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ykj
post Oct 20 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:24 AM)
Taman road are public road
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:27 AM)
Taman roads all belong to government lah, the developer build then handover to government even the street light, longkang, trees and playground is gov manage punya, it doesn't belong to you or the developer. Maintenance all u can complain to majlis, those ppl come cut grass is majlis punya. Genting is a different case, they own the bloody hill and the road is owned and maintained by themselves.

Inb4 semua salah PH DAP
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Got taman where the whole place is private, such as gated & guarded ones.
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 20 2023, 11:28 AM)
they built and maintained the road but now got other developer come in and use the road. Do you know how much is the infra cost on the total development? they want to make money and not charity.
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Excuses to suck the rakyat dry. Charge the developers then.

The road is free to use since Genting's inception.

Say what you want.
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:34 AM

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you are too young to understand, read more.

QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:32 AM)
Excuses to suck the rakyat dry. Charge the developers then.

The road is free to use since Genting's inception.

Say what you want.
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 20 2023, 11:34 AM)
you are too young to understand, read more.
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Let's just agree to disagree. Peace
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:29 AM)
Got taman where the whole place is private, such as gated & guarded ones.
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Yes ur right, got 2 types,

Strata gated guarded
Non-strata gated and guarded

Strata one the road and all facility is owned by the joint management body (JMB) and everyone there is forced to pay "maintenance fee" and usually "sinking fund" to maintain the roads and other facility. This one majlis no care and you also don't own the road, your porch, your house facade also you don't own it u can't even paint or renovate the exterior of your house. But you paid your "toll" every month for them to maintain the road and facility.

The non-strata one is just the security guard, you pay "protection money" to the security guard/company for your security. However, the road drain lamps grass all still belongs to the majlis, infact to set up a gated guarded, need permission from majlis because it's majlis road and land. Infact, it's still a public road and they cannot stop people from entering, the guard is just there to well guard lol

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gorvement sudah approve , toll charges include sst..lol
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:37 AM

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facilities (including road) under strata title are not maintained by the council

QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:29 AM)
Got taman where the whole place is private, such as gated & guarded ones.
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 20 2023, 11:34 AM)
you are too young to understand, read more.
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He semua salah gov PH DAP type la.
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:28 AM)
previously the father time, everything is free
even drinks are provided in casino for free
now big boss loss money in other investment
started with parking need to pay
then no more free drinks in casino
share dividend also only small amount of 60 bucks
no more free room for share holders unlike his dad time
now even need to resort to tolled road going up
very greedy this son.
maybe desperate too, as HK also gulung tikar oledi
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Maybe just maybe if they lower the admission charges to their theme parks, lower the odds for games in their casinos or submit themselves to independent scrutiny to check on the “fairness” of all their gambling games (like in US via Gaming Commission), then perhaps their business could improve.
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:48 AM

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At least can clear traffic at Karak a bit.. every weekend got some driver and rider main corner at Karak (and they exit at Genting)
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:53 AM

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Lingkaran Cekap, which is 49.4% owned by Genting.
who own balance 50.6% ? which crony?
ykj
post Oct 20 2023, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:28 AM)
previously the father time, everything is free
even drinks are provided in casino for free
now big boss loss money in other investment
started with parking need to pay
then no more free drinks in casino
share dividend also only small amount of 60 bucks
no more free room for share holders unlike his dad time
now even need to resort to tolled road going up
very greedy this son.
maybe desperate too, as HK also gulung tikar oledi
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Well said. The son is super greedy and look at shorter term.
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Oct 20 2023, 11:01 AM)
What’s the justification for this? To reduce number of vehicle up top?
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to reduce visitors to the top. too many ppl dah
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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Uh yes you can. See the Taman Sea condo case.
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post Oct 20 2023, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Oct 20 2023, 11:57 AM)
to reduce visitors to the top. too many ppl dah
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To reduce certain types of visitor too. Those that just wanna go up jalan jalan. Take space and don't really spend much.

Those that go up to gamble or go theme park won't mind the tolls. Only those that like to go up to "feel cold" every week or so will think twice.
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post Oct 20 2023, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Oct 20 2023, 11:05 AM)
Morelikely Genting shareholder pressure them for new revenue. The pandemic bashed them very hard causing their cruiseline business suffer bankrupt and mountain of debts.
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their cruise bankrupt already? sure or not?
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post Oct 20 2023, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Oct 20 2023, 12:04 PM)
their cruise bankrupt already? sure or not?
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If I not mistaken Genting HongKong
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post Oct 20 2023, 12:38 PM

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confirm this toll will cause jam all the way to before gombak toll and mrr2 during CNY
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post Oct 20 2023, 12:49 PM

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