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the_catacombs
post Nov 3 2007, 04:52 AM

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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Nov 3 2007, 04:47 AM)
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why not sleeping yet?
mmu still cuti right?

if i were u,
i'd sleep all day mah~
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going to start sem this monday... got exam this monday as well... sad.gif sad.gif
apache_utara
post Nov 3 2007, 04:54 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 3 2007, 04:52 AM)
going to start sem this monday... got exam this monday as well... sad.gif  sad.gif
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wah..
new sem got exam?
how come la...

don't say must take supp paper la..
haha~

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post Nov 3 2007, 04:59 AM

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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Nov 3 2007, 04:54 AM)
wah..
new sem got exam?
how come la...

don't say must take supp paper la..
haha~
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cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

studying now la... dun kacau... shakehead.gif
apache_utara
post Nov 3 2007, 05:01 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 3 2007, 04:59 AM)
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studying now la... dun kacau... shakehead.gif
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haha..
thought so..
what paper la?

i'm also studying mah
sunday,tuesday, & wednesday got test also
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the_catacombs
post Nov 3 2007, 05:12 AM

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engineering mathematics 3

exam this monday afternoon... cry.gif
apache_utara
post Nov 3 2007, 05:19 AM

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haha..
engineering maths..
i forgot equivalent what subject for my uni,
but i hate it la..
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good luck bro..
may the force be with you
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the_catacombs
post Nov 3 2007, 05:30 AM

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haha... thanks... i need all the force now... aih....
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post Nov 3 2007, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 3 2007, 05:25 AM)
go kepong do what??  brows.gif  brows.gif
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ya lo,apa hal u nowadays so gatal d? ?
i send her kepong later for her company trip la. . . .
haiz. . .
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post Nov 3 2007, 07:38 AM

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morning guys.....today really bad day,this morning came back from yum char around 3am, i can sense someone tailgaiting me from bulatan pahang-genting kelang-wangsa maju.After sensing that car still follow me, i turn to tbr, then out terus pecut back home from brj..nasib baik the traffic light at brj help me. realy scary, din manage to look at the plate number, but it is a black wira SE i think.
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post Nov 3 2007, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Nov 2 2007, 07:29 PM)
PCD 110 is for what car? kancil ar?

how to measure the PCD? measure from where up to where? got gambarajah?  hmm.gif

the suitable offset is how much sifoo? 38 or 37?

how 'bout jj?
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For wira Vios icon_idea.gif


Added on November 3, 2007, 8:54 am
QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 3 2007, 07:38 AM)
morning guys.....today really bad day,this morning came back from yum char around 3am, i can sense someone tailgaiting me from bulatan pahang-genting kelang-wangsa maju.After sensing that car still follow me, i turn to tbr, then out terus pecut back home from brj..nasib baik the traffic light at brj help me. realy scary, din manage to look at the plate number, but it is a black wira SE i think.
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maybe he mistaken that u r a gal drool.gif

This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Nov 3 2007, 08:54 AM
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post Nov 3 2007, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:39 AM)
hmm...k&n need to oil again after wash rite?
the only way that a filter can increase efficiency is by reducing the resistance to the airflow of the intake manifold
this in turn would mean either a thinner membrane, or bigger holes in the filter membrane
either way, the bottom line is the same...more dust particles get into the engine

these kind of filters evolved from racing and rally cars
i do admit that they improve performance
but as the saying goes....theres no such thing as a free lunch
there is always a compromise somewhere

in this case, its in the life of the engine
more particulate entering into the combustion chamber wears out parts faster (think sand paper)

the vac gauge does not influence the operation of the engine's system in any way therefore it will last as long as it can as long as it is properly taken care of
you can monitor how much you press and thus make sure that you are not merely dumping unburnt hydrocarbons into the atmosphere
this is especially important for underpowered cars like the iswara lmst as it is easy to overpress when it comes to underpowered cars


Added on November 3, 2007, 12:43 am

err...arent we then not addressing the real problem at hand?
the doors sound 'tinny' (like milo tin) coz the outer door panel vibrates and has no damping on it
that is the main source of the sound from the doors
even if you insulate the plastic panel inside, the metal outer panel is still vibrating
this vibration transfers to the rest of the car body through the door links and will thus increase the overall cabin noise

its better to try and stop the problem at the source...not just cover it up wink.gif
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so what should we do b4 soundproofing?

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post Nov 3 2007, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Nov 3 2007, 12:20 AM)
i stick insuflex on the door panel instead on the door.. so far ok.. everythg works fine..
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Stick at door panel and at the door(not inside. The plastic sheet there) is good... Later when I done sound proof at shop, i post give u see.. ehehe..

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 3 2007, 12:31 AM)
this one will shock u even more... biggrin.gif

user posted image
sifoo really sifoo... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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That is ronnie car ma. Hehe.. He dunno join what competition liao oh..

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Nov 3 2007, 01:17 AM)
i using the white colour filter....good quality 1.my uncle bought it for me.

i see alot saga/iswara,wira using k&n filter.
so good ah?
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How good quality you mean? hmm.gif hmm.gif

K&N filter is good. And why so many ppl using it? Because of the K&N brand. While K&N filter can be clean with the special cleaning chemical from K&N. K&N drop in is better that open pod or can said, K&N drop in can be open pod too...

QUOTE(kweng84 @ Nov 3 2007, 02:25 AM)
Yeah, KNN drop-in is still the best but as for open pod, really no comment. Heard some other ppl's feedback bout KNN open pod. Hmm..
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Bro kweng, when you free ler?? I need suggestion and quotation for exhaust setup..


Added on November 3, 2007, 9:42 am
QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:05 AM)
err...you should leave the holes in the beams open
those holes are there for ventilation
if water gets in and all is closed (and it will get in...thats y the whole car can drain...all the beams...under the car...the channels forming the door sill...in the bonnet...even the doors have drainage holes....), water vapor will be trapped inside n cant dry out that fast
and as im sure u all know...water n iron dont exactly make a good team
the engine will most prolly be more silent compared to using the triangular pieces
but then the life of the metal will be compromised sad.gif

and btw...its not sound waves we are trying to stop from getting out when we install this sound insulation as we call it
it is actually damping material
we are basically trying to dampen the vibration of the metal surface in question
not stop sound waves from penetrating it (which is impossible as the metal is a solid and sound waves are merely vibrating air particles)
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Actually my main reason for that, is not for dampen the bonnet for vibration. I just wanna lower down the engine sound. About the ventilation, I don't scare because my front grill is a mesh which those hot air can go tru or even the water can dry fast. I had try spray water inside the bonnet, then close the bonnet. Within 2 or 3 minutes, the water get dry. After I stick that, seriously that the the engine sound had been lower.

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:39 AM)
hmm...k&n need to oil again after wash rite?
the only way that a filter can increase efficiency is by reducing the resistance to the airflow of the intake manifold
this in turn would mean either a thinner membrane, or bigger holes in the filter membrane
either way, the bottom line is the same...more dust particles get into the engine

these kind of filters evolved from racing and rally cars
i do admit that they improve performance
but as the saying goes....theres no such thing as a free lunch
there is always a compromise somewhere

in this case, its in the life of the engine
more particulate entering into the combustion chamber wears out parts faster (think sand paper)

the vac gauge does not influence the operation of the engine's system in any way therefore it will last as long as it can as long as it is properly taken care of
you can monitor how much you press and thus make sure that you are not merely dumping unburnt hydrocarbons into the atmosphere
this is especially important for underpowered cars like the iswara lmst as it is easy to overpress when it comes to underpowered cars


Added on November 3, 2007, 12:43 am

err...arent we then not addressing the real problem at hand?
the doors sound 'tinny' (like milo tin) coz the outer door panel vibrates and has no damping on it
that is the main source of the sound from the doors
even if you insulate the plastic panel inside, the metal outer panel is still vibrating
this vibration transfers to the rest of the car body through the door links and will thus increase the overall cabin noise

its better to try and stop the problem at the source...not just cover it up wink.gif
*
How I sound proof my door? I stick door panel, door metal inside and also the plastic sheet there.. If wanna see good sound proof, try feralee car. His door sound proof feel like mercedes door. Heaving and solid..

This post has been edited by singchaii: Nov 3 2007, 09:42 AM
dopeisgood
post Nov 3 2007, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 3 2007, 04:52 AM)
going to start sem this monday... got exam this monday as well... sad.gif  sad.gif
*
hahah me too here havin exams.. damn..

QUOTE(apache_utara @ Nov 3 2007, 05:01 AM)
haha..
thought so..
what paper la?

i'm also studying mah
sunday,tuesday, & wednesday got test also
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
*
y now is exam season izzit

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 3 2007, 07:38 AM)
morning guys.....today really bad day,this morning came back from yum char around 3am, i can sense someone tailgaiting me from bulatan pahang-genting kelang-wangsa maju.After sensing that car still follow me, i turn to tbr, then out terus pecut back home from brj..nasib baik the traffic light at brj help me. realy scary, din manage to look at the plate number, but it is a black wira SE i think.
*
u r 1 lucky dude man.. or else kena rape d.. hahaha

QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 3 2007, 09:35 AM)
Stick at door panel and at the door(not inside. The plastic sheet there) is good... Later when I done sound proof at shop, i post give u see.. ehehe..
That is ronnie car ma. Hehe.. He dunno join what competition liao oh..
How good quality you mean?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

K&N filter is good. And why so many ppl using it? Because of the K&N brand. While K&N filter can be clean with the special cleaning chemical from K&N. K&N drop in is better that open pod or can said, K&N drop in can be open pod too...
Bro kweng, when you free ler?? I need suggestion and quotation for exhaust setup..


Added on November 3, 2007, 9:42 am
Actually my main reason for that, is not for dampen the bonnet for vibration. I just wanna lower down the engine sound. About the ventilation, I don't scare because my front grill is a mesh which those hot air can go tru or even the water can dry fast. I had try spray water inside the bonnet, then close the bonnet. Within 2 or 3 minutes, the water get dry. After I stick that, seriously that the the engine sound had been lower.
How I sound proof my door? I stick door panel, door metal inside and also the plastic sheet there.. If wanna see good sound proof, try feralee car. His door sound proof feel like mercedes door. Heaving and solid..
*
bout d insuflex stick on the door panel is being advised by sum guy in autogen.. so far i onli did for front door panels.. ltr dis month gonna do rear door panels.. the door metal between the plastic sheet can be stick kah?? effect good?
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:36 AM

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morning all happy.gif

TT DAY TT DAY TT DAY ...............

what for so happy oh ? =.=
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:43 AM

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morning proton drivers....my fever gone rclxm9.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:47 AM

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ok that goof your fever is ok back
got see doctor?
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:49 AM

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wish u guys have a safe and wonderful TT!!! haha rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
too bad i cant join.. sad.gif sad.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(andychan @ Nov 3 2007, 11:47 AM)
ok that goof your fever is ok back
got see doctor?
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no..

i telan panadol acti-fast 2 bijik..then sleep biggrin.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(how to save a life @ Nov 3 2007, 11:51 AM)
no..

i telan panadol acti-fast 2 bijik..then sleep biggrin.gif
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panadol acti-fast got very high contain drug hmm.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Nov 3 2007, 11:09 AM)
hahah me too here havin exams.. damn..
y now is exam season izzit
u r 1 lucky dude man.. or else kena rape d.. hahaha
bout d insuflex stick on the door panel is being advised by sum guy in autogen.. so far i onli did for front door panels.. ltr dis month gonna do rear door panels.. the door metal between the plastic sheet can be stick kah?? effect good?
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i next week only start exam.. 3 weeks to suffer cry.gif

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