Career growth with average salary or
Repetitive job with higher salary?

That depends on your needs.

Can you afford an average salary just for the sake of prospect?

Some people the priority is high salary no matter what job.
Some people job satisfaction is priority than salary.

All depends on individual. If you get lucky you get both.

High salary while waiting for better opportunity.

There is no guarantee that you will have good career growth, it really depends on many factors and those are usually not known until after you have joined the company.

Go for the obvious aka money. My 2 cents.

Depends on a few factors as well ...

If it's my case, given my age, just show me the money. I don't mind not progressing in my career.

Money... Your current pay is the easiest way to justify your value to your current company during your next employment interview. It is quantitative. No employer will constantly overpay their staff

Career growth often not guarantee, and it is subjective/descriptive.

Really so old meh

Career growth.

Same old routine gonna make you sien 99. Then also harder to get promoted and earn more.

Unless you can utilize that free time to generate another passive income channel.

This post has been edited by UserU: Jan 6 2024, 07:22 PM

It depends on your motive...

I have never once looked for a high salary job, nor a job with career growth...

What I looked for in my 20s was to build career skills...

Most people have it that they MUST be paid to learn new skills... In my opinion, that is an entirely wrong and misleading approach...

Instead, you should be equipping yourself with new skills consistently BY STUDYING on your own if you are to remain for the industry...

Next, specialize into a unique skillset that is ultra-rare in this world... I am strictly talking about something that is uncommonly found not just in Malaysia, but the whole world...

As I am part of the IT sector, I possess a rare coding skillset that is used, but often overlooked, and some 5% - 15% in this industry knows about it...

All these combined has helped me to gain jobs fairly easily compared to when I first started out...

These days, people look for me for jobs instead of me applying for them...

Another fun fact is that if you so highly valued, the more you converse with your head of department / board of director (who has the same skillset as you), they'd be shocked for their lives about the wealth of knowledge you have...

My take is that you should look to master skills first and maintain an average salary job...

Once you have mastered all there is, go for higher ones with repetition but look to move out to do something else... Because this is what I am doing at the moment... I no longer want to continue a high salary job nor for career growth. I may be wanted but I am looking to move out and to be self-employed...

if you're still young, opt for career growth. as you're nearing to your retirement, high salary should be your priority since you have mastered all the skills needed to do your job

agree on this

money u can see in ur account

career growth no gurantee

tomrorow another smarter guy might come in and there goes ur career growth

salary usually = competence

so get high celeri later come here brag

Thanks guys for your feedback

I choose career growth. My current company offer me RM 9k counter offer but i choose to leave for company that pay me RM 6k.

Current company using SAP 4.5b
Next company using SAP S4Hana

Next jump with 2-3 years experience with S4/hana i can get 5 figures salary.

Ofc higher salary better since the increment always depends on your last drawn salary especially in Malaysia and somemore higher salary means you can save more then explore to start the side business.

Believe me, you will regret it, 9k back to 6k is dumb decision. You need to get 50% increment from 6k to 9k. Think twice.

Well, I'm in my early 50's... the fire isn't burning as brightly in my belly, that's for sure!

9k to 6k is a big difference.... think twice if you haven't submitted your resignation yet.

20-30: When you just start your career (young), career growth

30-40: When you at the peak of your career, career growth & money

40-50: money only

50-60: no point focusing on a career if you still can't afford to retire, just make as much money you can

Has TS come to a decision yet? Please update us…

Yes. I choose career growth over money.

If you are 50yo with repetitive job with high salary is ok

if you are 30-45yo repetitive job high salary for that age group, then when you are above 45yo, that salary no longer fits the same high salary bracket anymore, what you going to do? If repetitive job affects your marketability within the organization and even external application growth, you have to think far into the future.

I personally see people who have repetitive "high salary" job, reached their 50s, they could not go any higher in their organization due to their repetitive job not highly valued and they been too long in their role that even external application no longer entertained by job recruiters.

Only then you should choose career growth job, because you are thinking far into the future.

the trick is not to get it wrong to think that job is a career growth job.

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Jan 25 2024, 05:30 PM

are you sure next jump can get 5 figures and not your current offered salary?

you will waste 3 years there

cash is king..ask the company to up their offer a bit

Yup, money follow skills and experience 😋

TS you looks like newbie somehow. Let's keep us posted if they offer you within the range they given or they offer you based on your last drawn salary

Sure will reply after 2-3 years 😂

Having worked with Abeam consultants before on several SAP projects, that is indeed the pay and they don't care what your last drawn salary is because they can charge the client even more. The only clause is that you will be on contract employment.

How many years of experiences can get 1k/day rate sir
?

It is not about years of experience these days, it is about skillset. Most of the time the ones at that high rates are usually the experts in the modules within SAP, e.g. FICO, PM, WM, SD, etc..etc.. They need to know not only the ins and outs of SAP but also know how to translate the client's request into actual changes. This means knowing the client's industry and business as well as knowing how a certain industry perform a certain process and task.

How come no one talks abt with strong cable ah?

Money follows previous salary and position...

Skills and experience are BULLSHIT nowadays... you can be the dumbest person the your group but still earn better than the smartest person...

My last 2 company dont ask salary payslip when I apply new role there… They only ask what is your expected salary… i can ask whatever i want based on my skills, experience and market rate…

What industry are you in?? Because that is VERY VERY VERY RARE....

In financial field... no matter if it is in Malaysia or any parts of the world... they will ask for salary.... if you don't disclose.... the interview automatically stops there and then...

Same goes for accounting... FMCG....

In fact... I have not heard of any industry or company that doesn't ask for salary slip apart from part time jobs or extremely low level non technical job like sales or commission based non professional jobs..

SAP…

Good companies are moving away from asking for current salary information during the job application process to promote fair pay practices. This helps prevent perpetuating wage gaps and ensures that candidates are evaluated based on their skills and the value they bring to the position rather than their past earnings.

How I wish that was true...

I know in certain states in US are practicing that as they have laws in place to prohibit the employer to do so.... largely also because of DEI reasons...

however.... everywhere else... especially Asia still demand for salary history or they just won't proceed....


Imagine if your industry has 10 companies and all 10 are asking for salary slip.... if you don't disclose then you might as well just stay put...

Medical industry concerns itself more with skillsets rather than salary.

My current company never asked me to provide my payslip during the offer stage (was asked about my last drawn salary and expected salary during the HR pre-screening call), managed to get the expected salary I asked for (which was almost 50% above my last drawn salary😂)

The HR was also nice enough to tell me the salary range during the call, which was unexpected (most HRs from other MNCs I’ve interviewed with were reluctant to disclose them when asked)

wise words...

foregoing 9k for 6k.... TS I hope your gamble pays off really

My pov is this. Few points, it depends on your age, salary difference, and career goal. Salary difference if 1 role is RM5000 and another is RM10000 then you need to see whether you want the money or a role you enjoy. Age plays a part in this too, in my opinion, when you are young you can afford to take risk and do something you like, you never know where it will take you.

For me i would like to have a balance. I was in a similar situation as well but learnt it the hard way. I had 2 offers, 1 was a role i liked and another way a higher pay. Logically i took the higher pay job, but when i was there i wasnt happy at all, i end up leaving not too long and persue what i liked. Idk what was your salary difference but mine was a difference of 1.5k. Maybe to some its not that much. But its still something.

So... follow your heart, we will be working more of our waking hours, do what you enjoy.

I also have changed my career to SAP consulting. what I saw working in SAP are :
- can focus only in one system (SAP)
- you can jump to other company that require SAP consultant
- most of big company nowadays using SAP and they are migrating from ECC to S4HANA
- you can carry your business process understanding at previous company to new company and able to catchup new process fast

I am still newbie in SAP. before this I'm working as BA and testers
Hope i can survive haha

This post has been edited by ameenbp94: Apr 4 2024, 11:15 AM

How to shift to SAP or oracle?
Could you mind to share?
fyi, I am SAP user or oracle user.

as i know if you SAP user you can change to consultants role. what i done is, i applied any SAP position for junior role at Linkedin. Need to update your CV on the key SAP process and which module you used. Also make sure to adjust the points in your CV with the job role you applied. HR/recruiters will easily shortlist you if it was matched

My previous job is considered a good paid routine job and only handle tiny part of the process (MNC practice). I quit and join a new industry with a pay cut. After 10 years I am now a hod with few times high income than previous company.

Career growth may not seen in short time but in long term it will definitely pay off provided that we keep growing along the years.

Im curious though, what do you work as to suddenly decided to jump outside of MNC?

Lots of reasons, all of them valid to the person who did the jumping. I jumped out of a hospital setting into private practice, although I was slated to be the next HOD of that department - and it turned out for the better.

Update: After 1 year 6 months woking with s4hana, i got another offer with 5 figures salary

Welldone

I'm always grow 1st person, thn ask for more. If company refused, take your newly achieved skill and find another job with better offer. If that's chance to grow your skill, take it, learn 1st and negotiate later. Don't turn down the chance given by company for u to learn, they are paying you for u to learn the same time, it's much more worthy then learning new skill and paying urself during your private time. Your personal value are always the best leverage u have to negotiate for salary and job, learn something that valueable to the market is always rewarding.

It's very dangerous to stay with repetitive job with higher salary, one day unlucky u kena layout, u will find your self in uncompetitive situation to secure new job.