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mushigen
post Oct 10 2023, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Oct 10 2023, 09:40 AM)
House loan should follow car loan, max 9 years and fixed interest. Today bought Benz 300k loan 9 years also not this expensive. How come house loan interest so high than car?
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High? Try taking a 30-year car loan for that 300k Merc and see how much interest you will pay.

You are the one who is sohigh.
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Oct 10 2023, 10:09 AM)
Unker also count unker House loan...
Loan 300, after finish 30 year...
Pay around 1 million....
Don't know how...
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Impossible unless got prawn behind rock.

Even average 8% interest rate for this loan pun won't need to pay so much.

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post Oct 10 2023, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Oct 10 2023, 10:14 AM)
The banks are very sneaky. You pay more interest than principal the first 1/3 of the loan duration and then slowly reduce. That's why first 10 years your principal don't reduce much.

They know majority investors will sell off property within this period so they already earn enough from your interest. That's how banks are legal loan sharks.
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Takkan you expect them to cough up hundreds of thousands at risk of you not paying, only to earn peanuts when you sell?
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Oct 10 2023, 10:44 AM)
Don't know,
See dashboard show still own bank almost 1.1 million...
Already pay for 7 years....
Interest pre covid, but the amount need to pay more that pre covid......
Don't know...
Bank dashboard show I still own 1.1 million....
Borrow 300k...
Pay 7 years already.....
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Islamic loan? I was told Islamic loan displays different amount of balance compared to conventional but not sure how much difference.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Oct 10 2023, 11:01 AM)
Now Bang Nuar gonna remove the subsidy, then at least help us to reduce our house loan. Just set bank max can only charge 50% interest of the house loan amount. Problem solved, all happy
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While we're at it, why not ask to increase our employer EPF contribution to 50% too?
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Oct 10 2023, 11:21 AM)
30% for most bank
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Depends... PBB limits to 70% of current account balance - whatever amount you have in the current account, 30% of it will goyang telur.

HLB is 70% of outstanding loan balance.

QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Oct 10 2023, 11:38 AM)
yup, i think is islamic....
i ask the banker,
the banker say no need to see the amount, just pay nia...
it will reduce at the end.....
but pay 7 years already,
the amount still same....
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I was told by the loan officer that Islamic loan is not the same as conventional... "it may be difficult for laymen to understand". You should call the bank to check your outstanding amount.


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post Oct 10 2023, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(spider955 @ Oct 10 2023, 12:38 PM)
You remind me my 3rd landed house loan
House Price: rm430k
Downpayment : Rm130k ( Big hole on my ASB)
Loan + MRTT : 311k
Tenure :11 years...yess i make 11 years loan!! starting april 2017
Monthy Rm2700-RM29++ (depend on BLR) best year during covid...reject moratorium since iam gov staff gaji tetap jalan
Today outstanding: 181k
Total bank makan for 11 years loan estimate: RM98k , yeah got pro and cons when high downpayment, shorter time but kill my itik telur emas ASB..
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IMO, you lose money by taking out from ASB to pay more downpayment if ASB gives you higher interest rate compared to home loan - especially for gomen staff kan? You only gain from potentially lower MRTT premium.
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Oct 10 2023, 02:43 PM)
Bro can you explain what you mean by the 70% limit? I have a PBB housing loan (Islamic) and I’m planning to put a big bunch of cash from FD in there. Are you saying they only accept max of 70% outstanding loan amount paid in advance?
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This is what I know about full flexi PBB and HLB loans based on my experience. Full flexi loans have loan account and another current account opened to facilitate payment.

HLB: let's say loan balance is RM100k. If you put in RM80k in this current acc, only RM70k will be used to offset the interest in the loan.

PBB: loan balance is RM100k. If you put RM80k in the current account, only RM80k*70% will be used to offset the interest in the loan.

For semi-flexi conventional loan, PBB allows 100% offset if you pay a lump sump (but not sure how to do it, either at counter or online), the catch is you cannot or it's very difficult if at all to draw out this extra payment.

For Islamic loan, I have no idea bro.
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Oct 10 2023, 02:54 PM)
do you really think they buy using own name and own pocket money?
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They use fama's money?
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Oct 10 2023, 02:58 PM)
what do you think?
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Idk, you tell me since you gave the impression as if people don't use own money and name to buy RM2m houses.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Oct 10 2023, 03:00 PM)
maybank is the best then, can offset 100%  smile.gif
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You cannot offset 100%. Will auto close account wei.

The last time I asked, Maybank full flexi comes with compulsory overdraft facility. You don''t use put kena pay some fee (can't remember what it's called). The semi flexi is easier compared to PBB in terms of withdrawing excess payment when you need it iirc.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Oct 10 2023, 03:00 PM)
FAMA fund is good...if not company money lo
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Those doctors and proffessionals, takkan all of them buy using company money? I wonder how you come to the conclusion people don't use own money and name to buy RM2mln properties. It's not that expensive for these people.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Oct 10 2023, 03:05 PM)
my account never closed. put 300k in, 300k interest less. That's 100%  whistling.gif
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What's your outstanding loan amount?
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Oct 10 2023, 03:11 PM)
300,010. left rm10 there to enjoy free overdraft facility  biggrin.gif
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Ceh.. that means not 100% offset lo.
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post Oct 10 2023, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Oct 10 2023, 03:15 PM)
ok, 99.999999% if you want to be precise  biggrin.gif
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Try putting in another RM10 and see whether the loan is automatically settled or not lo.
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post Oct 10 2023, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Oct 10 2023, 04:15 PM)
lets say u borrow 500k for 30 year 4%, at the end u have to pay 359k interest on top of the 500k.

but if u pay 100k downpayment and borrow 400k for 30 years at 4%, at the end u have to pay 287k interest on top of 500k.

difference is u save rm 72k on interest

but, if u take that 100k and dump into epf lets say 5.5% for 30 years, u will have 498k after 30 years.

minus the 72k due to house loan interest difference, u still have 426k extra.

so for me, is really no brainer la, i sure whack highest loan tenure as possible and save the money elsewhere with higher return than house loan.

but will get in trouble if use it to leverage and borrow more to goreng house. once opr hike more than epf rate then gg
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Borrow 400k, va 500k. You pay less monthly installments for 400k loan.
You forgot to add the interest you will gain if you invest this installment difference every month by putting inside epf.
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post Oct 10 2023, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(sihamsedap @ Oct 10 2023, 05:21 PM)
how to pay principal if u have flexi loan account

i use cimb online the cibai sotong dun let me pay, macam need to raise instructions over the counter
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Is there any cap or limit on interest deduction?
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QUOTE(loui @ Oct 10 2023, 09:48 PM)
Tumpang threat also

If I have savings 40k per year

Should I put it into EPF or advance payment for housing loan
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My take:
Depends on your age - epf gives higher interest but money will be locked. Excess pymt to loan may still be available to you if you suddenly need the cash.

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post Oct 11 2023, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:50 AM)
Macam only sotong flexi got principal reduction. Dump more then pay less.

Other banks flexi u still commit to a fixed amount monthly regardless paying extra or not.
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You mean installment amount, right?

That is a double-edged sword. Same installment amount when you dump more money means your interest accrued at the end of the loan tenure is less kot.

 

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