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post Jan 7 2024, 01:14 PM, updated 2y ago

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post Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM

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wow! ini machiem pun ada kah
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tnb tak potong sebab gate sentiasa berkunci bila datang rumah ni. Mereka tak ada hak untuk menceroboh rumah tanpa consent daripada pemilik berdaftar. Dah cuba call pemilik tapi tak pernah berangkat.

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post Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM

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Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection?
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM

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Tnb will waive?

So good?
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM

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if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..

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post Jan 7 2024, 01:21 PM

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Aik.. why tnb so generous one? Normally will cut after exceed depo..

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post Jan 7 2024, 01:22 PM

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stupid TNB did not cut the power even the money owned is more than the security deposit
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..
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dude you do know that if TNB did not get the chase the account owner they will just cut the power and then will not reconnect unless the old bill is settled even you're the new owner of the unit. If everyone does that TNB could go bust
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection?
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Can. But you think kuli level tnb worker will bother report and take action? That's why whenever scammer call me say they want to help me save money I always laff at them.
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:23 PM)
dude you do know that if TNB did not get the chase the account owner they will just cut the power and then will not reconnect unless the old bill is settled even you're the new owner of the unit. If everyone does that TNB could go bust
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then current new law that tenant can registered under their name,.. if tenant lari,.. owner also cannot sambung balik ??..
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:30 PM

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macam cool story je, TNB will potong and that new unit can't register new meter until owner settle the bill le hmm.gif
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:29 PM)
then current new law that tenant can registered under their name,.. if tenant lari,.. owner also cannot sambung balik ??..
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The hutang will follow name.

But tnb will cut that house power, until huang cleared baru sambung balik

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post Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..
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Owner or tenant still the same. The billing is tied to the premise address and lot number.

That's why don't simply buy lelong properties as it may came with bill shock surprises.

I know someone who bought a condo unit in the lelong market received a bill shock of over 50k in MC maintenance bills.
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 02:29 PM)
then current new law that tenant can registered under their name,.. if tenant lari,.. owner also cannot sambung balik ??..
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Cannot.
Bill need to be settle on that house first . Before any further tnb connection. So owner must settle the bill.
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:38 PM

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so kira tak halal la for the penyewa but as per nasiputih, bumi ini milik siapa
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:23 PM)
dude you do know that if TNB did not get the chase the account owner they will just cut the power and then will not reconnect unless the old bill is settled even you're the new owner of the unit. If everyone does that TNB could go bust
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bro ,.. just read the story inside,.. it said TNB will waive it,..
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:39 PM

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TNB frontdesk already said the same thing. Owner or tenant still the same status. If got outstanding, either party just settle first then only can resume connection.
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Jan 7 2024, 01:32 PM)
The hutang will follow name.

But tnb will cut that house power, until huang cleared baru sambung balik
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM)
Owner or tenant still the same. The billing is tied to the premise address and lot number.

That's why don't simply buy lelong properties as it may came with bill shock surprises.

I know someone who bought a condo unit in the lelong market received a bill shock of over 50k in MC maintenance bills.
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM)
Cannot. 
Bill need to be settle on that house first  .  Before any further  tnb connection.  So owner must settle the bill.
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then those register the TNB account under the tenants name is just a gimmick ???.. owner still liable to the bill ??.... might as well owner skip that process and take higher utility deposits,..
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:42 PM

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Maybe this applies to nons only

QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:39 PM)
TNB frontdesk already said the same thing. Owner or tenant still the same status. If got outstanding, either party just settle first then only can resume connection.
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection?
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for landed, they have no authority to masuk
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
Tnb will waive?

So good?
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where got. tnb will blacklist the account holder lah that's for sure
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
Tnb will waive?

So good?
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janji kulit sama warna ok dah
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ Jan 7 2024, 01:42 PM)
Maybe this applies to nons only
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Applies to all la. TNB don't care u master race or not. Hutang must pay. No pay, they potong straight. Don't care if house got elderly, sick or small kids.
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(WhiskeyTango777 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:30 PM)
macam cool story je, TNB will potong and that new unit can't register new meter until owner settle the bill le  hmm.gif
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agent will say moon star heaven everything one - sure BBB UUU one

due diligence lah what else
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 01:44 PM)
where got. tnb will blacklist the account holder lah that's for sure
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Then maybe the post mean waive for new owner and tnb will sort out with account holder. wink.gif
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM)
Owner or tenant still the same. The billing is tied to the premise address and lot number.

That's why don't simply buy lelong properties as it may came with bill shock surprises.

I know someone who bought a condo unit in the lelong market received a bill shock of over 50k in MC maintenance bills.
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THIS

one need to do basic checking at JMB office

otherwise surprise pikachu lah what else
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 01:44 PM)
where got. tnb will blacklist the account holder lah that's for sure
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yeah but in this case, since new owner win the bid, TNB will waive for premise only. old owner still owe TNB 21K, still need to pay, old owner couldn't make any new connection untik 21K settled.
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QUOTE(mi-g @ Jan 7 2024, 01:47 PM)
yeah but in this case, since new owner win the bid, TNB will waive for premise only. old owner still owe TNB 21K, still need to pay, old owner couldn't make any new connection untik 21K settled.
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as far as I can remember

no reconnection will be made UNTIL the previous hutang locked on the premise settled

dunno if they change to rules now

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post Jan 7 2024, 01:49 PM

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21k and TNB never bother to check, chase, or cut them off...

Owaiii... msia level of efficiency, expected LAAAA
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Jan 7 2024, 01:49 PM)
21k and TNB never bother to check, chase, or cut them off...

Owaiii... msia level of efficiency, expected LAAAA
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most probably on the last few months , tenants sudah tau time sudah sampai kana kick out he go blast ac 24/7

I know tnb dem efficient if u didnt pay for 3 months sure red letter mari

example

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post Jan 7 2024, 01:51 PM

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Previous owner kena settled. Not new buyer.
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(cubiclecarbonate @ Jan 7 2024, 01:51 PM)
Previous owner kena settled. Not new buyer.
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Lelong properties usual the owner already bankrupt, so impossible to settle. Sue also useless, also cannot settle.
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post Jan 7 2024, 01:57 PM

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I believe the guy bought a terrace house. Probably low cost unit.

Like in USA those USD 1 houses. It is big and you have yard and all that. But then it comes with city fees/ tax that costs a lot.



Japan too has those free to cheap houses also.



But here the cost to transport things and renovate is very expensive. again taxes is another matter.

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This is why i don't like to rent to tenants

I had multiple tenants don't pay or don't pay the whole amount

Yes, I know you are supposed to change TNB to tenant's name when u rent. But it's still a hassle dealing with tenants

Some older houses have their meter inside the house, so officer can't intrude to cut supply if no one at home. Normally tenant will just ignore and hide inside house if they see TNB officer
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:54 PM)
Lelong properties usual the owner already bankrupt, so impossible to settle. Sue also useless, also cannot settle.
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I have a friend that lost his family home this way also. I did not know that their house was funded by his late mothers pension. Later she died due to kidney failure. And the house is no longer financed. I think their kids all have their own homes and family and decide not to help keep the house. End up kena lelong. sad.gif
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wah, tunggakan 21k tnb not potong karan ka?
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Whoever has the need to use the house eventually have to bear the cost of reconnection. Legally the fee is owed by previous owner/tenant, but TNB cut the power just the same and won't reconnect until the debt is settled. So the new owner cannot wait forever so eventually is forced to pay.

If someone knows a trick that can convince TNB to reconnect the meter without clearing the past debt due to debt not owed by new owner, please share here. Asking for a friend. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sprix @ Jan 7 2024, 01:21 PM)
Aik.. why tnb so generous one? Normally will cut after exceed depo..
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From past experiences, TNB will not cut the meter even when the debt exceed deposit. Why TNB is willing to do that, don't know. But that is what happens out there and that's why you keep seeing TNB debts in thousands or tens of thousands.

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:41 PM)
then those register the TNB account under the tenants name is just a gimmick ???.. owner still liable to the bill ??.... might as well owner skip that process and take higher utility deposits,..
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Owner not legally liable for the bill. But won't get TNB service since meter already cut and won't get reconnected until bill settled. So can live in the house without legal obligations to TNB if one install solar and just run on solar and genset. But not many can do that lah.

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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:10 PM)
Whoever has the need to use the house eventually have to bear the cost of reconnection. Legally the fee is owed by previous owner/tenant, but TNB cut the power just the same and won't reconnect until the debt is settled. So the new owner cannot wait forever so eventually is forced to pay.

If someone knows a trick that can convince TNB to reconnect the meter without clearing the past debt due to debt not owed by new owner, please share here. Asking for a friend. tongue.gif
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But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit.
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:21 PM

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really madafaker type one. before i have my own house, i oso rent house. before handing over key to owner i pay all bills. check apa barang rosak di rumah and get them all repaired.
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:12 PM)
From past experiences, TNB will not cut the meter even when the debt exceed deposit. Why TNB is willing to do that, don't know. But that is what happens out there and that's why you keep seeing TNB debts in thousands or tens of thousands.
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seriously, TNB just pemalas makan gaji buta......they just refuse to take any legal action on the owner who hutang bill, instead they will expect new owner to settle hutang which is easier n less hassle for TNB
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Duduk free + tak nak bayar bill. Totally sampah penyewa.
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jan 7 2024, 02:15 PM)
But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit.
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Got a friend last time won lelong house and later found out bill shock of unpaid TNB bill which he was forced to bear. Coupled with other issues, he gave up on the house and prior payment all forfeited. So it will be nice to know how to convince TNB change owner means no longer need to pay the past bill if wanna reconnect the meter.

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Macam ni saya pun tak nak bayar. Guna sampai mati pun boleh.
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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
wow! ini machiem pun ada kah
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install gate + lock
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TNB can't suspend electricity
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jan 7 2024, 02:15 PM)
But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit.
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:22 PM)
Got a friend last time won lelong house and later found out bill shock of unpaid TNB bill which he was forced to bear. Coupled with other issues, he gave up on the house and prior payment all forfeited. So it will be nice to know how to convince TNB change owner means no longer need to pay the past bill if wanna reconnect the meter.
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TNB can change name and start new account as long as you are the legal new owner.
The previous debt will always be accounted to the previous account bearer name be it ex owner or tenant name.
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:14 PM)
Owner not legally liable for the bill. But won't get TNB service since meter already cut and won't get reconnected until bill settled. So can live in the house without legal obligations to TNB if one install solar and just run on solar and genset. But not many can do that lah.
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then still the same,.. owner still liable,.. else can't even rent out or sendiri use the premise without electric,.. so change to tenant name or remain owner name,.. still the same consequences,..
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 02:31 PM)
TNB can change name and start new account as long as you are the legal new owner.
The previous debt will always be accounted to the previous account bearer name be it ex owner or tenant name.
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boss, those who bought lelong house, if previous owner got maintenance bill arrears, new owner need to settle also right?
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..
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This. That why all my rumah sewa bill under tenant. Not my name.
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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection?
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Tnb don't care
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Jan 7 2024, 02:33 PM)
This. That why all my rumah sewa bill under tenant. Not my name.
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according to some,.. if tenant lari,.. the bill still under the address,.. so won't connect back the power supply,... until the bill is settle,.. so as the owner,.. u bayar or not ??.. if u not bayar cannot rent to other tenant,.. cos new tenant won't get electric even register as new account to your address,..,..
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 02:33 PM)
boss, those who bought lelong house, if previous owner got maintenance bill arrears, new owner need to settle also right?
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Maintenance fees, cukai taksiran, etc will always tied down to the unit number.
Need to pay/settle.

Refer the POS. most banks cover this up until the auction date. but is pay first and claim back process.
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QUOTE(watzisname @ Jan 7 2024, 02:00 PM)
This is why i don't like to rent to tenants

I had multiple tenants don't pay or don't pay the whole amount

Yes, I know you are supposed to change TNB to tenant's name when u rent. But it's still a hassle dealing with tenants

Some older houses have their meter inside the house, so officer can't intrude to cut supply if no one at home. Normally tenant will just ignore and hide inside house if they see TNB officer
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just don't rent to low income people and you should be fine. up your rent
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..
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That in theory though…….in practice? Willl tnb end up asking new owner to pay?
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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection?
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Police will say must need court order 1st.

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Nasib baiklah tnb boleh waive kalau rumah lelong. Kalau tak menderita juga 🥲


Gais, anyone know how to do this or have experience before?
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 02:40 PM)
according to some,.. if tenant lari,.. the bill still under the address,.. so won't connect back the power supply,... until the bill is settle,.. so as the owner,.. u bayar or not ??.. if u not bayar cannot rent to other tenant,.. cos new tenant won't get electric even register as new account to your address,..,..
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If TNB refuse, you can file a court case to compel TNB to supply electricity to your premise.
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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection?
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Without gated guarded also wont cut lah
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jan 7 2024, 03:15 PM)
If TNB refuse, you can file a court case to compel TNB to supply electricity to your premise.
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unless you are a lawyer yourselves, the loyar fees probably more or less than the bill dispute

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jan 7 2024, 03:15 PM)
Without gated guarded also wont cut lah
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that's why new house meter now outside the compound

senang mau potong

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post Jan 7 2024, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jan 7 2024, 03:15 PM)
If TNB refuse, you can file a court case to compel TNB to supply electricity to your premise.
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how much the legal fees ??.. how long the court proceeding will take ??...
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:14 PM)

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So nice. Tnb pls let me owe until I pass away
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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Jan 7 2024, 02:22 PM)
seriously, TNB just pemalas makan gaji buta......they just refuse to take any legal action on the owner who hutang bill, instead they will expect new owner to settle hutang which is easier n less hassle for TNB
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U know why? Easy job. Less hassle to sue the previous owner or tenant.
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TNB should put the defaulter name into ccris , many debt problems will be solved
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QUOTE(WhiskeyTango777 @ Jan 7 2024, 04:36 PM)
that's why must avoid.....ohhhwaiii  laugh.gif


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so...........................................................................who can rent to them? brows.gif
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so generous ? but then again it could be accumulated long long long long long long time ago like those 1970s.



so many unanswered story, haiz, unfair world
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Tnb smart meter isn't smart enough after all
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i dont understand. if my property didnt pay tnb for 2 months. they come and cut already
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM)
Cannot. 
Bill need to be settle on that house first  .  Before any further  tnb connection.   So owner must settle the bill.
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If the account is under the previous owner's name and the electric bill has been disconnected. One can have a new account open and a new meter replaced. TNB will go after the original account holder. I know because I was a previous owner who sold 1 office lot but did not terminate the account. The new owner rented it to the mamak store and at 5K I had it disconnected but still did not terminate thinking that the Mamak store would pay before I closed the account. Guess what it was secretly reconnected, years later I received a court writ, I had to pay RM15K to TNB. The account was already terminated and the current tenant is using a different account.

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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jan 7 2024, 05:16 PM)
If the account is under the previous owner's name and the electric bill has been disconnected. One can have a new account open and a new meter replaced. TNB will go after the original account holder. I know because I was a previous owner who sold 1 office lot but did not terminate the account. The new owner rented it to the mamak store and at 5K I had it disconnected but still did not terminate thinking that the Mamak store would pay before I closed the account. Guess what it was secretly reconnected, years later I received a court writ, I had to pay RM15K to TNB. The account was already terminated and the current tenant is using a different account.
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Tak faham

1) disconnect at 5k
2) mamak secretly reconnect and use 10k?
3) tnb chase u for 15k
4) new owner no impact since mamak already reconnect

Like this?
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dat is the risk of buying lelonged property

it is like open a box of expired cheese
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P1: Anda sudah potong?
TNB: 21k saja, buat apa nak potong..
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QUOTE(Efalex @ Jan 7 2024, 05:43 PM)
P1: Anda sudah potong?
TNB: 21k saja, buat apa nak potong..
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TNB memang sudah potong

that joker go and reconnect back and use it free ja brows.gif

edit: look like never being disconnected due the compound always locked

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dat is the risk of buying lelonged property

it is like open a box of expired cheese
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TNB memang sudah potong

that joker go and reconnect back and use it free ja  brows.gif
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Illegally reconnect back, bill continue to run and TNB just let it?
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Aik....tnb bukan selalu.potong.ke kalau tuan rumah tak bayar bill
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TNB more lenient after PKP
They will not cut off tge electricity, eventhough house owner requested it
And they not even come to check. Just warning in the bills
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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jan 7 2024, 05:16 PM)
If the account is under the previous owner's name and the electric bill has been disconnected. One can have a new account open and a new meter replaced. TNB will go after the original account holder. I know because I was a previous owner who sold 1 office lot but did not terminate the account. The new owner rented it to the mamak store and at 5K I had it disconnected but still did not terminate thinking that the Mamak store would pay before I closed the account. Guess what it was secretly reconnected, years later I received a court writ, I had to pay RM15K to TNB. The account was already terminated and the current tenant is using a different account.
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Something wrong here. Renter cannot easily apply TNB account/meter
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Any property to avoid is former show unit or sales gallery.

My mech bought a formal show unit complete with furnishings and furniture for slightly below the market price. Everything went well including the title transfer.

However, about a year later, he kena slapped with a TNB letter stating the meter was illegally modified and had to pay 11k. The seller denied any mods and since everything already transferred to him, it was no longer their responsibility.

Ended up he had to pay TNB for no mistake of his. Fair or not?
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QUOTE(Efalex @ Jan 7 2024, 05:48 PM)
Illegally reconnect back, bill continue to run and TNB just let it?
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Should get MACC check, normally if electric theft TNB should report police since breaking the law. How can let the problem continue.
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i ask some auction specialist liao,... utility bills should be bear by the bidder,.. if u wan TNB waive it,.. u must engage lawyer to do that,... so for those who bidding in auction,.. it's your own homework to check on utility bills b4 bidding,..
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This kind of thread must start racing if not incomplete.
We all know what race of people does it
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damn... rent free and utilities free! No wonder the tenant willing to move without much fuss.

But for condo/apartment, remember to check the management fee too. I see some owe manamgent fee up to 50k and got lelong'ed.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM)
Owner or tenant still the same. The billing is tied to the premise address and lot number.

That's why don't simply buy lelong properties as it may came with bill shock surprises.

I know someone who bought a condo unit in the lelong market received a bill shock of over 50k in MC maintenance bills.
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TNB is managed by jokers … too many leakages … if managed by proper team, their share price will profit will skyrocket …
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monopoly business also can manage until like this, really genius
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tnb canot cut suppoly from their end? i din know this
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But the account is for the previous owner not for the new owner. So whoever owns the house just has to pay?
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jan 7 2024, 06:31 PM)
Didn't you read ?
Lelong rumah TnB give chance....no need pay.
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actually it is waiver, need to apply and see their mood
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:29 PM)
then current new law that tenant can registered under their name,.. if tenant lari,.. owner also cannot sambung balik ??..
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yes, only thing is that TNB is not up your ass to claw back the amount due but the address is blacklisted until the bill is settled. Even if you could ask TNB to waive the amount due because its a lelong unit but its not a guaranteed that TNB will waive it.

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 05:59 PM)
Any property to avoid is former show unit or sales gallery.

My mech bought a formal show unit complete with furnishings and furniture for slightly below the market price. Everything went well including the title transfer.

However, about a year later, he kena slapped with a TNB letter stating the meter was illegally modified and had to pay 11k. The seller denied any mods and since everything already transferred to him, it was no longer their responsibility.

Ended up he had to pay TNB for no mistake of his. Fair or not?
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that’s why when before u do title transfer, get tnb engineer to check the meter. if it is modified then get the lawyer to settle with previous owner.
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QUOTE(sunami @ Jan 7 2024, 04:49 PM)
so...........................................................................who can rent to them?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Jan 7 2024, 01:38 PM)
so kira tak halal la for the penyewa but as per nasiputih, bumi ini milik siapa
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imposibru that tnb waive the 21K for rumah lelong. likely the 21K is paid from the lelong funds?

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jan 7 2024, 06:18 PM)
damn... rent free and utilities free! No wonder the tenant willing to move without much fuss.

But for condo/apartment, remember to check the management fee too. I see some owe manamgent fee up to 50k and got lelong'ed.
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 7 2024, 06:52 PM)
yes, only thing is that TNB is not up your ass to claw back the amount due but the address is blacklisted until the bill is settled. Even if you could ask TNB to waive the amount due because its a lelong unit but its not a guaranteed that TNB will waive it.
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this is more likely the case. case to case basis I think.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 07:43 PM)
this is more likely the case. case to case basis I think.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 7 2024, 06:37 PM)
actually it is waiver, need to apply and see their mood
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 7 2024, 06:52 PM)
yes, only thing is that TNB is not up your ass to claw back the amount due but the address is blacklisted until the bill is settled. Even if you could ask TNB to waive the amount due because its a lelong unit but its not a guaranteed that TNB will waive it.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 07:43 PM)
this is more likely the case. case to case basis I think.
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It is not waiver. But outstanding will be under the defaulter name. TNB will chase the defaulter.
For TNB, outstanding is not tied to the unit address but tied to the account holder.
New owner no not need to pay this.

Just apply and open a new account.

That is also why TNB encourages those renting out units to register TNB account under the tenant name.


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TNB hopefully now follow owner not property address
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 08:00 PM)
It is not waiver. But outstanding will be under the defaulter name. TNB will chase the defaulter.
For TNB, outstanding is not tied to the unit address but tied to the account holder.
New owner no not need to pay this.

Just apply and open a new account.

That is also why TNB encourages those renting out units to register TNB account under the tenant name.
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Yup this is the correct answer, if you familiar with lelong trick is just to open a new account, no need to bear old owner hutang. The old owner name will be blacklisted until he clear the debt.
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some say this could be bitcoin mining, how come authority didnt detect, something very wrong, tnb sleeping ? cannot remote check the meter ? how technology so backward in malaysia ? hahahahahaha
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 09:00 PM)
It is not waiver. But outstanding will be under the defaulter name. TNB will chase the defaulter.
For TNB, outstanding is not tied to the unit address but tied to the account holder.
New owner no not need to pay this.

Just apply and open a new account.

That is also why TNB encourages those renting out units to register TNB account under the tenant name.
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If not mistaken if you can show TNB you are new owner (SnP), they can do transfer of meter to new account.

The old account will still be kept showing default but the meter can repair to new account.


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TNB distribution system not so good, cannot isolate each house and terminate
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why tnb too lazy to cut electricity?
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Why can transfer name if there are outstanding arrears?
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jan 8 2024, 08:04 AM)
Why can transfer name if there are outstanding arrears?
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Unlike condo that lawyer will get release form from management office, house i think not a mandatory step.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..
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They will... In the meantime they will not make a new connection to that address until the case is settled.
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https://www.tnb.com.my/announcements/perfor...ndlords-rights/

03/02/2021
Landlords are advised to transfer the registered account holder’s name to their tenant’s name so that the latter will be fully responsible for any charges due.

By submitting the Change of Tenancy form, landlords can avert the problem of tenants who leave large unpaid electricity bills upon vacating the rented property.

Changing the registered account holder’s name is simple. Property owners can do it online via myTNB portal or app (most preferred during the pandemic) or at the nearest Kedai Tenaga.

The steps to perform Change of Tenancy, including the supporting documents needed and related fees, are available on myTNB.

Landlords can repeat the same process to change the account holder’s name to a new tenant’s or back to their own name if they decide to stop renting.

If landlords do not wish to change the tenancy, they can still monitor the tenant’s monthly usage and payment patterns by adding the rented property in their myTNB app.


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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 05:59 PM)
Any property to avoid is former show unit or sales gallery.

My mech bought a formal show unit complete with furnishings and furniture for slightly below the market price. Everything went well including the title transfer.

However, about a year later, he kena slapped with a TNB letter stating the meter was illegally modified and had to pay 11k. The seller denied any mods and since everything already transferred to him, it was no longer their responsibility.

Ended up he had to pay TNB for no mistake of his. Fair or not?
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ASK TNB to check if not sure..... go nego for discount, bring proff he recently bought it, he probably untung pay less liao as TnB claw back the balance base on estimate calculated usage.
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 7 2024, 08:03 PM)
TNB hopefully now follow owner not property address
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Jan 8 2024, 08:59 AM)
https://www.tnb.com.my/announcements/perfor...ndlords-rights/

03/02/2021
Landlords are advised to transfer the registered account holder’s name to their tenant’s name so that the latter will be fully responsible for any charges due.

By submitting the Change of Tenancy form, landlords can avert the problem of tenants who leave large unpaid electricity bills upon vacating the rented property.

Changing the registered account holder’s name is simple. Property owners can do it online via myTNB portal or app (most preferred during the pandemic) or at the nearest Kedai Tenaga.

The steps to perform Change of Tenancy, including the supporting documents needed and related fees, are available on myTNB.

Landlords can repeat the same process to change the account holder’s name to a new tenant’s or back to their own name if they decide to stop renting.

If landlords do not wish to change the tenancy, they can still monitor the tenant’s monthly usage and payment patterns by adding the rented property in their myTNB app.
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Meaning i can simply get any "tenant" to register account then dont pay until get electric cut, rinse and repeat?
So i can get free electricity for life?
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Kalau ada org and a business, they will potong, because that's the gangster way. If nobody inconvenienced, they will let it run, and let charges accumulate, because that's the gangster way.
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I have no pity of property owners that bought many properties and end up can't afford to pay monthly instalment and pay the maintenance fees.

Let them rot. Why should we care for this type of people.

Another thing about the renter. No shame at all living free and also didn't pay any electricity bill. Banyak perangai orang macam ni.


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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 08:00 PM)
It is not waiver. But outstanding will be under the defaulter name. TNB will chase the defaulter.
For TNB, outstanding is not tied to the unit address but tied to the account holder.
New owner no not need to pay this.

Just apply and open a new account.

That is also why TNB encourages those renting out units to register TNB account under the tenant name.
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Not really.

I changed name from my dad to my name. I have to settle any outstanding bill before they allow change name, although the property already transferred to my name.


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id skipped the payment invest in off grid solar.
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By right the new owner doesn't take over the bill. He/she would have to apply for a new account and connection to that house.
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 8 2024, 09:22 AM)
Not really.

I changed name from my dad to my name. I have to settle any outstanding bill before they allow change name, although the property already transferred to my name.
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Ur case is under change name to "next of kin" lar, u need to tick this option when submitting to TNB.... alsou will need to provide the death cert etc..... did u really apply it urself ahh?

If ur case is renting to tenant, then u tick that option in the form, then need to provide rental agreement, etc.....

If ur a new owner, then tick that option in the form, then provide S&P agreement etc....
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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Jan 8 2024, 09:40 AM)
Ur case is under change name to "next of kin" lar, u need to tick this option when submitting to TNB.... alsou will need to provide the death cert etc..... did u really apply it urself ahh?

If ur case is renting to tenant, then u tick that option in the form, then need to provide rental agreement, etc.....

If ur a new owner, then tick that option in the form, then provide S&P agreement etc....
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No auch thing as "next of kin" lel
Its closing account and opening account.


Anyway just for debate, if ayam pay foreigner to "rent" my property and register under their name and dont make payment, i can virtually get free electricity?
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QUOTE(vin6 @ Jan 8 2024, 09:24 AM)
id skipped the payment invest in off grid solar.
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Brilliant!

U seems to be very smart.

Though not sure if solar power can stored for night and also rainy day.
Would though the solar panel supply is limited and need TNB power to top up the short fall when ever solar power is less than demand.
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Jan 8 2024, 10:25 AM)
Brilliant!

U seems to be very smart.

Though not sure if solar power can stored for night and also rainy day.
Would though the solar panel supply is limited and need TNB power to top up the short fall when ever solar power is less than demand.
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And also get Genset for backup incase of severe bad weather like 2-3 days of rain.
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 8 2024, 09:58 AM)
No auch thing as "next of kin" lel
Its closing account and opening account.
Anyway just for debate, if ayam pay foreigner to "rent" my property and register under their name and dont make payment, i can virtually get free electricity?
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Mine application got .... "demised and name transfer"..... need to provide death cert. I did it in TNB branch, Jln Timur, PJ.
Closing acc and Open acc is generic ..... need to explain ur situation to TNB lar...
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post Jan 8 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Jan 8 2024, 11:00 AM)
Mine application got .... "demised and name transfer"..... need to provide death cert. I did it in TNB branch, Jln Timur, PJ.
Closing acc and Open acc is generic ..... need to explain ur situation to TNB lar...
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Didnt look at what stated, but my point is if u dont clear the bill they wont allow change name or reconnection if disconnected.

As many ppl also shared online they cant reconnect because tnb just wont unless u (or tenant) clear the bill
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post Jan 11 2024, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jan 7 2024, 05:35 PM)
Tak faham

1) disconnect at 5k
2) mamak secretly reconnect and use 10k?
3) tnb chase u for 15k
4) new owner no impact since mamak already reconnect

Like this?
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Yes, I had it disconnect at 5K (I have the disconnection form with me)
I think the Mamak store bribed and got it reconnected.
Then it got disconnected at 15K, TNB chasing me but I moved office so it went court case when they finally got to my new home address with the court writ.
I checked with the management they are now using a new meter account. and my account was terminated and TNB took the account holder to court which is me.
I checked with a few lawyers and was told that the TNB always wins because I am the account owner.

I was lazy (expensive lesson learned), and always made sure we terminated all accounts when we moved or sold any property. During the meeting with TNB, I explained that I had already sold the properties to the TNB lawyer but was told it did not matter as the accounts holder would always be responsible.

Now I always make sure the properties that I rented out I will make sure the new tenant opens a new account under their name. Easy to do with just the tenancy agreement and when the tenant moves out, I just go to TNB and have it change the TNB account to my name. As long as the account is under the tenant's name one should not have a problem. We always read about TNB not willing to open an account for the new tenant is because the current owner has outstanding and he wants to open a new account for the tenant. Then of course it is not possible because he as the current owner has outstanding so cannot open a new account.

Hope you get what I am trying to explain.



 

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