Yup, it's the same

park for reference going to buy one soon

Same with me. I'm just looking for a decent robot vacuum with no mopping function.
Would be great to find a robot that vacuums and self-empty at the dock once it's done.

The nearest match I've found is iRobot™ Roomba® i7+.

You can just skip using the mop. Remove that mop pad and just use vacuum from the app

Skip Roomba because they dont use Lidar at all. Its gonna be a mess mapping your house and navigating around

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Dec 14 2023, 03:19 PM

I have an older Ecovacs and recently got the Tapo RV30 Plus

I would say get the a robot vacuum with external dust bag as my older Ecovacs model would get quite clogged after 2-3 cleaning leading to weaker suction power.

The Tapo RV30 Plus is great cause it auto suck everything into the dust bag at the dock after every cleaning session. The internal dustbin at the robot vacuum is almost fully empty so the suction power is perfect every time.

I don’t need to deal with the messy process of cleaning the robot vacuum every week after switching to this. The dust bag is super easy to replace. Only downside is the cost of replacing the dust bag every 2-3 months.

Old old Ecovacs comes with LiDAR and this new one is pretty much the same. Perhaps it’s a little faster.

Aaahhh... this is good info! I've read a lots of reviews but the authors never mentioned this.

Yeah, for the price iRobot selling their Roomba, there's no LiDAR. 1 of the reviews said that the Roomba needs a bit longer time to "learn" compared to competitors brands that have the LiDAR function.

For my case (Dreame L10S Ultra) this is workable. I'm not sure about other brands, maybe there's some brands that dont allow the robot to be used unless the mop pad is attached

But i am pretty sure almost all apps provide you the option to vacuum only

Waaahhh.... I was also eyeing this brand (as well as Roborock and other brands) during the Shopee 12.12 sales...

RoboRock S8 MaxV Ultra

The S8 MaxV Ultra is Roborock’s most intelligent hybrid robot vacuum and mop. It automates the entire cleaning process as it navigates each room and dodges obstacles. The robot automatically returns to its compact docking station to empty its dirt bin, refill its mop, and charge up its battery. On top of that, the base cleans itself and washes the mop with hot water then a blow dry to ensure everything is clean and prevent odors. This Roborock variant can even be connected directly to plumbing pipes to provide the robot with clean water and drainage without you having to fill up and empty tanks.

Roborock's built-in AI powers a voice assistant, uses cameras to recognize messes then adjusts its cleaning settings, and avoids obstacles without relying on another device or the internet. Plus it supports the Matter protocol to work with any smart home ecosystem going forward. Hell, this gadget can even cruise around your house to act as a security camera or take video calls while you're away from home. But it's the S8 Max V's FlexiArm robotic arm that steals the show. This side brush extends and cleans corners effectively, while paired with a spinning side mop that will clean near edges. Corners and edges are the most challenging areas for robot vacuums to deep clean.

The S8 MaxV Ultra will be available from Roborock for $1,800 this April.

Eufy Clean X10 Pro Omni

Eufy's 2-in-1 x10 Pro Omni robot vacuum packs powerful suction and plenty of mopping pressure to tackle messes that range from fine powder like flour to breaking up mud caked onto your flooring. Its new pentagon-shaped body and mopping pads rotate 360 degrees and are designed to fit tight corners. This flagship model also has its own maintenance base complete with a mop washer and dryer.

With that said, the x10 Pro Omni is stacked with self-care features and implements cutting-edge smart navigation and AI mapping for half the price of the Roborock above. Its "See Smart Obstacle Avoidance" technology recognizes over 100 different kinds of household objects, including toys, cables, shoes and even dog poop accurately. That's because it's powered by the same algorithm used by the car industry's autonomous driving technology. Additionally, the LED sensor ensures a smooth, accurate clean even when operating in dark or low-light rooms.

Although simple, one of the x10 Pro Omni's exciting new app features allows you to set up cleaning profiles. One example eufy showed off is "after dinner cleaning" whereby the robovac automatically cleans one particular area of the home, like a kitchen or dining room at a scheduled time. The Eufy X10 Pro Omni will be available on Amazon and Eufy.com on February 20, 2024 for $799.99.

Narwal Freo X Ultra

Narwal's new flagship Freo X Ultra is a smart robot vacuum and mop that's powerful yet operates quietly. Its 3.2L capacity can compress up to 60 days of dust inside of the vacuum itself. This is potentially going to be one of the best robot vacuums for pet owners due to its Zero-Tangling Floating Brush which captures 95% of hair without getting tangled up. Thanks to its aerodynamic engineering the brush strategically positions each strand to create airflows that prevent tangles.

The Freo's onboard computer uses AI to power Narwal's DirtSense technology. This monitors water usage during mopping to identify heavily soiled areas on the home map. DirtSense tells the robovac to repeatedly hit these spots and can assess its performance based on the cleanliness level of the water. The robot thoroughly mops down troublesome areas until DirtSense sees the water readings improve.

The Narwal Freo X Plus ($469) has many of the same features as the X Ultra, save for the self-cleaning base station. Both models will be released on Narwal.com in March.

Eureka J20

Eureka’s RollRenew Mopping System continuously keeps the Eureka J20 robot vacuum fresh while it cleans your floors. This technology works by spraying the mop with fresh water from five nozzles. While this keeps mops sopping wet, the scraper squeezes out the dirty water into an integrated 250ml wastewater tank — so that once the mop passes over your dirty floors, its surface comes back as clean as when it started.

This ingenious cycling belt and water tank system keeps the J20 wet yet clean at all times so that it can wash your entire floor. While it lacks cameras, the J20's precise laser navigation lets the vacuum quickly comprehend your home's layout and detect obstacles with ease. If your home has carpet the bot has an advanced ultrasonic carpet detection system that flips the mop over to a non-fabric side. Once it returns to its all-in-one base station its integrated ventilation system uses a built-in fan to ensure air circulation to keep it clean and prevent odor buildup.

The Eureka J20's release information and pricing will be available later this year.

Deebot X2

The Deebot X2 Combo is Ecovac's first whole-home cleaning system that adds a handheld vacuum (with upholstery and multi-surface attachments) to the X2 OMNI robot vacuum, mop, and auto-empty station. This combines a closet's worth of cleaning tools into a single gadget to save space in your home. Unlike standard robot vacuums, the X2 ditches a round profile for a square design for edge-to-edge cleaning precision that covers 99.8% more ground surface in a single job.

Its 8000Pa suction power rips through dirt and debris while the mop can scrub stains away and lift from hard floors to carpet. The X2 COMBO boasts all of the X2 OMNI’s navigation and smart home features, including an embedded navigation system for a greater range of motion, fast mapping, and faster response times. Its "True Detect 3D 2.0" technology scans and precisely avoids obstacles in your room. And like the Roborock it has a responsive voice control system and other smart home capabilities.

With Matter 1.2 now available, the X2 COMBO will be Matter-ready out of the box, so it will work with any smart home ecosystem once certified. You can get the Deebot X2 Combo for $1,599 in March.

DreameBot X30 Ultra

This robot vacuum prioritizes convenience above all else with its 7-in-1 function self-cleaning base station and option for a home water hookup. Its two built-in scrapers clean the base station as it enters and exits the dock. Meanwhile, the mop is washed and dried with hot air after each job.

Designed to be nimble and fit under step edges and doorframes, the DreameBot x30 has an expansive FlexArm that reaches as far as 4cm deep into nooks and crannies for a more thorough clean. The X30 Ultra uses intelligent 3D mapping and path planning smart navigation technology to create an efficient, customized cleaning route for every room. Built-in sensors work continuously while the robot moves to detect and avoid up to 70 types of obstacles, including cables, shoes and pets.

The compact X30 Ultra will be available for pre-order starting Feb. 28, 2024, in the U.S. via Dreame's official website and Dreame's official Amazon store with prices beginning at $1,699.99.

Samsung Bespoke Jet Bot Combo

Samsung's Bespoke Jet Bot Combo is the company's first all-in-one floor washer that uses on-board AI to identify floor types, avoid objects, and spot stains on your hard floor or carpet. Once it’s detected a stain on a hard floor, it’ll travel back to its cleaning station to warm up its mop pads with high-temperature steam and water before returning to the mess. This heat pairs with high-speed spinning mops to scrub off the toughest of grime.

Once the AI detects carpets it automatically lifts the mop's attachments or removes and stores them back at the base. The self-emptying and cleaning charging base not only refills the bots tank but also steam washes the mops to keep them clean and prevent odors. Plus it also cleans and dries the mop as well.

This model is still in development with features subject to change. Its current model the JetBot AI+ retails for $1,300 for reference but lacks mopping capabilities.

Source: 7 best robot vacuums of CES 2024

sry necro back old thread.



how tapo rv30 plus serve you till today?
do you still recommend to get this model or got any better option out there?

Great but FYI I don’t bother using mopping function on robot vacuum

I’m using it to purely remove surface dust and debris on daily basis and it’s amazing for this use case

Suction power is strong and the auto empty dock means I don’t need to clean the RV every week

For condo, it takes approximately 5 months for the bag to be full with daily use

Of course it’s not as advanced as those 3-4K robot vacuum but those are better mainly for the mopping function and they are still not great at mopping floors.

I am looking this model too and shopee sells 1799...

Hii guys, can anyone recommend best robot mop vacuum without dustbag?

what do u guys think about the TP-Link tapo RV30 Max Plus?

price with voucher comes down to RM586

Is that a good deal?


Not expecting perfection, just a passable robot vacuum at a steal to get me through the years while waiting for budget vacuums that can get decent enough stuff and they worked out the kinks.


yes there is some manual maintenance to do, on their product page there is a bunch of youtube to show you how to do it, so they dont leave you hanging.

1. mop pad have to manually clean or it will drag the dirt around. so i think after each clean cycle, u should clean it. So have a spare mop pad while u do that

2. the hepa filter seems to be washable. clean it now and then. so doubt u have to replace this often. but if u do, there are spart parts available for purchase for an affordable price, so no issue there.

3. if there is blockage in the pipe, they also have a video for that. not sure how often u clean that, but the video demonstrates how easy to do it if need to, like a tissue blocking the hole or something.

4. and u have to untangle any hairs caught in the roller.




obstacle detection for it according to online seem almost non existent (bumper cars mode basically), so u have to move things out of the way prior to running the clean mode.

charging takes 3-4 hours or so? it can operate for 1-2 hours or something.

It can climb at an angle somewhat if moving between rooms that aren't quite flat, but not too steep I suppose.




anyway just wondering, would u buy this at this price? or is there something better for the mop and with obstacle avoidance for same or slightly higher price?


Someone reported a minor revision?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tapo/comments/1kri...elift_hardware/



Vacuumwars doesn't mention rv30 max plus, but this does

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-robot-vacuums

It rated it best budget robo vacuum 2025


Oo noticed Tubi added to his blog. in the forum he mention rv30, but in blog seems he updated to rv30 max plus which is what i just ordered as well

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/tapo-rv30-max-plus/

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 7 2025, 04:01 PM

the rv30 has one without the dock. so i think those are bagless, so u have to empty from the container on the robot itself.

the rv30 max plus, this one comes with a dock which the vacuum fills into the dock where a bag is installed. it auto seals when removed.

but there is a trick where u can intercept the robot before it docks, so u can empty it out without using the bag (but then if that is the case, may as well get the dockless model)


for myself i see the price for the bag is cheap, and someone quoted can last up to a year (probly less if u have pets). so the cost for bag to me is fine, but i would understand if u want a bagless design robot vacuum

I have a Xiaomi S10+ bought last year, nothing fancy but very happy with it since it replaces manual work

But both water tank and dust bag and mops pads all need manually change

I am eyeing one for myself that would last 10 years, how much should my budget be at the very least?

Saw a Xiaomi x10+ going for rm 1k. So almost double the rv30 max plus.

But what u get ai and obstacle avoidance. Is it effective? Don't know.

It also has 2 rotating mop pads

how much u paid for it? 1k+ ?

how well did the AI object avoidance worked for it?

did u have to move objects from floor before letting the vacuum work, or was ok to leave it be and the vacuum will avoid running over stuff?


according to reviews, seems like the rv30 max plus is the kind that will ram stuff over an d be obnoxious because it doesn't quite do object detection well or at all?

so was wondering how the S10+ fares in that regard?

Also it has a spin mop right? how effective is it for mopping?





This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 8 2025, 10:10 AM

I'll say even lidar object avoidance sucks. I have a qrevo master from roborock. It works fine but not perfect for sure.

Don't expect clean clean if u use vac and mop at the same time. There might be hair strands on the floor at times.