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post Oct 10 2023, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Oct 10 2023, 09:28 AM)
Loan 350k
Today outstanding: 320k
Already served 6 years plus, 1500 monthly

6 x 12 x 1500 = 108k
108k - 30k = 78k

Bank already earned 78k interest from me, bloody hell
Gov should do sthg, how can house loan be so expensive...
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well summarized...
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(MKCL @ Oct 10 2023, 02:24 PM)
my loan 452k including MLTA (21k, full refund upon early settlement), now condo still under construction, so got progressive interest.

already start paying full loan amount since March, the first month of interest. 1.8k principal, 200-250 interest every month. hnggg, still got another 3 years until the construction is done, dont know how much interest will be save till then, but quite a lot. ady repaid 14175.23 of my principal
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do you know you still need to pay a lot money to maintain your condo?
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(spider955 @ Oct 10 2023, 12:47 PM)
Sejujurnya...regrett join gov..gaji ciput, yearly bonus germ size
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private is worst working conditions...and you need to be capable and competence....also gaji ciput....no bonus....you sure?
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Oct 10 2023, 02:27 PM)
Bayangkan those beli RM2mil rumah.

RM2,000,000 x 0.045 / 365 x 30 = Monthly interesting RM7,400

Sakit ooo
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do you really think they buy using own name and own pocket money?
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 10 2023, 02:56 PM)
They use fama's money?
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what do you think?
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(MKCL @ Oct 10 2023, 02:57 PM)
yes i know, maintenance fee 200, and reno

but at least reduce quite an amount of interest in long run for the loan. paying 90% of the monthly installment to capital for the 1st yr quite syok
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maintenance fee is just a starting....it will be long terms commitment....

not only renovations, furnitures etc....but also to repair the broken things/pipe/water leakage, and cleaning the house also a long terms cost....

don't forget cukai tanah cukai pintu....and MOT
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 10 2023, 02:59 PM)
Idk, you tell me since you gave the impression as if people don't use own money and name to buy RM2m houses.
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FAMA fund is good...if not company money lo
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 10 2023, 03:00 PM)
i sekaligus taruh 160k into the semi-flexi account for a principal of 430k
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uncle wondering why you kill your cash flow?
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Oct 10 2023, 03:03 PM)
Company money still own money ma.

Every month bayar RM7,400 interest wo, sure sakit.

RM7,400 can hire two staff to expand business empire
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what? okay lo....if you assume they are same
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(jackal1950 @ Oct 10 2023, 03:04 PM)
This is the problem when school don't teach you financial management and loan calculation.
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impossible to happen in malaysia as we are more to religion school instead of finance
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 10 2023, 03:06 PM)
Those doctors and proffessionals, takkan all of them buy using company money? I wonder how you come to the conclusion people don't use own money and name to buy RM2mln properties. It's not that expensive for these people.
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doctors also got Sdn Bhd geh....don't be surprised....

even so, they can lease back or use rental contract to back up...
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Oct 10 2023, 03:11 PM)
300,010. left rm10 there to enjoy free overdraft facility  biggrin.gif
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where got free.....it is your money oiii.....uncle got real OD facility at RM 4.3 millions....interest same as BR + 1.2%....this one baru make sense oiiii
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 03:12 PM)
Progressive drawdown disbursed mean loan released for the stage completion. Example if spa 600k. Completion of stage 2a piling (10%-60k) stage 2b structure (15%-90k) and so on.

For highrise, these 2 stages will incur longest/most cummulative u/c progressive interest till VP. Therefore work towards to zerorize 2a&2b in the coming 36 months, the sooner the better prior to VP.
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debt/loan is still loan....uncle rather it to be off-set by uncle life insurance rather than using current cash flow to cover it....

why take a loan if you don't actually need it? lol

every "long-terms" spending, uncle don't mind to service the debt....because it is long terms debts that uncle knew it when the day 1 uncle sign the SPA.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Oct 10 2023, 03:19 PM)
If u loan me 350k, after 35 years total i pay to you is 700k, will u approve?
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what is the value of 350k after 35 years?

uncle time RM 1 is so big....now.....speechless edy
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 03:31 PM)
No wrong on your part. One to its own.

Leveraging on mortgage is all about finance cost. Financing cost = high/low interest incurred over the time horizon.

Life insurance also incurred finance cost, cost of insurance.
That said, mrta redemption works wonder (lagi berbaloi) lol
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we - as human only have 1 life...

if we die....let the mortgage debt settle by insuranace lor....either MRTA and MLTA or other Life insurance....

again, if not, especially we are very poor, then inherit nothing to our next generations lo....

debt will not inherit automatically....and your next of kin can reject to accept your asset (and the debt from that particular aaset).....

peace
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 03:31 PM)
No wrong on your part. One to its own.

Leveraging on mortgage is all about finance cost. Financing cost = high/low interest incurred over the time horizon.

Life insurance also incurred finance cost, cost of insurance.
That said, mrta redemption works wonder (lagi berbaloi) lol
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buy normal life insurance la....cheaper and better....MRTA take minimum cukup edy....since it is reducing...
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(MKCL @ Oct 10 2023, 03:26 PM)
i see, well unless I work some good side job, I dont really have much cash to dump into flexi loan. only annual bonus and 12 month salary to dump into it annually, around 10K annually.

I also not keen on using EPF either since EPF higher interest.
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uncle encourage ppl to take out EPF saving to pay for mortgage....malaysian don't count on EPF to retire one....no point
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post Oct 10 2023, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(metaled @ Oct 10 2023, 04:09 PM)
unker always advise younger kolik upon their asking, stop focusing on how much you want to spend on renovate your house nicer, instead focus how to cut down on unnecessary renovation and increase your down payment or how to grow income with those.

All those young kids rileks je spending more then 100k cash on this sort of things.

In the end, you a grown adult, your own money, no need other people to tell you how to spend them.
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not their fault....but property nowadays do not have good quality tho.....thin structure and cracking everywhere + poor isulation + bad design (kitchen at living room)...

Singapore HDB is much more practical and solid tho.
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post Oct 10 2023, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Oct 10 2023, 04:22 PM)
unfortunately lots of young couples spends overboard for their reno claiming its their dream house/once a lifetime/ do now if not later bekum expensive
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worst is they found out their property is leaking here and there and need to remove tiles to repairs.....and not many people can fully coorperative to strata management also....at the end....a lot of bad unit come out and the management cannot keep up....
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post Oct 10 2023, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Oct 10 2023, 04:22 PM)
unfortunately lots of young couples spends overboard for their reno claiming its their dream house/once a lifetime/ do now if not later bekum expensive
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also, they realised only 1 cp....then if gf/wife want park, need to rent one more....otherwise parking at roadside jer....block the whole road

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