Dreame L10s Pro Ultra Heat

rm 2379 on sale shopee


reviews



https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dreame-L10s-P...e.808285.0.html


these days reddit is flooded with ai and bots giving fake reviews. so take with a grain of salt
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/commen...10s_ultra_heat/


buyers guide
https://vacuumwars.com/ultimate-dreame-robo...ers-guide-2025/

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 04:11 PM

pricing almost same as roborock, function wise both also similar....hard to decide

i found this side by side comparison

https://www.rtings.com/robot-vacuum/tools/c...pro/46161/60895

*update

wow... i just noticed both those 2 models dont even have a hepa filter. My cheap tapo rv30 max plus does. all it is, is just a hepa block filter where vacuum is. so that fine particulars dont free float. i'm assuming it only blocks it when exhausting to the dock dust bag, not fully sure. bottomline it has one.

so not sure why these more expensive robots dont have it. could it because the older robots did not have this feature back then? seems like the robot vaccum is moving at a quick pace. Wait long enough and the competition get left in the dust (hopefully cheaper too)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 04:32 PM

ok i been using Dreame top of the line robot since Dec 2023. Bought it during 12.12 the best period to buy this robot because that time they gave me accessories and additional 1 year warranty on top of the official 2 years. Total damage 3.8k and the model is L20 ultra.

Been using it non stop 2x mop+sapu everyday since day 1. Now my final schedule is sapu+mop 1 cycle morning. Then night sapu once and mop twice. I need to seperate the mopping because the battery cannot last for the whole dinner schedule, end up have to work half way then recharge and continue again which is already 11pm very noisy. Now my robot quietly mop at night.
Once my robot was out of commission for 3 weeks due to my own fault.

My thoughts.
- House significantly cleaner. It's nice having clean shiny floor all the time. I run mine without detergent also can have smooth shiny floor.
- accessories very cheap, buy in bulk from China.
- honestly think the model L10 also can work the same. You dont need kuat vacuum power, the most important part is the battery so u can just set it to do 2x/3x cycle. The manufacturer smart enough to route it so it do criss cross pattern on each subsequent cycle. I also never use the hot water function.
- Few things u really need to take care for smooth operation. Arrange furniture away especially chairs around dining table, so it can clean up nicely. Quite a lot of time my robot stuck between legs of chair. And it will still jam if u got lego size toys, or paper on floor or nerf gun bullet. I dont have pet, but i guarantee u it will ais kacang the pet shit into the roller and spread it everywhere while it "clean". You have been warned.
- Also most annoying is the robot will run out of battery even though it's idle after stuck. Need to carry it and park it back to the station.
- the water tank is not big. My routine requires me to top up every alternate day. Or it wont run because "insufficient water". Best if u can top up $$$ do the auto top up installation. cost about 1k last i check, you cannot DIY this cos they include some sensor for the auto top up thing and the wall drilling. I checked.

So far i am very happy with it. No parts broken yet. Battery still okay after 18 months.

thanks, i experience ice kacang b4 on my deebot haha
drive me nuts cleaning up
how come u din use the hot water function?

my L20 ultra no hot water function. lol.

I have another robot bought 2024 12.12 x30ultra model for top room. But i dont use it cos parquet flooring. New model macam downgrade cos smaller water tank. Function all seems no difference to me, tbh i didn't really look into it.

Both model works the same. Same kind of stuck, functioning as intended.

Maybe some days when i got the mood i swap both unit and test run.

Honestly think L10s model 2k+ work good enough compared to those expensive 4k punya. That time both models also second top, the highest one retail for 5k price tag. crazy.

oh alright, and looking at your map im very impressed
so neat unlike my deebot
initially the deebot also clean neat neat lik tht, but they keep updating the firmware until now sometimes it goes circle at the same spot

do u use default to make it that pattern in blue section? or is that a custom setting to make it like that?

My tapo robot clean pattern is more like ur yellow room, it's very similar.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 04:43 PM

It's the blue one only if i set 2x cycle

They actually have the 3x cycle settings but i never try. Main issue i have is the battery. Not enough to cover whole routine for single charge.

oo... yeh i think my tapo link has up to max 3 cycles. i didnt try cause i thought 1 pass is enuff. maybe i will try later, ty

I still have to do some manually at times to remove the hair lodged between the rollers. But maybe once a month? The good thing about master is that it is easy to clean, not much hassle hence I chose it over S8 back then.

Yes, u don't need the top end robots because they obsolete very fast. But if can afford why not right? Haha ..

Seems like dreame has more options compared to roborock. But why does your battery deplete so fast? Usually cleaning my whole house, which is about 850sqft I'll be left with 80% battery.

if ur house so big why not get 2 robot vacuum? then u can split the clean area. this solves the issue of having to wait hours for the robot vacuum to recharge before it resumes cleaning.

the main issue i noticed, if ur robot battery size too small and uses power too fast, it may then want to go to dock to charge backup before resuming again. that's not necessarily a bad thing, but depending on your robot, charging may be fast or slow. mine charges very slow, so that is a big problem. If my job is done for the day since it completed the full clean in one go on a single battery charge, then it doesnt matter if it charges for the rest of the day since it wont be in use either way. the problem is if job is incomplete and it needs to resume on same day, then u have to wait on how fast it can recharge. on budget robots they dont recharge fast

but since my clean area is much smaller, i can do 1 maybe 2 full clean runs without worry of having to go back charge before resume.

there is also a do not disturb mode, so during wee hours i dont think the robot will operate so it will go back dock to charge, then when time expire, it will resume the cleaning operation. i havent managed to test if it really resumes after disturb mode period ends or not.

point is, for smaller home this rv30 max plus battery is a non issue for a full house clean. but bigger home it might be, because to wait for full recharge takes a couple of hours, which is pretty damn long. at that point you may want to consider splitting clean area between 2 vacuum robots instead of just 1


malz not sure why his is draining so fast. but maybe its the settings. by default all the vacuum is set to lowest (probably they can look good in how long the vacuum can operate for. but as soon as u set to max vacuum, that number will dwindle. so as example, if the spec say the robot can operate for 2 hours on the battery, that may be true UNLESS u change the vacuum to max then it will be less). Also he is doing 2 passes so that's gonna take longer to do, so he has to use the battery for longer. maybe thats why his battery is almost exhausted (or even had to dock back to recharge which seems to be the case)


u said u got it for 3k? for that price ok lah. but then when i checked, it was 4k+

if can afford its definitely good, me? i'll wait longer for the price slashes. Some reviews i saw, they were noting how some models quickly got outdated after only 3 months or so. That's how fast these robots development is. So since i already got a robot to cope with, i can wait it out for some good deals, no rush


side note: was wondering about the robot vacuum electricity bill, seems neglible
https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comme..._cleaners_mops/

will see when they bill comes my schedule is set to daily vacuum, and mop once a week. will report back the bill next month i guess

also i noticed when my robot finished cleaning area then moving to the next, it will turn off the vacuum to save power, while traversing through areas its already cleaned, to get to the next room to start vacuuming again. it's very efficient

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 11 2025, 06:35 AM

seems eufy has a new model

eufy RVC Omni E25
https://www.lowyat.net/2025/355412/eufy-rvc...tine-smart-way/








https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comme...e_new_eufy_e25/




can self clean and dry the mop at the dock, supports cleaning fluid which u refill at the dock, has a roller mop design that seems effective and designed in a way as it's mopping it will also clean the mop so less likely to leave any smears on floor when mopping, dock has a dust bag, and the water is separated between dirty waste water and clean water. It also has 2 side brushes. The vacuum roller is a dual roller as well with detangling feature (is the detangle effective? no idea), has mop lifting. if not mistaken those side brushes can extend and also retract to reach corners better. And it says it has AI for obstacle avoidance (most of the new robots have AI now. is it effective? no idea)

for privacy they say. is it good? no idea, but they got the certification for it and addressed this question unlike ecovacs that remained quite when they were questioned about their security issues
https://www.kaspersky.com.au/blog/ecovacs-r...real-life/34514

more review about eufy privacy/data collection policy (note: this video is in reference to their doorbell cams, not robot vacuums. but is useful to see how they treat data collection if any regardless)





did i mention it has 20k pa? wow... seems like lots of robots getting outdated now at a lower price point

Example, Roborock Qrevo Slim Robot Vacuum 11000Pa selling for RM3,759.00, and the Roborock Saros 10 Robot Vacuum 22,000Pa selling for RM5,844. Way more than the Eufy E25 20,000Pa selling price of Rm 2999


what cleaning liquid solution does it use?
https://www.reddit.com/r/eufy/comments/1kqf...ning_solutions/

wow 2 bottles for eufy solution cost $24.99 usd. i didnt even see it listed on shopee only on their eufy website. the bottles are so small so when mopping often, u r gonna be replacing these real fast eufy's own solution already is diluted to be compatible with their robots, so can't u use ur own floor cleaner solution and just dilute it yourself? i have yet to see anyone comment on their solution to this. otherwise you'll just end up using water only

https://www.eufy.com/products/t29C3121?flyi...=42570698686650

they claim it last a long time but i donno. personally i would prefer a diy solution using cheap widely available multi purpose cleaner for tiles and just dilute it with water to be safe enough for use the robot water container. not much info on this other than just use eufy's proprietary solution that cost a lot

the spare parts also for sale on shopee, so its there if u need it but the prices are between like 60-100 so not particularly cheap. the dust bag and roller got china seller, price seems much better for those unofficial sources. not many shops yet, but can always check aliexpress i guess?





basically seems it has most of what you need, and for only RM2,899 on shopee. not sure how much after use vouchers (maybe rm120-150 discount max?). if i am not mistaken, this 3k is an early bird promo price until up to 16th June 2025? at least on their facebook thats what they said
https://www.facebook.com/ankerinnovations.my



seems cheaper than the roborock qrevo master at least but i dont think that lidar is retractable? but the thin profile internal mapping and retractable lidar roborock has for their high end models but those go for 4-5k price range

more discussions on the e25
https://www.reddit.com/r/eufy/comments/1kaj...ad_of_updating/


e25 vs e28


https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comme...get_wait_it_or/

https://vacuumwars.com/eufy-announces-new-r...-cleaner-combo/



so if your budget is rm3k, could this Eufy E25 be the one?


one problem though, does malaysia have a repair center for Eufy? that's what i'm wondering. I know Roborock, ecovacs, dreame, tapo also have service centers locally. As for spare parts? like dust bags, and the parts if need to replace? further research needed. I only investigated for my own robot so far, before i bought (all bases covered so not worried about those things)


i see in the shopee review




but i already bought the same Tapo robot mentioned, so i'm fine as is. but if i wanted to extend my budget up to 3k and wanted better mopping and more hands off maintenance (its not zero maintenance, just less, and easier to cope with), yeah it does seem much better on paper. and the reviewers who had experienced with the tapo i have are also saying this. but that seems to be promo price, probably less attractive once the regular price sets in maybe in 5 years something like this probably be 1-2k range hopefully



tldr:


pros
- eufy e25 on paper seems to have enough features for most people to satisfy
- 3k for promo early bird for midrange robot that does most of what u need for robot vacuum sounds reasonable for this type of features for robot as of 2025 when compared against the competition afaik. if u find anything similar for under 2k, let me know
- mopping and vaccum seem to be good on paper. havent yet heard anyone say its terrible, so must be doing a good job at cleaning
- they upped the game by adding 20,000 Pa for vaccum, when most other older robots still marketing 10,000 Pa or less. is this increase Pa effective or make a huge difference compared to the older robots? no idea (check the reviews)
- dust bags, side brushes and mop replacement have a china seller on shopee. i recommend u check aliexpress to see if its there as well and for cheaper first. if u go through official eufy store for these things, expect to pay more (example, china seller has mop with side brushes for rm50 total for both, but the eufy store want to charge 89 + 99 lel)
i like that it has 2 side brush spinners instead of the typical 1. and these are extending side brushes to reach corners better.
- obstacle avoidance seems effective (refer to the first youtube video). if you leave big stuff on floor like shoes or whatever the robot will avoid them quite well.
- roller de-tangler that seems to actually work (refer to the first youtube video)
- easy maintenance and sufficient enough automation (refer to the first youtube video)

cons
- proprietary floor cleaning liquid solution pricey. also didnt find local availability yet. where to get? any diy solutions to self dilute would that work?
- spare parts expensive. ur not going to need them for a long while but when u do if something breaks, then u'll need to buy the replacement part ya? so check prices if u r wondering
- no local service repair center? at least i couldnt find it listed


*update

noticed the Roborock Qrevo Pro normal price RM2,679.00 is going for a sale discounted price of RM1,924.00 from 8PM, 14 JUNE


so the Roborock Qrevo Pro vs the Eufy E25 during the sale period is about rm1k cheaper, just thought i should mention that.

roborock cleaner solution for 200ml is rm 34. for the 1liter is rm 99







*update

saw a eufy e25 listed for MYR1,725.18 on aliexpress. i believe it to be a scam, it's too good to be true. something is dodgy here. china seller


for spare parts like bag, rollers, side brush etc i saw aliexpress "Rise Vacuum Cleaners Parts Store" sell at a good price. so 1 less issue to worry about. official store too expensive. didnt see hepa filter etc, for those u can use official store, but u rarely going to replace those too often, by then maybe aliexpress has those in stock, since the e25 is a rather new model.


*update

alternate to the eufy e25, on vacuumwars they mentioned mova p10 ultra. but when i checked shopee, only mova p20 ultra was listed. someone from singapore also had a similar question
https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comme..._and_e30_ultra/


on shopee the mova p20 is RM2,775, whereas eufy e25 RM2,899 (there is a voucher for rm100 discount not yet tallied into the listed price) so they are competing directly at a very similar price point

weirdly i could not find any reviews or mentions of the p20 vs p10. recap mova p10 got praised to the sky by vacuum wars for bringing more features for less price than the competition for 2025, so thats what the hype is about for that p10 model. so why is p10 missing and only p20 on shopee? that i have no clue




only thing i could find is the mova website (presumably is the official site i'm guessing) which lists the features and specs for it
https://www.mova.com.my


on mova's about page, seems they started in 2024. so no wonder they r introducing this many features close to under rm3k (at least on shopee) for the Mova P20 Ultra model. give it a few more years and i'm sure the other brands will have to compete on feature/price since at least 2 other brands are bringing in the heat.

buyers guide for mova
https://vacuumwars.com/how-to-select-a-mova...5-buyers-guide/





*update

for 2-3k range there is the Dreame D20 Ultra selling @ rm2,079, it has a lot of features similar to the Eufy E25 but for less by almost rm1k. I did not see any proper review for the D20 Ultra, but seems to be a SEA region product. i would be very reluctant to buy something without a review, so dyor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/commen...a_vs_e30_ultra/

https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comme..._or_dreame_d20/

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 11 2025, 05:33 PM

I got it when it was on promo with shoppee vouchers all stacked lol. I don't see much difference with the robot. I only charge it 6hrs a day coz to clean the whole house it would be left with at least 70% battery. Basically only consumes 30% of my battery.

By the way i asked tplink tapo regarding this article touching on ecovacs security concerns
https://www.kaspersky.com.au/blog/ecovacs-r...real-life/34514

and this was their response if anyone is interested





basically they say something like the tapo rv30 max plus can work offline. but how to set it offline? do i have to toss it into a vlan segment for iot that specifically does not have internet access? or is there a toggle in app to make it operate in an offline manner? that is the part i'm unclear on. But it seems that if u do opt for the vlan segmenting option it would work at the very least.

also in the tapo app for the automation for geo related example, if ur smartphone moves away from the home location, tapo will ask for geo location access. there are a few options, like giving advanced geo location positioning or not. So you have to give access if u want to do stuff like create smart triggers if u leave or arrive at/to home for the robot to do something based on that (it uses your smartphone as the device anchor to detect ur position). So is up to u if u want to use that feature or not

just thought others would be interested to know if u r more security minded and worry about these things.


my current setup is a vlan for guest wifi. so it can only see other devices on that guest wifi and not other machines on a separate private vlan where more sensitive data are stored like truenas it still retains internet access. but the robot isn't that high tech so it doesnt have cams, just only lidar, and no robotic arm so there is limited things it can do wrong. at most, if it does get hacked, it would be segmented out away from other devices limiting the damage. so for me that is sufficient for now.

And it the very worse case scenario, if things go to hell (i dont imagine it will, but if), i can simply power it off and not use it till i have a solution. one possible solution is this
https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/supported-robots.html

but once u flash that, u cannot undo it. so that is a last resort. but at the end of the day i didn't pay much, roughly rm 580, so i'm risking little if in the worse case scenario it becomes a heavy paper weight this is why i didnt want to spend too much on my first robot vacuum. i'm still acclimating so i get a sense of whats good at the lowest budget end, and what features i may need and what price would be appropriate for that. most definitely not 4k+ (not for me anyway)



fyi for the tapo rv30 max plus, clean area floor space 37m2 took 42 minutes to complete the daily clean. Used max vacuum suction. fully automated, didn't even get stuck at all. Once it reached dock to unload to dust bag auto and resume charge, it had about 50% charge left. That is plenty of time from now to tomorrow for it to charge back to 100% So for me with little vacuum area, the battery is more than sufficient. And as time goes, battery wears out, so u can expect the charge to get lesser over the years. So i think it should last for the next 5 years at the very least. Maybe 10 if lucky but by then new vacuums probably much affordable



if there is a big mess, i think for that i will just mop manually those problematic spots only. this robot mop is too basic to deal with that (too afraid it will leave smears all over). anyway that rarely ever happens. But if u want a robot that can handle something like that, then you need a Eufy E25 or something similar to it for the more advanced/effective mopping feature.


cheaper solution?



https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/..._your_roborock/

price for tile cleaning solution MAGICLEAN Floor Cleaner Fresh Floral, rm11 for 2 liter. This is why i said all these other robot proprietary cleanner solutions are pricey because u get little volume and it cost way more

so i'm gonna go with that trick to apply to the mop direct since thats within my budget. i will try tomorrow and report how well it does.




oo review for the tapom rv30 max plus. has voice dub but the review is legit and similar to what i experienced as well



this is my recommendation if u can get it under rm600 (which i did, using shopee vouchers). If for alternatives similar price or up to rm1k, i don't have a good recommendation for that, since i only had experience with this rv30 max plus personally so far. satisfied with it for the price. caveats all mentioned in my previous posts if u r interested.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 12 2025, 07:08 AM

Considering this Tapo RV30 Max Plus. Becos it is quite affordable with a lot of features.

Is it still a good buy in 2025?

Still excellent bang for buck

And I don't care about mop on robot vacuum

Icic. Thanks for the confirmation.

I managed to buy one at Lazada yesterday.

Looking forward to try it out.
Do not want to spend thousands on it while the result may not uncertain.

I just need something basic to keep the floor clean without spending so much $$ and again saving the efforts of manual cleaning.

I bought the RV30 Max Plus which it should be good enough.
Also saw the RV20 Max Plus which is slightly cheaper and more compact in size and wonder if it is better than RV30?

This post has been edited by westlife: Aug 10 2025, 02:24 PM

RV30 is better with the 360 LiDAR system, better accuracy in mapping