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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 8 2025, 10:43 AM)
I'll say even lidar object avoidance sucks. I have a qrevo master from roborock. It works fine but not perfect for sure.

Don't expect clean clean if u use vac and mop at the same time. There might be hair strands on the floor at times.
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Actually I was wondering about this.

So is it better to do vacuum first without mop pad. Then let it run again with mop pad on 2nd run? Would that work 🤔

Fyi my rv30 max plus arriving today so hope my experience is sufficiently good 😅

I see that Tubi doesn't even use the mop feature. But I need it though. As long as it works more or less that will be good enuff for me. If got dirty cake hard to clean, I can just do that manually(rarely happens). Just a light mop with cleaning fluid for tiles is sufficient in addition to vacuum 😊

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Guys, is this type of robot vacuum cleaner noisy ? Thinking to buy those cheap Xiaomi robots to try but worry about the noise level
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post Jun 8 2025, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 8 2025, 10:50 AM)
Actually I was wondering about this.

So is it better to do vacuum first without mop pad. Then let it run again with mop pad on 2nd run? Would that work 🤔

Fyi my rv30 max plus arriving today so hope my experience is sufficiently good 😅

I see that Tubi doesn't even use the mop feature. But I need it though. As long as it works more or less that will be good enuff for me. If got dirty cake hard to clean, I can just do that manually(rarely happens). Just a light mop with cleaning fluid for tiles is sufficient in addition to vacuum 😊
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Yes should separate vacuum and mopping if you wan it to be cleaner. With moist on, it would be harder for the robot to vac them off from the floor. I am not sure if your robot has the option for 2x. Mine does. So usually I would vac+mop the area 2x .. that would keep the floor very clean. I don't have to separate them. I have kid that dirties the floor daily with food. But the robot works well for my case. 1x cleaning is sufficient if you clean daily. I do 2x on weekend when no one is around.


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post Jun 8 2025, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 8 2025, 05:20 PM)
Guys, is this type of robot vacuum cleaner noisy ? Thinking to buy those cheap Xiaomi robots to try but worry about the noise level
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Depending on your suction. To me at 10k pa .. I don't think it's too loud. If cheap one usually around 6k? Should be fine. I let my robot clean at night when I'm sleeping.
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 8 2025, 05:20 PM)
Guys, is this type of robot vacuum cleaner noisy ? Thinking to buy those cheap Xiaomi robots to try but worry about the noise level
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which model specifically?



not saying get this one (since i think the rv30 max plus is better), but as an example u can hear how loud it is. if u go to product page they show the decibel volume for the noise.

in the app u can set a silent mode. i saw from 60-65 became like 55-60db? is that quiet enuff?


i wouldnt schedule it during the wee hours, put it that way

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 8 2025, 06:14 PM)
Yes should separate vacuum and mopping if you wan it to be cleaner. With moist on, it would be harder for the robot to vac them off from the floor. I am not sure if your robot has the option for 2x. Mine does. So usually I would vac+mop the area 2x .. that would keep the floor very clean. I don't have to separate them. I have kid that dirties the floor daily with food. But the robot works well for my case. 1x cleaning is sufficient if you clean daily. I do 2x on weekend when no one is around.
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i just setup and updating firmware. at the bottom it says dont use cleaner fluid because will corrode the water tank. so how?

Does that mean can use water only nothing else? sad.gif i was hoping to use something like magiclean fluid which is good on tiles, but now i'm not sure i can shocking.gif

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I bought both Tapo RV10 and RV30 used for less than 1k together just to try out.

Overall, the RV10 is simply too stupid. It committed suicide by going down the staircase and spilled it's guts out.

The RV30 was slightly smarter but will never learn of new area unless reset the whole unit to factory default.

For example, if an area was previously unavailable during the initial learning process, it will avoid it. But after the area was available, it still refused to relearn. If reset to factory default then ok.
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ok the robot vacuum is now mapping. when i got it, the battery had roughly 60-70% charge already.

wow.. it just rushed into a bunch of ethernet and optical fibre wires. worried LEL biggrin.gif

ok i had to rescue it. to be fair those cables were a mess, so i wont blame it for that laugh.gif i'll sort that out later.

kitchen was too steep. to be fair the spec did say 22mm or something. so can only do half of the kitchen, not the other side.


as it's mapping, i can see it moving on the tapa app map. it's very intuitive. and when it gets stuck (2 times so far, both times my fault sweat.gif ) it will tell u, then u can go rescue it.

good thing there is geo fencing so i can block problematic areas it gets stuck. without that, i dont see how this would be usable. but it is, thk god laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 8 2025, 07:19 PM)
i just setup and updating firmware. at the bottom it says dont use cleaner fluid because will corrode the water tank. so how?

Does that mean can use water only nothing else?  sad.gif i was hoping to use something like magiclean fluid which is good on tiles, but now i'm not sure i can  shocking.gif
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I don't care though .. haha I just use whatever I have. Using water only may not be too clean? Just use whatever u have ba .. robot will likely last you around 2 to 4 years at most. So don't be bothered.
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 8 2025, 07:31 PM)
I don't care though .. haha I just use whatever I have. Using water only may not be too clean? Just use whatever u have ba .. robot will likely last you around 2 to 4 years at most. So don't be bothered.
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like this, i can do a mop with a mop manually, then later the robot do it with water. i dont have to do a particularly good job, just only add the cleaning fluid to the floor, the robot will mop it with water, problem solved.

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 8 2025, 07:32 PM)
like this, i can do a mop with a mop manually, then later the robot do it with water. i dont have to do a particularly good job, just only add the cleaning fluid to the floor, the robot will mop it with water, problem solved.
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Haha .. if ure ok with that .. why not. I'm just too lazy. So I'll let my robot do everything.
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hm... for cleaning vacuum, not as good as i had hoped.

i sus i have to tune the vacuum to go turbo mode. i have to do once it finishes it's first clean. still going through the settings. but using as is, i dont think the suction is strong enough to pull in the dirt.

also my mistake adding the mop attachment. i thought removing the mop pad was enough (it isnt). Got to remove the mop pad attachment as well, cause it has a sticky part where the rugs get hooked :/

it's still day one, i'll give it a week or a month before i decide sweat.gif



noise volume not that high. but i think cause i did not max out the fan yet.

*spoke too soon. when the vacuum wants to dock cause finish clean, the auto unload to the bay, that one really noisy (like a typical vacuum cleaner volume level). 99.9% of time the volume when not dock unloading was fine though, so no big deal. But dont run this at wee hours if u got neighbors laugh.gif


other things i noticed,

when i do manual clean, i dont see where u can adjust the vacuum pressure, and the water levels for mop. i had to setup a scheduler, and from then only i can see


few observation

1. default vacuum fan though quiet, doesnt seem to suck enough. but if u set max, it is very loud, keep that in mind. anyway i think max should be effective. turbo? not sure

2. if u not mopping, DO NOT use the mop attachment. even if u remove only mop pad, its not enuff. i made a mistake.

3. during initial mapping, expect it to get stuck. once u identify what the stuck issue is, u MAY or MAY not have to add a geo fence to block vacuum from going to those problematic areas.

4. full clean at default vacuum suction, it took 30-50% of the battery charge.


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5. it tries to get by with 1 spinner, but feels like 2 would be better. but its understandable why thats the case, since its a budget model, they only give u a taste to so u buy a better model. but this is tapos highest model, any plans for more premium?

6. yes vacuum max does better but not all the way. the more premium vacuums can do double or more the vacuum suction. any big impact for cleaaning? no idea. but regardless it can suck, just not a deep clean. but i would its good enuff.

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jun 8 2025, 07:19 PM)
I bought both Tapo RV10 and RV30 used for less than 1k together just to try out.

Overall, the RV10 is simply too stupid. It committed suicide by going down the staircase and spilled it's guts out.

The RV30 was slightly smarter but will never learn of new area unless reset the whole unit to factory default.

For example, if an area was previously unavailable during the initial learning process, it will avoid it. But after the area was available, it still refused to relearn. If reset to factory default then ok.
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Try unlocking you learnt map. Map will auto lock after some time. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 8 2025, 08:39 PM)
hm... for cleaning vacuum, not as good as i had hoped.

i sus i have to tune the vacuum to go turbo mode. i have to do once it finishes it's first clean. still going through the settings. but using as is, i dont think the suction is strong enough to pull in the dirt.

also my mistake adding the mop attachment. i thought removing the mop pad was enough (it isnt). Got to remove the mop pad attachment as well, cause it has a sticky part where the rugs get hooked :/

it's still day one, i'll give it a week or a month before i decide  sweat.gif
noise volume not that high. but i think cause i did not max out the fan yet.

*spoke too soon. when the vacuum wants to dock cause finish clean, the auto unload to the bay, that one really noisy (like a typical vacuum cleaner volume level). 99.9% of time the volume when not dock unloading was fine though, so no big deal. But dont run this at wee hours if u got neighbors  laugh.gif
other things i noticed,

when i do manual clean, i dont see where u can adjust the vacuum pressure, and the water levels for mop. i had to setup a scheduler, and from then only i can see
few observation

1. default vacuum fan though quiet, doesnt seem to suck enough. but if u set max, it is very loud, keep that in mind. anyway i think max should be effective. turbo? not sure

2. if u not mopping, DO NOT use the mop attachment. even if u remove only mop pad, its not enuff. i made a mistake.

3. during initial mapping, expect it to get stuck. once u identify what the stuck issue is, u MAY or MAY not have to add a geo fence to block vacuum from going to those problematic areas.
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I guess you get what you pay ba .. haha

I don't have such issue wit mine. Pretty much let it go auto mode and let it clean. Return to dock to clean the pad, back to work.

It is usually worth to spend more for better robot if you don't want the hassle. But don't expect you pay top notch the robot is perfect. Just that it serves better for avoidance. Even with rbg camera the avoidance may not be perfect. If you're paying for lidar only .. expect it to keep banging here and there.
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 9 2025, 12:10 AM)
I guess you get what you pay ba .. haha

I don't have such issue wit mine. Pretty much let it go auto mode and let it clean. Return to dock to clean the pad, back to work.

It is usually worth to spend more for better robot if you don't want the hassle. But don't expect you pay top notch the robot is perfect. Just that it serves better for avoidance. Even with rbg camera the avoidance may not be perfect. If you're paying for lidar only .. expect it to keep banging here and there.
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Some spots where it got stuck was under couch. So had to geo fence.

Few things I see u can pay more for that this model could have done better

1 better obstacle detection. Ai. Privacy issue? Not sure

2 better mopping e.g dual mop vibrator , retractable mop pad

3. Tangle free, dual roller

4. Automated self clean for mop pad

5. Better climbing. This can climb, just not high enough for what I require


Even if get older model I think those cost 2-4 times the price I paid for this. At least minimum rm 1k +

For this tapo, it would be worth it at this price if it can do decent enough vacuum. But still undecided on that since still testing. For mopping water only doesn't cut it. So will let vacuum robot vacuum first, then do a regular quick manual mop to add the floor cleaner solution, then let the vacuum do mop with water after that. For deep clean can do manual for tough spots, no big deal


For the app the tapo app is like a general all in 1 app for all their tapo devices. Despite that, they got sub sections in it for robot vacuum. Seemed to have ample settings for vacuum. Didn't see many major issues other than the fact they force u to sign in to TP-Link user account and use cloud with internet. It had good mapping and tracking where the robot was on the map

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 8 2025, 06:15 PM)
Depending on your suction. To me at 10k pa .. I don't think it's too loud. If cheap one usually around 6k? Should be fine. I let my robot clean at night when I'm sleeping.
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Good idea 💡 let it clean at night. Never thought of that before

QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 8 2025, 06:53 PM)
which model specifically?



not saying get this one (since i think the rv30 max plus is better), but as an example u can hear how loud it is. if u go to product page they show the decibel volume for the noise.

in the app u can set a silent mode. i saw from 60-65 became like 55-60db? is that quiet enuff?
i wouldnt schedule it during the wee hours, put it that way
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I'm looking at the one with mopping function but worry the water will short circuit the robot in long period of time usage. Do you think the water will cause the robot to short circuit if the water leak due to wear & tear usage ?
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Few contenders vs the rv30 max plus in the rm 600 - 1k price bracket. If u got other suggestions what is competitive in this price range, feel free to share

roborock q5 pro, Xiaomi s20+, iLife t20s

Roborock and Xiaomi no dock for auto unload. The tapo and iLife do

But both the roborock and Xiaomi have better rollers



Very good explanation for the roborock here

https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/..._max_vs_q5_pro/

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Any Q5 or Q8 aren't serious moppers. They are more water distributors and dirt draggers. No chance on the rug in the living room, because it cannot lift the mop to do vaccuum-only in that area. Serious mopping with carpet detection and mop wash starts with Qrevo, although the revo lineup except for the top end Master are single rollers.

If you consider mopping the traditional way, Q5 Pro/Max+ is a nice machine. If you want some basic obstacle detection, consider the Q8 Max+, also a dual roller.

Apart from that, any recent Roborock of Q or S lineup (so except for E) has superior navigation compared to your previous bots.
special mention, Narwal Freo X Plus

the mop is similar to rv30 max plus (barebones). Also doesnt have a waste unload dock station. but it has a better roller that is tangle proof *supposedly, and has 2 of those small sweepers instead of just 1. if not mistaken, security wise, the narwals store on the chip? rather than cloud. I can't verify since i dont own one, but somebody else said this is the case. Price? i think rm1k ish? but not sure since the shopee store is down cause the seller on holiday doh.gif



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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 9 2025, 06:20 AM)
I'm looking at the one with mopping function but worry the water will short circuit the robot in long period of time usage. Do you think the water will cause the robot to short circuit if the water leak due to wear & tear usage ?
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Probly not best person to ask this since I'm new myself. First robot here.

That said I didn't hear about short circuit. Just fill water in tank properly without splashing and if do, simply just wipe it off with cloth any minor spills. Then attach to the robot.

The only warning I've seen is, not to use detergent in the water tank as it says it can damage it. Maybe more premium robot can handle but I don't know since I don't have 1

I didn't get the chance yet to try the mop feature for my rv30 max plus. But from the looks of it, it's really basic, water only. Not even a vibrator or dual rotating mop. The serious moppers cost a lot more.

But even tubi said those aren't quite great yet either, this is y I was reluctant to pay so much until the tech is more matured

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 9 2025, 02:51 AM)
Some spots where it got stuck was under couch. So had to geo fence.

Few things I see u can pay more for that this model could have done better

1 better obstacle detection. Ai. Privacy issue? Not sure

2 better mopping e.g dual mop vibrator , retractable mop pad

3. Tangle free, dual roller

4. Automated self clean for mop pad

5. Better climbing. This can climb, just not high enough for what I require
Even if get older model I think those cost 2-4 times the price I paid for this. At least minimum rm 1k +

For this tapo, it would be worth it at this price if it can do decent enough vacuum. But still undecided on that since still testing. For mopping water only doesn't cut it. So will let vacuum robot vacuum first, then do a regular quick manual mop to add the floor cleaner solution, then let the vacuum do mop with water after that. For deep clean can do manual for tough spots, no big deal
For the app the tapo app is like a general all in 1 app for all their tapo devices. Despite that, they got sub sections in it for robot vacuum. Seemed to have ample settings for vacuum. Didn't see many major issues other than the fact they force u to sign in to TP-Link user account and use cloud with internet. It had good mapping and tracking where the robot was on the map
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If you're using it for vacuum only. I think all robots are decent enuf to do it. You usually pay more for the mopping part.

Mine has all the functions you described above. It does it job. I don't have to do much manually aside from discarding the waste water and refilling the clean water.

I would say it's pretty worth it to invest a better version if it's gonna be your bread and butter.
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 9 2025, 06:20 AM)
Good idea 💡 let it clean at night. Never thought of that before
I'm looking at the one with mopping function but worry the water will short circuit the robot in long period of time usage. Do you think the water will cause the robot to short circuit if the water leak due to wear & tear usage ?
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I flooded my kitchen once and used my robot to clean it. It made it worse at first by spreading more water to other parts of the kitchen. Then it returned to it's dock to clean the mop and continued cleaning. That's where the real moping starts.

No issue so far. If you wan a robot that can get the job done without hassle. Do consider investing a better one.

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