how well did the AI object avoidance worked for it?
did u have to move objects from floor before letting the vacuum work, or was ok to leave it be and the vacuum will avoid running over stuff? according to reviews, seems like the rv30 max plus is the kind that will ram stuff over an d be obnoxious because it doesn't quite do object detection well or at all?
so was wondering how the S10+ fares in that regard?
Also it has a spin mop right? how effective is it for mopping?
I'll say even lidar object avoidance sucks. I have a qrevo master from roborock. It works fine but not perfect for sure.
Don't expect clean clean if u use vac and mop at the same time. There might be hair strands on the floor at times.
So is it better to do vacuum first without mop pad. Then let it run again with mop pad on 2nd run? Would that work 🤔
Fyi my rv30 max plus arriving today so hope my experience is sufficiently good 😅
I see that Tubi doesn't even use the mop feature. But I need it though. As long as it works more or less that will be good enuff for me. If got dirty cake hard to clean, I can just do that manually(rarely happens). Just a light mop with cleaning fluid for tiles is sufficient in addition to vacuum 😊
Yes should separate vacuum and mopping if you wan it to be cleaner. With moist on, it would be harder for the robot to vac them off from the floor. I am not sure if your robot has the option for 2x. Mine does. So usually I would vac+mop the area 2x .. that would keep the floor very clean. I don't have to separate them. I have kid that dirties the floor daily with food. But the robot works well for my case. 1x cleaning is sufficient if you clean daily. I do 2x on weekend when no one is around.
Guys, is this type of robot vacuum cleaner noisy ? Thinking to buy those cheap Xiaomi robots to try but worry about the noise level
Depending on your suction. To me at 10k pa .. I don't think it's too loud. If cheap one usually around 6k? Should be fine. I let my robot clean at night when I'm sleeping.
i just setup and updating firmware. at the bottom it says dont use cleaner fluid because will corrode the water tank. so how?
Does that mean can use water only nothing else? i was hoping to use something like magiclean fluid which is good on tiles, but now i'm not sure i can
I don't care though .. haha I just use whatever I have. Using water only may not be too clean? Just use whatever u have ba .. robot will likely last you around 2 to 4 years at most. So don't be bothered.
like this, i can do a mop with a mop manually, then later the robot do it with water. i dont have to do a particularly good job, just only add the cleaning fluid to the floor, the robot will mop it with water, problem solved.
Haha .. if ure ok with that .. why not. I'm just too lazy. So I'll let my robot do everything.
hm... for cleaning vacuum, not as good as i had hoped.
i sus i have to tune the vacuum to go turbo mode. i have to do once it finishes it's first clean. still going through the settings. but using as is, i dont think the suction is strong enough to pull in the dirt.
also my mistake adding the mop attachment. i thought removing the mop pad was enough (it isnt). Got to remove the mop pad attachment as well, cause it has a sticky part where the rugs get hooked :/
it's still day one, i'll give it a week or a month before i decide noise volume not that high. but i think cause i did not max out the fan yet.
*spoke too soon. when the vacuum wants to dock cause finish clean, the auto unload to the bay, that one really noisy (like a typical vacuum cleaner volume level). 99.9% of time the volume when not dock unloading was fine though, so no big deal. But dont run this at wee hours if u got neighbors other things i noticed,
when i do manual clean, i dont see where u can adjust the vacuum pressure, and the water levels for mop. i had to setup a scheduler, and from then only i can see few observation
1. default vacuum fan though quiet, doesnt seem to suck enough. but if u set max, it is very loud, keep that in mind. anyway i think max should be effective. turbo? not sure
2. if u not mopping, DO NOT use the mop attachment. even if u remove only mop pad, its not enuff. i made a mistake.
3. during initial mapping, expect it to get stuck. once u identify what the stuck issue is, u MAY or MAY not have to add a geo fence to block vacuum from going to those problematic areas.
I guess you get what you pay ba .. haha
I don't have such issue wit mine. Pretty much let it go auto mode and let it clean. Return to dock to clean the pad, back to work.
It is usually worth to spend more for better robot if you don't want the hassle. But don't expect you pay top notch the robot is perfect. Just that it serves better for avoidance. Even with rbg camera the avoidance may not be perfect. If you're paying for lidar only .. expect it to keep banging here and there.
5. Better climbing. This can climb, just not high enough for what I require Even if get older model I think those cost 2-4 times the price I paid for this. At least minimum rm 1k +
For this tapo, it would be worth it at this price if it can do decent enough vacuum. But still undecided on that since still testing. For mopping water only doesn't cut it. So will let vacuum robot vacuum first, then do a regular quick manual mop to add the floor cleaner solution, then let the vacuum do mop with water after that. For deep clean can do manual for tough spots, no big deal For the app the tapo app is like a general all in 1 app for all their tapo devices. Despite that, they got sub sections in it for robot vacuum. Seemed to have ample settings for vacuum. Didn't see many major issues other than the fact they force u to sign in to TP-Link user account and use cloud with internet. It had good mapping and tracking where the robot was on the map
If you're using it for vacuum only. I think all robots are decent enuf to do it. You usually pay more for the mopping part.
Mine has all the functions you described above. It does it job. I don't have to do much manually aside from discarding the waste water and refilling the clean water.
I would say it's pretty worth it to invest a better version if it's gonna be your bread and butter.
Good idea 💡 let it clean at night. Never thought of that before I'm looking at the one with mopping function but worry the water will short circuit the robot in long period of time usage. Do you think the water will cause the robot to short circuit if the water leak due to wear & tear usage ?
I flooded my kitchen once and used my robot to clean it. It made it worse at first by spreading more water to other parts of the kitchen. Then it returned to it's dock to clean the mop and continued cleaning. That's where the real moping starts.
No issue so far. If you wan a robot that can get the job done without hassle. Do consider investing a better one.
just an update 1. i redid mapping. but at some point it kinda got lost in a room and couldnt get back to base station. so i had to lift it up, check the underside, then put it back down. then it got back.
2. at base station, felt like it was not charging though it said it was. so i resitted the base station then let it try to dock again, which it did. cleared app cache then waited few minutes. it changed from 41 to 42% it is charging albeit slowly. i see on forum somme users for tapo rv30 plus (not max, but they are probably similar enough) were also reporting dock recharging issues
will try resit the base so it's more flat against the wall. it's in a slightly tight space with a short cable to power plug, so it's at a slight angle. the robot does not like that since it wastes time trying to turn to angle it properly before it makes contact. Ps: notice the front sensor had the plastic removable thin strip still attached, so i removed. that may have messed up the sensors previously and i didnt notice. i also fix the base station so its properly flat against the wall with room on both sides so the robot can reverse park into it. it did it in 1-2 tries so thats as good as it gets *update
ok i think charging is ok. i'll just time it to be sure it's charging within spec. previously i think it was a loose contact due to base station positioning. u wanna make sure u get that right.
Are you too pedantic or the robot itself is bad?
But maybe I'll share mine so far on a better robot.
Basically, I have no issue with any of the problems that you have mentioned. Just a little bumping from time to time but object avoidance is pretty much good overall. Cleaning, I do get quite clean floor with vac and mopping, unless the stain is badly ingrained onto the floor where strength is required to remove it. It will always be able to find it's dock even when I shift it away. Self cleaning, etc. I don't bother cleaning my house on my own nowadays since I got the robot. It pretty much do a good job. Only refill and discard the waste.
Can you recommend me the brand you're using, how much is it?
I am using roborock after doing my research. The model that I'm currently using qrevo master. Iinm it has been discontinued and replaced by qrevo curve. If you're willing to spend more. Get saros10.
Well do u think robot circling for 15 minutes trying to dock is considered normal? If u think that's ok, then I'm speechless 😅
Anyway after remap (set dock nicely first to avoid potential issues. Also during remap, pause to set no go zones identified on first try, then resume), did first clean, but not enough juice so it had to charge before resuming. All normal till the end, but when it tried to go back dock it couldn't go the normal route it went before, so after a while it decided to zip through the block zone. It got through without getting stuck so I give that a pass. Then it docked without issue. So this time it was ok from beginning to end with some minor hi hiccups. Did not get stuck or tangle issues. Was completely hands free. At that point lock map.
For the clean out of a 10 score, I give it a 8.5 for vacuum. For mop 6
Mop got lower score cause I had to manual mop to add cleaner fluid to floor first, before letting the robot do a pass using mop and plain water.
The end result no smears detected, floor is clean. Vacuum at max suction picked up 85/90%
After job done, have to do check up to empty water tank, check the roller to clean, mop also clean. Not gonna clean mop everyday, so gonna remove mop attachment and do it at least weekly, but rest of the days just regular vacuum
I haven't had it long enuff so I'll withold my recommendation for now. But so far so good.
To fix just had to
- check sensors has all the plastic stickers removed - position dock properly before mapping and don't move it later
- in map editor , add furniture, mat, no go zones. Give the robot as much info to help it navigate
- after first clean, lock map So overall satisfied *Update
Setting room clean order is important. Personally I order small rooms first, and big room last. I wouldn't recommend simply just do a clean all without setting a room order but to each their own.
Definitely not normal. Mine will easily detect its dock and parks it even with obstruction. No remapping since day 1. Also I get to set 2 different maps. Maybe downstairs and upstairs. It will get things done by itself without mapping again.
Dam so manual .. haha .. I don't have to do anything aside from refilling and discarding the waste water every 2 to 3 days.
BRB thanks will look at Shopee for the price first.
I think saros10 is on promo now? But do your own due diligence ba. Too many robots on the market. But saros is currently the top of the line for roborock. You can't go wrong.
Investing on a good robot is worth it. But at the same time, they release too many new models within a short period of time and eventually obsolete over time. So do some reading before deckding one
to be fair though, i put the dock in a spot where its a bit narrow. no choice since its the only good spot i could find. after some furniture re arrangement i managed to add a bit more space. actually i dont really think its reached the point me wanting to replace it with anything else just yet. i still haven't found any that is better with the same price point. remember, i paid rm 570 ish for this. that is already cheap. all the others i saw that was competing against it were rm 750-1000k or slightly more.
from my first successful full clean, it did a good enough job to satisfy me, and i better understand the manual labor to maintain it. so for me especially for mopping, it's more of an assist rather than outright replacement for human manual cleaning. for the deep cleaning i probably have to do manually and thats ok with me.
if i had paid like rm 2k- 4k, i would EXPECT/DEMAND the robot really do all the automation bells and whistles an all that especially for the price paid well look here
u see the line going straight through the bottom couch. this was just one issue where it got slightly confused and spent a short time trying to get back to the dock station. in the end it decided to go straight through the no go zone to dock. it didn't physically get stuck so whatever, i only care about the results anyway as long as there is no big issues.
but u see the narrow area between 2 couches it previously got through fine before, why did it go round and round confused and couldnt go that way to go dock?
i sus cause i was editing map with furniture, so maybe it did something, i'm not sure. will see in the next cleaning session.
also notice the movement pattern. the left side is much more methodical in a good pattern. but in the bottom right it looks haphazard. most of the other places it has the left side pattern for cleaning elsewhere especially open spaces. i think because previously i sent it back to dock to recharge because it was running low. not an issue yet for now.
but in summary, it did manage to do the full clean without me having to pick it up at all. and the issue only happened at the very end but even then, when it zip through under couch eventually , it just went straight to dock and parked like a pro smoothly
so reason why u probably did not encounter similar issue, u have more open spaces than i *update
ok so i finished doing the cleaning maintenance for the rv30 max plus. it was easier than i thought. but i did not find the cleaner brush that supposedly comes with the vacuum other than that it was fine. the tangles in the main roller i could undo so far. too bad it's not a detangle roller, but u get what u paid for i guess. i see some reviews for other vacuum say in spec has detangle but when u see the reviews that may not be the case, so u have to check if it does or not malz, how often do u clean the roller and the hepa filter? and side brush? after each run? i'm wondering if i can do that after every 2 maybe 3 days? if everyday is a bit
i don't plan to use the mop with just water only. ill use it once a week when i do a manual mop with tile cleaner fluid followed up by the robot water mop full clean and clean it after use.
by the way i noticed in the app, it has a timer for when to replace hepa filter, side brushes etc. how does it know though? is there a chip in those parts so it can identify them? What happens when it goes to 0? but the part in question looks fine, then what? will see what happens when it happens i guess. Because i'm not gonna replace a part if it looks fine.
by the way in the tapo app for vacuum they got like a part shop for the dock to add a water proof mat for it. u can click it and it will bring u to store to purchase (not going to of course)
Your cleaning map quite messy haha .. mine is something like this .. it cleans my room and the dock is at my living room
on shopee 5759 and 7779 (without discount 15,998 ) ? my bottom-line is only 1k maybe up to 3k max, and only if it could do automation/mop/vacuum really well if not, whats the point paying so much? anyway we all got our own different budgets, so not criticizing anyone elses choices
u getting? let us know how it performs thats a lot of money, i would be expecting perfection. i assume the later one with a hand is to open doors? this is the saros10 you mentioned
it says the saros10 can charge in about 2 hours? mine took way longer to charge
also the saros10 does the retractable mop, clean the mop pad, dry the mop pad. extending/retractable side brush also automates the water as well (refill/drainage). obstacle avoidance seems to be good according to review. price? on shopee somewhere between 4-5k u get what u pay for i guess.
the saros10r with dual rotating mop seemed way better than the saros10 which had a single big vibrating mop. but the saros10 had a heigher mop retract than the saros10r. but that said, to me seems the saros10r is better because it mops better tbh
another interesting difference was the lidar. saros 10r has an internal lidar, whereas the saros 10 has a retractable lidar. The 10r has the newest obstacle avoidance tech by roborock. obstacle avoidance for both models seem to be better than average. because of their lidar design, their height is much smaller making it easier to fit under tight spaces which is very good.
they both can also go up slopes at certain heights. better than tapo? most likely. Will it be able to reach my back kitchen where it has a big slope step? i dont know but if not it would be a waste of money buying it only just for that hoping it does this is the other roborock model (the most expensive one) with the arm
*update
uh... 180ml dustbin size on the vaccum, BECAUSE they had to accommodate the space for the hand which according to the review which was gimmicky hit and miss half the time. so after paying so much thats what you get?
feels like they got to make more trips back to dock to unload to make room more often. and these robots work on a timer, when they r out of juice, they have to go back to dock to recharge (even my cheap tapo does that too).
tbh i'm not convinced for the asking price
just seems to me ur paying to be a beta tester for robot with hand. the trade off is too big, especially the hand doesnt seem to be that practical as it currently is based on the youtube review. at the end of the day ud still be paying for it, and personally i would want my moneys worth *update
based on the reviews i would say the Roborock Saros 10R would be on my buy list (because it pretty much does most of what i would want a robot vacuum to do, and based on the reviews the results look good so seems quite effective. And it can even handle detergent for mopping and not simply water only). just have to wait till it or something similar to it reaches my buy price. but for the next 5+ years i'm ok with the tapo, so i can wait it out
right now the roborock 10r is on shopee for RM5,759 by comparison the tapo rv30 max plus only cost me rm 586. mopping i still have to do manually (details in previous post), and some manual maintenance for cleaning the robot itself, but other than that, it can do automated vacuum. the clean job seemed fine to me as long as it's not a caked in stain. as for obstacle avoidance i doubt the tapo is as good as the roborock 10R, but despite playing bumper cars it still worked fine without issue. Navigation to go around home to clean, then go back to dock all worked (and thats really what matters most). for me i rather stick to the cheaper tapo thats good enough and for the cheap by comparison
sure the Roborock Saros 10R looks damn awesome, but for almost 10 times the price what i paid for the tapo? for me, no (waiting for price drop)
I wanted saros when it first released (about 9k?). But as you can see the price gets slashed so fast after they release the 70z. Not worth buying when the robot is first released. Hence I ended up with qrevo master although saros10 was rather tempting.
I don't think I need a new robot now, mine is doing fine and I think it's good enuf. Haha .. I got it around 3k when it was on promo.
Bro. The price is really high & over budget for me. Over 5000 & above 😱😳
How about Xiaomi vacuum robots, they around 2000, are they good enough?
I haven't tried Xiaomi though. You have to do your own research. You can look at other roborock options too. Saros is just the top line of their product. I think with 2 to 3k you should get a decent one with rbg camera. Better avoidance.
I noticed that. Even this rv30 max plus on release was 1k something. Now is cheaper.
This is exactly why I wouldn't rush to buy even if it's amazing, not until the price starts to make sense or fall into my spending budget
9k 15k, wtf 😠Anyway I c we both have the same plan 😊
3k for qrevo? Im not familiar with this model. I will YouTube it later.
Not long ago lowyat posted some robot vacuum stores opening mid valley or somewhere? And they had promo prices then. I wasnt in market to buy back then 🥲 https://www.lowyat.net/2025/340716/roborock...ramid-starling/ 😬 Just only priced at... Marketing speak as if ur getting it at a good deal price 😅 *update
ooo qrevo master priced at RM2,679 (probably lesser with discount voucher if u got shopee vip vouchers or something maybe) saw the vacuum wars review for the qrevo master, seems to have all the bells and whistles i need, so then, what exactly does the Saros 10R have over it to justify such a huge price increase? the newer obstacle avoidance system? but according to the reviews, seems like the qrevo master is doing great as is, so....
how is the qrevo master detangle for the roller? does it actually work? or do u have to manually remove the hair from roller each time to clean it?
Also because it marketed the mop pads as highly automated for clean and swap, is it totally hands of for maintenance? or do u still have to manually maintain the mop or not? this is what i'm curious about *update the differences are
- Auto Detergent Dispenser - FlexiArm Riser Side Brush - High-speed Sonic Mopping https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/...tating_mopping/ - Automatic Mop Detaching - 3D ToF Navigation ( the master uses LDS Laser Navigation. Seems the 10R replaced that for this 3D Tof Nav)
master has bigger water tank and covers more square feet, yet the 10r has a bigger battery. the auto detergent dispender sounds interesting. any good? and seems the saros 10r is their first model to have this feature https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/...e_doubts_about/ But the qrevo master supports detergent, but u got to add manually https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/...g_qrevo_master/ wow... avoid curtain, so how? not too big a deal for me. the tapo i have brushes slightly against the curtain, but then it stays away, so no issue for it. so i'm assuming the saros 10r works similar, or does it keep a further distance? no idea. qrevo master ranked 19 on vacuumwars, behind the edge, curve, slim, no idea y.
here they say to pass on master and go pro instead
By comparison the Saros 10R scored rank 3. But its vastly more expensive https://vacuumwars.com/vacuum-wars-best-robot-vacuums/#19 unless you want really need the detergent auto dispenser, doubt i would go for the saros 10r for that price, when the qrevo master does a bang job as is with very few caveats (according to the reviews) for much cheaper. it doesnt do the mop swap, but at least it cleans it. master seems the better value buy in the 2-3k range unless somebody has a different reco?
roborock even has 2 new physical stores in malaysia which doubles up as repair center, so if anything goes wrong, u know where to go. summary
- u want a cheap usable robot just for vacuum but ok with mediocre mopping, and don't mind less automation, then Tapo rv30 max plus (500-700 price range). But is it the cheapest? no, because i saw different brand models like the MOVA Robot Vacuum E10 selling for RM474 but it has no dock for unloading trash into a bag. Not everyone wants a bag so may or may not be a big deal to you.
- u can spend for mid-range, something good for mopping,more automation, and better obstacle avoidance, then qrevo master (2-3k price range). maybe there is another similarly like it but cheaper, but what that is, i dont know
- money is no object, you want the best even if the gains might not be best bang for bucks necessarily but is an improvement nevertheless, then Saros 10R it is ( 5 -6k price range ). In vacuumwars they mention other top performers like the Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni, Dreame X50 Ultra among others. so i'm not necessarily saying Saros 10R is the #1, just that based on the review i saw seems to do pretty much everything for the high end segment. Maybe the competition does it better for cheaper for their high end model. u have to dyor. If u have a different opinion for this, feel free to share, i would like to know also *update
sorry, the qrevo master is rm4349 lazada. so u can ignore 2-3k cause that is wrong.
https://my.priceme.com/Roborock-Qrevo-Maste...-928416459.aspx RM2,679 is for the qrevo PRO. which is what the youtuber recommended over the master. requires further investigation. doesnt matter if something is good, if the price is not right to make it a good buy
I still have to do some manually at times to remove the hair lodged between the rollers. But maybe once a month? The good thing about master is that it is easy to clean, not much hassle hence I chose it over S8 back then.
Yes, u don't need the top end robots because they obsolete very fast. But if can afford why not right? Haha ..
They actually have the 3x cycle settings but i never try. Main issue i have is the battery. Not enough to cover whole routine for single charge.
Seems like dreame has more options compared to roborock. But why does your battery deplete so fast? Usually cleaning my whole house, which is about 850sqft I'll be left with 80% battery.
if ur house so big why not get 2 robot vacuum? then u can split the clean area. this solves the issue of having to wait hours for the robot vacuum to recharge before it resumes cleaning.
the main issue i noticed, if ur robot battery size too small and uses power too fast, it may then want to go to dock to charge backup before resuming again. that's not necessarily a bad thing, but depending on your robot, charging may be fast or slow. mine charges very slow, so that is a big problem. If my job is done for the day since it completed the full clean in one go on a single battery charge, then it doesnt matter if it charges for the rest of the day since it wont be in use either way. the problem is if job is incomplete and it needs to resume on same day, then u have to wait on how fast it can recharge. on budget robots they dont recharge fast
but since my clean area is much smaller, i can do 1 maybe 2 full clean runs without worry of having to go back charge before resume.
there is also a do not disturb mode, so during wee hours i dont think the robot will operate so it will go back dock to charge, then when time expire, it will resume the cleaning operation. i havent managed to test if it really resumes after disturb mode period ends or not.
point is, for smaller home this rv30 max plus battery is a non issue for a full house clean. but bigger home it might be, because to wait for full recharge takes a couple of hours, which is pretty damn long. at that point you may want to consider splitting clean area between 2 vacuum robots instead of just 1 malz not sure why his is draining so fast. but maybe its the settings. by default all the vacuum is set to lowest (probably they can look good in how long the vacuum can operate for. but as soon as u set to max vacuum, that number will dwindle. so as example, if the spec say the robot can operate for 2 hours on the battery, that may be true UNLESS u change the vacuum to max then it will be less). Also he is doing 2 passes so that's gonna take longer to do, so he has to use the battery for longer. maybe thats why his battery is almost exhausted (or even had to dock back to recharge which seems to be the case) u said u got it for 3k? for that price ok lah. but then when i checked, it was 4k+
if can afford its definitely good, me? i'll wait longer for the price slashes. Some reviews i saw, they were noting how some models quickly got outdated after only 3 months or so. That's how fast these robots development is. So since i already got a robot to cope with, i can wait it out for some good deals, no rush side note: was wondering about the robot vacuum electricity bill, seems neglible https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comme..._cleaners_mops/
will see when they bill comes my schedule is set to daily vacuum, and mop once a week. will report back the bill next month i guess
also i noticed when my robot finished cleaning area then moving to the next, it will turn off the vacuum to save power, while traversing through areas its already cleaned, to get to the next room to start vacuuming again. it's very efficient
I got it when it was on promo with shoppee vouchers all stacked lol. I don't see much difference with the robot. I only charge it 6hrs a day coz to clean the whole house it would be left with at least 70% battery. Basically only consumes 30% of my battery.
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