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post Jan 21 2024, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jan 20 2024, 05:24 PM)
Need a law that regulates e-hailing and guarantees the minimum fare to drivers

Like how it's done in singapore
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Malays lookdown singapore bukan? We cannot follow singapore way…
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post Jan 21 2024, 01:23 AM

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what justify grab driver should earn better than average if their skill requirement is lower than average ? like at least 50% ppl that working can almost instantly become grab driver, if salary good, whats the point ppl work in other fields ?
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post Jan 21 2024, 01:25 AM

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They already take 30% cut from merchant, now they want to take from frontliner riders. Seems like not a sustainable business.
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post Jan 21 2024, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jan 21 2024, 12:56 AM)
Sounds rough, especially since you need to maintain your ride and the traffic risks too.
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Yep, more and more people are dropping out.

The unfortunate case is many who chose to drop out of school/college/university the few years when the pandemic drove the demands up are all now unable to compete in the workforce because they lack the experience and the qualifications to move on to better things.

So they are the ones stuck doing this as the 4-6k is still considered better than what they might get. But it comes as a cost as they don't get any advancement in skills and knowledge, no medical, no insurance, hours are becoming worse to maintain same revenue, and profits are lower due to the lower pricing and the need to maintain their vehicles.

Those that bought new ones are mostly now coming to major service periods and it's costing a lot.


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post Jan 21 2024, 01:47 AM

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I am not pay RM5 for deliveries fees with mark up price of my food compare to i walk in.


Then kena tax charged lagi.

I stop using foodpanda/grabfood almost 2 years already. The price is ridiculous. I prefer cook myself or go for any restaurant to get my lunch.

Only stupid people order overpriced food using foodpanda/grab nowadays.
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post Jan 21 2024, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(forgotoldlogin @ Jan 21 2024, 01:25 AM)
They already take 30% cut from merchant, now they want to take from frontliner riders. Seems like not a sustainable business.
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Grab every year also not much profit. Lose maybe.
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post Jan 21 2024, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jan 19 2024, 07:25 AM)
Be careful though,  a lot of scams on the website too, accept payment through Upwork platform only
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Like that people do work for free then the poster cabut? A quick search I see Bangladesh and Pakistan clients posts , macam scams.
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post Jan 21 2024, 02:39 AM

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not up to /K standard of 20k saleri.....everyone in /K earning over 20k min
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Jan 21 2024, 02:27 AM)
Like that people do work for free then the poster cabut? A quick search I see Bangladesh and Pakistan clients posts , macam scams.
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Yes, a lot, so self as freelancer also need to vet.

But if you really have the skills, a lot of work can be found.

This post has been edited by Chowda: Jan 21 2024, 02:51 AM
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post Jan 21 2024, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(SixteenNine @ Jan 21 2024, 01:47 AM)
I am not pay RM5 for deliveries fees with mark up price of my food compare to i walk in.
Then kena tax charged lagi.

I stop using foodpanda/grabfood almost 2 years already. The price is ridiculous. I prefer cook myself or go for any restaurant to get my lunch.

Only stupid people order overpriced food using foodpanda/grab nowadays.
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Yes, but you must remember why such services exist. So that you don't have to take trouble of driving out, stuck in traffic going out, wait for order under hot sun, then get stuck again going back.

For the delivery fee, that is a fair amount to pay. Only problem is that fewer riders are willing to do it due to ever lower rates, you can blame it on Grab, not to the rider.

How about you go register as a Grab delivery, discover how difficult or troublesome it is first. Once you know their hardship then maybe you will think otherwise.
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post Jan 21 2024, 04:12 PM

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we are a low income society need to surpress wages... lagi lower better, maybe let bangla do grab food grab car.. olang malaysia sukak.
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post Jan 21 2024, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Jan 21 2024, 02:39 AM)
not up to /K standard of 20k saleri.....everyone in /K earning over 20k min
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At the same time getting SARA/BR1M
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QUOTE(cms @ Jan 21 2024, 04:28 PM)
At the same time getting SARA/BR1M
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rindu zaman br1m rm500 wehhhhhhh

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post Jan 21 2024, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(mee udang @ Jan 21 2024, 04:08 PM)
Yes, but you must remember why such services exist. So that you don't have to take trouble of driving out, stuck in traffic going out, wait for order under hot sun, then get stuck again going back.

For the delivery fee, that is a fair amount to pay. Only problem is that fewer riders are willing to do it due to ever lower rates, you can blame it on Grab, not to the rider.

How about you go register as a Grab delivery, discover how difficult or troublesome it is first. Once you know their hardship then maybe you will think otherwise.
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Why should I register as deliverey rider and experience their hardship, when I myself get my own food at shop?

But u are right. The delivery service is good for consumer, to have more choice, but some capitalist want to suck blood dry all 3 element in their business frame work which is,
1. Food vendor - grab mark up the price
2. Rider - the tier commission, or delivery fees share with Grab %
3. Consumer - with mark up price and delivery fees RM5 minimum, the food price become almost double.

I always support the delivery service. But, maybe too much rider and the equilibrium between rider, consumer and food vendor not there yet

This post has been edited by SixteenNine: Jan 21 2024, 09:11 PM
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post Jan 21 2024, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(SixteenNine @ Jan 21 2024, 01:49 AM)
Grab every year also not much profit. Lose maybe.
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but the big bawse bought SG$40 mil big bungalow in SG

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in MY , he did the same stunt with Uber last time by taking over foodpanda

https://www.nst.com.my/business/corporate/2...024-price-issue

unfortunately he cant do the same in Indonesia whistling.gif

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jan 21 2024, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(SixteenNine @ Jan 21 2024, 09:10 PM)
Why should I register as deliverey rider and experience their hardship, when I myself get my own food at shop?

But u are right. The delivery service is good for consumer, to have more choice, but some capitalist want to suck blood dry all 3 element in their business frame work which is,
1. Food vendor - grab mark up the price
2. Rider - the tier commission, or delivery fees share with Grab %
3. Consumer - with mark up price and delivery fees RM5 minimum, the food price become almost double.

I always support the delivery service. But, maybe too much rider and the equilibrium between rider, consumer and food vendor not there yet
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your shop dont support Lalamove kah?
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post Jan 21 2024, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(SixteenNine @ Jan 21 2024, 09:10 PM)
Why should I register as deliverey rider and experience their hardship, when I myself get my own food at shop?

But u are right. The delivery service is good for consumer, to have more choice, but some capitalist want to suck blood dry all 3 element in their business frame work which is,
1. Food vendor - grab mark up the price
2. Rider - the tier commission, or delivery fees share with Grab %
3. Consumer - with mark up price and delivery fees RM5 minimum, the food price become almost double.

I always support the delivery service. But, maybe too much rider and the equilibrium between rider, consumer and food vendor not there yet
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With this kind of thinking, it's like

Why i need to pay a barber? I can cut my own hair
Why i need to pay a painter? I can paint my own house
Why i need to pay a cleaner? I can clean my own house
Why i need to pay a house maid? I can take care of my own babies
Why i need to pay a tour guide? I can read about the place's history on wikipedia

etc etc etc

lol

It's a service and convenience, some people need it more than others, maybe cos too busy or physically challenged

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Jan 21 2024, 09:28 PM
urnicksux2
post Jan 21 2024, 09:27 PM

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thx to grab now more people interested with taxi driver profession

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post Jan 22 2024, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(SixteenNine @ Jan 21 2024, 09:10 PM)
Why should I register as deliverey rider and experience their hardship, when I myself get my own food at shop?

But u are right. The delivery service is good for consumer, to have more choice, but some capitalist want to suck blood dry all 3 element in their business frame work which is,
1. Food vendor - grab mark up the price
2. Rider - the tier commission, or delivery fees share with Grab %
3. Consumer - with mark up price and delivery fees RM5 minimum, the food price become almost double.

I always support the delivery service. But, maybe too much rider and the equilibrium between rider, consumer and food vendor not there yet
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Because you're paying for the hardship of the rider. The sun, rain, waiting time from vendor (big F to Kyochon, KFry, Secret Recipe for wasting my time).

There aren't that many riders anymore since COVID, I can tell. Even GrabCar is hard to get these days due to less drivers.

As a rider, I sometimes see food I have to deliver costing hundreds, but what I can afford at end of day? Just plain nasi lemak, maybe RM5 is my budget for the day.

So when I read news that many don't intend to further education and do gig jobs, I just facepalm at the bad choice, if you want to do gig part time is fine but now I've seen rates for riders go as low as RM1-2 per delivery, its not a job, is pure torture.
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post Jan 22 2024, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(mee udang @ Jan 22 2024, 03:16 PM)
Because you're paying for the hardship of the rider. The sun, rain, waiting time from vendor (big F to Kyochon, KFry, Secret Recipe for wasting my time).

There aren't that many riders anymore since COVID, I can tell. Even GrabCar is hard to get these days due to less drivers.

As a rider, I sometimes see food I have to deliver costing hundreds, but what I can afford at end of day? Just plain nasi lemak, maybe RM5 is my budget for the day.

So when I read news that many don't intend to further education and do gig jobs, I just facepalm at the bad choice, if you want to do gig part time is fine but now I've seen rates for riders go as low as RM1-2 per delivery, its not a job, is pure torture.
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Thanks bro because become a rider.



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