difference is i am insulting racist idiots like yourself

And those who get sussed are the racist idiots that i insulted

Learn to read
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Oh i am racist? Which part in my argument made it about race? Please point it out.

Those are heavy accusations. You sure they didn't come from a place of butthurt ? 😅
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 27 2024, 05:11 PM)
how many seconds from the triton stopped, until the bike crashed ? some ppl say avoidable, or too fast?
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 27 2024, 05:18 PM)
If straight highway, sometimes even if follow speed limit, if no jam nothing also very scary to see car sudden or full stop.   Almost feel like cannot brake on time.

The fact that Triton still manage to turn on hazard light is impressive liao....
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emergency brake , auto ON hazard light

QUOTE(feekle @ Apr 27 2024, 08:33 PM)
In defensive driving class they always teach 3 seconds rule if following any vehicles, the faster u go, meaning the more larger the gap needed.
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 27 2024, 05:18 PM)
If straight highway, sometimes even if follow speed limit, if no jam nothing also very scary to see car sudden or full stop.  Almost feel like cannot brake on time.

The fact that Triton still manage to turn on hazard light is impressive liao....
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How to know is triton turn on or it auto turn on? Nowadays cars will auto turn on hazard light during e brake
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 08:30 PM)
Oh i am racist? Which part in my argument made it about race? Please point it out.

Those are heavy accusations. You sure they didn't  come from a place of butthurt ? 😅
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We can see you clearly trying very hard to divert the conversation away when it comes to that particular race, mostly. Not only in this topic, but also in other threads. The difference between you and me is that I look past their skin colors and make comments based on the facts. You make analogies, excuses, bedtime stories, just to divert the conversation and blame the other parties.

Wrong is wrong. Not saying you didnt blame the woman also, but isn’t it just better to just stop there? No, you did not. And let’s make it clear, you also insulted ktards who blame the woman kan kan kan? I mean, why are you insulting them but at the same time you claim to blame the woman for crossing the road? Bro, you ok in the head or not? You are insulting yourself for not having a critical thinking also ka? There are laws that can punish you if you caused harm to others due to your recklessness tongue.gif

Oh well, please continue not to be a “xenophobe” ya? And I am not sorry you feel this way mmkay?
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 27 2024, 05:04 PM)
No no no, woman who crossed the road not from the pick up truck who slowed down...

Couple who argued already park beside, but the crazy woman entah buat apa run to middle of the road macam mau suicide..


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Looks like the moto speeding no see front hilux slowing down with double signal
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I sees 3 wrongs.
1) Women crossing highway
2) Hailat busy body women walking at middle of the highway.
3) Motorcycle speeding.

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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Apr 27 2024, 09:02 PM)
Looks like the moto speeding no see front hilux slowing down with double signal
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This 2 keyword combine, con9lan7firm overspeeding, no need 'looks like'.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Apr 27 2024, 08:59 PM)
We can see you clearly trying very hard to divert the conversation away when it comes to that particular race, mostly. Not only in this topic, but also in other threads. The difference between you and me is that I look past their skin colors and make comments based on the facts. You make analogies, excuses, bedtime stories, just to divert the conversation and blame the other parties.

Wrong is wrong. Not saying you didnt blame the woman also, but isn’t it just better to just stop there? No, you did not. And let’s make it clear, you also insulted ktards who blame the woman kan kan kan? I mean, why are you insulting them but at the same time you claim to blame the woman for crossing the road? Bro, you ok in the head or not? You are insulting yourself for not having a critical thinking also ka? There are laws that can punish you if you caused harm to others due to your recklessness tongue.gif

Oh well, please continue not to be a “xenophobe” ya? And I am not sorry you feel this way mmkay?
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Ask mod have i receive any warning or sus ?

My argument in this topic is clear for everyone to see. You got counter argument then deposit it here fto facilitate the discussion . Why you hijack the thread just for attacking me. Say i butthurt but it is you conjuring up all these accusations.

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Have you all ever seen a superbike going below speed limit on highway? I haven't. Just saying...
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QUOTE(alternativehype @ Apr 27 2024, 09:05 PM)
Have you all ever seen a superbike going below speed limit on highway? I haven't. Just saying...
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No

Clearly he ded cause he sped
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Woman’s fault for sure

But why triton stop so long on the road? No survival instinct the gtfo after an incident happened. Anything accident happen don’t stop at the scene please.
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If that's china woman, it's a no big deal to them. Back home some chinamoi are known to be extremely dramatic and will doing crazy things.

Kesian rider. Rip.

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QUOTE(bigduck @ Apr 27 2024, 09:17 PM)
Woman’s fault for sure

But why triton stop so long on the road? No survival instinct the gtfo after an incident happened. Anything accident happen don’t stop at the scene please.
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Funny nobody seems to say the bike shouldn't be at that speed on the carriageway to begin with, in whatsoever circumtances. Not that the rider will be endangering himself but others. Too bad, it's the rider himself this time.

Can riders put a blame on other road users for any eventualities on the road, on you who chose to ride in that speed ?

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 27 2024, 09:29 PM)
Funny nobody seems to say the bike shouldn't be at that speed on the carriageway to begin with, in whatever circumtances. Not that the rider will be endangering himself but others. Too bad, it's the rider himself this time.

Can riders put a blame on other road users for any eventualities for being in that speed ?
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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Apr 27 2024, 09:02 PM)
Looks like the moto speeding no see front hilux slowing down with double signal
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QUOTE(alternativehype @ Apr 27 2024, 09:05 PM)
Have you all ever seen a superbike going below speed limit on highway? I haven't. Just saying...
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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 27 2024, 04:56 PM)
Why they memecut speeding on road. They should know on highway will have people crossing. 6 years 6k punishment!!!
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atas hiway mana ada org melintas jalan. berenti tepi pun tak boleh. lagi mau defend ka?
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Have you all ever seen a superbike going below speed limit on highway? I haven't. Just saying...
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sigh.

still got people "why the triton stopped", "why the triton delayed", "why the triton didn't move to the left".

if the triton had instead moved to left lane and something else transpired, those same ktards will turn around their assholes and say instead "why the triton changed to left lane, it shouldn't have done that".
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 09:34 PM)
He also damage the Triton
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Ok

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QUOTE(old_timer @ Apr 27 2024, 09:42 PM)
atas hiway mana ada org melintas jalan. berenti tepi pun tak boleh. lagi mau defend ka?
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Don't tipu la. You 100% sure highway never have people melintas? 100% chop never see ppl melintas or berhenti tepi jalan? Sumpah atas nama mak bapak tuhan?

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The pick up truck has slowed down and double signal for quite long already. The motor did not pay attention neither slowing down
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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 27 2024, 09:54 PM)
Don't tipu la. You 100% sure highway never have people melintas? 100% chop never see ppl melintas or berhenti tepi jalan? Sumpah atas nama mak bapak tuhan?
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do you see any designated cross lane or parking on the hiway?
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pukima sendiri ride fast smmr want blame cina.. fck off la ccb news
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The pick up truck has slowed down and double signal for quite long already. The motor did not pay attention neither slowing down
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so what your comment on the woman crossing? dia tak salah la?
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The pick up truck has slowed down and double signal for quite long already. The motor did not pay attention neither slowing down
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Why need so long in right lane? No obstruction already, why not just resume journey as normal? 6-7 secs not enough to speed up? Cannot speed up then why stay in right lane? Lane hogging for what?
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Even normal accident also police will tell you don't stop at the road unless really cannot move, if car can move then pull over at a safe manner. If kancheong or shock, pull over safely not stop catch a breath mid of overtaking lane
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Apr 27 2024, 07:41 PM)
Ok, can see the moto guy not paying attention, riding so fast, eyes ‘kat mana? Big bikes have brakes that can slow sown or total stop plus why these bikers need to be on 3rd lane? Toll pon tak bayar, ride macam own the rode, forgot masa learning time, bikes need to keep left unless overtaking. Sorry dieded but traffic rules need to be followed.
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if that woman didnt cross the road the triton wont slow down.
aku tak tau kenapa you nk defend sangat perempuan tu.
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do you see any designated cross lane or parking on the hiway?
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You dare to swear you never see stopped vehicles or people standing on highway even without designated cross lane/parking?

You swear on your whole family?


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 27 2024, 05:01 PM)
nothing will happen to them.....at most saman
just stop riding that fast.....it's perfectly avoidable....your eyes can't move as fast as your bike is moving
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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Apr 27 2024, 08:17 PM)
actually, this accident is very arguable... the motorbike rider should be careful on the road. The pickup is stupid.. but it got give signal. both side of it back is blinking. that means it is at very slow speed or need attention. We can only say the pickup driver is stupid, but MAY NOT enough evidence to charge the pickup driver to the court.

Speaking of the woman... she is not at tempat kejadian.... and betul betul cakap... tiada apa-apa yang boleh charge dia demi kemalangan ini. kerana perempuan itu agak jauh daripada accident. (sometime I prefer to use BM to explain. my Eng sucks, Malay also sucks...)
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she caused the triton to slow down on the middle of the hiway.
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QUOTE(old_timer @ Apr 27 2024, 10:04 PM)
she caused the triton to slow down on the middle of the hiway.
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not just slow down lar .. all the news reported truck emergency brake .... berak kejutan


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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Apr 27 2024, 10:08 PM)
Its the right lane on the highway of course ppl are driving fast retard.

Cina mainland pun mau plotek
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it was 2.3 seconds before the bike hit that 4×4, meaning the bike was going at 256KM/H approximately 28 meter before the impact when he started to squeeze the brake really hard and make it the bike flying and landing on top of 4×4...

You drive 256km/hr on fast lane? Which highway can drive that fast?

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Its the right lane on the highway of course ppl are driving fast retard.

Cina mainland pun mau plotek
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You go to the video Facebook link

All the Malay there talk bad about Chinese Malaysian in general

Please read first before claim others plotek
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why everyone blame the car that stop suddenly.
If tiba2 babi hutan suddenly cross the road then sudden brake....still salah babi? salah car that stop suddenly?
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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 27 2024, 10:12 PM)
it was 2.3 seconds before the bike hit that 4×4, meaning the bike was going at 256KM/H approximately 28 meter before the impact when he started to squeeze the brake really hard and make it the bike flying and landing on top of 4×4...

You drive 256km/hr on fast lane? Which highway can drive that fast?
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QUOTE(elimi8z @ Apr 27 2024, 10:21 PM)
Cina babi still the main culprit, just that Triton could’ve done better, if Triton has more experience and brain, right now is Triton and everyone bashing the lady. But Triton and moto skill lousy, Cina babi relegated to background
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Remember Sam Ke Ting case? when everyone blame the chinese lady despite she got proof that she wasnt speeding, poor lighting condition and those basikal lajaks are on a slopy winding road there is no possible way for her to see them? that case? she have to face jail and fine and fight lengthy court case for many years.


this case, the triton slowed down for almost 10seconds, put signal, put emergency light but the rempit still manage to crash into it. bright daylight, straight road. and people think hes innocent and try to blame the chinese lady.
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mmg malang tidak berbau..
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regardless of what we all say, only one chap died... so at end, it doesn't matter who is wrong.... still just the one chap who died.
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regardless of what we all say, only one chap died... so at end, it doesn't matter who is wrong.... still just the one chap who died.
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QUOTE(elimi8z @ Apr 27 2024, 10:21 PM)
Cina babi still the main culprit, just that Triton could’ve done better, if Triton has more experience and brain, right now is Triton and everyone bashing the lady. But Triton and moto skill lousy, Cina babi relegated to background
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QUOTE(elimi8z @ Apr 27 2024, 10:29 PM)
Sohais would say he’s innocent but that doesn’t remove the fact the Cina babi is at fault
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QUOTE(elimi8z @ Apr 27 2024, 10:30 PM)
Not yet, China original babi and local babi different dialect, waiting translator
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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Apr 27 2024, 10:04 PM)
If CCP they kena jail already... Our polis here doesn't care much of pipit..
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actually any country outside of MY would've gone to jail and license suspended for riding that fast
these sort of accidents wouldn't even happen to begin with
here, we let nature do it's job because that's how malaysians want their lesson learnt

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Semoga amoi tu kena tindakan hukuman yg sekeras2 nya. Ntk dijadikan pngajran.
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Semoga amoi tu kena tindakan hukuman yg sekeras2 nya. Ntk dijadikan pngajran.
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moto speeding
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https://forum.lowyat.net/user/elimi8z

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the bike should be going over 200kph to flip like that
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waiting for news on the chinese lady

anyway, does calling cina + babi make it more rhythm? gila mia orang
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Sorry, a bit late to the party, have the OKU card been summoned?
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more like SUICIDE card
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waiting for news on the chinese lady

anyway, does calling cina + babi make it more rhythm? gila mia orang
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Just stems from pure toxic hatred thats in their hearts. Its natural when they are permitted to be racists without any repercussions while their sensitivities are given the highest priority in malaysian law.
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this accident thread very laku one...10 pages rclxms.gif
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Why did the chicken cross the highway?

Cos pickup truck slow down and Moto speeding crashed.


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this accident thread very laku one...10 pages  rclxms.gif
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Its laku because we get to see the toxic racism in the FB posts. Good insight into their simple minds.
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Wanita no nationality

Passenger got mention chinaman
Safe to assume wanita is local?
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Yes, the lady is wrong for crossing the road. But replace the lady with wild animal such cow, dog or cat. Most cars will brake to a stop like the 4x4. Hence my below point;-

The inability of the biker to stop and swerve away instead of flipping due to excessive front brakes and the way the bike crashes into the 4x4, the bike is definitely speeding way way above 110kmh. And as usual, many people can afford a superbike but dont have the skill or discipline to ride it

Lastly the understanding that the one that crash the rear is mostly be held responsible becuz its up to ownself to stop and avoid whatever in front. As usual la, authorities need to act according to netizens.

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In the news u see how careful they word it. They never say the motorcyclist speeding and never pay attention to the road.
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QUOTE(drewn123 @ Apr 28 2024, 12:49 AM)
Yes, the lady is wrong for crossing the road. But replace the lady with wild animal such cow, dog or cat. Most cars will brake to a stop like the 4x4. Hence my below point;-

The inability of the biker to stop and swerve away instead of flipping due to excessive front brakes and the way the bike crashes into the 4x4, the bike is definitely speeding way way above 110kmh. And as usual, many people can afford a superbike but dont have the skill or discipline to ride it

Lastly the understanding that the one that crash the rear is mostly be held responsible becuz its up to ownself to stop and avoid whatever in front. As usual la, authorities need to act according to netizens.
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Authorities did not act according to netizen. They act according to color. News never once said speeding. The protect already started
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QUOTE(kopiride @ Apr 28 2024, 12:54 AM)
In the news u see how careful they word it. They never say the motorcyclist speeding and never pay attention to the road.
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its not something new that our reporters are shit.

The most the lady can be charged is jaywalking. And the 2days reman order for the lady is just pure bullshit in effort to curb the idiotic netizens.

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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 27 2024, 11:25 PM)
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QUOTE(atook @ Apr 27 2024, 11:47 PM)
this accident thread very laku one...10 pages  rclxms.gif
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I thought it would be 20 pages by now
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QUOTE(elimi8z @ Apr 27 2024, 10:00 PM)
Why need so long in right lane? No obstruction already, why not just resume journey as normal? 6-7 secs not enough to speed up? Cannot speed up then why stay in right lane? Lane hogging for what?
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QUOTE(elimi8z @ Apr 27 2024, 10:02 PM)
Even normal accident also police will tell you don't stop at the road unless really cannot move, if car can move then pull over at a safe manner. If kancheong or shock, pull over safely not stop catch a breath mid of overtaking lane
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bawak bertenang tenang dengan left right hand double post bro

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Semoga amoi tu kena tindakan hukuman yg sekeras2 nya. Ntk dijadikan pngajran.
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Moto tu langgar belakang. SI mati tu salah speeding sampai tak boleh break. Yg langgar belakang salah. Otak u letak buntut ke.
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Wow if like this the pickup truck really kena game..

If hit wimmin kena

If managed to stop, belakang pula yang kena
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by law could only charge the woman for jaywalking offense

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Apr 27 2024, 07:34 PM)
Interesting analogy, and in both I can say that
- the woman crossed the highway dangerously (which is also illegal, right?)
- the lack of fire extinguisher is a breach of building safety SOP (which is also illegal, right?)

Now personally, I totally would not fault the Triton because the driver also did everything correctly: braked on time, did not change lane abruptly into the cam car, turned on hazard lights, did not speed up because a crazy bitch was running around, she was unpredictable. Biker on the other hand braked in the last seconds but he could've braked way earlier or swerved to avoid. The hazard lights were on more than 5 seconds and he only hard braked which flipped the bike on the last 2 seconds or so. His mistake cost his life, but it could've been prevented if the woman didn't break the law.

Take the factory fire analogy, let's say someone made a mistake at the factory and caused the fire, and the person was not able to escape because he accidentally locked himself in the factory. Same thing, his mistake cost his life, but it could've been prevented if the factory was properly equipped i.e. did not break the law.

In the end, it depends on who's suing who. Let's just imagine if the victims who made the mistake are alive (and therefore can be held liable). I bet everyone would be furious if the Triton owner decides to sues the biker for speeding and not braking on time, ultimately damaging his car. Same like factory, the owner sues the victim for making the mistake and burn down his factory.

I think there's a "correct answer" here that one is "more wrong" than the other, adding with the fact that, the other wrong is already dead, he already paid the ultimate price.
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If cow crossed the road and u die, pls go Sue the cow. Hello!! Your analogy failed. When u are on the road, drive safely.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Apr 28 2024, 01:06 AM)
Wow if like this the pickup truck really kena game..

If hit wimmin kena

If managed to stop, belakang pula yang kena
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The truck did the right thing. Better to let others pick their final destination than become the murderer.

Truck driver already try his very best, slow down and put double signal. He can sleep peacefully.

I don't think he will be ever be at peace if he ran over the lady.
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I saw this news on twitter/x, so many racist comments there + they getting so many likes. Why so much hate???
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 06:26 PM)
Alot of ktard fail in critical thinking.

The woman crossed the highway. That is wrong.

But the bike's accident was the indirect cause, not a direct cause. So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike.

If the scenario was different, say the triton experienced a catastrophic engine failure and come to total halt, will the result be different. Will the result be different? Answer this.
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If obstruction was caused by a falling tree instead of crazy suicidal woman, I wonder what ktards will say.

Saman + jail the tree?

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 27 2024, 10:43 PM)
actually any country outside of MY would've gone to jail and license suspended for riding that fast
these sort of accidents wouldn't even happen to begin with
here, we let nature do it's job because that's how malaysians want their lesson learnt
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I always joke about reckless/dangerous drivers to close ones.

Let them learn the hard way, IF they survive to learn. Can't learn from 6 feet under or in an urn.
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if that woman didnt cross the road the triton wont slow down.
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Woman memang nk cari mati, patut mampus.. tapi pickup do emergency brake perfectly, straight, I know cos I used to drive one and doing emergency brake and stopping mcm tu bukan senang. Tapi yg bawak moto tu, tak tahu pakai brek? Ada ABS jugak, boleh elak, moto boleh buat emergency brek tanpa jatuh, masa ambik lesen kena belajor. Kalo xde lesen full B, tak tahu-la …


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QUOTE(drewn123 @ Apr 28 2024, 12:49 AM)
Yes, the lady is wrong for crossing the road. But replace the lady with wild animal such cow, dog or cat. Most cars will brake to a stop like the 4x4. Hence my below point;-

The inability of the biker to stop and swerve away instead of flipping due to excessive front brakes and the way the bike crashes into the 4x4, the bike is definitely speeding way way above 110kmh. And as usual, many people can afford a superbike but dont have the skill or discipline to ride it

Lastly the understanding that the one that crash the rear is mostly be held responsible becuz its up to ownself to stop and avoid whatever in front. As usual la, authorities need to act according to netizens.
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Sadly I think if the lady is out of the picture and replaced with what you said, a wild animal or random debris (e.g. Big branch from heavy rain).

The 4x4 will be targeted instead.
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QUOTE(old_timer @ Apr 27 2024, 10:03 PM)
if that woman didnt cross the road the triton wont slow down.
aku tak tau kenapa you nk defend sangat perempuan tu.
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Not defending the woman, but when 'if' game has started to appear, then you know the fact remains the bike was way overspeeding and didn't manage to avoid or brake in time.

If the woman didn't cross the road
If the woman didn't drive the truck
If the Triton had a late breakfast then he wouldn't be on the highway
If babi can terbang
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QUOTE(drewn123 @ Apr 28 2024, 01:49 AM)
Yes, the lady is wrong for crossing the road. But replace the lady with wild animal such cow, dog or cat. Most cars will brake to a stop like the 4x4. Hence my below point;-

The inability of the biker to stop and swerve away instead of flipping due to excessive front brakes and the way the bike crashes into the 4x4, the bike is definitely speeding way way above 110kmh. And as usual, many people can afford a superbike but dont have the skill or discipline to ride it

Lastly the understanding that the one that crash the rear is mostly be held responsible becuz its up to ownself to stop and avoid whatever in front. As usual la, authorities need to act according to netizens.
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here some kambing's speculations that no /k mentioned:
- biker's helmet might those tinted the visor,
user posted image
so the biker's visibility was poor because cloudy that time.
- and the shaded area beneath the overbridge, got a black Triton
- voilà, the disaster's receipt was created. bye.gif


including TS in this post, the Facebook and Twitter poster trying to stir sh*t by highlighting Chinese woman's wrongdoing in title. That why so many toxic comments there. doh.gif


btw the Triton's driver is a non. hmm.gif
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here some kambing's speculations that no /k mentioned:
  - biker's helmet might those tinted the visor,
user posted image
so the biker's visibility was poor because cloudy that time.
  - and the shaded area beneath the overbridge, got a black Triton
  - voilà, the disaster's receipt was created.  bye.gif
including TS in this post, the Facebook and Twitter poster trying to stir  sh*t by highlighting Chinese woman's wrongdoing in title. That why so many toxic comments there. doh.gif
btw the Triton's driver is a non.  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(PerfectZero @ Apr 28 2024, 02:49 AM)
Kesian the guy passed away due to stupid people like this.
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if he didn't passed away this way, it's bound to happen in the near future from the speed that he's riding
it's the same as driving, if you speed all the time...there's bound to be one time that takes you out....one way or another
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Apr 28 2024, 06:36 AM)
Not defending the woman, but when 'if' game has started to appear, then you know the fact remains the bike was way overspeeding and didn't manage to avoid or brake in time.

If the woman didn't cross the road
If the woman didn't drive the truck
If the Triton had a late breakfast then he wouldn't be on the highway
If babi can terbang
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you are not defending the woman, then you must agree she shouldn't be there did what she did.
the accident wont occur then no matter how fast the bike is speeding.
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If straight highway, sometimes even if follow speed limit, if no jam nothing also very scary to see car sudden or full stop.  Almost feel like cannot brake on time.

The fact that Triton still manage to turn on hazard light is impressive liao....
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QUOTE(old_timer @ Apr 28 2024, 08:38 AM)
you are not defending the woman, then you must agree she shouldn't be there did what she did.
the accident wont occur then no matter how fast the bike is speeding.
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If you say the accident wouldn't occur if the woman wasn't there, the same case can be applied if the bike wasn't over speeding.

Hey, why stop if the woman wasn't there, why did her parents even conceive her in the first place?

Look at the facts: the woman was on the road for whatever reason, the Triton did an emergency brake, the over speeding bike hit the Triton. As clear as that.
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Apr 28 2024, 08:56 AM)
If you say the accident wouldn't occur if the woman wasn't there, the same case can be applied if the bike wasn't over speeding.

Hey, why stop if the woman wasn't there, why did her parents even conceive her in the first place?

Look at the facts: the woman was on the road for whatever reason, the Triton did an emergency brake, the over speeding bike hit the Triton. As clear as that.
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the woman shouldn't be there on the road for whatever reason.
also its an offend to stop on the hiway not in designated area.

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the woman shouldn't be there on the road for whatever reason.
also its an offend to stop on the hiway not in designated area.
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You still didn't get it. I don't say any of them is wrong as that would be semantics, I leave that up to the investigators and judiciary. What I am advocating for are facts that all could see and agree.

The woman was seen walking on the road. The Triton did an emergency brake. The bike was over speeding and hit the Triton.

Whether any of them should have done what they did is up to the investigation. Hopefully you can differentiate what from why.
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QUOTE(kopiride @ Apr 28 2024, 12:58 AM)
Moto tu langgar belakang. SI mati tu salah speeding sampai tak boleh break. Yg langgar belakang salah. Otak u letak buntut ke.
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Punca. Siapa punca pertama kematian? Namanya pun highway, highway bukan tempat untuk seorang manusia untuk suka2 berdiri tengah jalan tanpa sebab/ada sebab. Highway tempat untuk kenderaan berlalu lalang. Betul motor tu laju, itu punca kedua. Didalam sesuatu pertandingan, siapa yg akan jadi juara, tempat pertama atau tempat kedua? Jadi sekarang ni siapa punya otak yang dekat buntut??? Eja brake pun tak reti, ada hati nak tuduh orang lain otak dekat buntut.

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Apr 28 2024, 09:06 AM)
You still didn't get it. I don't say any of them is wrong as that would be semantics, I leave that up to the investigators and judiciary. What I am advocating for are facts that all could see and agree.

The woman was seen walking on the road. The Triton did an emergency brake. The bike was over speeding and hit the Triton.

Whether any of them should have done what they did is up to the investigation. Hopefully you can differentiate what from why.
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so you are just stating the obvious then. then you dont have to comment at all. everybody know what happened.
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QUOTE(old_timer @ Apr 28 2024, 09:29 AM)
so you are just stating the obvious then. then you dont have to comment at all. everybody know what happened.
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you are not defending the woman, then you must agree she shouldn't be there did what she did.
the accident wont occur then no matter how fast the bike is speeding.
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Punca. Siapa punca pertama kematian? Namanya pun highway, highway bukan tempat untuk seorang manusia untuk suka2 berdiri tengah jalan tanpa sebab/ada sebab. Highway tempat untuk kenderaan berlalu lalang. Betul motor tu laju, itu punca kedua. Didalam sesuatu pertandingan, siapa yg akan jadi juara, tempat pertama atau tempat kedua? Jadi sekarang ni siapa punya otak yang dekat buntut??? Eja brake pun tak reti, ada hati nak tuduh orang lain otak dekat buntut.
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Adik, nak tanya kalau kat highway adik accident langgar orang adik terus pecut lari ke? Adik tak stop turun kereta and tengok mangsa? Kalau kat highway nampak ada staff highway repair jalan straight langgar macam bowling? No need slowdown?

Kalau kat highway nampak ada pokok tumbang pun sama ke?
Kalau banjir pulak macam mane?

Ini semua reasons of maybe ada sebab orang lintas ke atas highway.

That's whatever reason. Kalau salah akan kena saman.
Luckily rempit tu terbunuh sendiri jer. That's the best outcome.
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They thought the hiway is their father one ka?

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Punca. Siapa punca pertama kematian? Namanya pun highway, highway bukan tempat untuk seorang manusia untuk suka2 berdiri tengah jalan tanpa sebab/ada sebab. Highway tempat untuk kenderaan berlalu lalang. Betul motor tu laju, itu punca kedua. Didalam sesuatu pertandingan, siapa yg akan jadi juara, tempat pertama atau tempat kedua? Jadi sekarang ni siapa punya otak yang dekat buntut??? Eja brake pun tak reti, ada hati nak tuduh orang lain otak dekat buntut.
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Punca ialah kerana moto pandu laju. Kalau moto ikut had laju, pasti tiada berlaku apa2. Di jalan raya apa2 boleh berlaku. Contohnya, kalau ada accident, kendaraan pasti henti. Kalau moto tu tak dapat henti kerana accident di depan, takan nak cakap sbb accident tu yg buat moto tu mati? Kalau pokok tumbang ke, kerana rosak ke, juga akan henti di jalan. Jadi guna otak u baik baik. Atau u pun salah seorang yg pandu laju macam setan? Otak setan ke. Otak u memang letak di buntut. Hahaha. Ikut had laju lah. Period!! Jgn jadi rempit
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9m2w come read this news report

I see the motobike hit the car on the right, but report says hit the stopped car on left.
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QUOTE(kopiride @ Apr 28 2024, 11:13 AM)
Punca ialah kerana moto pandu laju. Kalau moto ikut had laju, pasti tiada berlaku apa2. Di jalan raya apa2 boleh berlaku. Contohnya, kalau ada accident, kendaraan pasti henti. Kalau moto tu tak dapat henti kerana accident di depan, takan nak cakap sbb accident tu yg buat moto tu mati? Kalau pokok tumbang ke, kerana rosak ke, juga akan henti di jalan. Jadi guna otak u baik baik. Atau u pun salah seorang yg pandu laju macam setan? Otak setan ke. Otak u memang letak di buntut. Hahaha. Ikut had laju lah. Period!! Jgn jadi rempit
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Got.any prove.motor lebih had laju? Suka2 fitnah tahi anjing dia je

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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 28 2024, 10:56 AM)
Adik, nak tanya kalau kat highway adik accident langgar orang adik terus pecut lari ke? Adik tak stop turun kereta and tengok mangsa? Kalau kat highway nampak ada staff highway repair jalan straight langgar macam bowling? No need slowdown?

Kalau kat highway nampak ada pokok tumbang pun sama ke?
Kalau banjir pulak macam mane?

Ini semua reasons of maybe ada sebab orang lintas ke atas highway.

That's whatever reason.  Kalau salah akan kena saman.
Luckily rempit tu terbunuh sendiri jer. That's the best outcome.
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so many 'kalau'  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 28 2024, 10:56 AM)
Adik, nak tanya kalau kat highway adik accident langgar orang adik terus pecut lari ke? Adik tak stop turun kereta and tengok mangsa? Kalau kat highway nampak ada staff highway repair jalan straight langgar macam bowling? No need slowdown?

Kalau kat highway nampak ada pokok tumbang pun sama ke?
Kalau banjir pulak macam mane?

Ini semua reasons of maybe ada sebab orang lintas ke atas highway.

That's whatever reason.  Kalau salah akan kena saman.
Luckily rempit tu terbunuh sendiri jer. That's the best outcome.
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Exactly, if rempits tumbang bersepah atas jalan, you e-brake for rempits to help each other, collect their pieces (which is a common sight) and you got hit belakang by a 200km/h superbike like this.

Will he say the same punca pertama kematian? 🤔

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Got.any prove.motor lebih had laju? Suka2 fitnah tahi anjing dia je
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Like this also need proof? Lol. Even oku can tell that the moto was speeding. ULTRA PLOTEK mode on!
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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Apr 28 2024, 11:20 AM)
Got.any prove.motor lebih had laju? Suka2 fitnah tahi anjing dia je
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He wasn’t riding at a safe speed to be able to stop in time or take evasive action. He just torpedoed the back of the pick up truck.
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QUOTE(jaapers @ Apr 28 2024, 11:46 AM)
Like this also need proof?  Lol. Even oku can tell that the moto was speeding.  ULTRA PLOTEK mode on!
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Lel 110km/h oso impact and speed like this...lu oku ke cacat otak?

Lu maain fitnah2 xde bukti, dengan orang dah mati pulak tu..bodoh betul
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 28 2024, 11:49 AM)
He wasn’t riding at a safe speed to be able to stop in time or take evasive action. He just torpedoed the back of the pick up truck.
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Safe speed =/ langgar speed limit

Now these retard accusation on the deceased driving more than speed limit

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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Apr 28 2024, 11:49 AM)
Lel 110km/h oso impact and speed like this...lu oku ke cacat otak?

Lu maain fitnah2 xde bukti, dengan orang dah mati pulak tu..bodoh betul
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Like i said, ULTRA PLOTEK mode on!
If the rider was cina you would probably say he was riding 250kmph already. But if melayu, mana bukti? Topkek.
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Bike actually flew before the impact. That's just way too fast.
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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Apr 28 2024, 11:49 AM)
Lel 110km/h oso impact and speed like this...lu oku ke cacat otak?

Lu maain fitnah2 xde bukti, dengan orang dah mati pulak tu..bodoh betul
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That person was riding approximately 250km/h from the distance travel and time of impact.

was 2.3 seconds before the bike hit that 4×4, meaning the bike was going at 256KM/H approximately 28 meter before the impact when he started to squeeze the brake really hard and make it the bike flying and landing on top of 4×4...

He fucked around and found out, actions have consequences. Speeding on highway while riding a bike is retarded.

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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Apr 28 2024, 11:51 AM)
Safe speed =/ langgar speed limit

Now these retard accusation on the deceased driving more than speed limit
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Since he cannot stop on time, maybe mabuk?
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look at how he fly pass the cam car. lol. still want to plotex. that lady definitely need to be penalised. but the cause of death is the rider himself
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 12:08 PM)
Since he cannot stop on time, maybe mabuk?
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Damn driving while mabuk really cari nahas!!
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 27 2024, 06:20 PM)
What is the consensus? Superbike too fast?
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Relative speed between the pickup and superbike is too high
Pickup at 30kmph, superbike at 160kmph
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 28 2024, 08:37 AM)
if he didn't passed away this way, it's bound to happen in the near future from the speed that he's riding
it's the same as driving, if you speed all the time...there's bound to be one time that takes you out....one way or another
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You are right. At the end of the day, it's about probability. The same reason i quit my riding too.

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Got.any prove.motor lebih had laju? Suka2 fitnah tahi anjing dia je
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Apr 28 2024, 12:16 PM)
Relative speed between the pickup and superbike is too high
Pickup at 30kmph, superbike at 160kmph
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Person above you saying you are tahi anjing for fitnah superbike driving too fast

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Mabuk lah tu dari jauh pun tak nampak double signal, dah bagi lama lah tu, siang lagi pun dah mabuk, jang
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QUOTE(PerfectZero @ Apr 28 2024, 12:20 PM)

You are right. At the end of the day, it's about probability. The same reason i quit my riding too.
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Yes, I also don't ride because in any accident, motor will die.

Accident alone also die. Example langgar pokok

Accident with others also die. Example langgar lorry

No accident also die. Example fall down from bike.

Actually current situation is also not accident because he no langgar Triton also. He jatuh sendiri.

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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Apr 28 2024, 11:20 AM)
Got.any prove.motor lebih had laju? Suka2 fitnah tahi anjing dia je
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Video itself is prove. Car slowed down and didn't stop abruptly. If the biker had it's proper distance plus kept speed limit 110, and aware what's Infront, nothing will happen.
Same question for the car. Why all the other vehicles can slowdown and stop while the biker can't.
Jadi bkn fitnah. Guna otak Dan Logik berfikir. I tak suka fitnah tahi anjing. I cuma benci otak babi bodoh.
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QUOTE(kopiride @ Apr 28 2024, 11:13 AM)
Punca ialah kerana moto pandu laju. Kalau moto ikut had laju, pasti tiada berlaku apa2. Di jalan raya apa2 boleh berlaku. Contohnya, kalau ada accident, kendaraan pasti henti. Kalau moto tu tak dapat henti kerana accident di depan, takan nak cakap sbb accident tu yg buat moto tu mati? Kalau pokok tumbang ke, kerana rosak ke, juga akan henti di jalan. Jadi guna otak u baik baik. Atau u pun salah seorang yg pandu laju macam setan? Otak setan ke. Otak u memang letak di buntut. Hahaha. Ikut had laju lah. Period!! Jgn jadi rempit
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Adik. Jangan nak pusing cerita dik. Jangan "kalau" banyak sangat. Kita fokus dekat isu ni. Dekat cerita ni sekarang tak ada accident ke, pokok tumbang ke, orang mati tengah jalan ke.. Itu semua tiada dekat cerita sekarang ni. Kita fokus kepada kenapa perempuan itu pergi berdiri tengah jalan sana? Tiada sebab untuk dia berdiri macam tu dekat situ untuk bagi kereta lain berhenti. Jauh sangat kau pergi tu dik. Sekarang ni memang ada bukti video yang perempuan itu suka2 berdiri tengah jalan. Jadi perempuan tu dah jadi punca pertama berlaku kejadian ni. Sebelum punca kedua iaitu kelajuan.
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Adik. Jangan nak pusing cerita dik. Jangan "kalau" banyak sangat. Kita fokus dekat isu ni. Dekat cerita ni sekarang tak ada accident ke, pokok tumbang ke, orang mati tengah jalan ke.. Itu semua tiada dekat cerita sekarang ni. Kita fokus kepada kenapa perempuan itu pergi berdiri tengah jalan sana? Tiada sebab untuk dia berdiri macam tu dekat situ untuk bagi kereta lain berhenti. Jauh sangat kau pergi tu dik. Sekarang ni memang ada bukti video yang perempuan itu suka2 berdiri tengah jalan. Jadi perempuan tu dah jadi punca pertama berlaku kejadian ni. Sebelum punca kedua iaitu kelajuan.
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QUOTE(syahmie8 @ Apr 28 2024, 12:52 PM)
Adik. Jangan nak pusing cerita dik. Jangan "kalau" banyak sangat. Kita fokus dekat isu ni. Dekat cerita ni sekarang tak ada accident ke, pokok tumbang ke, orang mati tengah jalan ke.. Itu semua tiada dekat cerita sekarang ni. Kita fokus kepada kenapa perempuan itu pergi berdiri tengah jalan sana? Tiada sebab untuk dia berdiri macam tu dekat situ untuk bagi kereta lain berhenti. Jauh sangat kau pergi tu dik. Sekarang ni memang ada bukti video yang perempuan itu suka2 berdiri tengah jalan. Jadi perempuan tu dah jadi punca pertama berlaku kejadian ni. Sebelum punca kedua iaitu kelajuan.
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I bkn adik u. U otak baby tak berhak panggil orang dik. Nak fokus, fokus kelakuan motor pandu laju. Memang betul perempuan tu jalan atas jalan. Tapi mengapa tak nampak kenderaan lain accident? Kenapa kenderaan lain boleh slow, henti tak langgar apa2? Kenapa motor2 lain juga tak sambung langgar belakang kereta tu. Jawab la soalan ini dulu. Bukti dah ada macam mana motor tu boleh spin bila break. Laju setan. Itulah akibatnya..baby boy, faham tak?
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QUOTE(syahmie8 @ Apr 28 2024, 12:52 PM)
Adik. Jangan nak pusing cerita dik. Jangan "kalau" banyak sangat. Kita fokus dekat isu ni. Dekat cerita ni sekarang tak ada accident ke, pokok tumbang ke, orang mati tengah jalan ke.. Itu semua tiada dekat cerita sekarang ni. Kita fokus kepada kenapa perempuan itu pergi berdiri tengah jalan sana? Tiada sebab untuk dia berdiri macam tu dekat situ untuk bagi kereta lain berhenti. Jauh sangat kau pergi tu dik. Sekarang ni memang ada bukti video yang perempuan itu suka2 berdiri tengah jalan. Jadi perempuan tu dah jadi punca pertama berlaku kejadian ni. Sebelum punca kedua iaitu kelajuan.
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Eeeee ploteknya. lain kali kalau bini kau diri atas jalan kena langgar sampai jadi human paste see who you plotek.

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wonder if /k will be this interested in this topic if the couple were malay and the biker china

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org kat atas you dah kata manada kelajuan? jgn pitenah beb. lu tahi anjing
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QUOTE(kopiride @ Apr 28 2024, 01:08 PM)
I bkn adik u. U otak baby tak berhak panggil orang dik. Nak fokus, fokus kelakuan motor pandu laju. Memang betul perempuan tu jalan atas jalan. Tapi mengapa tak nampak kenderaan lain accident? Kenapa kenderaan lain boleh slow, henti tak langgar apa2? Kenapa motor2 lain juga tak sambung langgar belakang kereta tu. Jawab la soalan ini dulu. Bukti dah ada macam mana motor tu boleh spin bila break. Laju setan. Itulah akibatnya..baby boy, faham tak?
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Eeeee ploteknya. Harap lain kali kalau bini kau diri atas jalan kena langgar sami jadi human paste.
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wonder if /k will be this interested in this topic if the couple were malay and the biker china

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QUOTE(syahmie8 @ Apr 28 2024, 01:16 PM)
Wahai adik adik sekalian. Polis pun dah tahan perempuan itu atas kapasiti punca nahas maut. Sudah2 lah.
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In accident police will always tahan all party involve. Lol

But too bad rempit dah jadi gulai masak merah tak boleh tahan bagi keterangan

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 12:23 PM)
Yes, I also don't ride because in any accident, motor will die.

Accident alone also die. Example langgar pokok

Accident with others also die. Example langgar lorry

No accident also die. Example fall down from bike.

Actually current situation is also not accident because he no langgar Triton also. He jatuh sendiri.
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I wanted to ask u initially, do you drive or ride with regard to zoning out. It's a death sentence to ride and zone out.
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maybe not because no malaysian died. only china people died. we don't really care
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Person above you saying you are tahi anjing for fitnah superbike driving too fast

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The rider knew the risk n enjoyed taking the risk/the thrill/the danger.
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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 28 2024, 01:12 PM)
Eeeee ploteknya. Harap lain kali kalau bini kau diri atas jalan kena langgar sami jadi human paste.
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Wawawa ....need to take a chill pill there....
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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Apr 28 2024, 11:51 AM)
Safe speed =/ langgar speed limit

Now these retard accusation on the deceased driving more than speed limit
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Look at the video
Triton came to a full stop for 12 seconds
The fella was daydreaming? He braked so hard the bike flipped, he wasn’t in control nor travelling at a safe speed to be able to stop safely.
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QUOTE(kopiride @ Apr 28 2024, 01:08 PM)
I bkn adik u. U otak baby tak berhak panggil orang dik. Nak fokus, fokus kelakuan motor pandu laju. Memang betul perempuan tu jalan atas jalan. Tapi mengapa tak nampak kenderaan lain accident? Kenapa kenderaan lain boleh slow, henti tak langgar apa2? Kenapa motor2 lain juga tak sambung langgar belakang kereta tu. Jawab la soalan ini dulu. Bukti dah ada macam mana motor tu boleh spin bila break. Laju setan. Itulah akibatnya..baby boy, faham tak?
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Ayam 2nd u
Safe distance sudah ada between hilak n moto
Moto got enough time to slow
But he only brake at behind hilak
That why he fly
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You cannot control trees falling down on the highway or a woman standing in the middle of the road.
What you can control is your speed, why the 2 cars ahead of motobodo can slow down and stop safely but the motobodo cannot?
All are subject to the same traffic laws.
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I wanted to ask u initially, do you drive or ride with regard to zoning out. It's a death sentence to ride and zone out.
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QUOTE(syahmie8 @ Apr 28 2024, 12:52 PM)
Adik. Jangan nak pusing cerita dik. Jangan "kalau" banyak sangat. Kita fokus dekat isu ni. Dekat cerita ni sekarang tak ada accident ke, pokok tumbang ke, orang mati tengah jalan ke.. Itu semua tiada dekat cerita sekarang ni. Kita fokus kepada kenapa perempuan itu pergi berdiri tengah jalan sana? Tiada sebab untuk dia berdiri macam tu dekat situ untuk bagi kereta lain berhenti. Jauh sangat kau pergi tu dik. Sekarang ni memang ada bukti video yang perempuan itu suka2 berdiri tengah jalan. Jadi perempuan tu dah jadi punca pertama berlaku kejadian ni. Sebelum punca kedua iaitu kelajuan.
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I guess basically there are 2 thoughts on this case. Once is yours, and another is, more of:

Perempuan punca pertama kenapa pickup truck berhenti.

Punca pertama kenapa moto langgar pickup truck: moto tak sempat berhenti.

I personally feel everyone should take the responsibility.
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so what your comment on the woman crossing? dia tak salah la?
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Women also salah. But this accident seems can be avoided.
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Why need so long in right lane? No obstruction already, why not just resume journey as normal? 6-7 secs not enough to speed up? Cannot speed up then why stay in right lane? Lane hogging for what?
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Yup and it remains to be seen. But we are free to discuss. That's the purpose of this forum. No need to be angry and hurl personal insults. ☺️
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No insult. U r the one insulting other people intelligent with your overly protective argument. Plotek something that is unplotectable. Question this and that to justify your arguement
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Apr 28 2024, 02:30 PM)
No insult. U r the one insulting other people intelligent with your overly protective argument. Plotek something that is unplotectable. Question this and that to justify your arguement
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Overly protective ? How protective ? Can you define where i was overly protective?

I presented my case with very specific reference to details of the case. If people don't agree , then talk about the case details.

But noooo.....all the reply was protek, butthurt, racist, idiot. That is the only retort people can muster.

Think carefully and read the thread. I just put in my opinion and thoughts. There are also many counter opinion, did i go debate every counter opinion and try to shut them up? Observe ! Majority people able to discuss with me maturely without insults. Only a couple cannot taha my opinion and proceed to make personal attacks. Then counter it with facts la.

Yes i did say may ktards fail critical thinking. Not directed at anyone personally. But siapa makan cili, .....

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QUOTE(akecema @ Apr 28 2024, 01:44 PM)
Ayam 2nd u
Safe distance sudah ada between hilak n moto
Moto got enough time to slow
But he only brake at behind hilak
That why he fly
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This. I agree fully
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If you can unintentionally experience zone out, surely here are others experiencing zone outs too. Looking back at accident cases where drivers runs into bikers or other drivers at intersections in broad daylight, I wonder how many of such accidents are really attributed to zone out. Now I understand how words like tiba tiba are found in police reports.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 28 2024, 03:47 PM)
If you can unintentionally experience zone out, surely here are others experiencing zone outs too. Looking back at accident cases where drivers runs into bikers or other drivers at intersections in broad daylight, I wonder how many of such accidents are really attributed to zone out. Now I understand how words like tiba tiba are found in police reports.
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You never zone out before?

I thought everyone zone out

Especially if the aircons blow at you so comfortable and your mind wonder around until zone out.
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cukur ktards not racist unlike that X and fb comment  brows.gif  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 03:54 PM)
You never zone out before?

I thought everyone zone out

Especially if the aircons blow at you so comfortable and your mind wonder around until zone out.
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Riding dare to zone out meh ? Sure mampos long time ago liao lo.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 28 2024, 03:47 PM)
If you can unintentionally experience zone out, surely here are others experiencing zone outs too. Looking back at accident cases where drivers runs into bikers or other drivers at intersections in broad daylight, I wonder how many of such accidents are really attributed to zone out. Now I understand how words like tiba tiba are found in police reports.
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I think you are right.

I supposed some are from zone out

But we will never know because nobody will admit they zone out
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 28 2024, 03:47 PM)
If you can unintentionally experience zone out, surely here are others experiencing zone outs too. Looking back at accident cases where drivers runs into bikers or other drivers at intersections in broad daylight, I wonder how many of such accidents are really attributed to zone out. Now I understand how words like tiba tiba are found in police reports.
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Isn’t part of driving is guarding against zoning out and when you feel like you’re unable to control zoning out then it’s time to take a break?
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Apr 28 2024, 11:19 AM)
9m2w come read this news report

I see the motobike hit the car on the right, but report says hit the stopped car on left.
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Trying to cram too much info in as little sentences

Sometimes no choice expand more only

I wonder if editors pressure their writers to summarise as much as possible. All papers seem to have this problem, no comment on vernacular ones as I can't read
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 03:54 PM)
You never zone out before?

I thought everyone zone out

Especially if the aircons blow at you so comfortable and your mind wonder around until zone out.
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Especially between 4-6pm, with setting sun eye level
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 28 2024, 03:55 PM)
Riding dare to zone out meh ? Sure mampos long time ago liao lo.
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Oh you are riding . I see I see

Be careful bro. Riding is dangerous

QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 28 2024, 06:42 PM)
Especially between 4-6pm, with setting sun eye level
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So how you fight it? Turn up the radio or stop at road side ? 😔
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 28 2024, 06:28 PM)
Isn’t part of driving is guarding against zoning out and when you feel like you’re unable to control zoning out then it’s time to take a break?
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Maybe I am lucky not to experience a problem so bad, that zones me out unconsciously. Anyway being on the road requires maximum attention already from me as I need to prempt everyone's move, that alone it's impossible to zone into anything else. The only time I can let my guard down, is when I am away from traffic flow while awaiting for the lights to turn green.

I reckon what vapanel wrote has some truth too. If you have the aircond blowing nice cold air and with ones favourite music playing, I think it's easy to zone out and possibly lose minute details of traffic. That is why my entertainment unit is always off when I drive, so that there is nothing to distract my attention.

Besides that, I am close to retirement already and so I don't have that much problems compared to those starting out in life. Since we are on zoning out, I wonder micro sleep can also be considered zoning out or maybe time out. Kena that before and I made sure I never did that the same shit again. Once is enough.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 07:01 PM)
Oh you are riding . I see I see

Be careful bro. Riding is dangerous
So how you fight it? Turn up the radio or stop at road side ? 😔
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Initially I only drove because of the dangers associated with riding. However overtime the advantages of riding outweigh the disadvantages and I now I like riding more than driving. What I can sum up is, riding makes me a better driver, as it makes me focus more on things I never thought about while I was driving.

Regarding problem solving, my method is similar to dickybird's, take a break. Come back with a fresh mind and you will solve the issue much easier.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 28 2024, 07:02 PM)
Maybe I am lucky not to experience a problem so bad, that zones me out unconsciously. Anyway being on the road requires maximum attention already from me as I need to prempt everyone's move, that alone it's impossible to zone into anything else. The only time I can let my guard down, is when I am away from traffic flow while awaiting for the lights to turn green.

I reckon what vapanel wrote has some truth too. If you have the aircond blowing nice cold air and with ones favourite music playing, I think it's easy to zone out and possibly lose minute details of traffic. That is why my entertainment unit is always off when I drive, so that there is nothing to distract my attention.

Besides that, I am close to retirement already and so I don't have that much problems compared to those starting out in life. Since we are on zoning out, I wonder micro sleep can also be considered zoning out or maybe time out. Kena that before and I made sure I never did that the same shit again. Once is enough.
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Micro sleep is different. Micro sleep is the worse because you are dozing off already

Zoning out is your body still automatically driving the car (leg still press petrol) but your mind is elsewhere
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 28 2024, 06:39 PM)
Trying to cram too much info in as little sentences

Sometimes no choice expand more only

I wonder if editors pressure their writers to summarise as much as possible. All papers seem to have this problem, no comment on vernacular ones as I can't read
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Seems like the reporter didnt even watch the vid and assumed the bike hit the onty's car on the left
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 07:01 PM)
So how you fight it? Turn up the radio or stop at road side ? 😔
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Off aircon, glass window down, let the cross wind, the noise gust in.
Cabin cool aircon gonna make you zone out (micro sleep)

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 07:14 PM)
Micro sleep is different. Micro sleep is the worse because you are  dozing off already

Zoning out is your body still automatically driving the car (leg still press petrol) but your mind is elsewhere
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That's why I stopped immediately. Never again will I drive during bedtime. It has to do with our body sleeping pattern. I don't remember the exact words. Was young and stupid.

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 07:14 PM)
Micro sleep is different. Micro sleep is the worse because you are  dozing off already

Zoning out is your body still automatically driving the car (leg still press petrol) but your mind is elsewhere
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Limpeh here zone out damn many times already, even when journey is almost 2 hours. By the time reach, ayam wonder how ayam reach the destination also.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 28 2024, 06:42 PM)
Especially between 4-6pm, with setting sun eye level
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Don't remember where I read but during dusk time, it records the highest number of accidents compared to other times of the day..
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Isn’t part of driving is guarding against zoning out and when you feel like you’re unable to control zoning out then it’s time to take a break?
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 28 2024, 07:42 PM)
Off aircon, glass window down, let the cross wind, the noise gust in.
Cabin cool aircon gonna make you zone out (micro sleep)
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Yes aircond make you doze off

Anyway some people might experience zone out without microsleep

We just drift away thinking about something while partial of our brain still driving the car

QUOTE(ry8128 @ Apr 28 2024, 07:59 PM)
Limpeh here zone out damn many times already, even when journey is almost 2 hours. By the time reach, ayam wonder how ayam reach the destination also.
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Serious? Lol

Normal zone out probably few minutes and you come back and terkejut lol
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 07:14 PM)
Micro sleep is different. Micro sleep is the worse because you are  dozing off already

Zoning out is your body still automatically driving the car (leg still press petrol) but your mind is elsewhere
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I microslept before on federal highway right lane. I was so tired but the ac was so nice and the music literally took me into another space.

Bam!! Woke up. I hit the car in front. Luckily it was traffic jam hours and the guy just let it passed. I wouldn't know what would happen if the traffic was empty.

Told myself that day onward. If I'm really tired, just stop somewhere and take a good nap first. Don't risk your life while driving.
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Women also salah. But this accident seems can be avoided.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 28 2024, 07:42 PM)
Off aircon, glass window down, let the cross wind, the noise gust in.
Cabin cool aircon gonna make you zone out (micro sleep)
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Apr 28 2024, 07:59 PM)
Limpeh here zone out damn many times already, even when journey is almost 2 hours. By the time reach, ayam wonder how ayam reach the destination also.
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Zombie driver haha



QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 28 2024, 08:06 PM)
I microslept before on federal highway right lane. I was so tired but the ac was so nice and the music literally took me into another space.

Bam!! Woke up. I hit the car in front. Luckily it was traffic jam hours and the guy just let it passed. I wouldn't know what would happen if the traffic was empty.

Told myself that day onward. If I'm really tired, just stop somewhere and take a good nap first. Don't risk your life while driving.
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Very dangerous

Ya need to nap

Maybe the Superbike zone out
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 28 2024, 08:11 PM)
Zombie driver haha


Very dangerous

Ya need to nap

Maybe the Superbike zone out
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Yup. Your body just move automatically without you realising. Traffic light, u stop. Junction, u turn. Car in front, u slow down, all automatic. When u reach the destination and try to recall your jouney, totally zero.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 06:26 PM)
Alot of ktard fail in critical thinking.

The woman crossed the highway. That is wrong.

But the bike's accident was the indirect cause, not a direct cause. So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike.

If the scenario was different, say the triton experienced a catastrophic engine failure and come to total halt, will the result be different. Will the result be different? Answer this.
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your so called intellectual arguement below is flaw. topkek. law also don't know, still dare to say other no critical thinking.

"So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike."
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The motor is too fast.. the car has already slow down
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QUOTE(Koranshita @ Apr 28 2024, 10:55 PM)
The motor is too fast.. the car has already slow down
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yeah...can see the hilux also puzzled what to do.
he saw the motor went too fast from behind. he does not sure whether he should go to the other lane or maintain the lane
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 28 2024, 02:36 PM)
Overly protective ? How protective ? Can you define where i was overly protective?

I presented my case with very specific reference to details of the case. If people don't  agree , then talk about the case details.

But noooo.....all the reply was protek, butthurt, racist, idiot. That is the only retort people can muster.

Think carefully and read the thread. I just put in my opinion and thoughts. There are also many counter opinion, did i go debate every counter opinion and try to shut them up? Observe ! Majority people able to discuss with me maturely without insults. Only a couple cannot taha my opinion and proceed to make personal attacks. Then counter it with facts la.

Yes i did say may ktards fail critical thinking. Not directed at anyone personally. But siapa makan cili, .....
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Apr 28 2024, 10:54 PM)
your so called intellectual arguement below is flaw. topkek. law also don't know, still dare to say other no critical thinking.

"So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike."
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Oh take one sentence and frame it as you like ?
Take the entirety of my points. I said clearly she is an indirect cause, not a direct cause. Never even read the whole context of the stamement and try to twist. I also see many others already catch on to the point but you are still living in your own bias.
You need to do better.

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 28 2024, 11:02 PM)
Oh take one sentence and frame it as you like ?
Take the entirety of my points. I said clearly she is an indirect cause, not a direct cause. Never even read the whole context of the stamement and try to twist. I also see many others already catch on to the point but you are still living in your own bias.
You need to do better.
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plotek all u like, people like u even later judge have put his judgement, u will still argue with your so called "critical thinking". topkek.
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i wonder if a cow suddenly cross the road, and the hillux suddenly brake.
will netizen blame the cow?
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retard gila woman
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Apr 28 2024, 11:05 PM)
plotek all u like, people like u even later judge have put his judgement, u will still argue with your so called "critical thinking". topkek.
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I want to state my case, you sakit hati ?
Got so many comments here with more antagonistic language used, but i wonder why nobody bats an eye, but my comment which tries to disect the problem to its most basic factors, all sakit hati and attack.


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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Apr 28 2024, 11:05 PM)
i wonder if a cow suddenly cross the road, and the hillux suddenly brake.
will netizen blame the cow?
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Im sure a human is smarter than a cow so the expectation is for a human to use common sense
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Apr 28 2024, 11:05 PM)
i wonder if a cow suddenly cross the road, and the hillux suddenly brake.
will netizen blame the cow?
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Won't blame the cow but rather maybe the cow's owner. In law there's a term called "res ipsa loquitur"

For this case, depends on the lawyer how they argue the case and the judge how he views the events.

Can argue the lady indirect cause the accident because she suddenly ran to the highway.

Can also argue that the bike has a duty of safety and suppose to have margin of safety and break in an event of emergency (as in was he driving recklessly? Speeding too fast?)

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QUOTE(lorrydriverrocks @ Apr 28 2024, 11:19 PM)
Im sure a human is smarter than a cow so the expectation is for a human to use common sense
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human is an animal taht possess intelect. but once they are under emotional control, they will act like any animal do.
thats why if u want to manipulate other people, twist their emotion first, then they will start react like animal n forgot to use their intellect.

thats why bila abang ckp, nanti abang padam video, easy got fooled
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Apr 28 2024, 11:05 PM)
i wonder if a cow suddenly cross the road, and the hillux suddenly brake.
will netizen blame the cow?
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Cow doesnt have brain. Do you know that?
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actually can charge the woman or just a fine slap like obstruction of traffic?

have similar situation like people illegal uturn then behind car brake and kena bang or people brake check and then car behind kena bang

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lets go check using rapuji formula

base on video from hilak stop to motor fly is about 6 sec
lets say moto speed is 140kmj so in second mean travel about 36meter/sec
mean if 6 second distance between motor in hilux is 233meter

not enough distance to slow down n stop for superbike from 233meter?

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The speeding rider killed as a result of the 4x4 stopped in the middle of the road. But then the 4x4 stopped because a cibai woman was attempting suicide by running into the road hoping the 4x4 crash9 her.

Why la the cibai women running there la, she should be charge
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QUOTE(jonthebaptist @ Apr 28 2024, 11:18 PM)
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QUOTE(akecema @ Apr 29 2024, 09:34 AM)
lets go check using rapuji formula

base on video from hilak stop to motor fly is about 6 sec
lets say moto speed is 140kmj so in second mean travel about 36meter/sec
mean if 6 second distance between motor in hilux is 233meter

not enough distance to slow down n stop for superbike from 233meter?
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Macam enuf lar but we can argue until the cows come or rapiji insaf

But primary cause of accident was women causing hilux to come to total stop on highway. If not for that dumb b* the rider would still be alive
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QUOTE(old_timer @ Apr 28 2024, 08:06 PM)
of course it can be avoided being the woman doesn't cross the hiway.
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Ppl dont know your mother is women. Stupid things happen everywhere everytime. We need to be alert of our surroundings. Hilux able to stop in time and double signal..why the motor no time? Obviously he is speeding and dont pay attention.
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QUOTE(milky12388 @ Apr 29 2024, 09:41 AM)
The speeding rider killed as a result of the 4x4 stopped in the middle of the road. But then the 4x4 stopped because a cibai woman was attempting suicide by running into the road hoping the 4x4 crash9 her.

Why la the cibai women running there la, she should be charge
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when you not following the law aka the road speed, then you cannot blame others already at all. As motor you only should drive 70-90km/h for safety as safe enough to stop at any circumstances.
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I have rewatch the vid including the slow mo.

I can see the bike rear flip to the front, it hit landed the road and flip bounced again to impact the rear of pickup before it roll over into the rear carriage of pickup.

What i am unable to see clearly was the rider. Did the rider follow thru the sequence? Or was he on impact 1) with the bike impacted onto him from the 1st flip on the road or 2) impacted together with the bike onto the rear of pickup thereafter or 3) rider's direct impact on the rear of pickup first before his machine impacted onto him at the rear or 4) the rider did not bodily impact the rear of pickup but only his machine or 5) the rider has disengaged from the machine prior to first flip?

Anyone with good eye managed to see the vid clearly?

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Apr 28 2024, 11:05 PM)
i wonder if a cow suddenly cross the road, and the hillux suddenly brake.
will netizen blame the cow?
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Gomen put 110km/h does not mean it is a safe speed. The safest still 70-80 at least can survive most probably. Any speed more than that you are taking your own risk of getting serious injury already due to whatever circumstances may arise like cow or human crossing the road illegally. But if more than 110 then its even worst as may not survive ..

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55 mph is around 88km/h

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2024, 06:26 PM)
Alot of ktard fail in critical thinking.

The woman crossed the highway. That is wrong.

But the bike's accident was the indirect cause, not a direct cause. So the woman cannot be blamed for the accident on the bike.

If the scenario was different, say the triton experienced a catastrophic engine failure and come to total halt, will the result be different. Will the result be different? Answer this.
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Kinda agree and disagree though. While I agree the biker has skills problem the woman is still the cause. 2 lane expressway and speed is something to expect especially - wtf is the woman doing crossing the road and interrupt the flow for.

Would argue that say the woman existence was totally out of place, the 4wd would had been far ahead, and the biker would likely not collided into the the 4wd as shown in the video.

Both the woman and the biker are wrong, but one end up dead and another getting defended and will celebrated when she goes free - which will set similar precedence of road offenses in the future.

Might as well say the lajakers that end up dead aren't in the wrong at the first place.

QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 27 2024, 07:13 PM)
But video show nobody crossing.
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Dafuq?

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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Apr 29 2024, 11:24 AM)
Kinda agree and disagree though. While I agree the biker has skills problem the woman is still the cause. 2 lane expressway and speed is something to expect especially - wtf is the woman doing crossing the road and interrupt the flow for.

Would argue that say the woman existence was totally out of place, the 4wd would had been far ahead, and the biker would likely not collided into the the 4wd as shown in the video.

Both the woman and the biker are wrong, but one end up dead and another getting defended and will celebrated when she goes free - which will set similar precedence of road offenses in the future.

Might as well say the lajakers that end up dead aren't in the wrong at the first place.
Dafuq?
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Not sure why people keep on saying she is being defended. General consensus here is that she is wrong.
Again, in simple terms, how wrong is she ? On a more technical term, wrong on what account ?
Traffic violation or involuntary manslaughter ? That would be a more productive and interest discussion.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 29 2024, 10:53 AM)
I have rewatch the vid including the slow mo.

I can see the bike rear flip to the front, it hit landed the road and flip bounced again to impact the rear of pickup before it roll over into the rear carriage of pickup.

What i am unable to see clearly was the rider. Did the rider follow thru the sequence? Or was he on impact 1) with the bike impacted onto him from the 1st flip on the road or 2) impacted together with the bike onto the rear of pickup thereafter or 3) rider's direct impact on the rear of pickup first before his machine impacted onto him at the rear or 4) the rider did not bodily impact the rear of pickup but only his machine or 5) the rider has disengaged from the machine prior to first flip?

Anyone with good eye managed to see the vid clearly?
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His body was thrown and made direct impact with the Triton's body
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 29 2024, 11:45 AM)
Not sure why people keep on saying she is being defended. General consensus here is that she is wrong.
Again, in simple terms, how wrong is she ? On a more technical term, wrong on what account ?
Traffic violation or involuntary manslaughter ? That would be a more productive and interest discussion.
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At least 3rd degree murder as what she committed such a dangerous act with no regards of others, which in fact causing a lost of life.

She was totally blameless if she had not caused the 4wd to stop and start slow, let her be an example to all other dumbfucks not to cross designated roads that are not for pedestrian passing.
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QUOTE(akecema @ Apr 29 2024, 09:34 AM)
lets go check using rapuji formula

base on video from hilak stop to motor fly is about 6 sec
lets say moto speed is 140kmj so in second mean travel about 36meter/sec
mean if 6 second distance between motor in hilux is 233meter

not enough distance to slow down n stop for superbike from 233meter?
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Maybe faster than 140km/j

QUOTE(milky12388 @ Apr 29 2024, 09:41 AM)
The speeding rider killed as a result of the 4x4 stopped in the middle of the road. But then the 4x4 stopped because a cibai woman was attempting suicide by running into the road hoping the 4x4 crash9 her.

Why la the cibai women running there la, she should be charge
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You can blame until the cow comes home but the superbiker still dead because he drove fast and furious

QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 29 2024, 09:49 AM)
Macam enuf lar but we can argue until the cows come or rapiji insaf

But primary cause of accident was women causing hilux to come to total stop on highway. If not for that dumb b* the rider would still be alive
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You can blame until the cow comes home but the superbiker still dead because he drove fast and furious

QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 29 2024, 10:53 AM)
I have rewatch the vid including the slow mo.

I can see the bike rear flip to the front, it hit landed the road and flip bounced again to impact the rear of pickup before it roll over into the rear carriage of pickup.

What i am unable to see clearly was the rider. Did the rider follow thru the sequence? Or was he on impact 1) with the bike impacted onto him from the 1st flip on the road or 2) impacted together with the bike onto the rear of pickup thereafter or 3) rider's direct impact on the rear of pickup first before his machine impacted onto him at the rear or 4) the rider did not bodily impact the rear of pickup but only his machine or 5) the rider has disengaged from the machine prior to first flip?

Anyone with good eye managed to see the vid clearly?
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I think when it flip, the biker straight thrown to the front and the helmet fly off.


QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 29 2024, 11:57 AM)
I just want to ask what is this job pemuzik with DBKL.
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Drummer for rtm kot
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Apr 29 2024, 12:05 PM)
At least 3rd degree murder as what she committed such a dangerous act with no regards of others, which in fact causing a lost of life.

She was totally blameless if she had not caused the 4wd to stop and start slow, let her be an example to all other dumbfucks not to cross designated roads that are not for pedestrian passing.
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Sure

You can blame until the cow comes home but the superbiker still dead because he drove fast and furious

As other said, in the future it could be cow

It could be tyre

And the superbiker still dead

I think people like you protect superbiker because you are motobodo also.

Are you motobodo?
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 29 2024, 12:06 PM)
Maybe faster than 140km/j
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yeah. i know
just to make safe ' formula'

if i see the stop to hit is about 8 sec - so 6 second consider 'safe'
speed i think >150kmj but 'safe' can consider 140kmj

still, 233meter cant slow and stop the bike?
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 29 2024, 12:06 PM)
Maybe faster than 140km/j
You can blame until the cow comes home but the superbiker still dead because he drove fast and furious
You can blame until the cow comes home but the superbiker still dead because he drove fast and furious
I think when it flip, the biker straight thrown to the front and the helmet fly off.
Drummer for rtm kot
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QUOTE(akecema @ Apr 29 2024, 09:34 AM)
lets go check using rapuji formula

base on video from hilak stop to motor fly is about 6 sec
lets say moto speed is 140kmj so in second mean travel about 36meter/sec
mean if 6 second distance between motor in hilux is 233meter

not enough distance to slow down n stop for superbike from 233meter?
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Saw someone did calculation in reddit but comment chain deleted. Basically cannot. But definitely possible to swerve around given the same presumed speed and braking distance/time of reaction. Even more reaction time available if dude actually alert and noticed the double signal.

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 29 2024, 12:07 PM)
Sure

You can blame until the cow comes home but the superbiker still dead because he drove fast and furious

As other said,  in the future it could be cow

It could be tyre

And the superbiker still dead

I think people like you protect superbiker because you are motobodo also.

Are you motobodo?
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What did I wrote that protect that motobodo? Even idiots would had known that I always say a good motobodo is a dead one. Are you worse than them?

Why would you bring cows, a being without road conscience just for argument's sake?
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Apr 29 2024, 10:48 AM)
when you not following the law aka the road speed, then you cannot blame others already at all. As motor you only should drive 70-90km/h for safety as safe enough to stop at any circumstances.
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If the rider survives, he continues to bear the responsibility and must faces the consequences of his actions. In this case, the rider has already RIP for his behavior.

As for the cibai woman, should she face charges for running into the middle of the road? Her reckless behavior resulted in the 4x4 vehicle being hit by the rider
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ktard comes again with their stupid reasoning.

last time basikal lajak hit by amoi, all come defending the car blaming the kids.

now moto literally jumped off the road cos braking too hard, but blame the biker instead. isit because she's chinese?

its a freaking highway on speed lane for fuck sake. even if a car tailgating back there for sure hantam everything


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As usual. bodo K/ blame the victin just to suppork their mainland relative.


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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Apr 29 2024, 01:37 PM)
ktard comes again with their stupid reasoning.

last time basikal lajak hit by amoi, all come defending the car blaming the kids.

now moto literally jumped off the road cos braking too hard, but blame the biker instead. isit because she's chinese?

its a freaking highway on speed lane for fuck sake. even if a car tailgating back there for sure hantam everything
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QUOTE(kotaro_minami @ Apr 29 2024, 02:14 PM)
As usual. bodo K/ blame the victin just to suppork their mainland relative.
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Wrong

K only say the rational things

Example,

1. Basikal lajak deserve to die because they are nuisance and cause accident

2. Speeding demon deserve to die if they cannot stop on time

If the mainland china gf die after hit by Triton, K will also said she deserve to die

I think you both are racist


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Asal chinese buat hal K sure protect one.. going by k logic then budak lajak is not at fault at all so the chinese driver should be 302kk la.. so are we gonna change the narrative due to chinese ? suda buat keja salah last2 kluar kad oku.. protect until no brain cell left izzit..
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QUOTE(dabudin @ Apr 29 2024, 02:36 PM)
Asal chinese buat hal K sure protect one.. going by k logic then budak lajak is not at fault at all so the chinese driver should be 302kk la.. so are we gonna change the narrative due to chinese ? suda buat keja salah last2 kluar kad oku..  protect until no brain cell left izzit..
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No

Anyone die means their fault for not protecting their own life

Lajak dead
Speeder dead

Itu Jer


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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Apr 29 2024, 01:37 PM)
ktard comes again with their stupid reasoning.

last time basikal lajak hit by amoi, all come defending the car blaming the kids.

now moto literally jumped off the road cos braking too hard, but blame the biker instead. isit because she's chinese?

its a freaking highway on speed lane for fuck sake. even if a car tailgating back there for sure hantam everything


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count how many other road user able to stop when there is obstacle on the road?

how many is overspeeding?

which road user driving as if it's their grandfather road?

btw, if the amoi summersault a few times, she also deserve it.
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Gila racist bringing race into the picture. Anyone who watched the video of this incident can clearly see that the woman was no longer on the road, the Triton had given signal and slowed, dashcam car also slowed down, yet the motor didn't slow down at all and lost control. Unfortunately he paid with his life.
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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Apr 29 2024, 01:37 PM)
ktard comes again with their stupid reasoning.

last time basikal lajak hit by amoi, all come defending the car blaming the kids.

now moto literally jumped off the road cos braking too hard, but blame the biker instead. isit because she's chinese?

its a freaking highway on speed lane for fuck sake. even if a car tailgating back there for sure hantam everything


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Different mindset

Chinese mindset is like your life is your own responsibility.
Malay mindset is like your life is every other responsibility

Because of different mindset, we see thing differently.

Because regardless whether cow, tyre, dead body, wani lari bogel bertetek, because the motorbike drive fast, it crashes.

Imagine thing happen the same thing, but this time, the motorbike drive slowly, things are changing

At the end of the story... Tak kisah lah who Bodo, at the end because of that Bodo, u have to suffer the pain, n lost
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post Apr 29 2024, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(The_Special_One @ Apr 29 2024, 04:23 PM)
Gila racist bringing race into the picture. Anyone who watched the video of this incident can clearly see that the woman was no longer on the road, the Triton had given signal and slowed, dashcam car also slowed down, yet the motor didn't slow down at all and lost control. Unfortunately he paid with his life.
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post Apr 29 2024, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(The_Special_One @ Apr 29 2024, 04:23 PM)
Gila racist bringing race into the picture. Anyone who watched the video of this incident can clearly see that the woman was no longer on the road, the Triton had given signal and slowed, dashcam car also slowed down, yet the motor didn't slow down at all and lost control. Unfortunately he paid with his life.
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did u know when u hard brake the hazard light will auto on on modern car?

acik kau slowed. that was almost stand still on fast lane. the woman literally next to triton, who the fuck cares if the woman not on the road, she was obstructing the traffic, fast lane highway summore

call me racist im just pointing out pattern. if youre not racist then no need to triggered, it wasnt for u pun

how does it feel when someone else point how racist you guys are? two wrong does no tmake things right.

stop complaining how fucked up malaysia is, while every bit of racial tension coming from all religion and races
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QUOTE(The_Special_One @ Apr 29 2024, 04:23 PM)
Gila racist bringing race into the picture. Anyone who watched the video of this incident can clearly see that the woman was no longer on the road, the Triton had given signal and slowed, dashcam car also slowed down, yet the motor didn't slow down at all and lost control. Unfortunately he paid with his life.
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ayam watched the video..the woman still in the middle on the road when the pickup come
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post Apr 29 2024, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Apr 29 2024, 05:29 PM)
kepala hotak kau. if someday someone stab u with knife isit your fault? u reverse car ur kid on the back bang and dead would u blame the parents or the kids?

ye la chinese mindset your life your own responsibility why dont u dodge?

different mindset my ass
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Using stupid analogy to justify your racism

I laughed a bit


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post Apr 29 2024, 05:40 PM

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amoi mental got fault... but if u go fb, no one mention how fast the bike was going... if see from bideo he has to emergency brake and still flying
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post Apr 29 2024, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(atook @ Apr 29 2024, 05:28 PM)
ayam watched the video..the woman still in the middle on the road when the pickup come
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Hello you think that place is for you to speed? That 1 is not a race track. Even race track also will have all the safety measure like no big car around.
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post Apr 29 2024, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Apr 29 2024, 05:25 PM)
did u know when u hard brake the hazard light will auto on on modern car?

acik kau slowed. that was almost stand still on fast lane. the woman literally next to triton, who the fuck cares if the woman not on the road, she was obstructing the traffic, fast lane highway summore

call me racist im just pointing out pattern. if youre not racist then no need to triggered, it wasnt for u pun

how does it feel when someone else point how racist you guys are? two wrong does no tmake things right.

stop complaining how fucked up malaysia is, while every bit of racial tension coming from all religion and races
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Xyah nk tegakkan benang yg basah, tgk video tu btul2, pompuan tu dh xde dkt jalan pon masa motor tu xcident, motor bawa laju sgt sampai tercampak.

Ko mengaku racist ke ni? Boleh bgtau x ape kaitkan xcident ni dgn bangsa? You guys tu siapa?
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where is the video where she is crossing the road?
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Apr 29 2024, 05:48 PM)
Hello you think that place is for you to speed? That 1 is not a race track. Even race track also will have all the safety measure like no big car around.
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agree with you but can you walk there also?
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QUOTE(atook @ Apr 29 2024, 05:57 PM)
agree with you but can you walk there also?
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Its not relevant actually, but no harm to ask the girl what she was doing there? Dropped her marriage cincin there is it?

This post has been edited by Accord2018: Apr 29 2024, 06:00 PM
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post Apr 29 2024, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(The_Special_One @ Apr 29 2024, 05:54 PM)
Xyah nk tegakkan benang yg basah, tgk video tu btul2, pompuan tu dh xde dkt jalan pon masa motor tu xcident, motor bawa laju sgt sampai tercampak.

Ko mengaku racist ke ni? Boleh bgtau x ape kaitkan xcident ni dgn bangsa? You guys tu siapa?
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read the title bro. wanita lintas jalan. bukan wanita tepi jalan

i watch the video and thats my opinion. aku tanya apa justifikasi blame the rider? when basikal lajak case we all whole hearted defend the girl including me.

highway is not for basikal lajak, not for indian drama or chinese tvb

soalan yang lagi satu tu kau fikir la sendiri. whatever u think im referring to is none of my concern
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one thing I like Lowyat here... is that.. here the member are discuss with sense and clever. They know how to judge what is wrong and right. I was page about....11 starting. I read many very good reasoning reply. So, as a old uncle here...i am happy. because you guys can judge accurately who and what is wrong and right. Good to bolehland...

so... make it simple is.... motorbike rider is at fault indeed. you drive the motor, you control the speed. If you unable to control your speed, it is better do not drive on the road. This is very simple logic. of course, one life is lost. rip.

about that woman? fuck her.... she is just being stupid on the road. She is lucky that not becoming a victim on the road only.

about the pickup driver. Yes... another idiot on the road. Althought he got give signal slowing down. but heck!!! you know where you are? you slow does not mean others can see you. If they can see you does not meant they can stop or slow fast enough.

so.... conclusion is... be careful when you are on the road. not only you are on the road. They are many idiots are on the road too. To avoid is better then regret later.


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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Apr 29 2024, 05:29 PM)
kepala hotak kau. if someday someone stab u with knife isit your fault? u reverse car ur kid on the back bang and dead would u blame the parents or the kids?

ye la chinese mindset your life your own responsibility why dont u dodge?

different mindset my ass
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different scenario n context bro.

because that accident is something that happen indirectly. replace the woman with tyre, wanie404, or cat running, it wont change the fact that the hillux will sudden brake. meanwhile the motorbike can change the outcome if he ride slowly, doesnt speed up. when u speed up more than recommened, u should have own accountability of what gonna happened. when u speed up, u aready take that risk. u already accepted the risk that it was dangerous to go speeding. your life your responsibility.

meanwhile knife and kid is different case also
in the knife scenario, that fella already intended to harm u. it is a deliberate with intentional attempt to hurt u. of course, u still can change the outcome depends on situation. if u go on night, in the dark alley, of courselah u mmg cari pasal. why go place with high risk

meanwhile for the kid, the kid has no brain to think. how do u expect the kid to be responsible. the parent should be responsible because it is their responsibility to ensure the kid is safe, esp the fact that they cant think
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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Apr 29 2024, 05:29 PM)
kepala hotak kau. if someday someone stab u with knife isit your fault? u reverse car ur kid on the back bang and dead would u blame the parents or the kids?

ye la chinese mindset your life your own responsibility why dont u dodge?

different mindset my ass
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But in this story is the motor rempit stab the Triton truck with his motor from the back
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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Apr 29 2024, 06:12 PM)
one thing I like Lowyat here... is that.. here the member are discuss with sense and clever. They know how to judge what is wrong and right. I was page about....11 starting. I read many very good reasoning reply. So, as a old uncle here...i am happy. because you guys can judge accurately who and what is wrong and right. Good to bolehland...

so... make it simple is.... motorbike rider is at fault indeed. you drive the motor, you control the speed. If you unable to control your speed, it is better do not drive on the road. This is very simple logic. of course, one life is lost. rip.

about that woman? fuck her.... she is just being stupid on the road. She is lucky that not becoming a victim on the road only.

about the pickup driver. Yes... another idiot on the road. Althought he got give signal slowing down. but heck!!! you know where you are? you slow does not mean others can see you. If they can see you does not meant they can stop or slow fast enough.

so.... conclusion is... be careful when you are on the road. not only you are on the road. They are many idiots are on the road too. To avoid is better then regret later.
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i see the truck know theres a motorbike. but he also panic dont know what to do. should i turn left, should i go straight, that kind of dillema. u can see that the truck is moving forward a bit bit
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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 29 2024, 06:33 PM)
But in this story is the motor rempit stab the Triton truck with his motor from the back
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Only Motor GP race track can speed, not urban road.
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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Apr 29 2024, 06:12 PM)
one thing I like Lowyat here... is that.. here the member are discuss with sense and clever. They know how to judge what is wrong and right. I was page about....11 starting. I read many very good reasoning reply. So, as a old uncle here...i am happy. because you guys can judge accurately who and what is wrong and right. Good to bolehland...

so... make it simple is.... motorbike rider is at fault indeed. you drive the motor, you control the speed. If you unable to control your speed, it is better do not drive on the road. This is very simple logic. of course, one life is lost. rip.

about that woman? fuck her.... she is just being stupid on the road. She is lucky that not becoming a victim on the road only.

about the pickup driver. Yes... another idiot on the road. Althought he got give signal slowing down. but heck!!! you know where you are? you slow does not mean others can see you. If they can see you does not meant they can stop or slow fast enough.

so.... conclusion is... be careful when you are on the road. not only you are on the road. They are many idiots are on the road too. To avoid is better then regret later.
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Why so happy? You can also see a big majority who are closed towards a different point of view and attack you for trying to reason. Nothing will happen if the girl is not there. That is the same point being repeated followed by insults.
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Apr 29 2024, 07:19 PM)


Only Motor GP race track can speed, not urban road.
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Lol the comment



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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Apr 29 2024, 07:24 PM)
Lol the comment
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 29 2024, 11:45 AM)
Not sure why people keep on saying she is being defended. General consensus here is that she is wrong.
Again, in simple terms, how wrong is she ? On a more technical term, wrong on what account ?
Traffic violation or involuntary manslaughter ? That would be a more productive and interest discussion.
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Need to declare loud loud on this before you can say anything else. Otherwise you're considered plotekting the perpetrator/root cause.
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The women is wrong. If the motor don't speed like crazy, he might still alive. If he keep riding at this speed, just the matter of time.
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The woman is wrong. But motobodo going way too fast. It is not how fast you can go, it is how long it takes you to stop.

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if less <3sec when amoi try suicide ken blame that amoi
but after >4 second, that not her wrong already
this case >6 sec


lets say rempit lembu melintas 6 sec ahead, that mean he know he dead?

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i saw the video
women running to fast lane from emergency lane
pickup e-brake
motor was going real fast couldn't do anything


 

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