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post Oct 3 2023, 12:55 PM

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TS got consider solar panel will degrade over time?
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Oct 3 2023, 12:31 PM)
47k. my tnb bill less than rm150 a month.
given i use rm150 every month.
need 26 years to ROI?
no thanks
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i guess you didn't read carefully.

its ok..... cool2.gif
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(jay @ Oct 3 2023, 12:55 PM)
TS got consider solar panel will degrade over time?
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Tier one is 30 years plus.

ok lah.....

degradation in yield is about 1% a year roughly cool2.gif
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 3 2023, 12:22 PM)
It is ROI.
But the ROI needs to minus off any maintainence fee /interest (if borrowing from bank) and asset depreciation.
TS doesn't include Asset depreciation so it's kind of flawed
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i guess you didn't do accounts.....

just make it simple; cool2.gif

a) cash out to buy the project
b) cash in over 10 and 20 years

calculate payback (in years) and internal rate of return.

depreciation irrelevant.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 3 2023, 12:26 PM)
Biggest unknown is inverter. That's why need warranty + reputable brand for this.

Solar panel being passive will last very long.
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quality inverter important

10 years back was SMA (german)

now more choice cool2.gif
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(jellomeat @ Oct 3 2023, 12:51 PM)
Appreciate for sharing some of your bill details.

Seems like you might not be comparing it so accurately when u said rm800 went down to rm40+?

Based on your example, if you used rm839.50 per month before solar installation, and your generation is rm552.90, you still need to fork out roughly rm300 per month? Maybe even more today since there is a surcharge of Rm0.10 / KWh, if your consumption is more than rm780 per month since July 2023?

Edit: Oh, u modified your drillz edi. Aiya ts, u only consumed 1240KWh (rm600) recently..
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Again i will reiterate. My latest 3 months bill before solar installation is RM800+ and RM900+.

After installing solar my consumption drop to RM500-600. I theorize that it's because during daytime all the solar energy i generated get consumed by the house first before diverting the excess to TNB. In short the price difference probably is the amount of electricity i used during daytime which is about rm200-300.


QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 3 2023, 12:53 PM)
Question

1. 1600kWh usage but didnt kena ICPT charges?

2. If roof leaking during rain have to remove solar panels to fix?
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1. probably because during daytime the energy generated get consumed first before sending the excess to TNB.

2) Yes need to remove panel only repair. so u have to arrange them to come buka, then roofer repair, then arrange them come pasang back . that's why it's very important to make sure your roof no such issue before install. They recommend new house stay few years no issue just install.


QUOTE(jay @ Oct 3 2023, 12:55 PM)
TS got consider solar panel will degrade over time?
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yes. in fact it didnt degrade. Because my uncle installed them 2010. Until now he said the energy produced same only. Already 10 years no different. Main reason why i feel confident to install.

This post has been edited by netflix2019: Oct 3 2023, 01:13 PM
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:15 PM

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Just a sidenote, unless youre using a hybrid inverter, if u wanna use battery later on after NEM no longer applies you have to change your inverter.

Also bsrnya rumah u. 26pcs of 550W panels? Duduk mansion ka? Hebat.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 01:08 PM)
Again i will reiterate. My latest 3 months bill before solar installation is RM800+ and RM900+.

After installing solar my consumption drop to RM500-600. I theorize that it's because during daytime all the solar energy i generated get consumed by the house first before diverting the excess to TNB. In short the price difference probably is the amount of electricity i used during daytime which is about rm200-300.
1. probably because during daytime the energy generated get consumed first before sending the excess to TNB.

2) Yes need to remove panel only repair. so u have to arrange them to come buka, then roofer repair, then arrange them come pasang back . that's why it's very important to make sure your roof no such issue before install. They recommend new house stay few years no issue just install.
yes. in fact it didnt degrade. Because my uncle installed them 2010. Until now he said the energy produced same only. Already 10 years no different. Main reason why i feel confident to install.
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Okay, thank you ts for the explanation.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:16 PM

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nice TS

mine average RM 700-800 bill reduce to RM 17 in the first month of using solar

top fucking kek

can blast more aircon as my expectation is pay no more than RM 50 per month
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(neolombax @ Oct 3 2023, 01:15 PM)
Just a sidenote, unless youre using a hybrid inverter, if u wanna use battery later on after NEM no longer applies you have to change your inverter.

Also bsrnya rumah u. 26pcs of 550W panels? Duduk mansion ka? Hebat.
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semi-D. But i request they sumbat as many as possible. It's absolutely maximum for my roof.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 3 2023, 12:53 PM)
Question

1. 1600kWh usage but didnt kena ICPT charges?

2. If roof leaking during rain have to remove solar panels to fix?
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Nope. But depends on the 1600kwh is total or import only.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(neolombax @ Oct 3 2023, 01:15 PM)
Just a sidenote, unless youre using a hybrid inverter, if u wanna use battery later on after NEM no longer applies you have to change your inverter.

Also bsrnya rumah u. 26pcs of 550W panels? Duduk mansion ka? Hebat.
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oh ya, mine is hybrid inverter. Seller said just upgrade battery. The only thing i need to worry is battery capacity. But that thing 10 years later only see how.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:22 PM

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pray your roof dont have leaks later on laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Oct 3 2023, 12:21 PM)
first time fine,
2nd time could be jail already.

good luck.

if smart meter, more gg.

every hourly usage pattern is all recorded inside the meter.
including, V, A, PF, Wh, Varh, VAh, angle and etc.
got hourly, daily and monthly profile. all recorded.
if the meter with modem, mean all data already uploaded to server database.

even burn the meter, as long as the memory chip is alive, still can extract the data out.
even u open the terminal cover, also recorded date and time.
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QUOTE(seraph00 @ Oct 3 2023, 12:26 PM)
needs to be 3 phase. i have enquired to a solar company and that is one of the first questions they ask.
you can fined upwards of 20k if you are not careful. lel.
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 12:30 PM)
tell your bro don't play. He will get caught. So far i surveyed most friend/family who adjusted meter kena. You just need to ask when no one is around, they will confess.

Malaysia is like that. Before kantoi they tell 9 street what they did how they untung. After kantoi they keep quiet only cos face more important than anything else.

I just glad they changed to digital meter never kantoi me. This adjusted meter thing is a major hindrance that is preventing me from installing solar years ago. I could have gotten NEM2.0 if not because of it.
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Well he just recently changed gate + shift meter. TNB contractor didnt suspect anything so i guess its good to go

QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 3 2023, 12:52 PM)
one of my friend did that with smart meter, he tap the electricity cable from the main and use it for living hall aircond only. His bill is around RM200 and so far 2-3 years didn't kantoi.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(SurpriseZZZZZ @ Oct 3 2023, 10:52 AM)
Do you know the NEM only valid for 10 years? Your "return" has an expiry date. Year 1-5 trying to recover, then Year 6-10 you earn some. Year 11 onwards, you are on your own.
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After 10 years depend if TNB want to renew the contract or not otherwise users just rugi the storage part. You do still enjoyed the generated power during the day ya and is FREE yo....
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 01:19 PM)
oh ya, mine is hybrid inverter. Seller said just upgrade battery. The only thing i need to worry is battery capacity. But that thing 10 years later only see how.
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To be honest. These hybrid inverter just fancy feature. After 10 years, there is a big possibility u already change it.

Battery also limited selection. Compatible batteries or proprietary sure cost more
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 3 2023, 01:22 PM)
Well he just recently changed gate + shift meter. TNB contractor didnt suspect anything so i guess its good to go
Wow tap? Winrar
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Tnb contractor tell me this la. Dunno how true it is la. They know which house got steal. They mark it. After certain years only action taken. If take action early, less money.
Dunno how true la

They came to my house to change the fuse blown last time.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 3 2023, 01:23 PM)
To be honest. These hybrid inverter just fancy feature. After 10 years, there is a big possibility u already change it.

Battery also limited selection. Compatible batteries or proprietary sure cost more
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Ya true. 10 years time the technology should leap and bound. No use worry so much now. Also it seems to be in consumer favor judging on the past history.
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 3 2023, 01:22 PM)
Well he just recently changed gate + shift meter. TNB contractor didnt suspect anything so i guess its good to go
Wow tap? Winrar
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Curi electric sure got sleepless nights one .... kena caught will get fine ten thousands of RM at least... better install solar, can sleep better and live longer biggrin.gif ...

This post has been edited by etan26: Oct 3 2023, 01:27 PM
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 01:26 PM)
Ya true. 10 years time the technology should leap and bound.  No use worry so much now. Also it seems to be in consumer favor judging on the past history.
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In fact, my concern down the road is the safety. Overseas they check cables and connection every year. In Malaysia, I am not too confident

String inverter has a chance to catch fire due to arc fault. There are cases where it happen because string inverter deal with high dc.

That’s why I didn’t go for that. I just want peace of mind.

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