how well did the AI object avoidance worked for it?
did u have to move objects from floor before letting the vacuum work, or was ok to leave it be and the vacuum will avoid running over stuff? according to reviews, seems like the rv30 max plus is the kind that will ram stuff over an d be obnoxious because it doesn't quite do object detection well or at all?
so was wondering how the S10+ fares in that regard?
Also it has a spin mop right? how effective is it for mopping?
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The object avoidance is generally ok apart from carpets and thinner flatter table legs, usually i just pickup my kids toys and big boxes cause i want the floor to be mopped
yes spin mop, in my case the only thing the robot rams over or decides to conquer is my computer table legs, like these
but it'll just make a noise and I just let it be lol
1. i redid mapping. but at some point it kinda got lost in a room and couldnt get back to base station. so i had to lift it up, check the underside, then put it back down. then it got back.
2. at base station, felt like it was not charging though it said it was. so i resitted the base station then let it try to dock again, which it did. cleared app cache then waited few minutes. it changed from 41 to 42% it is charging albeit slowly.
i see on forum somme users for tapo rv30 plus (not max, but they are probably similar enough) were also reporting dock recharging issues
i'll withold judgement for a week. still too soon.
will try resit the base so it's more flat against the wall. it's in a slightly tight space with a short cable to power plug, so it's at a slight angle. the robot does not like that since it wastes time trying to turn to angle it properly before it makes contact.
Ps: notice the front sensor had the plastic removable thin strip still attached, so i removed. that may have messed up the sensors previously and i didnt notice. i also fix the base station so its properly flat against the wall with room on both sides so the robot can reverse park into it. it did it in 1-2 tries so thats as good as it gets
*update
ok i think charging is ok. i'll just time it to be sure it's charging within spec. previously i think it was a loose contact due to base station positioning. u wanna make sure u get that right.
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 12:59 PM
just an update 1. i redid mapping. but at some point it kinda got lost in a room and couldnt get back to base station. so i had to lift it up, check the underside, then put it back down. then it got back.
2. at base station, felt like it was not charging though it said it was. so i resitted the base station then let it try to dock again, which it did. cleared app cache then waited few minutes. it changed from 41 to 42% it is charging albeit slowly. i see on forum somme users for tapo rv30 plus (not max, but they are probably similar enough) were also reporting dock recharging issues
will try resit the base so it's more flat against the wall. it's in a slightly tight space with a short cable to power plug, so it's at a slight angle. the robot does not like that since it wastes time trying to turn to angle it properly before it makes contact. Ps: notice the front sensor had the plastic removable thin strip still attached, so i removed. that may have messed up the sensors previously and i didnt notice. i also fix the base station so its properly flat against the wall with room on both sides so the robot can reverse park into it. it did it in 1-2 tries so thats as good as it gets *update
ok i think charging is ok. i'll just time it to be sure it's charging within spec. previously i think it was a loose contact due to base station positioning. u wanna make sure u get that right.
Are you too pedantic or the robot itself is bad?
But maybe I'll share mine so far on a better robot.
Basically, I have no issue with any of the problems that you have mentioned. Just a little bumping from time to time but object avoidance is pretty much good overall. Cleaning, I do get quite clean floor with vac and mopping, unless the stain is badly ingrained onto the floor where strength is required to remove it. It will always be able to find it's dock even when I shift it away. Self cleaning, etc. I don't bother cleaning my house on my own nowadays since I got the robot. It pretty much do a good job. Only refill and discard the waste.
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 9 2025, 10:41 AM)
I flooded my kitchen once and used my robot to clean it. It made it worse at first by spreading more water to other parts of the kitchen. Then it returned to it's dock to clean the mop and continued cleaning. That's where the real moping starts.
No issue so far. If you wan a robot that can get the job done without hassle. Do consider investing a better one.
Can you recommend me the brand you're using, how much is it?
Can you recommend me the brand you're using, how much is it?
I am using roborock after doing my research. The model that I'm currently using qrevo master. Iinm it has been discontinued and replaced by qrevo curve. If you're willing to spend more. Get saros10.
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I am using roborock after doing my research. The model that I'm currently using qrevo master. Iinm it has been discontinued and replaced by qrevo curve. If you're willing to spend more. Get saros10.
BRB thanks will look at Shopee for the price first.
But maybe I'll share mine so far on a better robot.
Basically, I have no issue with any of the problems that you have mentioned. Just a little bumping from time to time but object avoidance is pretty much good overall. Cleaning, I do get quite clean floor with vac and mopping, unless the stain is badly ingrained onto the floor where strength is required to remove it. It will always be able to find it's dock even when I shift it away. Self cleaning, etc. I don't bother cleaning my house on my own nowadays since I got the robot. It pretty much do a good job. Only refill and discard the waste.
R u?
Well do u think robot circling for 15 minutes trying to dock is considered normal? If u think that's ok, then I'm speechless 😅
Anyway after remap (set dock nicely first to avoid potential issues. Also during remap, pause to set no go zones identified on first try, then resume), did first clean, but not enough juice so it had to charge before resuming. All normal till the end, but when it tried to go back dock it couldn't go the normal route it went before, so after a while it decided to zip through the block zone. It got through without getting stuck so I give that a pass. Then it docked without issue. So this time it was ok from beginning to end with some minor hi hiccups. Did not get stuck or tangle issues. Was completely hands free. At that point lock map.
For the clean out of a 10 score, I give it a 8.5 for vacuum. For mop 6
Mop got lower score cause I had to manual mop to add cleaner fluid to floor first, before letting the robot do a pass using mop and plain water.
The end result no smears detected, floor is clean. Vacuum at max suction picked up 85/90%
After job done, have to do check up to empty water tank, check the roller to clean, mop also clean. Not gonna clean mop everyday, so gonna remove mop attachment and do it at least weekly, but rest of the days just regular vacuum
I haven't had it long enuff so I'll withold my recommendation for now. But so far so good.
To fix just had to
- check sensors has all the plastic stickers removed - position dock properly before mapping and don't move it later
- in map editor , add furniture, mat, no go zones. Give the robot as much info to help it navigate
- after first clean, lock map
So overall satisfied
*Update
Setting room clean order is important. Personally I order small rooms first, and big room last. I wouldn't recommend simply just do a clean all without setting a room order but to each their own.
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 06:17 PM
Well do u think robot circling for 15 minutes trying to dock is considered normal? If u think that's ok, then I'm speechless 😅
Anyway after remap (set dock nicely first to avoid potential issues. Also during remap, pause to set no go zones identified on first try, then resume), did first clean, but not enough juice so it had to charge before resuming. All normal till the end, but when it tried to go back dock it couldn't go the normal route it went before, so after a while it decided to zip through the block zone. It got through without getting stuck so I give that a pass. Then it docked without issue. So this time it was ok from beginning to end with some minor hi hiccups. Did not get stuck or tangle issues. Was completely hands free. At that point lock map.
For the clean out of a 10 score, I give it a 8.5 for vacuum. For mop 6
Mop got lower score cause I had to manual mop to add cleaner fluid to floor first, before letting the robot do a pass using mop and plain water.
The end result no smears detected, floor is clean. Vacuum at max suction picked up 85/90%
After job done, have to do check up to empty water tank, check the roller to clean, mop also clean. Not gonna clean mop everyday, so gonna remove mop attachment and do it at least weekly, but rest of the days just regular vacuum
I haven't had it long enuff so I'll withold my recommendation for now. But so far so good.
To fix just had to
- check sensors has all the plastic stickers removed - position dock properly before mapping and don't move it later
- in map editor , add furniture, mat, no go zones. Give the robot as much info to help it navigate
- after first clean, lock map So overall satisfied *Update
Setting room clean order is important. Personally I order small rooms first, and big room last. I wouldn't recommend simply just do a clean all without setting a room order but to each their own.
Definitely not normal. Mine will easily detect its dock and parks it even with obstruction. No remapping since day 1. Also I get to set 2 different maps. Maybe downstairs and upstairs. It will get things done by itself without mapping again.
Dam so manual .. haha .. I don't have to do anything aside from refilling and discarding the waste water every 2 to 3 days.
BRB thanks will look at Shopee for the price first.
I think saros10 is on promo now? But do your own due diligence ba. Too many robots on the market. But saros is currently the top of the line for roborock. You can't go wrong.
Investing on a good robot is worth it. But at the same time, they release too many new models within a short period of time and eventually obsolete over time. So do some reading before deckding one
Definitely not normal. Mine will easily detect its dock and parks it even with obstruction. No remapping since day 1. Also I get to set 2 different maps. Maybe downstairs and upstairs. It will get things done by itself without mapping again.
Dam so manual .. haha .. I don't have to do anything aside from refilling and discarding the waste water every 2 to 3 days.
Time to consider a better one haha
to be fair though, i put the dock in a spot where its a bit narrow. no choice since its the only good spot i could find. after some furniture re arrangement i managed to add a bit more space. actually i dont really think its reached the point me wanting to replace it with anything else just yet. i still haven't found any that is better with the same price point. remember, i paid rm 570 ish for this. that is already cheap. all the others i saw that was competing against it were rm 750-1000k or slightly more.
from my first successful full clean, it did a good enough job to satisfy me, and i better understand the manual labor to maintain it. so for me especially for mopping, it's more of an assist rather than outright replacement for human manual cleaning. for the deep cleaning i probably have to do manually and thats ok with me.
if i had paid like rm 2k- 4k, i would EXPECT/DEMAND the robot really do all the automation bells and whistles an all that especially for the price paid
well look here
u see the line going straight through the bottom couch. this was just one issue where it got slightly confused and spent a short time trying to get back to the dock station. in the end it decided to go straight through the no go zone to dock. it didn't physically get stuck so whatever, i only care about the results anyway as long as there is no big issues.
but u see the narrow area between 2 couches it previously got through fine before, why did it go round and round confused and couldnt go that way to go dock?
i sus cause i was editing map with furniture, so maybe it did something, i'm not sure. will see in the next cleaning session.
also notice the movement pattern. the left side is much more methodical in a good pattern. but in the bottom right it looks haphazard. most of the other places it has the left side pattern for cleaning elsewhere especially open spaces. i think because previously i sent it back to dock to recharge because it was running low. not an issue yet for now.
but in summary, it did manage to do the full clean without me having to pick it up at all. and the issue only happened at the very end but even then, when it zip through under couch eventually , it just went straight to dock and parked like a pro smoothly
so reason why u probably did not encounter similar issue, u have more open spaces than i
*update
ok so i finished doing the cleaning maintenance for the rv30 max plus. it was easier than i thought. but i did not find the cleaner brush that supposedly comes with the vacuum other than that it was fine. the tangles in the main roller i could undo so far. too bad it's not a detangle roller, but u get what u paid for i guess. i see some reviews for other vacuum say in spec has detangle but when u see the reviews that may not be the case, so u have to check if it does or not
malz, how often do u clean the roller and the hepa filter? and side brush? after each run? i'm wondering if i can do that after every 2 maybe 3 days? if everyday is a bit
i don't plan to use the mop with just water only. ill use it once a week when i do a manual mop with tile cleaner fluid followed up by the robot water mop full clean and clean it after use.
by the way i noticed in the app, it has a timer for when to replace hepa filter, side brushes etc. how does it know though? is there a chip in those parts so it can identify them? What happens when it goes to 0? but the part in question looks fine, then what? will see what happens when it happens i guess. Because i'm not gonna replace a part if it looks fine.
by the way in the tapo app for vacuum they got like a part shop for the dock to add a water proof mat for it. u can click it and it will bring u to store to purchase (not going to of course)
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 06:22 AM
I think saros10 is on promo now? But do your own due diligence ba. Too many robots on the market. But saros is currently the top of the line for roborock. You can't go wrong.
Investing on a good robot is worth it. But at the same time, they release too many new models within a short period of time and eventually obsolete over time. So do some reading before deckding one
on shopee 5759 and 7779 (without discount 15,998 ) ? my bottom-line is only 1k maybe up to 3k max, and only if it could do automation/mop/vacuum really well if not, whats the point paying so much? anyway we all got our own different budgets, so not criticizing anyone elses choices
u getting? let us know how it performs thats a lot of money, i would be expecting perfection. i assume the later one with a hand is to open doors?
this is the saros10 you mentioned
it says the saros10 can charge in about 2 hours? mine took way longer to charge
also the saros10 does the retractable mop, clean the mop pad, dry the mop pad. extending/retractable side brush also automates the water as well (refill/drainage). obstacle avoidance seems to be good according to review. price? on shopee somewhere between 4-5k u get what u pay for i guess.
the saros10r with dual rotating mop seemed way better than the saros10 which had a single big vibrating mop. but the saros10 had a heigher mop retract than the saros10r. but that said, to me seems the saros10r is better because it mops better tbh
another interesting difference was the lidar. saros 10r has an internal lidar, whereas the saros 10 has a retractable lidar. The 10r has the newest obstacle avoidance tech by roborock. obstacle avoidance for both models seem to be better than average. because of their lidar design, their height is much smaller making it easier to fit under tight spaces which is very good.
they both can also go up slopes at certain heights. better than tapo? most likely. Will it be able to reach my back kitchen where it has a big slope step? i dont know but if not it would be a waste of money buying it only just for that hoping it does
this is the other roborock model (the most expensive one) with the arm
*update
uh... 180ml dustbin size on the vaccum, BECAUSE they had to accommodate the space for the hand which according to the review which was gimmicky hit and miss half the time. so after paying so much thats what you get?
feels like they got to make more trips back to dock to unload to make room more often. and these robots work on a timer, when they r out of juice, they have to go back to dock to recharge (even my cheap tapo does that too).
tbh i'm not convinced for the asking price
just seems to me ur paying to be a beta tester for robot with hand. the trade off is too big, especially the hand doesnt seem to be that practical as it currently is based on the youtube review. at the end of the day ud still be paying for it, and personally i would want my moneys worth
*update
based on the reviews i would say the Roborock Saros 10R would be on my buy list (because it pretty much does most of what i would want a robot vacuum to do, and based on the reviews the results look good so seems quite effective. And it can even handle detergent for mopping and not simply water only). just have to wait till it or something similar to it reaches my buy price. but for the next 5+ years i'm ok with the tapo, so i can wait it out
right now the roborock 10r is on shopee for RM5,759
by comparison the tapo rv30 max plus only cost me rm 586. mopping i still have to do manually (details in previous post), and some manual maintenance for cleaning the robot itself, but other than that, it can do automated vacuum. the clean job seemed fine to me as long as it's not a caked in stain. as for obstacle avoidance i doubt the tapo is as good as the roborock 10R, but despite playing bumper cars it still worked fine without issue. Navigation to go around home to clean, then go back to dock all worked (and thats really what matters most). for me i rather stick to the cheaper tapo thats good enough and for the cheap by comparison
sure the Roborock Saros 10R looks damn awesome, but for almost 10 times the price what i paid for the tapo? for me, no (waiting for price drop)
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 9 2025, 07:27 PM)
I think saros10 is on promo now? But do your own due diligence ba. Too many robots on the market. But saros is currently the top of the line for roborock. You can't go wrong.
Investing on a good robot is worth it. But at the same time, they release too many new models within a short period of time and eventually obsolete over time. So do some reading before deckding one
Bro. The price is really high & over budget for me. Over 5000 & above 😱😳
How about Xiaomi vacuum robots, they around 2000, are they good enough?
to be fair though, i put the dock in a spot where its a bit narrow. no choice since its the only good spot i could find. after some furniture re arrangement i managed to add a bit more space. actually i dont really think its reached the point me wanting to replace it with anything else just yet. i still haven't found any that is better with the same price point. remember, i paid rm 570 ish for this. that is already cheap. all the others i saw that was competing against it were rm 750-1000k or slightly more.
from my first successful full clean, it did a good enough job to satisfy me, and i better understand the manual labor to maintain it. so for me especially for mopping, it's more of an assist rather than outright replacement for human manual cleaning. for the deep cleaning i probably have to do manually and thats ok with me.
if i had paid like rm 2k- 4k, i would EXPECT/DEMAND the robot really do all the automation bells and whistles an all that especially for the price paid well look here
u see the line going straight through the bottom couch. this was just one issue where it got slightly confused and spent a short time trying to get back to the dock station. in the end it decided to go straight through the no go zone to dock. it didn't physically get stuck so whatever, i only care about the results anyway as long as there is no big issues.
but u see the narrow area between 2 couches it previously got through fine before, why did it go round and round confused and couldnt go that way to go dock?
i sus cause i was editing map with furniture, so maybe it did something, i'm not sure. will see in the next cleaning session.
also notice the movement pattern. the left side is much more methodical in a good pattern. but in the bottom right it looks haphazard. most of the other places it has the left side pattern for cleaning elsewhere especially open spaces. i think because previously i sent it back to dock to recharge because it was running low. not an issue yet for now.
but in summary, it did manage to do the full clean without me having to pick it up at all. and the issue only happened at the very end but even then, when it zip through under couch eventually , it just went straight to dock and parked like a pro smoothly
so reason why u probably did not encounter similar issue, u have more open spaces than i *update
ok so i finished doing the cleaning maintenance for the rv30 max plus. it was easier than i thought. but i did not find the cleaner brush that supposedly comes with the vacuum other than that it was fine. the tangles in the main roller i could undo so far. too bad it's not a detangle roller, but u get what u paid for i guess. i see some reviews for other vacuum say in spec has detangle but when u see the reviews that may not be the case, so u have to check if it does or not malz, how often do u clean the roller and the hepa filter? and side brush? after each run? i'm wondering if i can do that after every 2 maybe 3 days? if everyday is a bit
i don't plan to use the mop with just water only. ill use it once a week when i do a manual mop with tile cleaner fluid followed up by the robot water mop full clean and clean it after use.
by the way i noticed in the app, it has a timer for when to replace hepa filter, side brushes etc. how does it know though? is there a chip in those parts so it can identify them? What happens when it goes to 0? but the part in question looks fine, then what? will see what happens when it happens i guess. Because i'm not gonna replace a part if it looks fine.
by the way in the tapo app for vacuum they got like a part shop for the dock to add a water proof mat for it. u can click it and it will bring u to store to purchase (not going to of course)
Your cleaning map quite messy haha .. mine is something like this .. it cleans my room and the dock is at my living room
on shopee 5759 and 7779 (without discount 15,998 ) ? my bottom-line is only 1k maybe up to 3k max, and only if it could do automation/mop/vacuum really well if not, whats the point paying so much? anyway we all got our own different budgets, so not criticizing anyone elses choices
u getting? let us know how it performs thats a lot of money, i would be expecting perfection. i assume the later one with a hand is to open doors? this is the saros10 you mentioned
it says the saros10 can charge in about 2 hours? mine took way longer to charge
also the saros10 does the retractable mop, clean the mop pad, dry the mop pad. extending/retractable side brush also automates the water as well (refill/drainage). obstacle avoidance seems to be good according to review. price? on shopee somewhere between 4-5k u get what u pay for i guess.
the saros10r with dual rotating mop seemed way better than the saros10 which had a single big vibrating mop. but the saros10 had a heigher mop retract than the saros10r. but that said, to me seems the saros10r is better because it mops better tbh
another interesting difference was the lidar. saros 10r has an internal lidar, whereas the saros 10 has a retractable lidar. The 10r has the newest obstacle avoidance tech by roborock. obstacle avoidance for both models seem to be better than average. because of their lidar design, their height is much smaller making it easier to fit under tight spaces which is very good.
they both can also go up slopes at certain heights. better than tapo? most likely. Will it be able to reach my back kitchen where it has a big slope step? i dont know but if not it would be a waste of money buying it only just for that hoping it does this is the other roborock model (the most expensive one) with the arm
*update
uh... 180ml dustbin size on the vaccum, BECAUSE they had to accommodate the space for the hand which according to the review which was gimmicky hit and miss half the time. so after paying so much thats what you get?
feels like they got to make more trips back to dock to unload to make room more often. and these robots work on a timer, when they r out of juice, they have to go back to dock to recharge (even my cheap tapo does that too).
tbh i'm not convinced for the asking price
just seems to me ur paying to be a beta tester for robot with hand. the trade off is too big, especially the hand doesnt seem to be that practical as it currently is based on the youtube review. at the end of the day ud still be paying for it, and personally i would want my moneys worth *update
based on the reviews i would say the Roborock Saros 10R would be on my buy list (because it pretty much does most of what i would want a robot vacuum to do, and based on the reviews the results look good so seems quite effective. And it can even handle detergent for mopping and not simply water only). just have to wait till it or something similar to it reaches my buy price. but for the next 5+ years i'm ok with the tapo, so i can wait it out
right now the roborock 10r is on shopee for RM5,759 by comparison the tapo rv30 max plus only cost me rm 586. mopping i still have to do manually (details in previous post), and some manual maintenance for cleaning the robot itself, but other than that, it can do automated vacuum. the clean job seemed fine to me as long as it's not a caked in stain. as for obstacle avoidance i doubt the tapo is as good as the roborock 10R, but despite playing bumper cars it still worked fine without issue. Navigation to go around home to clean, then go back to dock all worked (and thats really what matters most). for me i rather stick to the cheaper tapo thats good enough and for the cheap by comparison
sure the Roborock Saros 10R looks damn awesome, but for almost 10 times the price what i paid for the tapo? for me, no (waiting for price drop)
I wanted saros when it first released (about 9k?). But as you can see the price gets slashed so fast after they release the 70z. Not worth buying when the robot is first released. Hence I ended up with qrevo master although saros10 was rather tempting.
I don't think I need a new robot now, mine is doing fine and I think it's good enuf. Haha .. I got it around 3k when it was on promo.
Bro. The price is really high & over budget for me. Over 5000 & above 😱😳
How about Xiaomi vacuum robots, they around 2000, are they good enough?
I haven't tried Xiaomi though. You have to do your own research. You can look at other roborock options too. Saros is just the top line of their product. I think with 2 to 3k you should get a decent one with rbg camera. Better avoidance.
Your cleaning map quite messy haha .. mine is something like this .. it cleans my room and the dock is at my living room
On my 2nd clean it was perfect. Clean cleaning line patterns. And this time it went between the couches narrow path, no issue.
It did get stuck in one spot (not shown in pic) when trying to get back to dock but a no go zone should fix that
I couldn't find the clean brush, apparently it's hidden in the dock once u flip the lid. Tbh it wasn't effective using it to clean the hard packed dirt for maintaining the robot but better than nothing I guess. Can do a deep clean if really needed on a need to basis The tapo app works but I encountered issue where widget no longer worked. It worked ok before but not now. So I deleted the widget on Android and tried link device again, then try dock, cannot.
I can dock via tapo app so whatever
Tested , seem it can climb over my exercise yoga mat which is somewhat thick. But it will push it around sometimes. Overall was ok though
Apparently there is a limit to the number of no go zones . It's disappointing they add a limit but luckily is was sufficient
Cleaning for me took 45 minutes so not bad. Lots of charge left after finished clean. I was using max vacuum suction, no mopping. Only 1 pass
because i accidentally close door for 1 room, it decided to skip that and do the other rooms first. so after it docked when done, i went to tapo app and point click it to go clean the room it missed (opened the door of course) so yeah, if a room had door close it will just skip it for that clean session.
wow... ur roborock app also has furniture recognition. mine doesn't even have that in the app. have to manually add where they r. i'm not sure if the robot is actually using that information or not (probably is but i'm not sure). As long as it does it's job smoothly, thats all that really matters
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 12:53 PM
I wanted saros when it first released (about 9k?). But as you can see the price gets slashed so fast after they release the 70z. Not worth buying when the robot is first released. Hence I ended up with qrevo master although saros10 was rather tempting.
I don't think I need a new robot now, mine is doing fine and I think it's good enuf. Haha .. I got it around 3k when it was on promo.
I noticed that. Even this rv30 max plus on release was 1k something. Now is cheaper.
This is exactly why I wouldn't rush to buy even if it's amazing, not until the price starts to make sense or fall into my spending budget
9k 15k, wtf ðŸ˜
Anyway I c we both have the same plan 😊
3k for qrevo? Im not familiar with this model. I will YouTube it later.
Roborock says that the Saros 10R normally has a retail price of RM6,399. In conjunction with the opening of the two brand stores, the brand has a 15% discount off all purchases, including the Saros 10R, but only for the first 200 customers.
😬 Just only priced at... Marketing speak as if ur getting it at a good deal price 😅
*update
ooo qrevo master priced at RM2,679 (probably lesser with discount voucher if u got shopee vip vouchers or something maybe)
saw the vacuum wars review for the qrevo master, seems to have all the bells and whistles i need, so then, what exactly does the Saros 10R have over it to justify such a huge price increase? the newer obstacle avoidance system? but according to the reviews, seems like the qrevo master is doing great as is, so....
I have a qrevo master for downstairs and my old q7 max upstairs. We have carpets upstairs, and the q7 is fine for that because it's mopping wasn't great.
The master is brilliant and does a great job on hardwood floors and pretty good on rugs too, and we have two cats and two dogs. Oh, and my other half has long hair down to her bum too, and I don't have to do a crazy amount of maintenance.
The saros looks great but I'm not sure its worth the additional cost over the master.
guess i'm not the only one who thought so
@malz89
how is the qrevo master detangle for the roller? does it actually work? or do u have to manually remove the hair from roller each time to clean it?
Also because it marketed the mop pads as highly automated for clean and swap, is it totally hands of for maintenance? or do u still have to manually maintain the mop or not? this is what i'm curious about
Obstacle avoidance is really good… BUT downside is Saros also avoids curtains, leaving floor (edges) under/behind curtain unclean. I hope they will solve it by software update.
wow... avoid curtain, so how? not too big a deal for me. the tapo i have brushes slightly against the curtain, but then it stays away, so no issue for it. so i'm assuming the saros 10r works similar, or does it keep a further distance? no idea.
qrevo master ranked 19 on vacuumwars, behind the edge, curve, slim, no idea y.
here they say to pass on master and go pro instead
roborock saros 10r = RM5,759 roborock qrevo master = RM2,679 Tapo rv30 max plus = rm 586 (using voucher)
unless you want really need the detergent auto dispenser, doubt i would go for the saros 10r for that price, when the qrevo master does a bang job as is with very few caveats (according to the reviews) for much cheaper. it doesnt do the mop swap, but at least it cleans it. master seems the better value buy in the 2-3k range unless somebody has a different reco?
roborock even has 2 new physical stores in malaysia which doubles up as repair center, so if anything goes wrong, u know where to go.
summary
- u want a cheap usable robot just for vacuum but ok with mediocre mopping, and don't mind less automation, then Tapo rv30 max plus (500-700 price range). But is it the cheapest? no, because i saw different brand models like the MOVA Robot Vacuum E10 selling for RM474 but it has no dock for unloading trash into a bag. Not everyone wants a bag so may or may not be a big deal to you.
- u can spend for mid-range, something good for mopping,more automation, and better obstacle avoidance, then qrevo master (2-3k price range). maybe there is another similarly like it but cheaper, but what that is, i dont know
- money is no object, you want the best even if the gains might not be best bang for bucks necessarily but is an improvement nevertheless, then Saros 10R it is ( 5 -6k price range ). In vacuumwars they mention other top performers like the Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni, Dreame X50 Ultra among others. so i'm not necessarily saying Saros 10R is the #1, just that based on the review i saw seems to do pretty much everything for the high end segment. Maybe the competition does it better for cheaper for their high end model. u have to dyor.
If u have a different opinion for this, feel free to share, i would like to know also
*update
sorry, the qrevo master is rm4349 lazada. so u can ignore 2-3k cause that is wrong.
RM2,679 is for the qrevo PRO. which is what the youtuber recommended over the master. requires further investigation. doesnt matter if something is good, if the price is not right to make it a good buy
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 10 2025, 09:44 AM)
I haven't tried Xiaomi though. You have to do your own research. You can look at other roborock options too. Saros is just the top line of their product. I think with 2 to 3k you should get a decent one with rbg camera. Better avoidance.
Okay thanks I will think about it first for a while, I didn't expect a robot vacuum to cost over 5000.
anyone using dreame L10s Pro? i see the auto mop cleaning function mcm very nice, no need to manually clean and change mop pad currently using deebot for 4years+, it get worse every time the firmware update not sure they did it on purpose or wat
Jun 9 2025, 10:53 AM
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other than that it was fine. the tangles in the main roller i could undo so far. too bad it's not a detangle roller, but u get what u paid for i guess. i see some reviews for other vacuum say in spec has detangle but when u see the reviews that may not be the case, so u have to check if it does or not
) ? my bottom-line is only 1k maybe up to 3k max, and only if it could do automation/mop/vacuum really well if not, whats the point paying so much? anyway we all got our own different budgets, so not criticizing anyone elses choices 
so yeah, if a room had door close it will just skip it for that clean session.
). In vacuumwars they mention other top performers like the Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni, Dreame X50 Ultra among others. so i'm not necessarily saying Saros 10R is the #1, just that based on the review i saw seems to do pretty much everything for the high end segment. Maybe the competition does it better for cheaper for their high end model. u have to dyor.
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