everyday we turn on aircond 1 hour on timer before sleep.
average bill is rm40. sometimes open aircond during daytime if too hot.
but same only for 1 hours lidat
2 person, both working.
Home solar 4 months in.
Home solar 4 months in.
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Oct 3 2023, 01:29 PM
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everyday we turn on aircond 1 hour on timer before sleep.
average bill is rm40. sometimes open aircond during daytime if too hot. but same only for 1 hours lidat 2 person, both working. |
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Oct 3 2023, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 3 2023, 01:22 PM) Well he just recently changed gate + shift meter. TNB contractor didnt suspect anything so i guess its good to go Because Malaysia boleh. The guy job is to shift meter not catching ppl steal electric. Much like PDRM won't catch u no wear seatbelt while driving. They can, and some do, but super rare. If your bro area a lot ppl curi electric they will definitely come. My housing area kena raid 2 times i think, most of them also end up using solar after digital meter switch. It's just not worth the daily anxiety and the risk. Also super bad karma. Malaysian complain about BN songlap, but the truth is almost all Malaysian songlap from government/workplace one way or another. The next time ur bro talk about politician corrupt etc, tell him he is not any better. Just amount smaller, got less zero. driftmeister, kennykck, and 6 others liked this post
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Oct 3 2023, 01:32 PM
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Oct 3 2023, 01:37 PM
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Oct 3 2023, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 3 2023, 11:37 AM) Problem is we can’t put 47k straight into year 1. Coz we don’t have the money upfront. Solar don’t need 47k upfront. Just need monthly commitment. U don’t do solar, the 47 k goes to Tnb anyway. And in fact , over 10 years 90k goes to Tnb. QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 11:45 AM) 47k/36=RM1306 pm.Put in epf at 5.5%, you'll earn rm4208 interest and will have RM5,1224 after 36 months. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « After this 36 months, for the next 7 years, you will earn rm23,989 in interest giving you the total rm75213. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « For year 11, you will earn RM4242 interest, translating to RM353 per month. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « If you're not able to extend NEM, your PV must offset RM350 pm to break even. Don't forget that your EPF money is still there for you to withdraw, whereas your PV and its peripheral hardware are considered sunk costs and are basically worthless if you decide to give up on it (no/low resale value). Will it add to your house market value? Not sure. This write-off is not taken into account in the untung-rugi calculation. It essentially means at the wnd of Year 10, your TNB savings is just RM15k (at current tariffs and consumption) more than your EPF balance, but your epf continues to grow while your solar panel system continues to deteriorate in terms of performance and resale value while requiring maintenance. |
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Oct 3 2023, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 01:08 PM) Again i will reiterate. My latest 3 months bill before solar installation is RM800+ and RM900+. From the solar app, get the monthly generationAfter installing solar my consumption drop to RM500-600. I theorize that it's because during daytime all the solar energy i generated get consumed by the house first before diverting the excess to TNB. In short the price difference probably is the amount of electricity i used during daytime which is about rm200-300. 1. probably because during daytime the energy generated get consumed first before sending the excess to TNB. 2) Yes need to remove panel only repair. so u have to arrange them to come buka, then roofer repair, then arrange them come pasang back . that's why it's very important to make sure your roof no such issue before install. They recommend new house stay few years no issue just install. yes. in fact it didnt degrade. Because my uncle installed them 2010. Until now he said the energy produced same only. Already 10 years no different. Main reason why i feel confident to install. Then from monthly generation, minus the export. That is your morning usage. Add your morning usage with import. That is your total kWh usage. From total kWh usage, go to Tnb calculator. Key in An’s get the estimated bill of the kWh. |
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Oct 3 2023, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 3 2023, 01:39 PM) 47k/36=RM1306 pm. First, we don’t have the money to put in kwsp one lump sum like that. Put in epf at 5.5%, you'll earn rm4208 interest and will have RM5,1224 after 36 months. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « After this 36 months, for the next 7 years, you will earn rm23,989 in interest giving you the total rm75213. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « For year 11, you will earn RM4242 interest, translating to RM353 per month. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « If you're not able to extend NEM, your PV must offset RM350 pm to break even. Don't forget that your EPF money is still there for you to withdraw, whereas your PV and its peripheral hardware are considered sunk costs and are basically worthless if you decide to give up on it (no/low resale value). Will it add to your house market value? Not sure. This write-off is not taken into account in the untung-rugi calculation. It essentially means at the wnd of Year 10, your TNB savings is just RM15k (at current tariffs and consumption) more than your EPF balance, but your epf continues to grow while your solar panel system continues to deteriorate in terms of performance and resale value while requiring maintenance. So your calculation lari by a lot dy. Second. , we are using money we set aside monthly. to pay Tnb. So that money is not for investment for kwsp also. So your calculation become irrrelevant dy. The analogy is I need to pay 300 bus lrt pass every month to go to work I use thr 300 to py for a cheap car, kancil and the total maintenance for then car monthly and petrol is only rm300 So I my transportation method just changed. But my commitment still same. The money is never for epf coz it is a necessary spending to work. End of the payment , I got a car, and I can save a bit, and maybe hook up an awek in the kancil. Hahahah. |
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Oct 3 2023, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 3 2023, 01:43 PM) First, we don’t have the money to put in kwsp one lump sum like that. Ur calculations incorrect too.So your calculation lari by a lot dy. Second. , we are using money we set aside monthly. to pay Tnb. So that money is not for investment for kwsp also. So your calculation become irrrelevant dy. The analogy is I need to pay 300 bus lrt pass every month to go to work I use thr 300 to py for a cheap car, kancil and the total maintenance for then car monthly and petrol is only rm300 So I my transportation method just changed. But my commitment still same. The money is never for epf coz it is a necessary spending to work. End of the payment , I got a car, and I can save a bit, and maybe hook up an awek in the kancil. Hahahah. Usually for solar panel installation u need to pay deposit, then balance via installment i think 24mths or 36mths only. So u need to pay monthly installment plus the monthly electric bill. That is excluding maintenance charges too (if any) and that mostly new subscribers are unable to provide the info. |
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Oct 3 2023, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 3 2023, 01:47 PM) Ur calculations incorrect too. No la. Nowaday it’s already zero entry. I don’t know if some company still charge deposit but the one I got into no deposit la. Even if got also can be 60 month. Usually for solar panel installation u need to pay deposit, then balance via installment i think 24mths or 36mths only. So u need to pay monthly installment plus the monthly electric bill. That is excluding maintenance charges too (if any) and that mostly new subscribers are unable to provide the info. For me, The total cost is divided to 48- 60 months. I paid everything via installment. No deposit at All. My new Tnb monthly bill only rm3. So insignificant la. |
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Oct 3 2023, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 3 2023, 01:50 PM) No la. Nowaday it’s already zero entry. I don’t know if some company still charge deposit but the one I got into no deposit la. Even if got also can be 60 month. Mind to share how much was ur electric bill before using solar?For me, The total cost is divided to 48- 60 months. I paid everything via installment. No deposit at All. My new Tnb monthly bill only rm3. So insignificant la. And how much total paid for solar? And how long u using solar already and any maintenance ? |
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Oct 3 2023, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 12:30 PM) tell your bro don't play. He will get caught. So far i surveyed most friend/family who adjusted meter kena. You just need to ask when no one is around, they will confess. I hear from kopitiam blow water session that there's this someone who adjust the meter n year ago -> tnb sent letter wanna change smart meter (whole taman) and he normalize back the meter -> tnb lai change smart meter -> readjust the smart meter Malaysia is like that. Before kantoi they tell 9 street what they did how they untung. After kantoi they keep quiet only cos face more important than anything else. I just glad they changed to digital meter never kantoi me. This adjusted meter thing is a major hindrance that is preventing me from installing solar years ago. I could have gotten NEM2.0 if not because of it. Psst ... he very diam bout this, very the diam unlike those lak kaw bu chiet mouth like a loud speaker. I hear he's been on the tnb discounted rate for > 10 year. Duno what usage is before but after discount its around Rm150+- Kasi bakar the meter and get tnb to install new one -> install ur solar. |
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Oct 3 2023, 02:00 PM
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ni on aircond macam hotel
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Oct 3 2023, 02:01 PM
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My monthly bill currently is around RM200. I'm not sure if getting into solar is a worthy venture.
Is there any option if my consumption is just RM200? |
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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 3 2023, 01:43 PM) First, we don’t have the money to put in kwsp one lump sum like that. I have made a mistake. My earlier calculation did not include the RM750 monthly TNB savings from the PV installation. Let me get back to my drawing board So your calculation lari by a lot dy. Second. , we are using money we set aside monthly. to pay Tnb. So that money is not for investment for kwsp also. So your calculation become irrrelevant dy. The analogy is I need to pay 300 bus lrt pass every month to go to work I use thr 300 to py for a cheap car, kancil and the total maintenance for then car monthly and petrol is only rm300 So I my transportation method just changed. But my commitment still same. The money is never for epf coz it is a necessary spending to work. End of the payment , I got a car, and I can save a bit, and maybe hook up an awek in the kancil. Hahahah. |
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 3 2023, 01:22 PM) Well he just recently changed gate + shift meter. TNB contractor didnt suspect anything so i guess its good to go those normal TNB contractor will not able to catch.Wow tap? Winrar cause they no access into the meter. only extremely limited people and the manufacturer know how to access into the meter to get the data, all running DLMS with Security suite 0 or 1. actually no way to hack or break inside. |
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Oct 3 2023, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 3 2023, 01:53 PM) Mind to share how much was ur electric bill before using solar? Okay. I got calculate every month how much I actually saved. And how much total paid for solar? And how long u using solar already and any maintenance ? Many ppl just say before solar how much after solar how much. A bit vague. But I can confirm it’s 80% true. The 20 % is the actual amount saved So far, after 6 months of usage. My actual saving is rm3803.29 and the total kWh I used is 8249.633kwh My system is about 38k. So. I am already hitting 10% of the system cost after 6 months. So far maintenance I haven’t encounter. Later when got free I try send u the calculation I make every month. I keep track all the production and import Some ppl just want rough figure, so they use 8099.63(production) and they multiply with 0.571. Highest tariff. That will get a figure of rm4624. So depend on how u look at it. I stick to my calculation. |
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Oct 3 2023, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(snimple @ Oct 3 2023, 11:39 AM) My bill rm250 max Well…. I hope we can be like u. Living area 2 airconds but very seldom on 3 airconds rooms 12 hours usage daily Kitchen everything electrical no buy gas tangki Water heater 3 bathrooms 2 big 2 small RM800 normal?????? hmmmmmmmm Rm250 is a steal. My was around 500-600. For 2 airconds. Only on at night. The aircond is well maintain…. Dunno where the leakage loserguy liked this post
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Oct 3 2023, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 10:38 AM) Can we do this on commercial shoplot? |
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Oct 3 2023, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 3 2023, 02:03 PM) Okay. I got calculate every month how much I actually saved. Wow saved 3.8K means every month average saved RM633.Many ppl just say before solar how much after solar how much. A bit vague. But I can confirm it’s 80% true. The 20 % is the actual amount saved So far, after 6 months of usage. My actual saving is rm3803.29 and the total kWh I used is 8249.633kwh My system is about 38k. So. I am already hitting 10% of the system cost after 6 months. So far maintenance I haven’t encounter. Later when got free I try send u the calculation I make every month. I keep track all the production and import Some ppl just want rough figure, so they use 8099.63(production) and they multiply with 0.571. Highest tariff. That will get a figure of rm4624. So depend on how u look at it. I stick to my calculation. So do u still paying for electricity bill now? Does your solar has battery? If yes, which NEM are u on now? I understand how much u "saved" is actually depending how much u "sold" the generated electricity back to TNB right? This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Oct 3 2023, 02:13 PM |
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