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Auctioned house has RM 21K unpaid TNB bill
Auctioned house has RM 21K unpaid TNB bill
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wow! ini machiem pun ada kah
QUOTE tnb tak potong sebab gate sentiasa berkunci bila datang rumah ni. Mereka tak ada hak untuk menceroboh rumah tanpa consent daripada pemilik berdaftar. Dah cuba call pemilik tapi tak pernah berangkat. |
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Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection? SYAMiLLiON, dwks, and 7 others liked this post
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Tnb will waive?
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if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..
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Aik.. why tnb so generous one? Normally will cut after exceed depo..
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stupid TNB did not cut the power even the money owned is more than the security deposit
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM) if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,.. dude you do know that if TNB did not get the chase the account owner they will just cut the power and then will not reconnect unless the old bill is settled even you're the new owner of the unit. If everyone does that TNB could go bust yunxiangsgh liked this post
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:23 PM) dude you do know that if TNB did not get the chase the account owner they will just cut the power and then will not reconnect unless the old bill is settled even you're the new owner of the unit. If everyone does that TNB could go bust then current new law that tenant can registered under their name,.. if tenant lari,.. owner also cannot sambung balik ??.. |
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Jan 7 2024, 01:30 PM
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macam cool story je, TNB will potong and that new unit can't register new meter until owner settle the bill le
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:29 PM) then current new law that tenant can registered under their name,.. if tenant lari,.. owner also cannot sambung balik ??.. The hutang will follow name. But tnb will cut that house power, until huang cleared baru sambung balik This post has been edited by Ayambetul: Jan 7 2024, 01:33 PM |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM) if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,.. Owner or tenant still the same. The billing is tied to the premise address and lot number. That's why don't simply buy lelong properties as it may came with bill shock surprises. I know someone who bought a condo unit in the lelong market received a bill shock of over 50k in MC maintenance bills. yunxiangsgh, dwks, and 5 others liked this post
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so kira tak halal la for the penyewa but as per nasiputih, bumi ini milik siapa nasiputih liked this post
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:23 PM) dude you do know that if TNB did not get the chase the account owner they will just cut the power and then will not reconnect unless the old bill is settled even you're the new owner of the unit. If everyone does that TNB could go bust bro ,.. just read the story inside,.. it said TNB will waive it,.. |
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Jan 7 2024, 01:39 PM
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TNB frontdesk already said the same thing. Owner or tenant still the same status. If got outstanding, either party just settle first then only can resume connection.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM) Owner or tenant still the same. The billing is tied to the premise address and lot number. That's why don't simply buy lelong properties as it may came with bill shock surprises. I know someone who bought a condo unit in the lelong market received a bill shock of over 50k in MC maintenance bills. QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM) Cannot. then those register the TNB account under the tenants name is just a gimmick ???.. owner still liable to the bill ??.... might as well owner skip that process and take higher utility deposits,..Bill need to be settle on that house first . Before any further tnb connection. So owner must settle the bill. |
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21k?....sebulan crypto mining pun cukup....
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM) Owner or tenant still the same. The billing is tied to the premise address and lot number. THISThat's why don't simply buy lelong properties as it may came with bill shock surprises. I know someone who bought a condo unit in the lelong market received a bill shock of over 50k in MC maintenance bills. one need to do basic checking at JMB office otherwise surprise pikachu lah what else |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 01:44 PM) yeah but in this case, since new owner win the bid, TNB will waive for premise only. old owner still owe TNB 21K, still need to pay, old owner couldn't make any new connection untik 21K settled. |
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QUOTE(mi-g @ Jan 7 2024, 01:47 PM) yeah but in this case, since new owner win the bid, TNB will waive for premise only. old owner still owe TNB 21K, still need to pay, old owner couldn't make any new connection untik 21K settled. as far as I can rememberno reconnection will be made UNTIL the previous hutang locked on the premise settled dunno if they change to rules now This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jan 7 2024, 01:49 PM |
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21k and TNB never bother to check, chase, or cut them off...
Owaiii... msia level of efficiency, expected LAAAA |
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Jan 7 2024, 01:49 PM) 21k and TNB never bother to check, chase, or cut them off... most probably on the last few months , tenants sudah tau time sudah sampai kana kick out he go blast ac 24/7Owaiii... msia level of efficiency, expected LAAAA I know tnb dem efficient if u didnt pay for 3 months sure red letter mari example ![]() This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jan 7 2024, 01:52 PM |
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Previous owner kena settled. Not new buyer.
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QUOTE(cubiclecarbonate @ Jan 7 2024, 01:51 PM) Lelong properties usual the owner already bankrupt, so impossible to settle. Sue also useless, also cannot settle. cubiclecarbonate liked this post
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I believe the guy bought a terrace house. Probably low cost unit.
Like in USA those USD 1 houses. It is big and you have yard and all that. But then it comes with city fees/ tax that costs a lot. Japan too has those free to cheap houses also. But here the cost to transport things and renovate is very expensive. again taxes is another matter. |
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This is why i don't like to rent to tenants
I had multiple tenants don't pay or don't pay the whole amount Yes, I know you are supposed to change TNB to tenant's name when u rent. But it's still a hassle dealing with tenants Some older houses have their meter inside the house, so officer can't intrude to cut supply if no one at home. Normally tenant will just ignore and hide inside house if they see TNB officer |
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:54 PM) Lelong properties usual the owner already bankrupt, so impossible to settle. Sue also useless, also cannot settle. I have a friend that lost his family home this way also. I did not know that their house was funded by his late mothers pension. Later she died due to kidney failure. And the house is no longer financed. I think their kids all have their own homes and family and decide not to help keep the house. End up kena lelong. |
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wah, tunggakan 21k tnb not potong karan ka?
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TNB is managed by jokers … too many leakages … if managed by proper team, their share price will profit will skyrocket …
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Whoever has the need to use the house eventually have to bear the cost of reconnection. Legally the fee is owed by previous owner/tenant, but TNB cut the power just the same and won't reconnect until the debt is settled. So the new owner cannot wait forever so eventually is forced to pay.
If someone knows a trick that can convince TNB to reconnect the meter without clearing the past debt due to debt not owed by new owner, please share here. Asking for a friend. |
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QUOTE(sprix @ Jan 7 2024, 01:21 PM) From past experiences, TNB will not cut the meter even when the debt exceed deposit. Why TNB is willing to do that, don't know. But that is what happens out there and that's why you keep seeing TNB debts in thousands or tens of thousands. |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:41 PM) then those register the TNB account under the tenants name is just a gimmick ???.. owner still liable to the bill ??.... might as well owner skip that process and take higher utility deposits,.. Owner not legally liable for the bill. But won't get TNB service since meter already cut and won't get reconnected until bill settled. So can live in the house without legal obligations to TNB if one install solar and just run on solar and genset. But not many can do that lah. |
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:10 PM) Whoever has the need to use the house eventually have to bear the cost of reconnection. Legally the fee is owed by previous owner/tenant, but TNB cut the power just the same and won't reconnect until the debt is settled. So the new owner cannot wait forever so eventually is forced to pay. But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit.If someone knows a trick that can convince TNB to reconnect the meter without clearing the past debt due to debt not owed by new owner, please share here. Asking for a friend. loserguy liked this post
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really madafaker type one. before i have my own house, i oso rent house. before handing over key to owner i pay all bills. check apa barang rosak di rumah and get them all repaired. nelson969 liked this post
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:12 PM) From past experiences, TNB will not cut the meter even when the debt exceed deposit. Why TNB is willing to do that, don't know. But that is what happens out there and that's why you keep seeing TNB debts in thousands or tens of thousands. seriously, TNB just pemalas makan gaji buta......they just refuse to take any legal action on the owner who hutang bill, instead they will expect new owner to settle hutang which is easier n less hassle for TNB |
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Duduk free + tak nak bayar bill. Totally sampah penyewa.
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jan 7 2024, 02:15 PM) But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit. Got a friend last time won lelong house and later found out bill shock of unpaid TNB bill which he was forced to bear. Coupled with other issues, he gave up on the house and prior payment all forfeited. So it will be nice to know how to convince TNB change owner means no longer need to pay the past bill if wanna reconnect the meter. loserguy liked this post
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Macam ni saya pun tak nak bayar. Guna sampai mati pun boleh.
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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM) install gate + lockdon't pay TNB bill TNB can't suspend electricity ???? PROFIT nelson969 and xtreme_paranoid liked this post
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jan 7 2024, 02:15 PM) But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit. QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:22 PM) Got a friend last time won lelong house and later found out bill shock of unpaid TNB bill which he was forced to bear. Coupled with other issues, he gave up on the house and prior payment all forfeited. So it will be nice to know how to convince TNB change owner means no longer need to pay the past bill if wanna reconnect the meter. TNB can change name and start new account as long as you are the legal new owner. The previous debt will always be accounted to the previous account bearer name be it ex owner or tenant name. |
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:14 PM) Owner not legally liable for the bill. But won't get TNB service since meter already cut and won't get reconnected until bill settled. So can live in the house without legal obligations to TNB if one install solar and just run on solar and genset. But not many can do that lah. then still the same,.. owner still liable,.. else can't even rent out or sendiri use the premise without electric,.. so change to tenant name or remain owner name,.. still the same consequences,.. |
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 02:31 PM) TNB can change name and start new account as long as you are the legal new owner. boss, those who bought lelong house, if previous owner got maintenance bill arrears, new owner need to settle also right?The previous debt will always be accounted to the previous account bearer name be it ex owner or tenant name. |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM) if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,.. This. That why all my rumah sewa bill under tenant. Not my name. |
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Jan 7 2024, 02:33 PM) according to some,.. if tenant lari,.. the bill still under the address,.. so won't connect back the power supply,... until the bill is settle,.. so as the owner,.. u bayar or not ??.. if u not bayar cannot rent to other tenant,.. cos new tenant won't get electric even register as new account to your address,..,.. xtreme_paranoid liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 02:33 PM) boss, those who bought lelong house, if previous owner got maintenance bill arrears, new owner need to settle also right? Maintenance fees, cukai taksiran, etc will always tied down to the unit number. Need to pay/settle. Refer the POS. most banks cover this up until the auction date. but is pay first and claim back process. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(watzisname @ Jan 7 2024, 02:00 PM) This is why i don't like to rent to tenants just don't rent to low income people and you should be fine. up your rentI had multiple tenants don't pay or don't pay the whole amount Yes, I know you are supposed to change TNB to tenant's name when u rent. But it's still a hassle dealing with tenants Some older houses have their meter inside the house, so officer can't intrude to cut supply if no one at home. Normally tenant will just ignore and hide inside house if they see TNB officer |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM) if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,.. That in theory though…….in practice? Willl tnb end up asking new owner to pay? |
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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM) Police will say must need court order 1st. nelson969 and xtreme_paranoid liked this post
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QUOTE Nasib baiklah tnb boleh waive kalau rumah lelong. Kalau tak menderita juga 🥲 Gais, anyone know how to do this or have experience before? |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 02:40 PM) according to some,.. if tenant lari,.. the bill still under the address,.. so won't connect back the power supply,... until the bill is settle,.. so as the owner,.. u bayar or not ??.. if u not bayar cannot rent to other tenant,.. cos new tenant won't get electric even register as new account to your address,..,.. If TNB refuse, you can file a court case to compel TNB to supply electricity to your premise. |
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Jan 7 2024, 03:38 PM
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So nice. Tnb pls let me owe until I pass away
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Jan 7 2024, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Jan 7 2024, 02:22 PM) seriously, TNB just pemalas makan gaji buta......they just refuse to take any legal action on the owner who hutang bill, instead they will expect new owner to settle hutang which is easier n less hassle for TNB U know why? Easy job. Less hassle to sue the previous owner or tenant. |
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Jan 7 2024, 04:45 PM
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TNB should put the defaulter name into ccris , many debt problems will be solved
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Jan 7 2024, 04:49 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 04:58 PM
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so generous ? but then again it could be accumulated long long long long long long time ago like those 1970s.
so many unanswered story, haiz, unfair world |
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Jan 7 2024, 05:02 PM
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Tnb smart meter isn't smart enough after all
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Jan 7 2024, 05:16 PM
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i dont understand. if my property didnt pay tnb for 2 months. they come and cut already nelson969 liked this post
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Jan 7 2024, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM) Cannot. If the account is under the previous owner's name and the electric bill has been disconnected. One can have a new account open and a new meter replaced. TNB will go after the original account holder. I know because I was a previous owner who sold 1 office lot but did not terminate the account. The new owner rented it to the mamak store and at 5K I had it disconnected but still did not terminate thinking that the Mamak store would pay before I closed the account. Guess what it was secretly reconnected, years later I received a court writ, I had to pay RM15K to TNB. The account was already terminated and the current tenant is using a different account.Bill need to be settle on that house first . Before any further tnb connection. So owner must settle the bill. This post has been edited by jackdon: Jan 7 2024, 05:17 PM |
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Jan 7 2024, 05:35 PM
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Edit: Sorry forgot to quote
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Jan 7 2024, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jan 7 2024, 05:16 PM) If the account is under the previous owner's name and the electric bill has been disconnected. One can have a new account open and a new meter replaced. TNB will go after the original account holder. I know because I was a previous owner who sold 1 office lot but did not terminate the account. The new owner rented it to the mamak store and at 5K I had it disconnected but still did not terminate thinking that the Mamak store would pay before I closed the account. Guess what it was secretly reconnected, years later I received a court writ, I had to pay RM15K to TNB. The account was already terminated and the current tenant is using a different account. Tak faham1) disconnect at 5k 2) mamak secretly reconnect and use 10k? 3) tnb chase u for 15k 4) new owner no impact since mamak already reconnect Like this? |
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Jan 7 2024, 05:40 PM
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dat is the risk of buying lelonged property
it is like open a box of expired cheese |
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Jan 7 2024, 05:43 PM
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P1: Anda sudah potong?
TNB: 21k saja, buat apa nak potong.. |
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Jan 7 2024, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(Efalex @ Jan 7 2024, 05:43 PM) TNB memang sudah potongthat joker go and reconnect back and use it free ja edit: look like never being disconnected due the compound always locked This post has been edited by desmond2020: Jan 7 2024, 05:51 PM |
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Jan 7 2024, 05:45 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 05:48 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 05:50 PM
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Aik....tnb bukan selalu.potong.ke kalau tuan rumah tak bayar bill
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Jan 7 2024, 05:52 PM
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TNB more lenient after PKP
They will not cut off tge electricity, eventhough house owner requested it And they not even come to check. Just warning in the bills |
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Jan 7 2024, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jan 7 2024, 05:16 PM) If the account is under the previous owner's name and the electric bill has been disconnected. One can have a new account open and a new meter replaced. TNB will go after the original account holder. I know because I was a previous owner who sold 1 office lot but did not terminate the account. The new owner rented it to the mamak store and at 5K I had it disconnected but still did not terminate thinking that the Mamak store would pay before I closed the account. Guess what it was secretly reconnected, years later I received a court writ, I had to pay RM15K to TNB. The account was already terminated and the current tenant is using a different account. Something wrong here. Renter cannot easily apply TNB account/meter |
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Jan 7 2024, 05:59 PM
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Any property to avoid is former show unit or sales gallery.
My mech bought a formal show unit complete with furnishings and furniture for slightly below the market price. Everything went well including the title transfer. However, about a year later, he kena slapped with a TNB letter stating the meter was illegally modified and had to pay 11k. The seller denied any mods and since everything already transferred to him, it was no longer their responsibility. Ended up he had to pay TNB for no mistake of his. Fair or not? |
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Jan 7 2024, 06:02 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 06:08 PM
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i ask some auction specialist liao,... utility bills should be bear by the bidder,.. if u wan TNB waive it,.. u must engage lawyer to do that,... so for those who bidding in auction,.. it's your own homework to check on utility bills b4 bidding,..
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Jan 7 2024, 06:14 PM
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This kind of thread must start racing if not incomplete.
We all know what race of people does it |
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Jan 7 2024, 06:18 PM
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damn... rent free and utilities free! No wonder the tenant willing to move without much fuss.
But for condo/apartment, remember to check the management fee too. I see some owe manamgent fee up to 50k and got lelong'ed. |
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Jan 7 2024, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 01:35 PM) Owner or tenant still the same. The billing is tied to the premise address and lot number. Didn't you read ?That's why don't simply buy lelong properties as it may came with bill shock surprises. I know someone who bought a condo unit in the lelong market received a bill shock of over 50k in MC maintenance bills. Lelong rumah TnB give chance....no need pay. |
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Jan 7 2024, 06:32 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 06:33 PM
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tnb canot cut suppoly from their end? i din know this
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Jan 7 2024, 06:34 PM
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But the account is for the previous owner not for the new owner. So whoever owns the house just has to pay?
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Jan 7 2024, 06:37 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:29 PM) then current new law that tenant can registered under their name,.. if tenant lari,.. owner also cannot sambung balik ??.. yes, only thing is that TNB is not up your ass to claw back the amount due but the address is blacklisted until the bill is settled. Even if you could ask TNB to waive the amount due because its a lelong unit but its not a guaranteed that TNB will waive it.This post has been edited by alextan99: Jan 7 2024, 06:54 PM |
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Jan 7 2024, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 05:59 PM) Any property to avoid is former show unit or sales gallery. that’s why when before u do title transfer, get tnb engineer to check the meter. if it is modified then get the lawyer to settle with previous owner.My mech bought a formal show unit complete with furnishings and furniture for slightly below the market price. Everything went well including the title transfer. However, about a year later, he kena slapped with a TNB letter stating the meter was illegally modified and had to pay 11k. The seller denied any mods and since everything already transferred to him, it was no longer their responsibility. Ended up he had to pay TNB for no mistake of his. Fair or not? |
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Jan 7 2024, 07:10 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 07:20 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 07:40 PM
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Jan 7 2024, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 7 2024, 06:52 PM) yes, only thing is that TNB is not up your ass to claw back the amount due but the address is blacklisted until the bill is settled. Even if you could ask TNB to waive the amount due because its a lelong unit but its not a guaranteed that TNB will waive it. this is more likely the case. case to case basis I think. |
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Jan 7 2024, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 07:43 PM) i think good business to offer offgrid battery backup solar panel services to these cases. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Jan 7 2024, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 7 2024, 06:37 PM) QUOTE(alextan99 @ Jan 7 2024, 06:52 PM) yes, only thing is that TNB is not up your ass to claw back the amount due but the address is blacklisted until the bill is settled. Even if you could ask TNB to waive the amount due because its a lelong unit but its not a guaranteed that TNB will waive it. QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 07:43 PM) It is not waiver. But outstanding will be under the defaulter name. TNB will chase the defaulter. For TNB, outstanding is not tied to the unit address but tied to the account holder. New owner no not need to pay this. Just apply and open a new account. That is also why TNB encourages those renting out units to register TNB account under the tenant name. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Jan 7 2024, 08:03 PM
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TNB hopefully now follow owner not property address
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Jan 7 2024, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 08:00 PM) It is not waiver. But outstanding will be under the defaulter name. TNB will chase the defaulter. Yup this is the correct answer, if you familiar with lelong trick is just to open a new account, no need to bear old owner hutang. The old owner name will be blacklisted until he clear the debt.For TNB, outstanding is not tied to the unit address but tied to the account holder. New owner no not need to pay this. Just apply and open a new account. That is also why TNB encourages those renting out units to register TNB account under the tenant name. |
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Jan 7 2024, 08:05 PM
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some say this could be bitcoin mining, how come authority didnt detect, something very wrong, tnb sleeping ? cannot remote check the meter ? how technology so backward in malaysia ? hahahahahaha
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Jan 7 2024, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 09:00 PM) It is not waiver. But outstanding will be under the defaulter name. TNB will chase the defaulter. deleted !For TNB, outstanding is not tied to the unit address but tied to the account holder. New owner no not need to pay this. Just apply and open a new account. That is also why TNB encourages those renting out units to register TNB account under the tenant name. This post has been edited by Momo33: Jan 7 2024, 08:15 PM |
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Jan 8 2024, 07:11 AM
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If not mistaken if you can show TNB you are new owner (SnP), they can do transfer of meter to new account.
The old account will still be kept showing default but the meter can repair to new account. |
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Jan 8 2024, 07:25 AM
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TNB distribution system not so good, cannot isolate each house and terminate
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Jan 8 2024, 07:31 AM
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why tnb too lazy to cut electricity?
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Jan 8 2024, 08:04 AM
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Why can transfer name if there are outstanding arrears?
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Jan 8 2024, 08:24 AM
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Jan 8 2024, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM) if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,.. They will... In the meantime they will not make a new connection to that address until the case is settled. |
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Jan 8 2024, 08:59 AM
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https://www.tnb.com.my/announcements/perfor...ndlords-rights/
03/02/2021 Landlords are advised to transfer the registered account holder’s name to their tenant’s name so that the latter will be fully responsible for any charges due. By submitting the Change of Tenancy form, landlords can avert the problem of tenants who leave large unpaid electricity bills upon vacating the rented property. Changing the registered account holder’s name is simple. Property owners can do it online via myTNB portal or app (most preferred during the pandemic) or at the nearest Kedai Tenaga. The steps to perform Change of Tenancy, including the supporting documents needed and related fees, are available on myTNB. Landlords can repeat the same process to change the account holder’s name to a new tenant’s or back to their own name if they decide to stop renting. If landlords do not wish to change the tenancy, they can still monitor the tenant’s monthly usage and payment patterns by adding the rented property in their myTNB app. |
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Jan 8 2024, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 7 2024, 05:59 PM) Any property to avoid is former show unit or sales gallery. ASK TNB to check if not sure..... go nego for discount, bring proff he recently bought it, he probably untung pay less liao as TnB claw back the balance base on estimate calculated usage.My mech bought a formal show unit complete with furnishings and furniture for slightly below the market price. Everything went well including the title transfer. However, about a year later, he kena slapped with a TNB letter stating the meter was illegally modified and had to pay 11k. The seller denied any mods and since everything already transferred to him, it was no longer their responsibility. Ended up he had to pay TNB for no mistake of his. Fair or not? |
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Jan 8 2024, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Jan 8 2024, 08:59 AM) https://www.tnb.com.my/announcements/perfor...ndlords-rights/ Meaning i can simply get any "tenant" to register account then dont pay until get electric cut, rinse and repeat?03/02/2021 Landlords are advised to transfer the registered account holder’s name to their tenant’s name so that the latter will be fully responsible for any charges due. By submitting the Change of Tenancy form, landlords can avert the problem of tenants who leave large unpaid electricity bills upon vacating the rented property. Changing the registered account holder’s name is simple. Property owners can do it online via myTNB portal or app (most preferred during the pandemic) or at the nearest Kedai Tenaga. The steps to perform Change of Tenancy, including the supporting documents needed and related fees, are available on myTNB. Landlords can repeat the same process to change the account holder’s name to a new tenant’s or back to their own name if they decide to stop renting. If landlords do not wish to change the tenancy, they can still monitor the tenant’s monthly usage and payment patterns by adding the rented property in their myTNB app. So i can get free electricity for life? |
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Jan 8 2024, 09:21 AM
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Kalau ada org and a business, they will potong, because that's the gangster way. If nobody inconvenienced, they will let it run, and let charges accumulate, because that's the gangster way.
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Jan 8 2024, 09:22 AM
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I have no pity of property owners that bought many properties and end up can't afford to pay monthly instalment and pay the maintenance fees.
Let them rot. Why should we care for this type of people. Another thing about the renter. No shame at all living free and also didn't pay any electricity bill. Banyak perangai orang macam ni. |
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 08:00 PM) It is not waiver. But outstanding will be under the defaulter name. TNB will chase the defaulter. Not really.For TNB, outstanding is not tied to the unit address but tied to the account holder. New owner no not need to pay this. Just apply and open a new account. That is also why TNB encourages those renting out units to register TNB account under the tenant name. I changed name from my dad to my name. I have to settle any outstanding bill before they allow change name, although the property already transferred to my name. |
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Jan 8 2024, 09:24 AM
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id skipped the payment invest in off grid solar.
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Jan 8 2024, 09:37 AM
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By right the new owner doesn't take over the bill. He/she would have to apply for a new account and connection to that house.
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Jan 8 2024, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 8 2024, 09:22 AM) Not really. Ur case is under change name to "next of kin" lar, u need to tick this option when submitting to TNB.... alsou will need to provide the death cert etc..... did u really apply it urself ahh?I changed name from my dad to my name. I have to settle any outstanding bill before they allow change name, although the property already transferred to my name. If ur case is renting to tenant, then u tick that option in the form, then need to provide rental agreement, etc..... If ur a new owner, then tick that option in the form, then provide S&P agreement etc.... |
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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Jan 8 2024, 09:40 AM) Ur case is under change name to "next of kin" lar, u need to tick this option when submitting to TNB.... alsou will need to provide the death cert etc..... did u really apply it urself ahh? No auch thing as "next of kin" lelIf ur case is renting to tenant, then u tick that option in the form, then need to provide rental agreement, etc..... If ur a new owner, then tick that option in the form, then provide S&P agreement etc.... Its closing account and opening account. Anyway just for debate, if ayam pay foreigner to "rent" my property and register under their name and dont make payment, i can virtually get free electricity? |
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Jan 8 2024, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(vin6 @ Jan 8 2024, 09:24 AM) Brilliant!U seems to be very smart. Though not sure if solar power can stored for night and also rainy day. Would though the solar panel supply is limited and need TNB power to top up the short fall when ever solar power is less than demand. . |
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Jan 8 2024, 10:25 AM) Brilliant! LIFEPO4 battery backup - so many choices of all in 1 inverters now days. I know many ppl doing it already. - with 20k easily can cover RM120-180 per month. U seems to be very smart. Though not sure if solar power can stored for night and also rainy day. Would though the solar panel supply is limited and need TNB power to top up the short fall when ever solar power is less than demand. . And also get Genset for backup incase of severe bad weather like 2-3 days of rain. |
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Jan 8 2024, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 8 2024, 09:58 AM) No auch thing as "next of kin" lel Mine application got .... "demised and name transfer"..... need to provide death cert. I did it in TNB branch, Jln Timur, PJ.Its closing account and opening account. Anyway just for debate, if ayam pay foreigner to "rent" my property and register under their name and dont make payment, i can virtually get free electricity? Closing acc and Open acc is generic ..... need to explain ur situation to TNB lar... |
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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Jan 8 2024, 11:00 AM) Mine application got .... "demised and name transfer"..... need to provide death cert. I did it in TNB branch, Jln Timur, PJ. Didnt look at what stated, but my point is if u dont clear the bill they wont allow change name or reconnection if disconnected.Closing acc and Open acc is generic ..... need to explain ur situation to TNB lar... As many ppl also shared online they cant reconnect because tnb just wont unless u (or tenant) clear the bill |
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jan 7 2024, 05:35 PM) Tak faham Yes, I had it disconnect at 5K (I have the disconnection form with me)1) disconnect at 5k 2) mamak secretly reconnect and use 10k? 3) tnb chase u for 15k 4) new owner no impact since mamak already reconnect Like this? I think the Mamak store bribed and got it reconnected. Then it got disconnected at 15K, TNB chasing me but I moved office so it went court case when they finally got to my new home address with the court writ. I checked with the management they are now using a new meter account. and my account was terminated and TNB took the account holder to court which is me. I checked with a few lawyers and was told that the TNB always wins because I am the account owner. I was lazy (expensive lesson learned), and always made sure we terminated all accounts when we moved or sold any property. During the meeting with TNB, I explained that I had already sold the properties to the TNB lawyer but was told it did not matter as the accounts holder would always be responsible. Now I always make sure the properties that I rented out I will make sure the new tenant opens a new account under their name. Easy to do with just the tenancy agreement and when the tenant moves out, I just go to TNB and have it change the TNB account to my name. As long as the account is under the tenant's name one should not have a problem. We always read about TNB not willing to open an account for the new tenant is because the current owner has outstanding and he wants to open a new account for the tenant. Then of course it is not possible because he as the current owner has outstanding so cannot open a new account. Hope you get what I am trying to explain. loserguy liked this post
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