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desmond2020
post Oct 10 2023, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Oct 10 2023, 11:13 AM)
Then wat is the max % allow to park into flexi loan acc?
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30% for most bank
Etude8891
post Oct 10 2023, 11:21 AM

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Increase your earning ability lor.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:22 AM

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it's not bank standard calculation but it's a universal formula for mortgage calculation. if you not agree, can you show your correct calculation?
of course you are paying the most interest in the beginning because the interest is based on the principal which is at the max compare to at the ending of your loan period.

QUOTE(ameliorate @ Oct 10 2023, 11:12 AM)
The standards are fixed by the banks. If they want to change it they can but they won't.

I'm saying they skew too much in the banks favor. You're paying around 90:10 interest vs principal during the first few years of the loan.

Many people have impression that housing loan is similar to hire purchase. The banks want profit but this is too greedy. If ah long do this everyone condemns but if banks then it is ok.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:24 AM

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That's why housing should always be socialised.
Leased/let out by the government.
Singapore did it right.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:25 AM

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Apa house only 350k ?
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Oct 10 2023, 12:25 PM)
Apa house only 350k ?
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Banyak lor.

Old subsale condo, apt, flat.

Rumah idaman.

Selangorku, prima
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Oct 10 2023, 09:28 AM)
Loan 350k
Today outstanding: 320k
Already served 6 years plus, 1500 monthly

6 x 12 x 1500 = 108k
108k - 30k = 78k

Bank already earned 78k interest from me, bloody hell
Gov should do sthg, how can house loan be so expensive...
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i think u got it wrong,.. 78k is paying back the capital,.. not interest,.. 30k is the interest,..

if u fully settle your loan today,.. then

flat rate interest = (30k/108k) / 6 years = 4.6%

very near current market what ??
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 10 2023, 11:22 AM)
it's not bank standard calculation but it's a universal formula for mortgage calculation. if you not agree, can you show your correct calculation?
of course you are paying the most interest in the beginning because the interest is based on the principal which is at the max compare to at the ending of your loan period.
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You mabuk ketum ke? Again, if they want to change it they can but they won't. No such thing as 'universal'.

I can't do shit because I don't have money to buy house in cash. You pandering to the banks like you own them.

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post Oct 10 2023, 11:32 AM

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We actually been brainwashed to loan a house for 25-30 years. Actually, if we settle it like a car loan (i.e 5 to 9 years), the bank wont benefit that much.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 10 2023, 09:31 AM)
Unker ppr in 2013 buy only rm218k.

Monthly supposed to be rm1100 wonly.

But pay rm2k monthly now.

Currenlt principle left rm66k wonly.

Hope can fully settle within the next 2-3 years.
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This is important.. to those taking >25 years loan the first few years is critical.. if monthly you can double up the repayment you actually need around 12 years only to completely pay the property.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 10 2023, 09:31 AM)
Want to ask ya if I put more money inside...it only reduces the loan duration right? Not the loan amount monthly right?
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Technically it doesn't reduce the duration, it reduces the outstanding amount

Say you have a outstanding balance of 100k, and monthly repayment is 1000, 700 goes to interest and 300 goes to reduction

You put extra 50k into the account, now your outstanding is reduced to 50k, you still pay althea same amount of 1000 monthly, but due to reduced outstanding, you pay less interest and more of your 1000, say 700 can goes to principal reduction.

Then up until a point where the advance payment = outstanding, you can opt for full settlement. That's where people say advance payment can reduce loan tenure
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 10 2023, 10:51 AM)
Islamic loan? I was told Islamic loan displays different amount of balance compared to conventional but not sure how much difference.
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yup, i think is islamic....
i ask the banker,
the banker say no need to see the amount, just pay nia...
it will reduce at the end.....
but pay 7 years already,
the amount still same....
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 10 2023, 11:36 AM)
This is important.. to those taking >25 years loan the first few years is critical.. if monthly you can double up the repayment you actually need around 12 years only to completely pay the property.
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Talk like so easy all can afford pay 2x instalment, money fall from sky
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Oct 10 2023, 11:29 AM)
i think u got it wrong,.. 78k is paying back the capital,.. not interest,.. 30k is the interest,..

if u fully settle your loan today,.. then

flat rate interest = (30k/108k) / 6 years = 4.6%

very near current market what ??
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Nop his right first few year it will always going to be a large portion to interest and if you follow the schedule most likely on the 10th years onwards more will be going into principal. That's how loans work.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Oct 10 2023, 11:38 AM)
Talk like so easy all can afford pay 2x instalment, money fall from sky
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Buy property that the installment is 1/5 1/6 of your income then can la
Buy 1/3 one is memang cannot
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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Oct 10 2023, 11:38 AM)
Talk like so easy all can afford pay 2x instalment, money fall from sky
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Well it's your choice. Instead of buying that ipong i take that 6k to pay more. May not be easy to you but that's what I'm doing
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:41 AM

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you think bank doing charity work keh ? They need to pay employee, pay rental fee, pay electric and water bill, pay system and best of all pay their boss and investor .... that what they say....bank is a certified along approve by gov and bank negara.....

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post Oct 10 2023, 11:42 AM

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baru tau ke? pay more to reduce the principal :X
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:44 AM

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looks like you don't have anything to substantiate your claim, okay thanks.

QUOTE(ameliorate @ Oct 10 2023, 11:30 AM)
You mabuk ketum ke? Again, if they want to change it they can but they won't. No such thing as 'universal'.

I can't do shit because I don't have money to buy house in cash. You pandering to the banks like you own them.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Oct 10 2023, 11:38 AM)
yup, i think is islamic....
i ask the banker,
the banker say no need to see the amount, just pay nia...
it will reduce at the end.....
but pay 7 years already,
the amount still same....
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Haha ......very funny. First few years is something like paying the bank interest from the money you borrowed. Then after that the principal will only go down slowly.

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