Anyone Noticed That European Links Went Bad?, Latency >400ms (Update Aft 2 Mths Unrsv)
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 Apr 22 2024, 08:54 PM, updated 2y ago
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Anyone noticed that Malaysian European links have doubled in latency over weekend? Funny thing is that if it is cable cut or severed, it should affect entire region but seems SG looks fine and not affected much even HK which is even further from Europe latency for them is even lower than us.  Why no announcement made or our network administrators still sleeping?  Is there something happening? This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Jun 22 2024, 12:02 AM PRSXFENG liked this post
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Apr 22 2024, 09:07 PM
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so far no compliant to access AWS europe region, means all good for me :X
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Apr 22 2024, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Apr 22 2024, 09:07 PM) so far no compliant to access AWS europe region, means all good for me :X Speeds seem not really affected but the latency can cause authentication failures, dropouts and captcha requests for suspicion. |
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Apr 23 2024, 12:04 AM
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Apr 23 2024, 01:12 AM
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Bangladesh Suffers Internet Outage after SEA-ME-WE 5 Cable Break Telcos say that their mobile services remain unaffected https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...-5-cable-break/ QUOTE As reported by the Daily Star, a Bangladesh newspaper, the breakage occurred just after midnight on April 20. Despite the disruption, which is expected to last for two-three days, the country's telecom providers have not reported any issues, but are monitoring the situation. Bangladesh Submarine Cables PLC (BSCPLC), a stakeholder in SEA-ME-WE 5, said the breakage happened between Singapore and Malaysia. Because of this, all traffic between Singapore and SEA-ME-WE 5’s landing station in Kuakata, Bangladesh, is down. The damage means that Bangladesh has lost 1.7 Tbps of international capacity. The country has been able to source 100 Gbps from the western part of the cable that runs to France. It also has an additional 2.7 Tbps of terrestrial capacity via international terrestrial cable (ITC) license holders that import bandwidth from India. "A ship will be mobilized to repair and restore the service. Total operation will take minimum two to three days," Mirza Kamal Ahmed, managing director of the Bangladesh BSCPLC, told the Daily Star. The traffic has instead been re-routed to the SEA-ME-WE 4 subsea cable, the country's first submarine cable installed in Cox's Bazar. Deployed in 2006, the cable has a capacity of 850 Gbps of bandwidth and has recently been upgraded to a capacity of 3,800 Gbps The SEA-ME-WE-5, which stands for South East Asia - Middle East - Western Europe 5 Submarine Cable System, was completed in 2017 and connects from Europe to Singapore across 20,000km. In November 2022, the SEA-ME-WE 5 cable was severed in Egypt, disrupting several countries including Indonesia, Djibouti, Eritrea, Pakistan, and Yemen. Next year, the SEA-ME-WE 6 cable is set to go live, again connecting Bangladesh, and is set to provide 13,200 Gbps of capacity. Cable breakdown happened somewhere between Malaysia-Singapore as mentioned in the news, but incident wasn't reported to public. There seems to be a coverup and no party is coming out to admit it.  Access is to Europe is uninterrupted but latency has been increased by 2X from the average 230ms to now 400+ms. 13th liked this post
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Apr 23 2024, 05:37 AM
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Why unifi always so many issue
Some siites load very slow while other ok This post has been edited by yolldddd: Apr 23 2024, 05:37 AM |
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Apr 23 2024, 07:36 AM
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no idea eu cable cut problem or not
but clicknupload file download not moving using DiGi Telecommunications Sdn Bhd 4G |
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Apr 23 2024, 07:40 AM
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yeah noticed the slowness in website responses...
makes me feel that the pc is having issues that I have to click twice .. |
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Apr 23 2024, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(JLA @ Apr 23 2024, 07:36 AM) no idea eu cable cut problem or not For me unifi is damn slow like on imgurbut clicknupload file download not moving using DiGi Telecommunications Sdn Bhd 4G But if i switch to digi mobile data damn fast Refer to my post here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109597582 But it seem some site like u say also slow with digi 4g Hmmmmm Looks lika malaysia internet memang hopeless man How to maju like thisss This post has been edited by yolldddd: Apr 23 2024, 07:50 AM |
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Apr 23 2024, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 23 2024, 01:12 AM) Bangladesh Suffers Internet Outage after SEA-ME-WE 5 Cable Break Anything to do with undesea cable faults in our waters can be blamed on Wee Ka Siong and his bullshit cabotage policy.Telcos say that their mobile services remain unaffected https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...-5-cable-break/ Cable breakdown happened somewhere between Malaysia-Singapore as mentioned in the news, but incident wasn't reported to public. There seems to be a coverup and no party is coming out to admit it. Access is to Europe is uninterrupted but latency has been increased by 2X from the average 230ms to now 400+ms. This post has been edited by dev/numb: Apr 23 2024, 05:30 PM |
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Apr 23 2024, 05:37 PM
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EU latency is still very bad today.  All local ISPs who is partner of the SEA-ME-WE 5 undersea cable and uses TI-Sparkle (SEABONE) AS6762 is suffering from very bad EU latency at this moment including TM. Palermo and Marseille are the 2 major cable landing sites (PoPs) in Europe for TI-Sparkle one in South Italy and the other South France.  Besides TM, both YES (AS45960) and U Mobile (AS38466) are big subscribers to TI-Sparkle. Expect bad EU connections when using them. Celcom-DiGi are has the best EU connectivity now. PRSXFENG liked this post
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Apr 25 2024, 09:23 AM
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Wonder when can they fix this issue. My print server is located in Europe and it’s being a big hassle not able to operate properly. :S
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Apr 25 2024, 09:25 AM
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Yes. Realized it last night. Anything to europe was snail paced.
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Apr 25 2024, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Apr 25 2024, 09:23 AM) Wonder when can they fix this issue. My print server is located in Europe and it’s being a big hassle not able to operate properly. :S It happened somewhere between the stretch in between Melaka and Tuas.The longer it takes the more it shows how incompetent and lousy our cable repair response team is. Bad reputation for the country. Even Bangladesh reported this incident in their news but ours just kept quiet about it. |
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Apr 25 2024, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 25 2024, 02:43 PM) It happened somewhere between the stretch in between Melaka and Tuas. I thought was something to do with my office’s network or connection. Did so many “installing”, “uninstalling”, “reinstalling”, plug unplug, reset DNS, reset IP. Even called TM and they said no issue from their end. Wasted an entire day. Gosh.The longer it takes the more it shows how incompetent and lousy our cable repair response team is. Bad reputation for the country. Even Bangladesh reported this incident in their news but ours just kept quiet about it. According to my team, the connections have yet to be resolved. Still slow. How to run a business if the service we are paying for are not doing anything. |
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Apr 25 2024, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Apr 25 2024, 02:48 PM) I thought was something to do with my office’s network or connection. Did so many “installing”, “uninstalling”, “reinstalling”, plug unplug, reset DNS, reset IP. Even called TM and they said no issue from their end. Wasted an entire day. Gosh. Why spend more then on an internet connection?According to my team, the connections have yet to be resolved. Still slow. How to run a business if the service we are paying for are not doing anything. As long as it has good uptime, gets the job done with good speed will do for most of us. 400ms+ average now to EU major destinations. Some close to 500ms inwards such as Switzerland and Austria. |
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Apr 25 2024, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 25 2024, 02:56 PM) Why spend more then on an internet connection? Yeah! So incompetent.As long as it has good uptime, gets the job done with good speed will do for most of us. 400ms+ average now to EU major destinations. Some close to 500ms inwards such as Switzerland and Austria. |
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Apr 25 2024, 08:10 PM
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See also here TIME response to MCMC complaint:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109614445 Theres also other posts on the pages starting 570 of the main topic. This post has been edited by rezzorix: Apr 25 2024, 08:20 PM |
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Apr 26 2024, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ Apr 25 2024, 08:10 PM) See also here TIME response to MCMC complaint: I'm actually very worried about what is going on right now with no official announcement being made or news about this.https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109614445 Theres also other posts on the pages starting 570 of the main topic. Take a good look at this table and tell me is this a big issue and cannot be easily solved?  Logic thinking will tell you that a simply VPN connection to India, Dubai (UAE) or even Israel will solved this problem. But check out yourself and do a ping to India servers, the pings are even WORST than connecting to Europe itself. 500ms+ from Malaysia to India. Other unaffected destinations such as UAE, Israel all cut off too? What is happening? Is there a cyber terrorism going on without the public knowledge to cut Malaysia and ASEAN region out from Europe? Mind you a single undersea cable breakdown between Malaysia and Singapore wouldn't cause this. We have so many other major undersea cables that lands in both SG and Penang FYI. In Penang alone, there's 4 major cables that links direct to India namely: SAFE-South Africa Far East Cable FLAG-Europe-Asia BBG-Bay of Bengal AAE1-Asia Africa Europe 1 Also many VPN companies have recently removed physical India servers without any explanation. They virtualized its location that is actually routed from somewhere else like HK. Something really fishy is cooking here.... A single undersea cable SEA-WE-ME 5 won't have such impact and the easy solutions to reroute to India, plenty of other major cables that link SG and Penang to India/Middle East into Europe. |
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Apr 26 2024, 06:27 PM
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This is not just a few ISPs that are are affected with bad ASN routings in Malaysia. It's even affecting major ones in SG including Cogent, M247, OVH, Google and NTT. We have this many submarine cables in this region that could easily reroute to India/Middle East to reach Europe so just a single SEA-WE-ME 5 cable being taken down won't impact the entire region.  This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Apr 26 2024, 06:28 PM PRSXFENG liked this post
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Apr 26 2024, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 26 2024, 06:01 PM) Also many VPN companies have recently removed physical India servers without any explanation. They virtualized its location that is actually routed from somewhere else like HK. Nothing fishy here, India has laws on VPNs and many providers refuse to comply.https://www.cloudwards.net/vpn-ban-in-india/ QUOTE What is happening? Is there a cyber terrorism going on without the public knowledge to cut Malaysia and ASEAN region out from Europe? I seriously doubt this. No need to be so dramatic. This post has been edited by Epic_winner091: Apr 26 2024, 11:33 PM |
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Apr 27 2024, 12:08 AM
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Telegram down after 12?
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Apr 27 2024, 02:41 PM
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 Just look at the latency results from places in the Far East such as Tokyo, Hangzhou and Shanghai to Europe. Shanghai to Amsterdam only 190ms+? Malu leh for ASEAN region to be close to 400ms. It's time to reconsider bypassing the troubled Bengal and Middle East war regions and venturing into alternative paths such as the Silk Road, Central Asia and Russia to reach Europe. Too risky to be overly dependent on those Middle East and India regions to reach Europe. This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Apr 27 2024, 02:42 PM |
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Apr 27 2024, 03:17 PM
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RETN's TransKZ Terrestrial Land Based Cable Network - Dostyk-HK
 TEA-Trans East Asia Europe Terrestrial Cable  So what really happened to the SEA-ME-WE 5 cable and AAE-1 cable which controls >80% of ASEAN-Europe region traffic? Shark bitten? So coincident? It's a week now, nothing much about how the incident occurred and no official press release and its details. While we allow this risks of being bargained by India and Middle East? Nope I don't think so. Russia, China and Central Asia is proven more reliable route to gain access into Western Europe. Can't risk silly excuses about shark attacking cables, wrongly lowered anchors by ships and octopus messing with the cables nonsense. Faster retrieval and repairs too. |
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Apr 28 2024, 12:11 AM
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@petpenyubobo it seems you are overthinking this and are a bit too much on a conspiracy path rather than approaching this logically.
1) AAE-1 - 24. Feb 2024: There was a terrorist attack on a boat near Yemen. As a result the boats anchor then cut the cable. 2) SEA-ME-WE 5 - 17.-19. Apr2024: There were maintenance works going on 440km off the coast of Singapore after that salt water penetrated the cable causing an outage. Even though you see many cables on the map, the 2 cables in question do together 64 Tbits/s (64,000,000 Mbits/s). The rest of cables together are doing less than that (please correct me if wrong). Imagine 2 of the biggest, most frequented highways in / around Kuala Lumpur are just closed... because something like that is whats happening. And thats not enough; 3) in mid March there were several cables cut during a landslide around Africa etc. etc. Summary: Due to the issues a lot of traffic has to go different routes and it is not like other cable infrastructure can just take up additional volumes without impact. What is NOT happening: Shark bite or anyone trying to cut off SEA from Europe. Makes no sense. What is happening: 1) Terrorist attack - indirect, yes (AAE-1), 2) Human error, very likely while performing maintenance (SMW-5), 3) Natural disaster, yes (Africa). What must be done better: Communication from the ISPs to their customers. Otherwise we will have people go nuts and start making up stories in their minds that are likely not true. |
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Apr 28 2024, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ Apr 28 2024, 12:11 AM) @petpenyubobo it seems you are overthinking this and are a bit too much on a conspiracy path rather than approaching this logically. I'm not making a fuss or trying to be dramatic here with my fingers crossed.1) AAE-1 - 24. Feb 2024: There was a terrorist attack on a boat near Yemen. As a result the boats anchor then cut the cable. 2) SEA-ME-WE 5 - 17.-19. Apr2024: There were maintenance works going on 440km off the coast of Singapore after that salt water penetrated the cable causing an outage. Even though you see many cables on the map, the 2 cables in question do together 64 Tbits/s (64,000,000 Mbits/s). The rest of cables together are doing less than that (please correct me if wrong). Imagine 2 of the biggest, most frequented highways in / around Kuala Lumpur are just closed... because something like that is whats happening. And thats not enough; 3) in mid March there were several cables cut during a landslide around Africa etc. etc. Summary: Due to the issues a lot of traffic has to go different routes and it is not like other cable infrastructure can just take up additional volumes without impact. What is NOT happening: Shark bite or anyone trying to cut off SEA from Europe. Makes no sense. What is happening: 1) Terrorist attack - indirect, yes (AAE-1), 2) Human error, very likely while performing maintenance (SMW-5), 3) Natural disaster, yes (Africa). What must be done better: Communication from the ISPs to their customers. Otherwise we will have people go nuts and start making up stories in their minds that are likely not true. There is indeed serious politics and rivalry here among US/Bharat against China at work here. The construction of the upcoming SMW6 cable consortium initially wanted Huawei Marine Networks(HMN) to supply and build the undersea cable but later was rejected due to their uneasiness with China. It is important for ASEAN region not to be overly dependent on any side so that we will not be held at ransom in future by certain parties without an alternative. Two Chinese Operators Withdraw from Sea-Me-We 6 Subsea Cable Project As Tensions with US Grow https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...s-with-us-grow/ QUOTE The reason for China's withdrawal is reportedly due to US company SubCom being awarded a contract to build the cable, rather than Hengtong Marine, China's biggest fiber cable provider in the sector, noted the FT, citing three sources. Hengtong in 2019 acquired a majority stake in Huawei Marine Networks, after US sanctions forced a sale. It's a blow for the project, which isn't due to go live until 2025, with the two operators combining to invest 20 percent into the project, with the overall cable set to cost $500 million. Set for 2025, the Sea-Me-We 6 cable is backed by a consortium including Microsoft, Orange, Telecom Egypt, Telekom Malaysia, Airtel, and -until now - all three of China's mobile operators. The other Chinese operator, Unicom, is still said to be involved with the project. One member of the consortium described China Mobile and China Telecom's involvement in the project as "important but not critical." It's no secret geopolitical tensions have escalated between China and the US in recent years. In 2021, a subsea cable set to connect the Pacific Island nations was scrapped after the US government warned that Chinese companies pose a security threat. At the time, the World Bank-led project declined to award a contract for the East Micronesia Cable rather than let it go to Chinese cable company HMN (Huawei Marine Networks) Technologies. |
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Apr 28 2024, 03:02 PM
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In retaliation and to ensure the security of Trans Europe-Asia connectivity to have full monopoly of the access to Europe, China Mobile and China Unicom is making efforts to link Far East Asia via Central Asia/Siberia to reach European shores securely bypassing the risky religious war prone regions of ME/South Asia.
One initiative not made known much to public is the SEA-H2X Cable which is currently slated to be in operation later this year with a design capacity of 160Tbps linking HK, Hainan Island, Songkhla, Kuching and Tuas Singapore.  https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2aafg...e-subsea-bridge It's being built by HMN (Huawei Marine Networks) with a consortium consisting of China Mobile, China Unicom, ppTelecom(Sarawakian initiative) This will link into CMI HK's Tseung Kwan O datacentre and SG's Tuas landing Equinix SG3/Global Switch Via HK, this will route into China(Silk Road) - Central Asia across Trans Siberia/Russia into Europe bypassing the need of over reliance of the risky Middle East/South Asia war torn regions via terrestrial land cables. Beijing/Hangzhou/Shanghai remains unaffected by the SMW 5 cable incident with an average latency to Europe just below 200ms(Mainland)/250ms(Tokyo).  In comparison the next SEA-ME-WE addition SMW6 only has 126Tbps initial design capacity so this is even more interesting. |
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Apr 29 2024, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 26 2024, 06:27 PM) This is not just a few ISPs that are are affected with bad ASN routings in Malaysia. I wonder when can this issue be resolved. It has been a week and I still cannot access the website for me to operate my business. Feeling lost.It's even affecting major ones in SG including Cogent, M247, OVH, Google and NTT. We have this many submarine cables in this region that could easily reroute to India/Middle East to reach Europe so just a single SEA-WE-ME 5 cable being taken down won't impact the entire region. |
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Apr 29 2024, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Apr 29 2024, 03:08 PM) I wonder when can this issue be resolved. It has been a week and I still cannot access the website for me to operate my business. Feeling lost. If there was an alternative link or competing network, you see how fast they'll resolve it?This is a good lesson to ASEAN and Far East Asian countries not to rely on the Middle East and South Asian countries to reach Europe. They've been playing politics and blaming China to prevent them from helping build the submarine cables instead award to their own companies to monopolize the trade. All the recent SMW undersea cables have this controversy. |
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Apr 29 2024, 04:44 PM
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bruh even vpn is so bad on my celcom digi 5g
trying to access uk bbc iplayer and speeds drop from 500 to 2 when vpn enabled |
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Apr 29 2024, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Apr 29 2024, 04:44 PM) bruh even vpn is so bad on my celcom digi 5g Depends on what VPN provider you are using and how this VPN routes you. trying to access uk bbc iplayer and speeds drop from 500 to 2 when vpn enabled I had pretty good connection via a VPN through Mexico or Japan to Europe while other entry points with same provider had bad performance. |
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Apr 30 2024, 11:18 PM
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Some news,
https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/709961 Mauritius Telecom in talks for subsea cable to link Africa, Asia April 30): Mauritius’ top telecommunications company is in talks with operators including Reliance Jio Infocomm Ltd and Orange SA for a new undersea cable linking Africa, Indian Ocean islands and Asia, improving redundancy in a region hit by breakdowns. The new line named T4 will replace the South Africa Far East cable that’s coming to end of life in 2027, a quarter of a century after commissioning. T4 will have 1,000 times more capacity than the SAFE, according to Kapil Reesaul, chief executive officer of the Port Louis-based Mauritius Telecom Ltd. “With so many cable breakdowns we are having, we want to secure the far east with a cable that will run from Mauritius to India and Singapore,” he said in an interview on Monday (April 29). The urgent need for additional cable infrastructure was highlighted by a disruption last Friday, that impacted the Indian Ocean island nation. The hitch, which was resolved after five hours, was the latest problem after four cables were damaged near the Ivory Coast last month, and three lines off the coast of Yemen that have remained offline since late February. The new undersea cable will follow “more or less” the same path, as the 13,500-kilometre (8,389-mile) long SAFE that runs from South Africa, by Madagascar, La Reunion and Mauritius, to India and Singapore. Other operators that could join the consortium include Telkom SA, Telekom Malaysia Bhd, Cable & Wireless Ltd of Seychelles, and maybe China Telecom Corp, he said. The cost of such a project would be in the range of US$150 million to US$200 million and works may take at least two years, he said. Taking the lead on the T4 reflects Mauritius Telecom’s ambition to become a regional operator, according to Reesaul. |
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May 2 2024, 07:25 PM
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This issue is still present. Any site in Europe is slow to load, and many times fails.
Using a VPN routing the traffic to other countries, like the USA, makes everything work properly but then you are limited in speed by the VPN. Is there any ETA for when it will be fixed? Contacting the ISP just brings up the usual "everything looks good from our side"... |
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May 2 2024, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 2 2024, 07:25 PM) This issue is still present. Any site in Europe is slow to load, and many times fails. It seems much worse todayUsing a VPN routing the traffic to other countries, like the USA, makes everything work properly but then you are limited in speed by the VPN. Is there any ETA for when it will be fixed? Contacting the ISP just brings up the usual "everything looks good from our side"... |
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May 2 2024, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(dayojah @ May 2 2024, 08:03 PM) It seems much worse today Yeah 440-450ms ping without VPN to UK, and with packet loss.Using SG VPN drops it down to about 320ms and no packet loss |
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May 2 2024, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ May 2 2024, 09:09 PM) Yeah 440-450ms ping without VPN to UK, and with packet loss. Using SG VPN drops it down to about 320ms and no packet loss  TM Unifi  EU server: very high ping Latency 400-450ms & 100% PktLoss at night  |
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May 3 2024, 07:47 AM
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This morning is so slow to access EU websites and servers, I am with TIME
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May 3 2024, 10:55 AM
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I think it has improved as of this morning.
Need to check performance a bit over the next hours but it could be that the submarine cable is finally fixed… |
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May 3 2024, 03:12 PM
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I still don't see any improvement
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May 3 2024, 03:22 PM
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Yesterday night was the worst from past 2 week.
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May 3 2024, 06:23 PM
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One of the broken cable (AAE-1) are expected to restore between May 13 until May 18 according to my source. EDIT: Delayed until mid-June. This post has been edited by michaelkkl: May 8 2024, 10:12 PM xhruso00 liked this post
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May 3 2024, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(chonghe @ May 3 2024, 07:47 AM) This morning is so slow to access EU websites and servers, I am with TIME Seems getting worse tonight. Twitter just refused to load on TIME, while able to load on my Yes 5G |
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May 3 2024, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(go626201 @ May 3 2024, 03:22 PM) Yesterday night was the worst from past 2 week. Ok.. wow... Unifi seems to have much better routing than TIME...I am giving this until middle of the month, then I change away from TIME to Unifi. faizyunus liked this post
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May 5 2024, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(michaelkkl @ May 3 2024, 06:23 PM) One of the broken cable (AAE-1) are expected to restore between May 13 until May 18 according to my source. Managed to get good routing with a help of M247/31173's European servers. For the past 2 weeks my latency to Europe major cities was able to be lowered down to 230-260ms. |
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May 5 2024, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 5 2024, 12:51 PM) Managed to get good routing with a help of M247/31173's European servers. For the past 2 weeks my latency to Europe major cities was able to be lowered down to 230-260ms. Means Mulvad VPN? Why not write that? 🤣 |
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May 5 2024, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 5 2024, 01:01 PM) Means Mulvad VPN? Why not write that? 🤣 I actually don't have Mullvad VPN. But I know it's using 31173 AB as one of its hosting carrier partners.Can't disclose my exact solution entirely here for prying eyes.  This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: May 5 2024, 01:21 PM |
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May 5 2024, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 5 2024, 01:19 PM) I actually don't have Mullvad VPN. But I know it's using 31173 AB as one of its hosting carrier partners. Maybe you got a server there and configured your own VPN?Can't disclose my exact solution entirely here for prying eyes. I also need a solution, this is getting absurd, so long without a solution and TIME doesn't officially say anything. Maybe you can share via PM? |
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May 5 2024, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 5 2024, 02:04 PM) Maybe you got a server there and configured your own VPN? I can't hint any further not because I'm selfish but to avoid zergs from rushing into the solution and spoiling it all.I also need a solution, this is getting absurd, so long without a solution and TIME doesn't officially say anything. Maybe you can share via PM? No offense ya. I have already gave enough hints previously with RETN's Trans Siberia/Central Asia-China links, M247/31173 Europe routing. The rest you have to figure out a way how to utilize them.  rezzorix Yes, Mullvad is one of the VPN providers which is using 31173 AB based servers out there...But I don't have an account with them. They're among one of the most expensive VPN service out there but not the only solution. |
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May 5 2024, 02:25 PM
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Theres many VPN out there that offer multi location and tell you also which ones give you best latency to choose from.
Just try it out. The VPN i use routed to Europe best through Mexico, since yesterday it is the South-Korea location thats better. Again, it is about trying out what works best. What I really don’t understand is why TIME or any of the other ISP is not more transparent to their customers. I mentioned it before but i think it is because majority of people who browse FB, IG, TikTok etc are not effected at all as these services use well distributed CDN. |
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May 5 2024, 03:36 PM
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Yes, using a VPN allows you to change the routing, but then you are limited by the VPN bandwidth.
Is there any other way to change the routing without being limited in bandwidth? |
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May 5 2024, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 5 2024, 03:36 PM) Yes, using a VPN allows you to change the routing, but then you are limited by the VPN bandwidth. Does Secure DNS in recent web browsers change routing ?Is there any other way to change the routing without being limited in bandwidth? |
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May 5 2024, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(frontierzone @ May 5 2024, 03:46 PM) Does Secure DNS in recent web browsers change routing ? Nope, DNS has very little effect unless the site you're accessing has extensive CDN mirror servers around the world. Its purpose is to translate a web address to an IP of a server that belongs to the network/webpage you're accessing. The use of CDNs is to balanced out the traffic and equally distribute them in different regions instead of forwarding all traffic to just one server serving the entire visitors pool around the world. It's like say a website has mirror CDN servers in SG, London and New York. If you're accessing from Malaysia, when you request for "example.com" for instance, it'll point you to its SG server's IP which is the nearest and with the fastest latency.But that is sometimes conditional, if all the 3 servers have their own localized contents such as Netflix/Disney you might want to access the other regions servers when you send request for the website or the SG server may be over-congested so you want to try other less congested servers in other regions. This is where the secured geo-based DNS server comes into picture, they'll force resolve the address to the specific regional server's IP which is in their own region like for example a Malaysian user using a European secured DNS, it'll point to European Netflix server instead even if your ISP is based in Asia. Most of the free public DNS which we are using won't have special features like the example use mentioned above, where it forces your address requests to be pointed to a specific regional server outside your physical location. It still depends on your ISP's routing and upload capacity to ensure smooth transfers/latency to other regions. |
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May 5 2024, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 27 2024, 03:17 PM) RETN's TransKZ Terrestrial Land Based Cable Network - Dostyk-HK You are free to get your ASN, announce your own routes, and buy transit from RETN, Rostelecom, JSC TransTelecom, and China Telecom. Let me know how much they charge you.TEA-Trans East Asia Europe Terrestrial Cable So what really happened to the SEA-ME-WE 5 cable and AAE-1 cable which controls >80% of ASEAN-Europe region traffic? Shark bitten? So coincident? It's a week now, nothing much about how the incident occurred and no official press release and its details. While we allow this risks of being bargained by India and Middle East? Nope I don't think so. Russia, China and Central Asia is proven more reliable route to gain access into Western Europe. Can't risk silly excuses about shark attacking cables, wrongly lowered anchors by ships and octopus messing with the cables nonsense. Faster retrieval and repairs too. There is a reason why despite the RJCN, it is cheaper to buy transit from Japan down to SEA, through South Asia, up the Red Sea, landing in Marseille, France, interconnect with TransTelecom (AS20485) in LINX, bounce over the Eurasia continent, to a host in Vladivostok. If you think TM (Wholesale) cekik darah, wait till you see what Transtelecom charges for Eurasia Highway, and China Unicom charges for their side of the ERA terrestrial cable system. |
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May 5 2024, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ May 5 2024, 10:54 PM) You are free to get your ASN, announce your own routes, and buy transit from RETN, Rostelecom, JSC TransTelecom, and China Telecom. Let me know how much they charge you. Not with the geo-politics games now the West are playing to manipulate the ME/South Asia routes to Europe.There is a reason why despite the RJCN, it is cheaper to buy transit from Japan down to SEA, through South Asia, up the Red Sea, landing in Marseille, France, interconnect with TransTelecom (AS20485) in LINX, bounce over the Eurasia continent, to a host in Vladivostok. If you think TM (Wholesale) cekik darah, wait till you see what Transtelecom charges for Eurasia Highway, and China Unicom charges for their side of the ERA terrestrial cable system. The threat and possibility to bypass these regions as an alternative for Far East Asia(Japan-SKorea-China)is becoming a reality. Not just with submarine cables but also sea routes being replaced with land transport. Too risky for them to hold you under ransom during emergencies when you become too overdependent on just one route. |
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May 5 2024, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 5 2024, 02:04 PM) Maybe you got a server there and configured your own VPN? ~240ms only to Western Europe during peak hours on a Sunday night.I also need a solution, this is getting absurd, so long without a solution and TIME doesn't officially say anything. Maybe you can share via PM?  |
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May 5 2024, 11:51 PM
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“Peak hours on a Sunday night” 🤣
Edit to clarify: this is in no way meant disrespectful; I just really had to laugh. This post has been edited by rezzorix: May 5 2024, 11:55 PM |
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May 6 2024, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 5 2024, 11:41 PM) Not with the geo-politics games now the West are playing to manipulate the ME/South Asia routes to Europe. This is Networks and Broadband, not /k or RWI. The threat and possibility to bypass these regions as an alternative for Far East Asia(Japan-SKorea-China)is becoming a reality. Not just with submarine cables but also sea routes being replaced with land transport. Too risky for them to hold you under ransom during emergencies when you become too overdependent on just one route. I will leave these facts: - India Asia Xpress (IAX) under construction by China Mobile and Reliance Jio - PEACE Cable being built by HMN - MIST cable that will provide another link to South Asia transit sources I suppose it is easier to blame the evil west and their multiculturalism than the fact that a lot of the existing cable systems west (ha ha) of Malaysia reaching EOL: - FLAG is older 3G - SAFE has less bandwidth than a port in MyIX - SEA-ME-WE 3 has more downtime than SEA-ME-WE 5 cable and AAE-1 combined There is a lack of capacity westward from SEA. If you think it is challenging getting the necessary permissions and permits running submarine cables across South Asia and the Middle East, wait till you try and run terrestrial cable systems across sovereign countries. As I said, if latency and route diversity is so important, you are free to get your own NSP and NFP licences, get your own ASN, and see how much China Unicom and Transtelecom charge you to use their ERA, ERMC, TEA, TRANSKZ, terrestrial cable systems. But you wouldn't, not because it is cheaper to just re-route via East Asia and North America to Europe, but because it is easier blaming the evil multicultural communist west. |
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May 6 2024, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ May 6 2024, 06:42 AM) This is Networks and Broadband, not /k or RWI. You still don't get it do you?I will leave these facts: - India Asia Xpress (IAX) under construction by China Mobile and Reliance Jio - PEACE Cable being built by HMN - MIST cable that will provide another link to South Asia transit sources I suppose it is easier to blame the evil west and their multiculturalism than the fact that a lot of the existing cable systems west (ha ha) of Malaysia reaching EOL: - FLAG is older 3G - SAFE has less bandwidth than a port in MyIX - SEA-ME-WE 3 has more downtime than SEA-ME-WE 5 cable and AAE-1 combined There is a lack of capacity westward from SEA. If you think it is challenging getting the necessary permissions and permits running submarine cables across South Asia and the Middle East, wait till you try and run terrestrial cable systems across sovereign countries. As I said, if latency and route diversity is so important, you are free to get your own NSP and NFP licences, get your own ASN, and see how much China Unicom and Transtelecom charge you to use their ERA, ERMC, TEA, TRANSKZ, terrestrial cable systems. But you wouldn't, not because it is cheaper to just re-route via East Asia and North America to Europe, but because it is easier blaming the evil multicultural communist west. When your rival already blatantly told you that you're a threat to be part of their global submarine cable build out and you don't want a backup plan to secure yourself in the event they blackmail you further in future by cutting you off entirely from the Indian Ocean route? Do you think China and Russia is short of strategists that is unaware of this security threat? They can't risk the entire Far East Asia region from being totally cut off from Europe by allowing other from pulling their legs. About the high costs of securing this route, what response do you expect from China and Russia when previously you complained about them being a threat to your submarine cable consortium? Of course they've going to counter you with a "nice" quotation bill as a nice way to tell you to get lost when you were the first to initiate the cold treatment of accusing them as a threat of joining your consortium. Ever heard the childhood lesson story about the The Fox and The Stork? You get what you ask for. Also why the suggestion of me setting up my own ASN when I'm just a mere consumer? I'm blushed to be suggested such solution. |
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May 6 2024, 12:20 PM
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I don't get why enter into politics. As petpenyubobo says, we are mere consumers. We should have what we are paying. I'm paying fiber internet which should work when I load a website, regardless if the website is located in the USA, Europe or a remote island. Right now all European websites and services are slow to load, specially in the afternoon/evening/night. I'm again complaining to TIME again today. If we all complain, maybe they find out there is a problem and fix it petpenyubobo liked this post
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May 6 2024, 01:01 PM
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Actually you are getting what you paid for. Broadband Service Level Agreement is best-effort, there is no clause gurantee on network latency or packet loss.
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May 6 2024, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(huntx @ May 6 2024, 01:01 PM) Actually you are getting what you paid for. Broadband Service Level Agreement is best-effort, there is no clause gurantee on network latency or packet loss. So European websites failing to load is what I paid for? |
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May 6 2024, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 6 2024, 12:20 PM) I don't get why enter into politics. As petpenyubobo says, we are mere consumers. We should have what we are paying. I'm paying fiber internet which should work when I load a website, regardless if the website is located in the USA, Europe or a remote island. Actually this whole submarine cable thing has geo-politics under its hood. We cannot deny the fact and should not evade the reasons behind it.Right now all European websites and services are slow to load, specially in the afternoon/evening/night. I'm again complaining to TIME again today. If we all complain, maybe they find out there is a problem and fix it I know it's unpleasant to bring it up but we can't just pretend nothing is going on. The SEA-ME-WE cabling project openly rejected and booted China despite Huawei Marine initially winning the tender fairly to build and supply them the cabling project for them out of security threat concerns. Should China, Central Asia and Russia provide similar response when these same people return and asked for participation in the Trans-Siberia project? Don't just brush us away and ask this to be taken to RWI or suggest impossible things to your internet subscribers/consumers. |
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May 6 2024, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 6 2024, 12:11 PM) You still don't get it do you? One minute going through China and Central Asia is suppposedly the future to avoid being bargained by India and Middle East manipulating ME/South Asia routes to Europe through troubled Bengal and Middle East war regions.When your rival already blatantly told you that you're a threat to be part of their global submarine cable build out and you don't want a backup plan to secure yourself in the event they blackmail you further in future by cutting you off entirely from the Indian Ocean route? Do you think China and Russia is short of strategists that is unaware of this security threat? They can't risk the entire Far East Asia region from being totally cut off from Europe by allowing other from pulling their legs. About the high costs of securing this route, what response do you expect from China and Russia when previously you complained about them being a threat to your submarine cable consortium? Of course they've going to counter you with a "nice" quotation bill as a nice way to tell you to get lost when you were the first to initiate the cold treatment of accusing them as a threat of joining your consortium. Ever heard the childhood lesson story about the The Fox and The Stork? You get what you ask for. Also why the suggestion of me setting up my own ASN when I'm just a mere consumer? I'm blushed to be suggested such solution. Next Malaysian network providers are now apparently so powerful that they can tell China is "a threat to be part of their global submarine cable build out" and "being a threat to your submarine cable consortium". Say that the evil rest of the world is " cutting off China entirely from the Indian Ocean route", but then India Asia Xpress (IAX) under construction by China Mobile and Reliance Jio, PEACE Cable being built by HMN, in the Indian Ocean region, after the geo-political shenanigans of SEA-ME-WE 6, so how? This post has been edited by haya: May 6 2024, 03:52 PM |
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May 6 2024, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 6 2024, 12:20 PM) I don't get why enter into politics. As petpenyubobo says, we are mere consumers. We should have what we are paying. I'm paying fiber internet which should work when I load a website, regardless if the website is located in the USA, Europe or a remote island. I have no issue with people lodging formal complaints with the respective network providers on reduced performance to Europe from Malaysia. But I'm not sure how much they can do when it will take time for submarine cableships to get to the locationRight now all European websites and services are slow to load, specially in the afternoon/evening/night. I'm again complaining to TIME again today. If we all complain, maybe they find out there is a problem and fix it And then deal with things like this: https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2d5m1...me-we-5s-repair No one is limited to access Europe based resources. I deal with workloads in the EU all the time. It is not 2006 when it was impossible to access after the Hengchun earthquake. Increased latency because rerouting via East Asia and North America, yes. Increased packet loss, totally feel it. But as a "mere consumer" I have no control how AS4788 and AS9930 (who, let's be honest, just chucks all their packets down to Equinix Singapore for international transit to the wider internet) decides to deal with SEA-ME-WE 5 and AAE-1 being down. |
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May 6 2024, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 6 2024, 01:02 PM) So European websites failing to load is what I paid for? Well, it does load but just slower. Between you and the european webserver, that are many components in between, and not all the time is the service provider fault. The submarine cable is damaged and everyone is forced to fallback to existing capacity hence congestion happen. There are huge chunk of traffic to be reroute, and to obtain additional capacity will not come at zero cost. This is just like, you pay roadtax every year. During the festival time, you complain the road is jam and this is not what you pay for. You expect the government to build a new highway from KL to your kampung in one or two days ? haya liked this post
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May 6 2024, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(huntx @ May 6 2024, 04:40 PM) Well, it does load but just slower. U hv the point & ajimix also hv the right as paying customerBetween you and the european webserver, that are many components in between, and not all the time is the service provider fault. The submarine cable is damaged and everyone is forced to fallback to existing capacity hence congestion happen. There are huge chunk of traffic to be reroute, and to obtain additional capacity will not come at zero cost. This is just like, you pay roadtax every year. During the festival time, you complain the road is jam and this is not what you pay for. You expect the government to build a new highway from KL to your kampung in one or two days ? What we need now is only clear & transparent communication by unifi to explain to their client what is happening, not very hard to do to act like a customer friendly enterprise. |
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May 6 2024, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ May 6 2024, 03:50 PM) One minute going through China and Central Asia is suppposedly the future to avoid being bargained by India and Middle East manipulating ME/South Asia routes to Europe through troubled Bengal and Middle East war regions. Since you asked so how, Next Malaysian network providers are now apparently so powerful that they can tell China is "a threat to be part of their global submarine cable build out" and "being a threat to your submarine cable consortium". Say that the evil rest of the world is " cutting off China entirely from the Indian Ocean route", but then India Asia Xpress (IAX) under construction by China Mobile and Reliance Jio, PEACE Cable being built by HMN, in the Indian Ocean region, after the geo-political shenanigans of SEA-ME-WE 6, so how? The message is very clear from China and the Far East side to Bharat South Asia/ME. Try anything funny in future with any extortion we can equally respond to cut you out as well from Pacific side via landings on Changi East side Singapore going into the Far East/Pacific. Tuas(West Side): Bharat/ME Changi(East Side): China/Japan/Pacific They won't be deterred because links to Europe and East Coast USA is secured. As you can see with the charts now, there is almost no interruption to European-Far East Asia(FEA) to China cities including South Korea and Japan.  Shanghai/Seoul/Tokyo are enjoying healthier latency to Europe than ASEAN now. Links as you mentioned: India Asia Xpress (IAX), PEACE Cable are more benefiting to India accessing Far East Asia than the other way around. Easily it can be taken down but it'll not bring much issues to both Beijing and Tokyo because they have their direct links to both EUROPE and US secured via Trans-Siberia/Pacific route. The ones suffering now is the Indo-China/ASEAN region with countries such as Indonesia, Malaysia, SG, Thailand even as far as HK links to Europe is crawling. |
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May 6 2024, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ May 6 2024, 04:00 PM) I have no issue with people lodging formal complaints with the respective network providers on reduced performance to Europe from Malaysia. But I'm not sure how much they can do when it will take time for submarine cableships to get to the location South Asia actually needs ASEAN more than the Far East needs them, one to get to the Pacific via SG transit to reach US while the other needs to reach EU.And then deal with things like this: https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2d5m1...me-we-5s-repair No one is limited to access Europe based resources. I deal with workloads in the EU all the time. It is not 2006 when it was impossible to access after the Hengchun earthquake. Increased latency because rerouting via East Asia and North America, yes. Increased packet loss, totally feel it. But as a "mere consumer" I have no control how AS4788 and AS9930 (who, let's be honest, just chucks all their packets down to Equinix Singapore for international transit to the wider internet) decides to deal with SEA-ME-WE 5 and AAE-1 being down. Alternatively India will have to go through EU/Africa continent then only they can traverse across the Atlantic. On the other hand Beijing/Seoul/Tokyo already has their Trans Siberia backup on bypass them to reach EU. So yeah most affected regions will be ASEAN+HK+Taiwan which relies on a lot on the Indian Ocean links to reach EU. |
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May 6 2024, 09:37 PM
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I see 290ms ping to the UK, 5ms to a software site in Switzerland that actually downloads at modem speeds.
I have seen ISPs playing QOS games that give fast ping, while data is in a huge buffer queue |
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May 6 2024, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(dayojah @ May 6 2024, 09:37 PM) I see 290ms ping to the UK, 5ms to a software site in Switzerland that actually downloads at modem speeds. My ping to raspberrypi.org is around 10-20ms.but the ping to downloads.raspberrypi.org is 280-320ms and 10-20kb/s while downloading. It’s just where the servers are hosted. I have seen ISPs playing QOS games that give fast ping, while data is in a huge buffer queue There is no way the ping to Switzerland is 5ms. The ping from Penang to KL with TIME is already 6-8ms. |
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May 7 2024, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(ChenKaiWen @ May 6 2024, 11:55 PM) My ping to raspberrypi.org is around 10-20ms.but the ping to downloads.raspberrypi.org is 280-320ms and 10-20kb/s while downloading. It’s just where the servers are hosted. That's because raspberrypi.org is behind Cloudflare: There is no way the ping to Switzerland is 5ms. The ping from Penang to KL with TIME is already 6-8ms. CODE traceroute to 172.67.36.98 (172.67.36.98), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 223.28.26.21 (223.28.26.21) 2.703 ms 1.749 ms 1.428 ms 2 223.28.26.153 (223.28.26.153) 1.551 ms 5.944 ms 2.088 ms MPLS Label=50089 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1 3 223.28.43.29 (223.28.43.29) 1.796 ms 1.750 ms 2.111 ms MPLS Label=48701 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1 4 223.28.52.58 (223.28.52.58) 1.523 ms 2.067 ms 2.239 ms 5 211.25.221.206 (211.25.221.206) 1.916 ms 2.190 ms 1.961 ms 6 172.67.36.98 (172.67.36.98) 1.640 ms 1.882 ms 1.613 ms raspberrypi.org may be physically hosted in Switzerland, but from a end user perspective they hit the closest Cloudflare edge node. While downloads.raspberrypi.org is still hosted in the UK/not behind a CDN/accelerator: CODE traceroute to 93.93.130.212 (93.93.130.212), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 223.28.26.21 (223.28.26.21) 8.777 ms 0.879 ms 0.650 ms 2 223.28.26.153 (223.28.26.153) 1.894 ms 1.998 ms 1.741 ms MPLS Label=53148 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1 3 223.28.47.197 (223.28.47.197) 1.775 ms 1.825 ms 1.679 ms MPLS Label=54206 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1 4 223.28.43.66 (223.28.43.66) 8.356 ms 6.554 ms 6.532 ms 5 93.93.133.16 (93.93.133.16) 269.474 ms 278.646 ms 275.087 ms 6 93.93.133.1 (93.93.133.1) 259.456 ms 293.486 ms 290.318 ms 7 93.93.133.7 (93.93.133.7) 280.220 ms 299.905 ms 298.519 ms 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 176.126.240.9 (176.126.240.9) 287.220 ms 297.101 ms 297.247 ms 11 93.93.130.212 (93.93.130.212) 322.112 ms 316.210 ms 323.109 ms PRSXFENG liked this post
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May 7 2024, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(haya @ May 7 2024, 08:11 AM) That's because raspberrypi.org is behind Cloudflare: Ah forgot about cloudflare.CODE traceroute to 172.67.36.98 (172.67.36.98), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 223.28.26.21 (223.28.26.21) 2.703 ms 1.749 ms 1.428 ms 2 223.28.26.153 (223.28.26.153) 1.551 ms 5.944 ms 2.088 ms MPLS Label=50089 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1 3 223.28.43.29 (223.28.43.29) 1.796 ms 1.750 ms 2.111 ms MPLS Label=48701 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1 4 223.28.52.58 (223.28.52.58) 1.523 ms 2.067 ms 2.239 ms 5 211.25.221.206 (211.25.221.206) 1.916 ms 2.190 ms 1.961 ms 6 172.67.36.98 (172.67.36.98) 1.640 ms 1.882 ms 1.613 ms raspberrypi.org may be physically hosted in Switzerland, but from a end user perspective they hit the closest Cloudflare edge node. While downloads.raspberrypi.org is still hosted in the UK/not behind a CDN/accelerator: CODE traceroute to 93.93.130.212 (93.93.130.212), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 223.28.26.21 (223.28.26.21) 8.777 ms 0.879 ms 0.650 ms 2 223.28.26.153 (223.28.26.153) 1.894 ms 1.998 ms 1.741 ms MPLS Label=53148 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1 3 223.28.47.197 (223.28.47.197) 1.775 ms 1.825 ms 1.679 ms MPLS Label=54206 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1 4 223.28.43.66 (223.28.43.66) 8.356 ms 6.554 ms 6.532 ms 5 93.93.133.16 (93.93.133.16) 269.474 ms 278.646 ms 275.087 ms 6 93.93.133.1 (93.93.133.1) 259.456 ms 293.486 ms 290.318 ms 7 93.93.133.7 (93.93.133.7) 280.220 ms 299.905 ms 298.519 ms 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 176.126.240.9 (176.126.240.9) 287.220 ms 297.101 ms 297.247 ms 11 93.93.130.212 (93.93.130.212) 322.112 ms 316.210 ms 323.109 ms haya liked this post
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May 8 2024, 10:25 AM
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One more day of suffering on European websites... we keep counting
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May 8 2024, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 8 2024, 10:25 AM) One more day of suffering on European websites... we keep counting Last weekend days back someone said from insiders need another 10-13 days. That's another 2 weeks. We shall see at the end of next week.  ajimix liked this post
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May 11 2024, 09:48 AM
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TeleYemen has two branches, one in Aden under control of the internationally recognized Yemeni government, and the other in Sanaa under the control of the Houthi. The Yemeni government refused to cooperate with the Houthi-linked part of TeleYemen associated with the AAE-1 cable consortium
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_eas...d-13781436.html ---- this is interesting Houthis backed by china cut AAE-1 china cable The Asia-Africa-Europe-1 cable system, better known as AAE-1, has been officially launched, with services commencing from Europe to the Far East, said the AAE-1 consortium, which coordinates efforts to complete the project. China Unicom is a key member of the alliance. |
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May 11 2024, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(JLA @ May 11 2024, 09:48 AM) TeleYemen has two branches, one in Aden under control of the internationally recognized Yemeni government, and the other in Sanaa under the control of the Houthi. The Yemeni government refused to cooperate with the Houthi-linked part of TeleYemen associated with the AAE-1 cable consortium Don't see a strategic reason for China to do this since even now with the cable severed, the Far East Asia(FEA) links to Europe is still enjoying good connectivity.https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_eas...d-13781436.html ---- this is interesting Houthis backed by china cut AAE-1 china cable The Asia-Africa-Europe-1 cable system, better known as AAE-1, has been officially launched, with services commencing from Europe to the Far East, said the AAE-1 consortium, which coordinates efforts to complete the project. China Unicom is a key member of the alliance. If they wanted to sabotage, the links they'd cut off the links linking South Asia/ME to Europe instead that'll bring even a far worst impact. They could also cut off East side of the cables that links Pacific side with their dominance over the South China Sea via East Singapore Changi side. All things considered the ones who are victims now are South East Asia which is so dependent on the route Indian Ocean/ME route to Europe. There is also no way for ME/South Asia to get to Japan/Korea/HK other than to take the "other" way round the globe via Africa-Atlantic Ocean-Pacific Ocean to reach FEA. For China/S.Korea/Japan, they've safeguarded their route to EU & America. Cutting off the Indian Ocean Route will only impact their South Asia/Africa traffic which is insignificant compared to the earlier destinations. |
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May 11 2024, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 6 2024, 12:20 PM) I don't get why enter into politics. Keyboard warriors do Keyboard warrior things. Thats why 🫣🤣 haya liked this post
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May 11 2024, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 27 2024, 03:17 PM) RETN's TransKZ Terrestrial Land Based Cable Network - Dostyk-HK Normal ISP or provider won't using this route due the pricing which cost alot.TEA-Trans East Asia Europe Terrestrial Cable So what really happened to the SEA-ME-WE 5 cable and AAE-1 cable which controls >80% of ASEAN-Europe region traffic? Shark bitten? So coincident? It's a week now, nothing much about how the incident occurred and no official press release and its details. While we allow this risks of being bargained by India and Middle East? Nope I don't think so. Russia, China and Central Asia is proven more reliable route to gain access into Western Europe. Can't risk silly excuses about shark attacking cables, wrongly lowered anchors by ships and octopus messing with the cables nonsense. Faster retrieval and repairs too. |
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May 16 2024, 03:38 PM
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There's already some improvements observed today and European links are slowly recovering.
Almost back to normal. Stay tuned. |
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May 16 2024, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 16 2024, 03:38 PM) There's already some improvements observed today and European links are slowly recovering. Can you back that statement up with data?Almost back to normal. Stay tuned. Because my constantly running smokeping tells otherwise (at least for TIME). |
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May 16 2024, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 16 2024, 05:29 PM) Can you back that statement up with data? Ooops no improvement yet with TIME? Because my constantly running smokeping tells otherwise (at least for TIME). Most SG major carriers are already getting <220ms to Amsterdam today. It's normalizing now. |
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May 16 2024, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 16 2024, 06:14 PM) Ooops no improvement yet with TIME? Most SG major carriers are already getting <220ms to Amsterdam today. It's normalizing now.  On TIME. Edit: Last time i download, was only getting 10kb/s. Now at least 1mb/s This post has been edited by ChenKaiWen: May 16 2024, 07:05 PM |
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May 16 2024, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(ChenKaiWen @ May 16 2024, 07:01 PM) On TIME. Edit: Last time i download, was only getting 10kb/s. Now at least 1mb/s I would rather take data centres in Marseille, Amsterdam, Frankfurt as reference. |
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May 16 2024, 10:07 PM
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Server Source:
DataPacket Telecom: https://www.datapacket.com/looking-glass OVH Roubaix Paris: rbx.proof.ovh.net DataPacket Amsterdam  DataPacket Frankfurt  OVH Roubaix Paris  |
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May 16 2024, 10:28 PM
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DataPacket Amsterdam
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May 16 2024, 11:07 PM
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Nothing changed.
I suggest not to just run adhoc pings and judge based on that. Continuous, long-term monitoring of network latency and packet loss are better for analysis. Regular ping commands provide only a snapshot in time. Frankfurt:  Amsterdam:  |
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May 17 2024, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 16 2024, 11:07 PM) Nothing changed. You're right. A large amount of data would be better than a small amount of data. I've already setup smokeping yesterday.I suggest not to just run adhoc pings and judge based on that. Continuous, long-term monitoring of network latency and packet loss are better for analysis. Regular ping commands provide only a snapshot in time. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 17 2024, 11:32 AM
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Not for me (certain hosts are ok):
CODE @Mareks-MacBook-Pro-M1 ~ % ping elbiaadmin.sk PING elbiaadmin.sk (109.74.156.7): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 109.74.156.7: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=441.063 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 1 Request timeout for icmp_seq 2 Request timeout for icmp_seq 3 Request timeout for icmp_seq 4 Request timeout for icmp_seq 5 Request timeout for icmp_seq 6 Request timeout for icmp_seq 7 Request timeout for icmp_seq 8 64 bytes from 109.74.156.7: icmp_seq=9 ttl=53 time=462.775 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 10 Request timeout for icmp_seq 11 64 bytes from 109.74.156.7: icmp_seq=12 ttl=53 time=529.903 ms 64 bytes from 109.74.156.7: icmp_seq=13 ttl=53 time=428.958 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 14 64 bytes from 109.74.156.7: icmp_seq=15 ttl=53 time=490.878 ms 64 bytes from 109.74.156.7: icmp_seq=16 ttl=53 time=511.674 ms 64 bytes from 109.74.156.7: icmp_seq=17 ttl=53 time=530.935 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 18 Request timeout for icmp_seq 19 64 bytes from 109.74.156.7: icmp_seq=20 ttl=53 time=484.982 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 21 ^C --- elbiaadmin.sk ping statistics --- 23 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 65.2% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 428.958/485.146/530.935/36.120 ms @Mareks-MacBook-Pro-M1 ~ % ping www.pravda.sk PING kultura.pravda.sk (217.67.31.48): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=434.474 ms 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=468.696 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 2 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=428.379 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 4 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=488.469 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 6 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=7 ttl=54 time=451.559 ms 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=8 ttl=54 time=468.445 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 9 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=10 ttl=54 time=506.781 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 11 Request timeout for icmp_seq 12 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=13 ttl=54 time=468.073 ms 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=14 ttl=54 time=488.777 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 15 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=16 ttl=54 time=532.247 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 17 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=18 ttl=54 time=471.417 ms 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=19 ttl=54 time=494.049 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 20 Request timeout for icmp_seq 21 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=22 ttl=54 time=555.287 ms 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=23 ttl=54 time=471.291 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 24 Request timeout for icmp_seq 25 Request timeout for icmp_seq 26 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=27 ttl=54 time=551.736 ms 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=28 ttl=54 time=569.938 ms Request timeout for icmp_seq 29 64 bytes from 217.67.31.48: icmp_seq=30 ttl=54 time=461.410 ms ^C --- kultura.pravda.sk ping statistics --- 31 packets transmitted, 17 packets received, 45.2% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 428.379/488.884/569.938/40.438 ms Mareks-MacBook-Pro-M1 ~ % ping www.telekom.sk PING www.telekom.sk (213.81.204.245): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=0 ttl=239 time=389.462 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=302.982 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=2 ttl=239 time=429.105 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=3 ttl=239 time=299.103 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=4 ttl=239 time=365.269 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=5 ttl=239 time=384.616 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=6 ttl=239 time=303.455 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=7 ttl=239 time=324.830 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=8 ttl=239 time=303.106 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=9 ttl=239 time=367.755 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=10 ttl=239 time=386.028 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=11 ttl=239 time=403.420 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=12 ttl=239 time=421.840 ms 64 bytes from 213.81.204.245: icmp_seq=13 ttl=239 time=311.739 ms ^C QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 16 2024, 03:38 PM) There's already some improvements observed today and European links are slowly recovering. Almost back to normal. Stay tuned. |
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May 17 2024, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(ChenKaiWen @ May 17 2024, 11:14 AM) I've already setup smokeping yesterday. Awesome! Maybe also worth pinging Go626201 who has a pretty conclusive smokeping setup here: http://smokeping.mywebping.com/smokeping/  Would be cool if he could share his smokeping config in a zip-file or so - he has soo many servers in there, too much work to copy all  |
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May 17 2024, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(xhruso00 @ May 17 2024, 11:32 AM) Not for me (certain hosts are ok) If you would really engage in this forum and also read what other people write, then you would not post this.Just running a ping and then judging the situation based on that wont give you correct results. |
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May 17 2024, 12:03 PM
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I am just trying to understand why my webhosting has enormous packet loss. According to traceroute is because of different routing.
I did the ping last night as well with same results. I understand I need to have continuos results. No need to scold me for this. QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 17 2024, 11:51 AM) If you would really engage in this forum and also read what other people write, then you would not post this. Just running a ping and then judging the situation based on that wont give you correct results. |
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May 17 2024, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(xhruso00 @ May 17 2024, 12:03 PM) No need to scold me for this. My fault, sorry, didn't mean to come over as someone who scolds.  Just a lot people write in different posts across forum that all is good again - while in reality it isnt. A bit frustrating. |
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May 17 2024, 12:50 PM
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Idk how much this matters but after doing a traceroute to those data center. I've noticed those with lower ping and much stable is routed through TATA(MY -> SG -> IN -> destination) while higher ping is routed through NTT(MY -> SG -> JP -> US -> destination)
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May 17 2024, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(ChenKaiWen @ May 17 2024, 12:50 PM) Idk how much this matters but after doing a traceroute to those data center. I've noticed those with lower ping and much stable is routed through TATA(MY -> SG -> IN -> destination) while higher ping is routed through NTT(MY -> SG -> JP -> US -> destination) is due to longer destination to reach the host so the ping is higher. this is normal.EU normal ping would be 160-190ms US West ping would be 170-190ms US EAST ping would be 220-250ms |
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May 17 2024, 05:37 PM
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Any help why Time optic to EU is much different than Celcom 5G? Time has lousy peering with EU?
  QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 17 2024, 12:16 PM) My fault, sorry, didn't mean to come over as someone who scolds. Just a lot people write in different posts across forum that all is good again - while in reality it isnt. A bit frustrating. |
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May 17 2024, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(xhruso00 @ May 17 2024, 05:37 PM) Any help why Time optic to EU is much different than Celcom 5G? Time has lousy peering with EU? TIME and celcom using different transit provider, you can see the different on traceroute.TIME majority traffic incoming is using NTT which is congested all time right now. |
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May 18 2024, 11:23 AM
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Anyone know the underseas cable broken by ship anchor at Bangladesh connection related to EU fixed yet?
The online game i play before mid April EU server always 165 -175 ping, recently i try log in still getting 250 and random spike 500-1000 pukimak . |
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May 18 2024, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(zuozi @ May 18 2024, 11:23 AM) Anyone know the underseas cable broken by ship anchor at Bangladesh connection related to EU fixed yet? This is what happened:The online game i play before mid April EU server always 165 -175 ping, recently i try log in still getting 250 and random spike 500-1000 pukimak . 1) AAE-1 - 24. Feb 2024: There was a terrorist attack on a boat near Yemen. As a result the boats anchor then cut the cable. 2) SEA-ME-WE 5 - 17.-19. Apr2024: There were maintenance works going on 440km off the coast of Singapore after that salt water penetrated the cable causing an outage. Repair of 2) was estimated to take 2..3 weeks so people are expecting the links again up and better working from around now onwards; however it will take some more time... Since we are already waiting so long.. add another one or two weeks... who cares   |
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May 18 2024, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 18 2024, 01:38 PM) This is what happened: Waa so details thanks 😂1) AAE-1 - 24. Feb 2024: There was a terrorist attack on a boat near Yemen. As a result the boats anchor then cut the cable. 2) SEA-ME-WE 5 - 17.-19. Apr2024: There were maintenance works going on 440km off the coast of Singapore after that salt water penetrated the cable causing an outage. Repair of 2) was estimated to take 2..3 weeks so people are expecting the links again up and better working from around now onwards; however it will take some more time... Since we are already waiting so long.. add another one or two weeks... who cares |
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May 19 2024, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 17 2024, 11:35 AM) Awesome! Feel free to utilize the Target File.Maybe also worth pinging Go626201 who has a pretty conclusive smokeping setup here: http://smokeping.mywebping.com/smokeping/ Would be cool if he could share his smokeping config in a zip-file or so - he has soo many servers in there, too much work to copy all https://1fichier.com/?stwfro58yre9rk3jxxbw rezzorix liked this post
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May 21 2024, 04:21 PM
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Small update.... TIMEDOTCOM connections to Europe are still bad: Frankfurt:  Amsterdam:  petpenyubobo liked this post
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May 21 2024, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 21 2024, 04:21 PM) Small update.... TIMEDOTCOM connections to Europe are still bad: Thanks for the update, it is indeed still not recovered yet. EU connections are exceptionally slow today. The latency in fact even increased further today by some 20-30ms from the usual average 260ms to somewhere now close to 300ms for major servers such as M247 and DataPacket.Frankfurt: Amsterdam: This is unrelated but the African region is now seeing surges in terrorism activities causing even further major disruptions to more undersea cables. African Countries Hit by Major Internet Outage https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202405/14/W...fc043c7104.html QUOTE "Internet to East Africa is severely impaired. All sub-sea capacities between East Africa and South Africa are down. 3 cable cuts in Red Sea that is Seacom, EIG and AAE1 remain unrepaired" Ben said in a post on social media platform X. According to the latest reports, the cable problems have had a severe impact on internet users in Kenya and Tanzania with social media posts suggesting a near total internet blackout in some areas. Rwanda, Uganda and Madagascar also appear to be affected. This is the second time Africa has experienced a major fibre cut this year. In March, a suspected underwater rock slid off the coast of Cote d'Ivoire resulting in several submarine cables being offline. The cables included Africa Coast to Europe, Submarine Atlantic 3 and the West Africa Submarine Cable. The outage impacted 13 African countries located on the West African seaboard, causing either degraded services or near-total internet outages East Africa Outages Stir Fears over Africa’s Internet Vulnerabilities https://www.yahoo.com/tech/east-africa-outa...-134843114.html QUOTE Fresh damage to undersea cables that supply African countries with the internet has raised new fears about the continent’s network vulnerabilities. The damage marks the third widespread disruption since the start of the year. It's already almost a month since the EU connection went down, just about 7 days ago another major breakdown occurred in Africa.Internet users in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, and Rwanda reported different levels of disruption between Sunday and Monday following cuts to two submarine cables, EASSy (East Africa Submarine System) and Seacom. The breaks also caused disruptions in Mozambique, Malawi, and Madagascar, according to Cloudflare, a US internet data company. |
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May 26 2024, 09:59 PM
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Hey guys, happy I just stumbled upon this thread. I'm working remotely in Msia trying to connect to EU servers, it's impossible to complete the handshakes to my VPN and now I think I understand why
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May 27 2024, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(Hoong.ster @ May 26 2024, 09:59 PM) Hey guys, happy I just stumbled upon this thread. I'm working remotely in Msia trying to connect to EU servers, it's impossible to complete the handshakes to my VPN and now I think I understand why the game i play server at Amazone-web cloud..since 20 April the undersea cable break.. the game is unplayable...  when will this nightmare end?? |
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May 29 2024, 03:34 PM
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I'm also still suffering; the only way I manage to surf the internet, especially in the evenings and weekends, is to use a VPN so European traffic is routed differently. Without VPN, European websites are barely usable
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May 29 2024, 03:38 PM
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As long as Malaysia - Japanese line is fine ..
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May 29 2024, 03:55 PM
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undersea cable broken? even lwyt also slow
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May 29 2024, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Rainings @ May 29 2024, 03:55 PM) undersea cable broken? even lwyt also slow certain time is cloudflare issue. Lowyat hosted locally Rainings liked this post
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May 30 2024, 03:12 PM
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Cogent and TELIA transit provider having issue in ASIA region (JPY).
for those ISP who using this transit may expect slowdown currently This post has been edited by heLL_bOy: May 30 2024, 03:12 PM |
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May 30 2024, 08:24 PM
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And another update from my side; still all connections from/to Europe baaaad
My most stable option in terms of latency over the past weeks was a VPN through Mexico City Frankfurt:  Amsterdam:  Previous update: |
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May 31 2024, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ May 30 2024, 08:24 PM) And another update from my side; still all connections from/to Europe baaaad yesterday european websites were unusable without a VPN. Most websites were not loading at all and simple ping tests were dropping most of the paquets, what a disaster... My most stable option in terms of latency over the past weeks was a VPN through Mexico City Frankfurt: Amsterdam: Previous update: This post has been edited by ajimix: May 31 2024, 09:28 AM |
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May 31 2024, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(ajimix @ May 31 2024, 09:27 AM) yesterday european websites were unusable without a VPN. Most websites were not loading at all and simple ping tests were dropping most of the paquets, what a disaster... I am running uptime kuma with notifications from various locations to check the status lot of my services / servers. Had to switch notifications off the uptime kuma instance in my home because of too many notifications that stuff is unreachable for prolonged time. Down notification followed by Up again etc. This really needs to get fixed soon. |
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May 31 2024, 08:00 PM
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1,276 posts Joined: Sep 2018 From: Ampang
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ping to the UK is a very healthy 285ms, no packet loss. Try to fetch a big file in the afternoon or evening and its hopeless. I can see obvious buffer bloat packet loss throttling TCP connection speed.
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May 31 2024, 11:10 PM
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#114
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8 posts Joined: Apr 2010
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From https://myrepublic.net/sg/outage-notificati...-voice-network/
QUOTE 30/05/2024 18:00 : Here is the breakdown of the affected routes and their estimated time of repair (ETR): a. Marseille to Singapore: Multiple links are impacted, with updated ETRs on 1st June, 25th June and 7th July b. Marseille to Hong Kong: ETR is set 25th June c. San Jose to Tokyo: ETR is set End of May d. Osaka to Singapore: ETR is set End of May e. Tokyo to Hong Kong: Two links are affected. ETR for one of the links is End of May 2024 and for the other link no ETR yet 15/05/2024 | 13:00 : We’re aware that a handful of users may have recently experienced slower connections, especially when accessing servers in the Europe and US. This is due to multiple subsea cable cuts impacting various regions, including Europe, the US, and Asia. These fiber breaks have affected our upstream provider’s partners (Telia, Telstra, NTT) and resulted in higher latency and potential connection drops when connecting to these destinations. It’s important to note that overall connection experiences for other regions should not be significantly impacted. Unfortunately, the situation is more complex than initially anticipated. Due to several fiber segments being affected, the estimated time of restoration for full functionality has been extended to June 12th, 2024. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this extended outage may cause. We are actively working with our upstream providers to expedite repairs and will provide further updates as soon as a revised restoration timeline becomes available. Thank you for your patience and understanding. |
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Jun 1 2024, 09:21 AM
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18 posts Joined: Jul 2018
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QUOTE(apocryphite @ May 31 2024, 11:10 PM) Thank you for sharing. They updated the information today, and new fix dates are expected for the end of June... |
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Jun 5 2024, 10:51 PM
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98 posts Joined: Nov 2021
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And again an update; same bad ..... and you guessed it: no improvement.
But thanks to apocryphite who did share this link with updates, we at least know it will take another month or so. The communication of Malaysian ISPs about this issue is more than subpar...  Frankfurt:  Amsterdam:  Previous updates: (21.05.2024) (30.05.2024) |
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Jun 9 2024, 10:30 PM
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18 posts Joined: Jul 2018
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Most European websites are not loading again. I'm coming here as at least lowyat works 😄
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Jun 10 2024, 10:04 PM
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1,276 posts Joined: Sep 2018 From: Ampang
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Still terrible to Europe. I see tricks by the ISP to hide this, fast ping and usually the 1st few MB fast before a queue throttle kicks in.
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Jun 11 2024, 11:15 AM
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1,595 posts Joined: Jan 2016
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Been switching between TIME and Maxis to check on the routing
So far Maxis is fine, however TIME is borderline unusable |
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Jun 12 2024, 10:47 AM
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#120
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98 posts Joined: Nov 2021
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Next update. Still nothing fixed.
Edit: thought for reference to also add a 30 day history this time. Frankfurt:   Amsterdam:   Previous updates: (21.05.2024) (30.05.2024) (05.06.2024)This post has been edited by rezzorix: Jun 12 2024, 10:52 AM |
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Jun 13 2024, 02:07 PM
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1,350 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: HEAVEN & HELL
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EU links wont be so fast resolved, actual date being done keep getting postponed to new date
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Jun 13 2024, 08:07 PM
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1,263 posts Joined: Oct 2009
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come for another parking mid april until now eu server still unplayable the random ping spike holy shit .
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Jun 13 2024, 08:32 PM
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2,631 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Tsimtsum
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Sorry to hijack thread. Anyone noticed Downloading from US sites ... facing very terrible download speeds right now. bahjan_2000 liked this post
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Jun 13 2024, 08:33 PM
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#124
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1,125 posts Joined: Nov 2015
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Site just outside malaysia all shit, even singapore too bahjan_2000 and fluotone liked this post
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Jun 13 2024, 11:30 PM
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#125
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2,608 posts Joined: Nov 2020
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Well,.time to renew for another month of VPN
I found that connecting to DataCamp/DataPacket Japan gives me a decent speed to download from EU for me on TIME |
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Jun 14 2024, 11:55 AM
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1,263 posts Joined: Oct 2009
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SEA-ME-WE 5 Cable this faulty cable waiting Indonesia to fixed right?
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Jun 14 2024, 12:50 PM
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#127
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362 posts Joined: Jan 2011
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Jun 14 2024, 11:55 AM) SEA-ME-WE 5 Cable this faulty cable waiting Indonesia to fixed right? ASEAN Explorer cable ship is carrying out repairing work at the faulty site now. Expecting sometime for them to carry out the repairing work. |
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Jun 14 2024, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(michaelkkl @ Jun 14 2024, 12:50 PM) ASEAN Explorer cable ship is carrying out repairing work at the faulty site now. Expecting sometime for them to carry out the repairing work. Good hope end of July can be fixed 😂😂 |
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Jun 14 2024, 03:55 PM
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#129
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98 posts Joined: Nov 2021
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It definitely got even worse over the course of the past 2 weeks.
Now even with different VPN through North-America is slow and struggling with packet-loss |
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Jun 19 2024, 11:07 AM
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98 posts Joined: Nov 2021
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Hmmm... getting slightly optimistic today... lets see... will post my updated smokeping data tomorrow.
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Jun 20 2024, 02:51 PM
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354 posts Joined: Oct 2010
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Any updates?
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Jun 20 2024, 06:34 PM
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#132
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196 posts Joined: Aug 2018
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Whats the status with China website? Certain Chinese based apps seems really laggy for a few days now.
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Jun 21 2024, 01:42 PM
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#133
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98 posts Joined: Nov 2021
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The last 2..3 days the pings got slightly better and packet loss / jitter has been reduced. Not back to normal, yet, but slight improvements. Frankfurt:  Amsterdam:  Previous updates: (21.05.2024) (30.05.2024) (05.06.2024) (12.06.2024)This post has been edited by rezzorix: Jun 21 2024, 01:43 PM |
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Jun 21 2024, 11:37 PM
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1,259 posts Joined: Sep 2021
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now even connection to China is fking bad
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Jun 22 2024, 09:56 PM
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64 posts Joined: Sep 2018
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Is it just me or its getting worse as the day progresses. I swear last week it wasn't that bad as far as browsing speed goes
This post has been edited by edytion: Jun 22 2024, 09:57 PM |
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Jun 22 2024, 10:19 PM
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5,886 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: BM
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QUOTE(edytion @ Jun 22 2024, 09:56 PM) Is it just me or its getting worse as the day progresses. I swear last week it wasn't that bad as far as browsing speed goes Speed is bad even for browsing LYN during night time.... |
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Jun 22 2024, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Jun 22 2024, 10:19 PM) Speed is bad even for browsing LYN during night time.... I can't even load netflix properly.. Anyone experiencing this as well? |
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Jun 22 2024, 10:34 PM
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#138
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112 posts Joined: Nov 2018
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Massive slowdown when connecting to European VPN servers, both on Unifi and Digi 5G.
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Jun 22 2024, 11:00 PM
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64 posts Joined: Sep 2018
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QUOTE(foxtrotmike @ Jun 22 2024, 10:34 PM) Massive slowdown when connecting to European VPN servers, both on Unifi and Digi 5G. Same here for allo citybroadband |
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Jun 25 2024, 04:26 PM
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143 posts Joined: May 2022
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I even feel slowness on north american VPN.
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Jun 26 2024, 01:39 PM
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98 posts Joined: Nov 2021
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I can only say… use a longterm tool to check 😎
Will post an update again tomorrow; but my pings got significantly better since last week with rare occasions of jitter etc |
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Jun 26 2024, 10:54 PM
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1,276 posts Joined: Sep 2018 From: Ampang
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I am getting problems even opening pages tonight on many sites, but ping is still good. Giving ping QOS priority is a standard trick
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Jun 28 2024, 06:54 AM
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#143
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362 posts Joined: Jan 2011
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QUOTE(michaelkkl @ Jun 14 2024, 12:50 PM) ASEAN Explorer cable ship is carrying out repairing work at the faulty site now. Expecting sometime for them to carry out the repairing work. SEA-ME-WE 5 done repaired, now up and running. |
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Jun 28 2024, 09:13 AM
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Update from https://myrepublic.net/sg/outage-notificati...-voice-network/
QUOTE 26/06/2024 | 23:30 Here is the breakdown of the affected routes and their estimated time of repair (ETR): Marseille to Singapore: Multiple links are still impacted, with updated ETRs on 28th June and 7th July. Marseille to Hong Kong: ETR is set 7th of July Tokyo to Singapore: Initial ETR is set for 14th September. We are looking for possibilities to reduce the time. Hong Kong to Singapore: No ETR Tokyo to Hong Kong: Two links are affected. One link has been restored since 7th June and for the other link no ETR yet |
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Jun 28 2024, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(michaelkkl @ Jun 28 2024, 06:54 AM) SEA-ME-WE 5 done repaired, now up and running. there are still other fault as I received from ISP, now going to US also problem sometimes. |
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Jun 28 2024, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 28 2024, 09:15 AM) there are still other fault as I received from ISP, now going to US also problem sometimes. Yes, the cable ship finished the final joint, but testing is still required to ensure the splice is good. Although the link is operational, but still need to be powered down for the final steps, which may take an additional 6 to 10 hours. After this, there will be a delay before all carriers begin transferring traffic to the link. |
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Jun 28 2024, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(michaelkkl @ Jun 28 2024, 09:23 AM) Yes, the cable ship finished the final joint, but testing is still required to ensure the splice is good. Although the link is operational, but still need to be powered down for the final steps, which may take an additional 6 to 10 hours. After this, there will be a delay before all carriers begin transferring traffic to the link. nice, macam you are in the industry :X |
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Jun 29 2024, 08:29 AM
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369 posts Joined: May 2019
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I can see improvement in my graph but it’s still morning.
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Jun 29 2024, 04:38 PM
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NTT to EU still not yet recover yet.
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Jun 30 2024, 12:26 PM
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Forgot to update
2 day's ago around 8pm playing gw2 EU server the ping no more spiking from 300 to 4k mostly within 201 to 212 not as low as before like 176 to 195 hopefully one more month can fully stable back to 170+ ping |
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Jul 2 2024, 01:54 PM
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