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post Oct 10 2023, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Oct 10 2023, 09:28 AM)
Loan 350k
Today outstanding: 320k
Already served 6 years plus, 1500 monthly

6 x 12 x 1500 = 108k
108k - 30k = 78k

Bank already earned 78k interest from me, bloody hell
Gov should do sthg, how can house loan be so expensive...
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Seems, the Rule Of 78 is still being applied by Malaysian banks for long term housing loans. .......

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/ruleof78.asp - Rule of 78: Definition, How Lenders Use It, and Calculation
By CAROLINE BANTON Updated March 06, 2021
Reviewed by THOMAS J. CATALANO

What Is the Rule of 78?

The Rule of 78 is a method used by some lenders to calculate interest charges on a loan. The Rule of 78 requires the borrower to pay a greater portion of interest in the earlier part of a loan cycle, which decreases the potential savings for the borrower in paying off their loan. ...

In 1992, the legislation made this type of financing illegal for loans in the United States with a duration of greater than 61 months. ....

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post Oct 10 2023, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 03:12 PM)
Progressive drawdown disbursed mean loan released for the stage completion. Example if spa 600k. Completion of stage 2a piling (10%-60k) stage 2b structure (15%-90k) and so on.

For highrise, these 2 stages will incur longest/most cummulative u/c progressive interest till VP. Therefore work towards to zerorize 2a&2b in the coming 36 months, the sooner the better prior to VP.
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debt/loan is still loan....uncle rather it to be off-set by uncle life insurance rather than using current cash flow to cover it....

why take a loan if you don't actually need it? lol

every "long-terms" spending, uncle don't mind to service the debt....because it is long terms debts that uncle knew it when the day 1 uncle sign the SPA.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Oct 10 2023, 03:19 PM)
If u loan me 350k, after 35 years total i pay to you is 700k, will u approve?
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what is the value of 350k after 35 years?

uncle time RM 1 is so big....now.....speechless edy
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 10 2023, 02:36 PM)
IMO, you lose money by taking out from ASB to pay more downpayment if ASB gives you higher interest rate compared to home loan - especially for gomen staff kan? You only gain from potentially lower MRTT premium.
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indeed, but nothing to lose since ASB dividen return for the last 2-3 years quite low.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 03:12 PM)
Progressive drawdown disbursed mean loan released for the stage completion. Example if spa 600k. Completion of stage 2a piling (10%-60k) stage 2b structure (15%-90k) and so on.

For highrise, these 2 stages will incur longest/most cummulative u/c progressive interest till VP. Therefore work towards to zerorize 2a&2b in the coming 36 months, the sooner the better prior to VP.
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i see, well unless I work some good side job, I dont really have much cash to dump into flexi loan. only annual bonus and 12 month salary to dump into it annually, around 10K annually.

I also not keen on using EPF either since EPF higher interest.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Oct 10 2023, 03:20 PM)
debt/loan is still loan....uncle rather it to be off-set by uncle life insurance rather than using current cash flow to cover it....

why take a loan if you don't actually need it? lol

every "long-terms" spending, uncle don't mind to service the debt....because it is long terms debts that uncle knew it when the day 1 uncle sign the SPA.
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No wrong on your part. One to its own.

Leveraging on mortgage is all about finance cost. Financing cost = high/low interest incurred over the time horizon.

Life insurance also incurred finance cost, cost of insurance.
That said, mrta redemption works wonder (lagi berbaloi) lol

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Oct 10 2023, 03:32 PM
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:33 PM

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Sendiri suka suka take loan, now want government to help you, didn't read contract?

One day those took out epf, will blame government why mahyiddin allow to take out the money.

This post has been edited by kelvinfixx: Oct 10 2023, 03:34 PM
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(MKCL @ Oct 10 2023, 03:26 PM)
i see, well unless I work some good side job, I dont really have much cash to dump into flexi loan. only annual bonus and 12 month salary to dump into it annually, around 10K annually.

I also not keen on using EPF either since EPF higher interest.
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Doesn't matter. As little as one has, do it right you will reduce your cost of financing.

You will never know your future income but most importantly doing it right in principal reduction. Thats the goal.

Mortgage is all about leveraging to the lowest cost of finance.

Yes, exclude epf

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Oct 10 2023, 03:40 PM
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:41 PM

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https://www.calculator.net/mortgage-payoff-calculator.html

use this if you plan to pay extra payments, very clearly shows you how much you'll be saving or paying for interest
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 03:31 PM)
No wrong on your part. One to its own.

Leveraging on mortgage is all about finance cost. Financing cost = high/low interest incurred over the time horizon.

Life insurance also incurred finance cost, cost of insurance.
That said, mrta redemption works wonder (lagi berbaloi) lol
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we - as human only have 1 life...

if we die....let the mortgage debt settle by insuranace lor....either MRTA and MLTA or other Life insurance....

again, if not, especially we are very poor, then inherit nothing to our next generations lo....

debt will not inherit automatically....and your next of kin can reject to accept your asset (and the debt from that particular aaset).....

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post Oct 10 2023, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 03:31 PM)
No wrong on your part. One to its own.

Leveraging on mortgage is all about finance cost. Financing cost = high/low interest incurred over the time horizon.

Life insurance also incurred finance cost, cost of insurance.
That said, mrta redemption works wonder (lagi berbaloi) lol
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buy normal life insurance la....cheaper and better....MRTA take minimum cukup edy....since it is reducing...
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QUOTE(MKCL @ Oct 10 2023, 03:26 PM)
i see, well unless I work some good side job, I dont really have much cash to dump into flexi loan. only annual bonus and 12 month salary to dump into it annually, around 10K annually.

I also not keen on using EPF either since EPF higher interest.
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uncle encourage ppl to take out EPF saving to pay for mortgage....malaysian don't count on EPF to retire one....no point
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 10 2023, 09:31 AM)
Unker ppr in 2013 buy only rm218k.

Monthly supposed to be rm1100 wonly.

But pay rm2k monthly now.

Currenlt principle left rm66k wonly.

Hope can fully settle within the next 2-3 years.
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Islamic loan not as this right? They using term buying and selling, u pay more, it just deduct the future payment
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Oct 10 2023, 03:33 PM)
Sendiri suka suka take loan, now want government to help you, didn't read contract?

One day those took out epf, will blame government why mahyiddin allow to take out the money.
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This. Else make house loan capped at 10 years only not 35 years if keep calculating how much Bank take interest
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Oct 10 2023, 03:44 PM)
we - as human only have 1 life...

if we die....let the mortgage debt settle by insuranace lor....either MRTA and MLTA or other Life insurance....

again, if not, especially we are very poor, then inherit nothing to our next generations lo....

debt will not inherit automatically....and your next of kin can reject to accept your asset (and the debt from that particular aaset).....

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Agree fully.
Peace upon all of us.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Oct 10 2023, 05:48 PM
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Oct 10 2023, 10:44 AM)
Don't know,
See dashboard show still own bank almost 1.1 million...
Already pay for 7 years....
Interest pre covid, but the amount need to pay more that pre covid......
Don't know...
Bank dashboard show I still own 1.1 million....
Borrow 300k...
Pay 7 years already.....
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Kena scam, can't get merrid for life
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Oct 10 2023, 03:45 PM)
buy normal life insurance la....cheaper and better....MRTA take minimum cukup edy....since it is reducing...
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Yes.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Oct 10 2023, 03:51 PM)
Kena scam, can't get merrid for life
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Not planning to merry.....
Prefer solo....
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:59 PM

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Let say I want to buy an apartment cost about rm600k, should I take 90% loan? Or 50% loan instead?

Throw cash 300k as deposit, then 300k with 10 years loan

However on 3rd year of loan I can settle the loan, anyone can help calculate how much interest I could save?
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post Oct 10 2023, 04:01 PM

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Gov will help to current those in need dire help to own a house / apartment which is small for a family to own a place that call home.

However, those manage to get without gov help are suffering becoz die die also want a house with big huge interest.

None help to them, apart from income tax but only last for the last year's ago ? But only reduce income tax but continue once lapse.....kesian dulu dulu purchase for the sufferings.,...

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