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spider955
post Oct 10 2023, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Oct 10 2023, 12:42 PM)
Untung keje gomen
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post Oct 10 2023, 12:49 PM

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post Oct 10 2023, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Oct 10 2023, 11:29 AM)
i think u got it wrong,.. 78k is paying back the capital,.. not interest,.. 30k is the interest,..

if u fully settle your loan today,.. then

flat rate interest = (30k/108k) / 6 years = 4.6%

very near current market what ??
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you're wrong. in the early years your installment paid mostly is just for the interest and very little capital paid.
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post Oct 10 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Oct 10 2023, 10:19 AM)
But tanah status pertanian right

If you sell the house also under status pertanian? Not legit for residential development
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Nope....under pertanian allowed to built......everything is the same as normal house.......when u want to developed for housing..just change it to kediaman from pertanian.
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post Oct 10 2023, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(lopo90 @ Oct 10 2023, 12:28 PM)
Wow, you played the bank nicely and they don't like being beaten at their own game
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screw banks. i paid for the s&p, and lawyer fee. they better just follow the tnc...



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post Oct 10 2023, 02:01 PM

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Only 3 reasons to take housing loan:

1. Cannot afford to buy in cash
2. Investment opportunity to invest the cash that would yield greater returns compared to the Housing Loan interest rate.
3. Sked LHDN kacau, where the penalty will be higher than the Loan interest rate.
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(BullshitDetective @ Oct 10 2023, 01:04 PM)
you're wrong. in the early years your installment paid mostly is just for the interest and very little capital paid.
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nobody ask you to pay the exact amount every month. if you can afford to hisap rokok , minum starbucks, makan hotpot every month, then that should be part of the principal.

i paid off my 250k loan in 6 years. i have another 760k loan left 180k after 10 years of servicing it. probably 3 more years can kaotim.
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:13 PM

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That’s the price to pay for been poor.

If you’re rich to upfront the whole cost, you would had saved the 78k.

This post has been edited by msacras: Oct 10 2023, 02:13 PM
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:24 PM

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my loan 452k including MLTA (21k, full refund upon early settlement), now condo still under construction, so got progressive interest.

already start paying full loan amount since March, the first month of interest. 1.8k principal, 200-250 interest every month. hnggg, still got another 3 years until the construction is done, dont know how much interest will be save till then, but quite a lot. ady repaid 14175.23 of my principal
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:27 PM

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Bayangkan those beli RM2mil rumah.

RM2,000,000 x 0.045 / 365 x 30 = Monthly interesting RM7,400

Sakit ooo
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(MKCL @ Oct 10 2023, 02:24 PM)
my loan 452k including MLTA (21k, full refund upon early settlement), now condo still under construction, so got progressive interest.

already start paying full loan amount since March, the first month of interest. 1.8k principal, 200-250 interest every month. hnggg, still got another 3 years until the construction is done, dont know how much interest will be save till then, but quite a lot. ady repaid 14175.23 of my principal
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Kudos.
Try to do the progressive drawdown disbursed prepayment by the bank to developer, bro. Mininum past stage 2b&2c or further if cashflow permitted.

You will see the saving and principal reduction over the time horizon come VP 36/48mths later

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Oct 10 2023, 02:39 PM
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Oct 10 2023, 11:21 AM)
30% for most bank
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Depends... PBB limits to 70% of current account balance - whatever amount you have in the current account, 30% of it will goyang telur.

HLB is 70% of outstanding loan balance.

QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Oct 10 2023, 11:38 AM)
yup, i think is islamic....
i ask the banker,
the banker say no need to see the amount, just pay nia...
it will reduce at the end.....
but pay 7 years already,
the amount still same....
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I was told by the loan officer that Islamic loan is not the same as conventional... "it may be difficult for laymen to understand". You should call the bank to check your outstanding amount.


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post Oct 10 2023, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(spider955 @ Oct 10 2023, 12:38 PM)
You remind me my 3rd landed house loan
House Price: rm430k
Downpayment : Rm130k ( Big hole on my ASB)
Loan + MRTT : 311k
Tenure :11 years...yess i make 11 years loan!! starting april 2017
Monthy Rm2700-RM29++ (depend on BLR) best year during covid...reject moratorium since iam gov staff gaji tetap jalan
Today outstanding: 181k
Total bank makan for 11 years loan estimate: RM98k , yeah got pro and cons when high downpayment, shorter time but kill my itik telur emas ASB..
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IMO, you lose money by taking out from ASB to pay more downpayment if ASB gives you higher interest rate compared to home loan - especially for gomen staff kan? You only gain from potentially lower MRTT premium.
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Oct 10 2023, 02:12 PM)
nobody ask you to pay the exact amount every month. if you can afford to hisap rokok , minum starbucks, makan hotpot every month, then that should be part of the principal.

i paid off my 250k loan in 6 years. i have another 760k loan left 180k after 10 years of servicing it. probably 3 more years can kaotim.
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Kudos. 👍
This is called, you are in control in the name game of leveraging

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Oct 10 2023, 02:43 PM
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 10 2023, 02:33 PM)
Depends... PBB limits to 70% of current account balance - whatever amount you have in the current account, 30% of it will goyang telur.

HLB is 70% of outstanding loan balance.
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Bro can you explain what you mean by the 70% limit? I have a PBB housing loan (Islamic) and I’m planning to put a big bunch of cash from FD in there. Are you saying they only accept max of 70% outstanding loan amount paid in advance?
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 02:33 PM)
Kudos.
Try to do the progressive drawdown disbursed prepayment by the bank to developer, bro. Mininum past stage 2b&2c or further if cashflow permitted.

You will see the saving and principal reduction over the time horizon come VP 36/48mths later
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what is progressive drawdown disbursed prepayment in layman terms ?


my loan currently already release 94k, based on progress. outstanding released amount is 79k. I dont have much in flexi loan as I spent most of them in downpayment, have like 6-10k, with additional 10k from bonus every yr

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Oct 10 2023, 02:43 PM)
Bro can you explain what you mean by the 70% limit? I have a PBB housing loan (Islamic) and I’m planning to put a big bunch of cash from FD in there. Are you saying they only accept max of 70% outstanding loan amount paid in advance?
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meaning your flexi loan can only offset interest up to 70% of the principal amount, if loan 100k, your flexi acc got 100k. they can still charge interest on 30k of the loan. it will never be 0%
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:45 PM

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If land is in Kelantan and hari hari tuai, then legit i reckon


QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Oct 10 2023, 10:19 AM)
But tanah status pertanian right

If you sell the house also under status pertanian? Not legit for residential development
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(MKCL @ Oct 10 2023, 02:45 PM)
meaning your flexi loan can only offset interest up to 70% of the principal amount, if loan 100k, your flexi acc got 100k. they can still charge interest on 30k of the loan. it will never be 0%
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This thing ia only for first 2 or 3 yrs only la..
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Oct 10 2023, 09:29 AM)
compound interest is the 8th greatest wonder of the world
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And it's a double-edged sword, that can serve and punish you. Just need to be smart.

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