from what i see, many here think they are not eligible for subsidy and thus do not want to expose many personal info. so no harm to the gov even if those eligible do not want it.

New subsidies will use PADU as the criteria. Without registration, even if you qualify from existing information, will not get the new subsidy. This is the reason for PADU to be set up and that is to rein in blanket subsidies starting with fuel. This is then likely to be expanded to other blanket subsidies.

no lar... you filled properly your taxes... cos there is no requirement to fill info about share dividend or epf or fds...

properties rental... hmmmm... that could be your downfall... 
keep that in mind... or quick quick sell away or transfer away your rental properties...

Hmm...

Meaning just JPN data is collected yet that Stats Department guys said already intergrade various agencies??? For 30mil people....

What he trying to prove??

i only update 1 of my savings account out of the 26 accounts that i have. i do not believe they have the authority to browse through ur account by just giving ur account number. probably just to bank in rebates etc if any in the future. if they really wanna know, they have other ways to do it as per TDZ macc case.

just like e-filing where u have to update ur account number also.

The article below is based what Rafizi said.

The minister added that no action will be taken against those who do not update their information in the database system.

However, Rafizi said those involved are at risk of being excluded from receiving targeted subsidies that will use updated data in PADU later.

The risk of exclusion could occur because the government only uses existing information and information updated in PADU to determine the household profile and eligibility for those who qualify for targeted subsidies or otherwise.

"According to its mandate, PADU is tasked with providing the most accurate household profiles for the targeted reassignment of subsidies.

"If you do not update your data, there is no problem, but if you do not receive (subsidies), don't be angry," he said at a press conference here today.
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/12/...-database-nsttv

Probably gov lost track of those that exile from working society many years back macam old folks or Suri rumah. Update are more meant for them maybe, Ada ke yang cerai2 ke sangkut2 marital status, manatau. Yang anak2 semua takmau cari kerja duduk rumah ke.
The Air alone kenot complete it, it has to be Kir to fill up the whole family members only then the Air registration appeared updated

Lapuzi say whatever I don't really take it seriously, I don't understand why everyone keep picking on him alone. At the end he is not the person who sits there approving each registration and to approve who gets the bantuan.

So by that means I still don't get it if a person is old enuf jobless but no record in gov and leeching off a family for years , does the Kir needs to add him in part of Air???

okay. give chance to Rafizi.... the staff below does the approvals with list of criteria by the top government people.
clear on that...
second part...
it's personal level... your family issues. we cannot interfere... discuss among family 

Sorry if i gave the impression that i am pro U. Your previous statement is also a bit revolting to me. It would be nice if you rephrase it better.

like copying what US academia likes to use: bell curve grading...

what I know is using disposal income without normalization is the wrong.
using purely active income without taking into account of passive income and net worth also wrong.

that's why I am a believer in UBI... pay everyone with a income tax file say 100 rm per month tax credit/refund, which they can take out every month, and just remove all subsidies and increase income tax by 2% absolute.

(no one will be left behind.... hah)

unfortunately, I am a believer in GST... there is a need for consumption tax in Malaysia... this silly SST up for this but not that is silly and inefficient... tax needs to be simple so that there are no abuses.

in same time, I see no harm in increasing income tax rate for those earning above a certain threshold (also most probably cos I am no longer working... haha).

This year I have not purchased anything from overseas yet via laz or shopee, but I think for now, the cost is being absorbed by the sellers just cos their margin is take it. Just my guess. But this is another stupid move... so called help bring 200 million rm revenue... u and I know for a country, this is pure spare change... just damn stupid this initiative and in same time causes rise in inflation. (10% can only collect 200 million, so it is only a 2 billion goods coming in only).

So at end, PADU looks like a veil attempt by gov to collect data on her citizen only... cos LHDN data should be the most accurate. just get everyone to file taxes, and the rest is easier to solve.

it brings a lot of question.

u spend more, so u have less disposable income, and therefore eligible for subsidy? as compared to another who saves more and less expenditure, and therefore not eligible for subsidy?

In thus youtube video, DR WEE had tell of with examples about "disposable income" issue if PADU is basing on it.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...MWd91XPDaq8Ib4s

Updates as of 31 Jan 2024..

2.27 million of 30.08 million individuals record in PADU system have updated their details


#PADUSejahtera
#MalaysiaPADU
#StatsMalaysia
#MalaysiaMadani

moe teachers are now being warned and forced to complete PADU

funny thing is, if teacher is AIR, spouse is KIR which is non-gomen, teacher couldn't complete the padu attestation hahahah

Our local detailed financial data are already in our Govt hands.
Our overseasl banks details ( in countries with agreement with Malaysia) will be reported by the countries to our Govt

The details that we provides in PADU are just the unverified or details that are not legally penalise able .

You provides wrong info to LHDN ..can be penalised.
You provides wrong info to PADU,,,,can be penalised? ( if don't want subsidies)

Just the recently CNY gathering....

PADU is one of major topic of discussion...

Well...
I can guarantee says.... None of us actually have updated it... All having doubt on the system & it's security...

Not about worries... Under declaration or what... All good tax paying citizens.... Just that don't get anything from government... Just the petrol subsidized... And some extend, sugar & others foods stuff... Which is minimal in their life....

So conclusion is...

Many wait & see the clear direction first...

What's actually PADU got to offer...
In hard facts & points 👌

Just to correct you. He said don't blame if you did not get subsidies.   it's a threat....no...

They can only get individual data when needed. To extract data for the whole population is a gigantic task, across multiple databases. BNM will allow that extraction? So they think we are fools, by saying users just need verifying when it fact we are suppose to keyin every single thing.

Another thing is we are decent tax paying individuals, to provide wrong data to PADU is akin to lying. Why need commit sin when we just have to watch by the sideline and not doing anything.

the info that i updated, other than income which is the same as ldhn, is my expenditures which will reduce my disposable income.

Jfyi, my spouse and I had updated it
We got nothing to lose.
We had retired and had no income
We had not been receiving any free money from the govt.
We did not get the RM100 Ewallet money, eventhough our ex bosses got it, our friends and relatives who are much richer got it.
We found in PADU, ..they still listed both of us, as "single" n "working".....
We updated those info, with the hope that we will get free money by doing those updates.

BTW, if you had been getting free money previously all these while, .... don't do anything that could potentially jeopardise it.

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Probably,  perhaps, ...without the clearly stated that fuel subdidy thing will definitrly be based on PADU and will be surely be implemented by any future governing parties.
Those that think they will not qualified for the fuel subsidies, they will not updates they don't mind missed those subsidies for fear of losing some control.
Updates PADU, next elections winner may just throw away that "school project" and replace with one of their own too.