Let’s put it this way.

Muslims don’t understand why Indian Hindus put a red dot on their forehead.
Muslims don’t understand why Chinese Taoists burn papers either.
Muslims don’t understand why Christians hang a crucifix on a chain either.

The Muslims don’t understand why. But the Muslims don’t question or insult it. They accept it as part of the practise of other faiths.
So, similarly.

Non-Muslim don’t have to understand why kalimah Allah or Prophet Muhammad printed on socks is sensitive. It’s fine if non-Muslims don’t understand why it is sensitive.
You just have to accept it and respect it, as how the Muslims accept that Indian Hindus putting a red on forehead, Chinese Taoists burning papers and Christians hanging a crucifix is not something to be insulted.

Simple right?

Worse is non-Muslim leaders kononnya speaking up for non-Muslims and telling Muslims to chill. This one I cannot.

It’s like a Muslim company printing Buddha or Jesus face on a carpet, and then Muslim leaders tell Buddhists Christians to chill 🤯 You see how oxymoronic that is?

No wonder politician like to raid on RnR issue.

for this, agree with the essence of what you are trying to deliver.

but ktards being krards will sure bambu mocking pretend to not understand.

benda boleh gaduh buat apa bincang?

-/ktard

*Cough* Taman Medan *cough*

So u want how now? KK sudah apologize, factory sudah tutup..so need tutup or burn all 800+ KK mart?

Ok sorry cannot cure, so how? What's next? Need see ppl close business baru settle?

This post has been edited by Duckies: Mar 20 2024, 03:46 PM

The problem is non did not know it is sensitive issue, in first place. It is not the question of no need to understand why it is sensitive.

Just like vavi. Many think vavi is haram but chicken is halal. They don't even know that it has to be slaughtered in certain way.

Seriously, no one cares. Life goes on, just mind your own business.

As an atheist, I don't understand all of that and I kutuk all equally.

Well not exactly equally, I don't kutuk islam as much as the rest because I dowan go jail.

EDIT
-No idea why double posted-

This post has been edited by dark_axl21: Mar 20 2024, 03:47 PM

Biasa le, kalau tak condemn negara sendiri atau tak maki kaum lain memang tak sah.

Sendiri kata jangan kacau hornet nest, tapi buat jugak.

Your own words, not mine, I never agree to any form of collective punishment.

It's a honest mistake, why keep bite them and don't let go?

Sama je lah

Tak kira betul atau salah, kenape nak sentuh agama orang lain??


Bila nak report MAZA?

I wonder how long before this issue goes away....
Everyday politician already milking and repeating it....
Move on la...perhaps wanna see KK mart owner or the printing company owner strip off citizenship or hanged only can quiet down

Meow.

Observing peaceful religion.
Is it?

Over sensitive. Harap semua pelabur asing fikir masak-masak dahulu sebelum membuat keputusan untuk labur disini

It is a sensitive issue but of course politician like to go overboard for popularity

Just need another R&R issue to surface then ppl will forget this one.

Like how many still talk about BKT issue now?

It's like ur son made a mistake, say sorry adi..so how? Need pukul ur son til mati?

I x faham faham what is the end game here.

The one that make noise the most noise is politicians and their macai trying to provoke and amp the issue up. Remember MARA digital case?

Won't be surprise this country will go into revolt or anarchy in future with this kind of behavior keep going

This post has been edited by Red_rustyjelly: Mar 20 2024, 03:56 PM

Sure....

KK already apologize but your puak still wanna go full Compton on this: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5446542

The extreme ones keep making things worse, while the educated one remains idle.

Nons better diam2 and observe.

Agree with what TS said.
However in this case, was it done intentionally or was it done on purpose?
We can see the apology and swift containment actions taken by KK Mart.
It doesn't seem to be intentional by any stretch of the imagination.
So if it was a genuine mistake, take action to boycott till bankrupt, issue death threat, burn factory should be applauded?
Where is the composure and forgiveness that all religion teaches?
hmmmmmmmm.....

To be fair we all are aware of the traditions and practice of each religion and we respect that. As a Buddhism I will also rage if someone printed Buddha's face on a carpet like you mentioned and if it is not deliberately done I would accept and apology and thats it. I believe KK Mart case is an honest mistake and had apologize for it and I believe a sincere apology might have sufficient as this is hw we promote our religion which is forgiveness. So to make a fuss out of it I believe there is a politikus agenda here. I myself has alot if good Malay friends too. So I dun think it is about race or religion issue. Just a try to be fame politician using religion and race as a tool to make thing worst and want jadi hero konon. Lets put Malaysia economy first and the priority of rakyat first.

The thing is, the store doesn't do it on purpose, and no one in their right mind especially a business owner wants to make fun of the sacred kalimah. It's a QC problem from KK mart. I too am not happy with the issue. But what I can't stand is the mob justice. Like they've already apologized publicly, what else do you want them to do? Do you want them to go bankrupt? Is it even aligned with the teachings to see many perish and lose their jobs for something that's not intentional?

It is Ramadan. Why don't we all just be forgiving toward each other instead of harboring more hatred towards one another? That's the best dakwah a Muslim can do to attract unbelievers in my view.

To be honest ayam has no issue having a buddha or jesus name printed on carpet.

It is only what it is if u think what it is.

From a different perspective, what does a carpet do? They clean ur feet aint it? So why not think of jesus/buddha cleaning ur feet? How great is that ya?


Anyway back to socks issue... nons dont really care since it does not bother them.
The issue is some ppl are making it an issue like boikot and ordering to kolos shop 14 days and more..

There is sensitive, and there is OVER SENSITIVE and then making it a big issue.

Let's see how long this issue will last ya

Malaysia bila maju?

Means they never treat you as one of their own. Deep in their mind, you and I are juz pendatang and 2nd class citizen no matter how much you contribute to this country.

last time someone with a gamemachine nick also said:

"Every one makes mistakes"

If it was their ore kito shop do u think it will cause such issue?
I guess probably issue online apology and next day forgotten.

Btw inb4 latuk vida fake halal logo apa citer? Just fine and kaw tim movr on right?

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Mar 20 2024, 04:03 PM

Not wrong what U say.

But the problem is the extend of backlash they are responding. Like no matter what they do, it is unforgiven.

How about take a chill pill? There are wrong, apologized, move on. No need to keep revolving the same issue just so they can hurt the wrong doer back.

if it is intentional, I would be mad too, but this case clearly someone screw up big time. They own up the mistake, did what they should have done to address the issue.

Linger the issue tooong benefits no one, and to be honest is hurting their jobs too

This post has been edited by littlegamer: Mar 20 2024, 04:07 PM

Unker is just so tired of this. Plus, just around the time speedmart is going IPO, unker definitely thinks it is fishy. Will claim this clout in the future.

This post has been edited by babayagamalaysia: Mar 20 2024, 04:07 PM

I agree with you that KK should 100% be more careful and be sensitive towards Muslims (and all religions for that matter), especially when your largest market are from that particular demographic. This is very bad business protocol. Finding such socks in your inventory is pretty bad.

However, my stand is that there is still much confusion as to who the culprits are. Let PDRM investigate. once the investigation is completed, and should the situation escalate into a criminal suit, then we should also look at the evidence tendered, submissions from the prosecution and defence, and draw our conclusions from findings of the court.

In the interim, I think we should all reserve our comments. This applies to both sides (boycotters and penyokong alike). Stop saying things that will cause racial tension and friction.

This being said, I'm also a supporter of free market practice. If you think that boycotting is the best decision for you, after taking into consideration, factors such as your beliefs, opinions, price, and etc, go ahead and boycott. There are other options anyway (some may be better, some may be worse, so do your due diligence).

On the other side, for those who think that you don't want to boycott, by all means, continue your support.

Let's stop insulting each other's race, religion, beliefs and opinions just because of a couple pair of socks.

Also, politicians, please fucking behave yourselves. Especially those from the "unity" government.

need alien to invade malaysia then only these people will get their priorities right. hari hari religion saja.

This post has been edited by coyouth: Mar 20 2024, 04:11 PM

agree, i understand the message you are trying to deliver TS.

This guy was roasted yesterday

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry109375597

Really? I often see comments in youtube and malay-based forums that use derogatory terms like kapir, sepet, <racial reference removed>, puak-puak etc. These terms are extremely insulting to us.

Don't tell lies la. If really respect then why ppl sell LGBT watch kena ban kena serbu? Why try to ban 4d toto? Why bak Kut Teh as national dish cannot?

One sided.

Have to use brain here but many don't use em.

Probably there are less than 20 socks printed with the word out of 18,000. (0.11%)

From the number, it was clearly unintentional.

Yet, these mobsters think what they are doing is righteous.

They actually forgot the fundamental of every religion is to instil peace, yet they are going against it.

Kononnya they believe they will go syurga but probably neraka might be waiting for them.

This post has been edited by Thrust: Mar 20 2024, 04:15 PM

Just admit they're over sensitive
And should everywhere put signs and boards saying "We're easily triggered, follow our rules or we will go berserk"

IMO that fella who viral it should be responsible for all these chaos.

He/she should have just inform the outlet manager and let them deal with it.
And pulis only found 5 pairs out of 18K pairs of socks is really really fishy.

We have laws and orders, u butthurt u punya pasal.

We have laws to deal with KK Mart incident, we no need butthurt ppl to fan hatred and come out with syok sendiri punishment everyday.

Errr you can print Budda or Jesus face on a carpet or underwear too... nobody really care.
Just nobody will buy.

Better you go and educate your own race on not going overboard (like want it close down or arson), sudah sorry dan apa mau lagi ? Extremism is a more critical issue than sensitivity.

Ppl like TS don't know what is the meaning of over reacting.

You got your right to be offended. But does that mean you and the offended ppl can keep fanning hatred over a matter that the police and court can take action accordingly with our laws?

If whenever you feel offended, that you deem you can ignore laws and order and keep spreading and fanning hatred and irrational retaliation, then do we still need laws?

I can assure you if anyone did that it will be the same puak that will jump up and down kononnya want to proselytize to Muslim and convert Muslim.

Inb4 angmoh burn Quran and PMX print 10K back

Speaking of which where those gone to? Or already songlap-ted?

Kena tell chill then just chill the heck out la. What so serious until like wanna murder ppl, haiya.


Apparently now sock issue is far more important than Palestine issue already.

Realise yet? Palestine already now put to the corner.

This post has been edited by Etude8891: Mar 20 2024, 04:33 PM

This is soooo true.

U think they will settle after business close?

Muslims once said they will hunt atheist down and kill them.

Did atheist make a big hoo haa? Literally death threat, but act like nothing happened.

Now uproad whole country over 5 socks. But own umno man raped 4 teen boys, we have actual victims. Where the uproar?

There were 0.peoplr got hurt from the socks, but u guys act like millions got massacred.

Priority ke longkang bodo

Hey TS, 21 Jump Street made fun of Korean Jesus, nobody lost their shit pun.


Also TS, if we don't understand why Indians put red dot on their head, we can just ask them.

Unfortunately for you and everyone who lives in the same country as you, your tribe is not allowed to learn about other tribes because of fears of apostasy.

This post has been edited by JohnL77: Mar 20 2024, 04:40 PM

Wrong, got so many cases of students being asked to remove in school, and i've experienced M koliks making fun of it. They dun care, just like they serve beef at event where they know Hindus will attend.


This also wrong, u forgot so many M tergugat when seeing cross in public.


so u can take ur fake assumptions and podah.

as a staunch buddhist myself i don't care if anyone print the image of the buddha on a carpet, its actually for sale, alot of pattern available



i even expect /demand nothing from anyone, no one needs to respect buddhism i really dont care, anyone is free to print the buddha face on anywhere, socks underwear bra doormat etc. there are even buddha doormat for sales



as a buddhist the more hardcore or extreme i get the more i dont give a fark. you are free to insult/hina/ridicule my religion, you respect my religion or not i wont care.

Buddhism teaches that there is no permanent unchanging soul, the 5 aggregates are empty in nature and life is suffering.

People already held press conference and apologise still want to bakar, bunuh, close people business?

where is the moral and value in your religious teaching?

why so insecure in your own religious believe? jeez

This post has been edited by jom.lepak: Mar 20 2024, 04:40 PM

come i found it for you

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/jesus-ray-of...pet-1020964165/

https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005005677837164.html

now ur turn to elaborate ur points further

BTW, how you know it is jesus? Nobody ever see a real portrait of jesus. All available now is setakat imaginasi

"It’s like a Muslim company printing Buddha or Jesus face on a carpet, and then Muslim leaders tell Buddhists Christians to chill"

all the while we memang chill jer.
coz we know staying here in Malaysia as a non bumi, bising also no use.
this is the land of the prince.

What to do, some people has racing heart. Even they understand, they keep mocking as they love racing. When kena hidung sendiri baru shout we want migrate, kami tertindas.

Why people always assume all teachings are peaceful?

i think just over sensitive, people already apologize and check warehouse. why die die want people close 10 days or close shop.

as long as they did not make it purposely to mock or hina. then is consider mistake, which generally all religion in the world i know encourage forgiveness, not what is happening now.

is just pure oversensitive on this issue, full stop. everyone try to do some holy thing in this month. just let go and move on.

Yg pelik kes ni senyap je x repot polis boikot pun🤭

Of course la it’s sensitive issue, but it’s not like they printed 10k of socks. Sometimes it’s just an honest mistake. No one killed or injured. Certain muslims just too sensitive. As muslim myself also don’t think KK mart purposely selling the socks without proper check first.

cases like this is where i know backup plan for nons is very important

i disagree the part TS Muslim dont question or insult

too many times trolled by vocal minority as kafir, babi, non-halal section etc etc

This post has been edited by TruboXL: Mar 20 2024, 04:54 PM

The issue you should be asking is the intention. Was it done on purpose or accidentally. 5 socks out of 18k. So what do you think? Was it intentional?

Most people including nons understand the sensitivity of such matters to Muslim and won’t intentionally do it. They also won’t like it if their religion is ridiculed but most will understand sometimes mistakes happened. A sincere apology is sufficient and people move on.

However, to certain Malays, they are triggered to the extent that it’s not rationalise anymore. KK apologised. The factory even stop production. What do they want? Burn and kill them?

The question you should be asking is whether some people is going overboard with this issue. Look at most of the comments in social media. It’s all basically saying Chinese Naik tocang and they say it’s proof that Chinese is going full force insulting their religion.

I'm alright if you want to do so.

We just throw the carpet away or just don't buy it



This post has been edited by vapanel: Mar 20 2024, 05:10 PM

TS cherry picking as usual. Both sides have many who are understanding and not understanding.

But TS only frames Muslims as understanding and nons as not understanding.

And people wonder why fights happen.

Seriously, i dont think Chinese or Christian will rage on this and ask to boycott, instead i think they will laugh and get over it and head over to dinner tonight.

Seems like TS is retarded because he doesn't understand we can just throw away the carpet or just don't buy it.

He seems like don't have such simple logic of choice

This post has been edited by vapanel: Mar 20 2024, 05:10 PM

And also maybe Allah are above all of them, I dont put my religious over anything important in my life, and maybe that's the reason.

Religion important than everything, that sums up racial behaviour.

Asking Muslim to chill and bawak bertenang pon salah? Chill la bro...

They like to ask for kasi chan but won't bagi chan

Be careful with the last statement if your business is doing it.

It will be the same group of people that will come out and trying to burn down your business, kononnya you are pengkhianat cuba memesongkan akidah Muslim.

This just show how deep TS bury his head inside his religion sand and disconnected from the rest of the world.

Let the proper authorities do their due duties. There's no point stoking here and there.

50 years of brainwash from UMNO and PAS

Malaysia is doomed

accept what la???

you know how many times ive seen malay people offer and pressure hindus and budhist who dont eat beef to try it??

saying its the most delicious thing ever, missing out, bla bla

even in official government functions lmaoo

just imagine if it was the other way?? riot bro

dont try and call other people intolerant when you are in a glass house yourself

we the non muslims sure understand its a sensitive issue. we do understand, accept and respect it.

but do muslims understand that the kk mart boss didnt have the intention to hina your religion? what benefits can he get from all these backlash? unless he is crazy? do you agree?

ok so now the blame goes to the factory that manufacture it. agree?

does the factory have the intention to hina your religion? prc workers most of them dont even know the English alphabet. it could all be just a silly mistake.

if your kid unknowingly step on dogshit and step into your car, do you blame him? just be more careful next time correct?

and lastly, how do you think the benevolent, all loving all forgiving all powerful God would react to this socks incident? would He send the boss to hell or just forgive the boss.

"But the Muslims don’t question or insult it. They accept it as part of the practise of other faiths."

forgot cross incident? dont say your group like so noble, ptui

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...-mb-says/881751

reminded me of don't know which idiot said it is ok to call certain group babi....
but when kena called lembu, all hell break lose....

lol

its already well known certain puak are more easily triggered/confused

We are now because the wrongdoing / policies / etc of our politicians (morons) that systematially keep us divided and bad tempered on slightest issue.

They need this kind of society to cling to power & wealth. Commoners will be too busy with trivial issue that can be solved in simple / amicable way. No time to think & ponder with our country's future, economy, education, etc (anything serious & important).

I do missed good old time when is was so much less R & R. We do lived in harmony & trully respected by our neighbouring country.

alamak koyak ke ts

if need explain so much, means koyak la tu

meanwhile every certain day, who need toleransi & cannot persoal?

people are just working , it was mistake. They apologized few times.

now factory shut down. Imagine how many innocents families are drag into this.

What else you want? boycott ? Mature sikit la

Why can't you just move on ?







This post has been edited by Mr.Ballz: Mar 20 2024, 05:28 PM

From East Malaysian using the word in their bible to today KK mart.
Those entitled kid still never grows to become and adult and think maturely. (Still act in herd, when useless politician speaks).
And the herd sure have scared foreign investment. You can check how hard foreign fund selling in KLSE if you know. (But I am sure you won't because you will take it as none of your business)

You will chill when your kid tells you that they are jobless and not afford food.

This post has been edited by denver1347: Mar 20 2024, 05:44 PM

The issue is not about aware of sensitive or not. People aware is sensitive, but mistakes happens.

We also need to see intend on each case.

If want take another example, this is one.

I am a contractor repairing the roof above a Hindu Deity statue, I've taken all possible precaution, I wear safety harness, secure my paint, wear safety helmet.

Then suddenly a hawk flew by and hit me and causing me to lose balance causing red paint to fell on the Hindu Deity statue. I'm sure that is disrespectful to Hindu if you pour red paint on it, but this is an accident. I took all precaution to prevent paint from touching the statue, but who know there will be a freaking hawk bang me ? I am not prepare for that and you cannot blame me as it's it's not a normal thing to do (preparing for a hawk attack).

Should I be beaten up and jailed because of this accident even after I apologized ?

But if someone purposely take a red paint and threw to the Hindu statue, yes, he deserved to be jailed.

In the two example above, the end result is the same which is Hindu statue being thrown red paint which if taken out of context is disrespectful, but one of the cases is an accident and it should not be considered disrespectful.

Saying something is sensitive does not give u blanket permission to behave however u want in response.

What's wrong with calming down to have more level headed discussions?

If akmal ask kk mart management to commit sepukku in front of camera, cannot ask to calm down? Where is the line drawn when a reaction becomes an overreaction?

When exactly can nons request to calm down when it seems like the vitriol is evolving into a racial angle. Diam diam rollover and hope everything OK ah? Ideally got malay politician come and do this lah but after 3 4 days seems like only stirring up more shit, no stern and moderating voice. So how?

This post has been edited by bonedragon: Mar 20 2024, 06:01 PM