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 Anyone Noticed That European Links Went Bad?, Latency >400ms (Update Aft 2 Mths Unrsv)

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post Apr 22 2024, 08:54 PM, updated 2y ago

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Anyone noticed that Malaysian European links have doubled in latency over weekend?

Funny thing is that if it is cable cut or severed, it should affect entire region but seems SG looks fine and not affected much even HK which is even further from Europe latency for them is even lower than us.

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Why no announcement made or our network administrators still sleeping? laugh.gif

Is there something happening?

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Jun 22 2024, 12:02 AM
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post Apr 22 2024, 09:07 PM

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so far no compliant to access AWS europe region, means all good for me :X
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post Apr 22 2024, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Apr 22 2024, 09:07 PM)
so far no compliant to access AWS europe region, means all good for me :X
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Speeds seem not really affected but the latency can cause authentication failures, dropouts and captcha requests for suspicion.
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post Apr 23 2024, 12:04 AM

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Digital Ocean does have a comment

https://status.digitalocean.com/incidents/21gg18q1ddmv
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post Apr 23 2024, 01:12 AM

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Bangladesh Suffers Internet Outage after SEA-ME-WE 5 Cable Break
Telcos say that their mobile services remain unaffected

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...-5-cable-break/

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As reported by the Daily Star, a Bangladesh newspaper, the breakage occurred just after midnight on April 20.

Despite the disruption, which is expected to last for two-three days, the country's telecom providers have not reported any issues, but are monitoring the situation.

Bangladesh Submarine Cables PLC (BSCPLC), a stakeholder in SEA-ME-WE 5, said the breakage happened between Singapore and Malaysia.

Because of this, all traffic between Singapore and SEA-ME-WE 5’s landing station in Kuakata, Bangladesh, is down. The damage means that Bangladesh has lost 1.7 Tbps of international capacity. The country has been able to source 100 Gbps from the western part of the cable that runs to France.

It also has an additional 2.7 Tbps of terrestrial capacity via international terrestrial cable (ITC) license holders that import bandwidth from India.

"A ship will be mobilized to repair and restore the service. Total operation will take minimum two to three days," Mirza Kamal Ahmed, managing director of the Bangladesh BSCPLC, told the Daily Star.

The traffic has instead been re-routed to the SEA-ME-WE 4 subsea cable, the country's first submarine cable installed in Cox's Bazar. Deployed in 2006, the cable has a capacity of 850 Gbps of bandwidth and has recently been upgraded to a capacity of 3,800 Gbps

The SEA-ME-WE-5, which stands for South East Asia - Middle East - Western Europe 5 Submarine Cable System, was completed in 2017 and connects from Europe to Singapore across 20,000km.

In November 2022, the SEA-ME-WE 5 cable was severed in Egypt, disrupting several countries including Indonesia, Djibouti, Eritrea, Pakistan, and Yemen.

Next year, the SEA-ME-WE 6 cable is set to go live, again connecting Bangladesh, and is set to provide 13,200 Gbps of capacity.


Cable breakdown happened somewhere between Malaysia-Singapore as mentioned in the news, but incident wasn't reported to public.

There seems to be a coverup and no party is coming out to admit it. sad.gif

Access is to Europe is uninterrupted but latency has been increased by 2X from the average 230ms to now 400+ms.

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post Apr 23 2024, 05:37 AM

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Why unifi always so many issue

Some siites load very slow while other ok

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post Apr 23 2024, 07:36 AM

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no idea eu cable cut problem or not
but clicknupload file download not moving
using DiGi Telecommunications Sdn Bhd 4G
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post Apr 23 2024, 07:40 AM

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yeah noticed the slowness in website responses...

makes me feel that the pc is having issues that I have to click twice ..
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post Apr 23 2024, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(JLA @ Apr 23 2024, 07:36 AM)
no idea eu cable cut problem or not
but clicknupload file download not moving
using DiGi Telecommunications Sdn Bhd 4G
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For me unifi is damn slow like on imgur

But if i switch to digi mobile data damn fast

Refer to my post here
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109597582

But it seem some site like u say also slow with digi 4g

Hmmmmm

Looks lika malaysia internet memang hopeless man

How to maju like thisss

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 23 2024, 01:12 AM)
Bangladesh Suffers Internet Outage after SEA-ME-WE 5 Cable Break
Telcos say that their mobile services remain unaffected

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/...-5-cable-break/
Cable breakdown happened somewhere between Malaysia-Singapore as mentioned in the news, but incident wasn't reported to public.

There seems to be a coverup and no party is coming out to admit it. sad.gif

Access is to Europe is uninterrupted but latency has been increased by 2X from the average 230ms to now 400+ms.
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Anything to do with undesea cable faults in our waters can be blamed on Wee Ka Siong and his bullshit cabotage policy.

This post has been edited by dev/numb: Apr 23 2024, 05:30 PM
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post Apr 23 2024, 05:37 PM

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EU latency is still very bad today.

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All local ISPs who is partner of the SEA-ME-WE 5 undersea cable and uses TI-Sparkle (SEABONE) AS6762 is suffering from very bad EU latency at this moment including TM.

Palermo and Marseille are the 2 major cable landing sites (PoPs) in Europe for TI-Sparkle one in South Italy and the other South France.

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Besides TM, both YES (AS45960) and U Mobile (AS38466) are big subscribers to TI-Sparkle. Expect bad EU connections when using them.

Celcom-DiGi are has the best EU connectivity now.


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post Apr 25 2024, 09:23 AM

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Wonder when can they fix this issue. My print server is located in Europe and it’s being a big hassle not able to operate properly. :S
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post Apr 25 2024, 09:25 AM

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Yes. Realized it last night. Anything to europe was snail paced.

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post Apr 25 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Apr 25 2024, 09:23 AM)
Wonder when can they fix this issue. My print server is located in Europe and it’s being a big hassle not able to operate properly. :S
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It happened somewhere between the stretch in between Melaka and Tuas.

The longer it takes the more it shows how incompetent and lousy our cable repair response team is. Bad reputation for the country.

Even Bangladesh reported this incident in their news but ours just kept quiet about it.
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 25 2024, 02:43 PM)
It happened somewhere between the stretch in between Melaka and Tuas.

The longer it takes the more it shows how incompetent and lousy our cable repair response team is. Bad reputation for the country.

Even Bangladesh reported this incident in their news but ours just kept quiet about it.
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I thought was something to do with my office’s network or connection. Did so many “installing”, “uninstalling”, “reinstalling”, plug unplug, reset DNS, reset IP. Even called TM and they said no issue from their end. Wasted an entire day. Gosh.

According to my team, the connections have yet to be resolved. Still slow. How to run a business if the service we are paying for are not doing anything.
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Apr 25 2024, 02:48 PM)
I thought was something to do with my office’s network or connection. Did so many “installing”, “uninstalling”, “reinstalling”, plug unplug, reset DNS, reset IP. Even called TM and they said no issue from their end. Wasted an entire day. Gosh.

According to my team, the connections have yet to be resolved. Still slow. How to run a business if the service we are paying for are not doing anything.
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Why spend more then on an internet connection?

As long as it has good uptime, gets the job done with good speed will do for most of us.

400ms+ average now to EU major destinations. Some close to 500ms inwards such as Switzerland and Austria.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 25 2024, 02:56 PM)
Why spend more then on an internet connection?

As long as it has good uptime, gets the job done with good speed will do for most of us.

400ms+ average now to EU major destinations. Some close to 500ms inwards such as Switzerland and Austria.
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Yeah! So incompetent.
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post Apr 25 2024, 08:10 PM

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See also here TIME response to MCMC complaint:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109614445

Theres also other posts on the pages starting 570 of the main topic.

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post Apr 26 2024, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(rezzorix @ Apr 25 2024, 08:10 PM)
See also here TIME response to MCMC complaint:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109614445

Theres also other posts on the pages starting 570 of the main topic.
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I'm actually very worried about what is going on right now with no official announcement being made or news about this.

Take a good look at this table and tell me is this a big issue and cannot be easily solved?

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Logic thinking will tell you that a simply VPN connection to India, Dubai (UAE) or even Israel will solved this problem. But check out yourself and do a ping to India servers, the pings are even WORST than connecting to Europe itself.

500ms+ from Malaysia to India. Other unaffected destinations such as UAE, Israel all cut off too?

What is happening? Is there a cyber terrorism going on without the public knowledge to cut Malaysia and ASEAN region out from Europe?

Mind you a single undersea cable breakdown between Malaysia and Singapore wouldn't cause this. We have so many other major undersea cables that lands in both SG and Penang FYI.

In Penang alone, there's 4 major cables that links direct to India namely:

SAFE-South Africa Far East Cable
FLAG-Europe-Asia
BBG-Bay of Bengal
AAE1-Asia Africa Europe 1


Also many VPN companies have recently removed physical India servers without any explanation. They virtualized its location that is actually routed from somewhere else like HK.

Something really fishy is cooking here....

A single undersea cable SEA-WE-ME 5 won't have such impact and the easy solutions to reroute to India, plenty of other major cables that link SG and Penang to India/Middle East into Europe.


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post Apr 26 2024, 06:27 PM

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This is not just a few ISPs that are are affected with bad ASN routings in Malaysia.

It's even affecting major ones in SG including Cogent, M247, OVH, Google and NTT.

We have this many submarine cables in this region that could easily reroute to India/Middle East to reach Europe so just a single SEA-WE-ME 5 cable being taken down won't impact the entire region.

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This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Apr 26 2024, 06:28 PM

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