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post Feb 16 2024, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 16 2024, 07:35 PM)
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post Feb 17 2024, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Feb 6 2024, 10:53 AM)
Have up until 31 Mac 2024 to update data. What if after 31 Mac ? Cannot update anymore ? It’s not stated.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 6 2024, 02:20 PM)
Just examine the reasons why you should update. Fear tactics forcing you, fear loss of subsidies ? Let it roll by, worst come to worse, update next year. Once submitted, no turning back.

I have been talking to a number of frens and relatives and all of us agrees not to update as it will cause more problems then needed. At the crux of it is , our financial data should not be exploited by anyone even not by the government. To some us, privacy is very important.


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post Feb 17 2024, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 17 2024, 07:40 AM)
Just examine the reasons why you should update. Fear tactics forcing you, fear loss of subsidies ? Let it roll by, worst come to worse, update next year. Once submitted, no turning back.

I have been talking to a number of frens and relatives and all of us agrees not to update as it will cause more problems then needed. At the crux of it is , our financial data should not be exploited by anyone even not by the government. To some us, privacy is very important.
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Our local detailed financial data are already in our Govt hands.
Our overseasl banks details ( in countries with agreement with Malaysia) will be reported by the countries to our Govt

The details that we provides in PADU are just the unverified or details that are not legally penalise able .
See post 406, for the info to be provided in PADU.
Then see which info is not available by the govt if they really want to check?

You provides wrong info to LHDN ..can be penalised.
You provides wrong info to PADU,,,,can be penalised? ( if don't want subsidies)

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post Feb 17 2024, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 17 2024, 08:37 AM)
Our local detailed financial data are already in our Govt hands.
Our overseasl banks details ( in countries with agreement with Malaysia) will be reported by the countries to our Govt

The details that we provides in PADU are just the unverified or details that are not legally penalise able .

You provides wrong info to LHDN ..can be penalised.
You provides wrong info to PADU,,,,can be penalised? ( if don't want subsidies)
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Who knows. No transparency. They can do anything they want. Alternatively, they can also pass data to LHDN to come after you. This gov has no trustworthiness.
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post Feb 17 2024, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 17 2024, 08:41 AM)
Who knows. No transparency. They can do anything they want. Alternatively, they can also pass data to LHDN to come after you. This gov has no trustworthiness.
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Your penalised able and historical income trends are with lhdn, (SC Bnm)

You think LHDN so free will go for Your unverified data in PADU ?.

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post Feb 17 2024, 10:51 AM

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Just the recently CNY gathering....

PADU is one of major topic of discussion...

Well...
I can guarantee says.... None of us actually have updated it... All having doubt on the system & it's security...

Not about worries... Under declaration or what... All good tax paying citizens.... Just that don't get anything from government... Just the petrol subsidized... And some extend, sugar & others foods stuff... Which is minimal in their life....

So conclusion is...

Many wait & see the clear direction first...

What's actually PADU got to offer...
In hard facts & points πŸ‘Œ


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post Feb 17 2024, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 17 2024, 10:51 AM)
Just the recently CNY gathering....

PADU is one of major topic of discussion...

Well...
I can guarantee says.... None of us actually have updated it... All having doubt on the system & it's security...

Not about worries... Under declaration or what... All good tax paying citizens.... Just that don't get anything from government... Just the petrol subsidized... And some extend, sugar & others foods stuff... Which is minimal in their life....

So conclusion is...

Many wait & see the clear direction first...

What's actually PADU got to offer...
In hard facts & points πŸ‘Œ
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Yep, nobody here update also. Haha.
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post Feb 17 2024, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 17 2024, 08:37 AM)
Our local detailed financial data are already in our Govt hands.
Our overseasl banks details ( in countries with agreement with Malaysia) will be reported by the countries to our Govt

The details that we provides in PADU are just the unverified or details that are not legally penalise able .
See post 406, for the info to be provided in PADU.
Then see which info is not available by the govt if they really want toΒ  check?

You provides wrong info to LHDN ..can be penalised.
You provides wrong info to PADU,,,,can be penalised? ( if don't want subsidies)
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Data in financial banks are not easy for the goverment to use as there are laws against that. Unless they already pinpoint you breaking laws.

Since data is unverified why should we verified it as the more data we provide the more ....(fyi no financial data in PADU for most of us-someone trying to be funny ?)

We provide wrong data to lhdn can be penalised, we provide wrong data to PADU ....why should we provide .wrong data.. just dont do anything.

I hate being taken as a fool. The idiot has a high school project and throw in some fears and everybody rush in praising him to high glory.


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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 17 2024, 11:17 AM)
Data in financial banks are not easy for the goverment to use as there are laws against that. Unless they already pinpoint you breaking laws.
This is to proof that your earlier nmention of, ..."our financial data should not be exploited by anyone even not by the government. To some us, privacy is very important.", ....the concern about privacy cannot be of high importance, for the govt can still get it if they want.
Since data is unverified why should we verified it as the more data we provide the more ....(fyi no financial data in PADU for most of us-someone trying to be funny ?)

We provide wrong data to lhdn can be penalised, we provide wrong data to PADU ....why should we provide .wrong data..Β  just dont do anything.
this wrong data scenario is just example expreesesd by me. This wrong data or incomplete data or inaccurate data or what ever is to show that the data you provided can be true or not true in PADU..Β  . There is no legal penalise able consequences.
I hate being taken as a fool. The idiot has a lhigh school project and throw in some fears and everybody rush in praising him to high glory.
that is probably why, he had said, "no update, no problem"
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 17 2024, 12:34 PM)
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Just to correct you. He said don't blame if you did not get subsidies. biggrin.gif it's a threat....no...

They can only get individual data when needed. To extract data for the whole population is a gigantic task, across multiple databases. BNM will allow that extraction? So they think we are fools, by saying users just need verifying when it fact we are suppose to keyin every single thing.

Another thing is we are decent tax paying individuals, to provide wrong data to PADU is akin to lying. Why need commit sin when we just have to watch by the sideline and not doing anything.


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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 17 2024, 12:42 PM)
Just to correct you. He said don't blame if you did not get subsidies. biggrin.gifΒ  it's a threat....no...
but if you don't aim for the subsidy, there is no threat. He can say what he wants, there is still no concern to you . Ha ha



They can only get individual data when needed. To extract data for the whole population is a gigantic task, across multiple databases. BNM will allow that extraction? So they think we are fools, by saying users just need verifying when it fact we are suppose to keyin every single thing.

Another thing is we are decent tax paying individuals, to provide wrong data to PADU is akin to lying. Why need commit sin when we just have to watch by the sideline and not doing anything.
Yes you can still sit on the sidelines and do nothing with the PADU. NO problem, just that he said "just dont be angry if there you did not get subsidy. Ha ha.
You no help me with my "school project", ...no issue if I don't belanja you makan.

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If I don't aim for the subsidies, still why should I fill in PADU ?
National service ? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 17 2024, 12:54 PM)
If I don't aim for the subsidies, still why should I fill in PADU ?
National service ? biggrin.gif
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Just sit on the sidelines, don't do any thing. Why bother
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 17 2024, 12:56 PM)
Just sit on the sidelines, don't do any thing. Why bother
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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 17 2024, 12:42 PM)
Just to correct you. He said don't blame if you did not get subsidies. biggrin.gif  it's a threat....no...

They can only get individual data when needed. To extract data for the whole population is a gigantic task, across multiple databases. BNM will allow that extraction? So they think we are fools, by saying users just need verifying when it fact we are suppose to keyin every single thing.

Another thing is we are decent tax paying individuals, to provide wrong data to PADU is akin to lying. Why need commit sin when we just have to watch by the sideline and not doing anything.
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the info that i updated, other than income which is the same as ldhn, is my expenditures which will reduce my disposable income.
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the info that i updated, other than income which is the same as ldhn, is my expenditures which will reduce my disposable income.
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If you are T20 in LHDN, my best guess is no matter how much your expenditure, you won't get anything.

Again, no clear criterias. All depends on what Rafizi says. No transparency.

Sidenote: Saw your siggy. Xander28k is now permanent sus already. Watch out for new head slapping posts from new member.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 17 2024, 10:51 AM)
Just the recently CNY gathering....

PADU is one of major topic of discussion...

Well...
I can guarantee says.... None of us actually have updated it... All having doubt on the system & it's security...

Not about worries... Under declaration or what... All good tax paying citizens.... Just that don't get anything from government... Just the petrol subsidized... And some extend, sugar & others foods stuff... Which is minimal in their life....

So conclusion is...

Many wait & see the clear direction first...

What's actually PADU got to offer...
In hard facts & points πŸ‘Œ
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Jfyi, my spouse and I had updated it
We got nothing to lose.
We had retired and had no income for years
We had not been receiving any free money from the govt.
We did not get the RM100 Ewallet money, eventhough our ex bosses got it, our friends and relatives who are much richer got it.
We found in PADU, ..they still listed both of us, as "single" n "working".....
We updated those info, with the hope that we will get free money by doing those updates.

BTW, if you had been getting free money previously all these while, .... don't do anything that could potentially jeopardise it.

This post has been edited by MUM: Feb 17 2024, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 17 2024, 01:18 PM)
Jfyi, my spouse and I had updated it
We got nothing to lose.
We had retired and had no income
We had not been receiving any free money from the govt.
We did not get the RM100 Ewallet money, eventhough our ex bosses got it, our friends and relatives who are much richer got it.
We found in PADU, ..they still listed both of us, as "single" n "working".....
We updated those info, with the hope that we will get free money by doing those updates.

BTW, if you had been getting free money previously all these while, .... don't do anything that could potentially jeopardise it.

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post Feb 17 2024, 01:21 PM

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the info that i updated, other than income which is the same as ldhn, is my expenditures which will reduce my disposable income.
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Thanks. You are the only one here reporting that PADU actually has some financial on you.

So you got hope of getting subsidies biggrin.gif maybe STR ?

Maybe I read your post wrong ,PADU got your financial records ?

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