Nothing fishy here, India has laws on VPNs and many providers refuse to comply.

https://www.cloudwards.net/vpn-ban-in-india/



I seriously doubt this. No need to be so dramatic.

This post has been edited by Epic_winner091: Apr 26 2024, 11:33 PM

Telegram down after 12?

Just look at the latency results from places in the Far East such as Tokyo, Hangzhou and Shanghai to Europe.

Shanghai to Amsterdam only 190ms+?

Malu leh for ASEAN region to be close to 400ms.

It's time to reconsider bypassing the troubled Bengal and Middle East war regions and venturing into alternative paths such as the Silk Road, Central Asia and Russia to reach Europe.

Too risky to be overly dependent on those Middle East and India regions to reach Europe.

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Apr 27 2024, 02:42 PM

RETN's TransKZ Terrestrial Land Based Cable Network - Dostyk-HK



TEA-Trans East Asia Europe Terrestrial Cable



So what really happened to the SEA-ME-WE 5 cable and AAE-1 cable which controls >80% of ASEAN-Europe region traffic? Shark bitten? So coincident?
It's a week now, nothing much about how the incident occurred and no official press release and its details.

While we allow this risks of being bargained by India and Middle East? Nope I don't think so.

Russia, China and Central Asia is proven more reliable route to gain access into Western Europe.

Can't risk silly excuses about shark attacking cables, wrongly lowered anchors by ships and octopus messing with the cables nonsense. Faster retrieval and repairs too.

@petpenyubobo it seems you are overthinking this and are a bit too much on a conspiracy path rather than approaching this logically.

1) AAE-1 - 24. Feb 2024: There was a terrorist attack on a boat near Yemen. As a result the boats anchor then cut the cable.
2) SEA-ME-WE 5 - 17.-19. Apr2024: There were maintenance works going on 440km off the coast of Singapore after that salt water penetrated the cable causing an outage.

Even though you see many cables on the map, the 2 cables in question do together 64 Tbits/s (64,000,000 Mbits/s).
The rest of cables together are doing less than that (please correct me if wrong).

Imagine 2 of the biggest, most frequented highways in / around Kuala Lumpur are just closed... because something like that is whats happening.

And thats not enough;
3) in mid March there were several cables cut during a landslide around Africa etc. etc.

Summary:

Due to the issues a lot of traffic has to go different routes and it is not like other cable infrastructure can just take up additional volumes without impact.

What is NOT happening:
Shark bite or anyone trying to cut off SEA from Europe. Makes no sense.

What is happening:
1) Terrorist attack - indirect, yes (AAE-1),
2) Human error, very likely while performing maintenance (SMW-5),
3) Natural disaster, yes (Africa).


What must be done better: Communication from the ISPs to their customers.
Otherwise we will have people go nuts and start making up stories in their minds that are likely not true.

I'm not making a fuss or trying to be dramatic here with my fingers crossed.

There is indeed serious politics and rivalry here among US/Bharat against China at work here.

The construction of the upcoming SMW6 cable consortium initially wanted Huawei Marine Networks(HMN) to supply and build the undersea cable but later was rejected due to their uneasiness with China.

It is important for ASEAN region not to be overly dependent on any side so that we will not be held at ransom in future by certain parties without an alternative.

Two Chinese Operators Withdraw from Sea-Me-We 6 Subsea Cable Project As Tensions with US Grow
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...s-with-us-grow/

In retaliation and to ensure the security of Trans Europe-Asia connectivity to have full monopoly of the access to Europe, China Mobile and China Unicom is making efforts to link Far East Asia via Central Asia/Siberia to reach European shores securely bypassing the risky religious war prone regions of ME/South Asia.

One initiative not made known much to public is the SEA-H2X Cable which is currently slated to be in operation later this year with a design capacity of 160Tbps linking HK, Hainan Island, Songkhla, Kuching and Tuas Singapore.



https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2aafg...e-subsea-bridge

It's being built by HMN (Huawei Marine Networks) with a consortium consisting of China Mobile, China Unicom, ppTelecom(Sarawakian initiative)

This will link into CMI HK's Tseung Kwan O datacentre and SG's Tuas landing Equinix SG3/Global Switch

Via HK, this will route into China(Silk Road) - Central Asia across Trans Siberia/Russia into Europe bypassing the need of over reliance of the risky Middle East/South Asia war torn regions via terrestrial land cables.

Beijing/Hangzhou/Shanghai remains unaffected by the SMW 5 cable incident with an average latency to Europe just below 200ms(Mainland)/250ms(Tokyo).



In comparison the next SEA-ME-WE addition SMW6 only has 126Tbps initial design capacity so this is even more interesting.

I wonder when can this issue be resolved. It has been a week and I still cannot access the website for me to operate my business. Feeling lost.

If there was an alternative link or competing network, you see how fast they'll resolve it?

This is a good lesson to ASEAN and Far East Asian countries not to rely on the Middle East and South Asian countries to reach Europe.

They've been playing politics and blaming China to prevent them from helping build the submarine cables instead award to their own companies to monopolize the trade.

All the recent SMW undersea cables have this controversy.

bruh even vpn is so bad on my celcom digi 5g

trying to access uk bbc iplayer and speeds drop from 500 to 2 when vpn enabled

Depends on what VPN provider you are using and how this VPN routes you.

I had pretty good connection via a VPN through Mexico or Japan to Europe while other entry points with same provider had bad performance.

Some news,

https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/709961

Mauritius Telecom in talks for subsea cable to link Africa, Asia

April 30): Mauritius’ top telecommunications company is in talks with operators including Reliance Jio Infocomm Ltd and Orange SA for a new undersea cable linking Africa, Indian Ocean islands and Asia, improving redundancy in a region hit by breakdowns.

The new line named T4 will replace the South Africa Far East cable that’s coming to end of life in 2027, a quarter of a century after commissioning. T4 will have 1,000 times more capacity than the SAFE, according to Kapil Reesaul, chief executive officer of the Port Louis-based Mauritius Telecom Ltd.

“With so many cable breakdowns we are having, we want to secure the far east with a cable that will run from Mauritius to India and Singapore,” he said in an interview on Monday (April 29).

The urgent need for additional cable infrastructure was highlighted by a disruption last Friday, that impacted the Indian Ocean island nation. The hitch, which was resolved after five hours, was the latest problem after four cables were damaged near the Ivory Coast last month, and three lines off the coast of Yemen that have remained offline since late February.

The new undersea cable will follow “more or less” the same path, as the 13,500-kilometre (8,389-mile) long SAFE that runs from South Africa, by Madagascar, La Reunion and Mauritius, to India and Singapore.

Other operators that could join the consortium include Telkom SA, Telekom Malaysia Bhd, Cable & Wireless Ltd of Seychelles, and maybe China Telecom Corp, he said.

The cost of such a project would be in the range of US$150 million to US$200 million and works may take at least two years, he said. Taking the lead on the T4 reflects Mauritius Telecom’s ambition to become a regional operator, according to Reesaul.

This issue is still present. Any site in Europe is slow to load, and many times fails.

Using a VPN routing the traffic to other countries, like the USA, makes everything work properly but then you are limited in speed by the VPN.

Is there any ETA for when it will be fixed? Contacting the ISP just brings up the usual "everything looks good from our side"...

It seems much worse today

Yeah 440-450ms ping without VPN to UK, and with packet loss.

Using SG VPN drops it down to about 320ms and no packet loss

TM Unifi

EU server: very high ping Latency 400-450ms & 100% PktLoss at night

This morning is so slow to access EU websites and servers, I am with TIME

I think it has improved as of this morning.
Need to check performance a bit over the next hours but it could be that the submarine cable is finally fixed…

I still don't see any improvement

Yesterday night was the worst from past 2 week.