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post Oct 3 2023, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Oct 3 2023, 11:56 AM)
Maybe is your fridge. I changed my 10 year old fridge, my bill drop average 30rm from 220-250.
Also i noticed if you use air purifier, it is high consumption.
I have similar to both , 3 ac (2 hp + 1hp + 1hp / 8hrs daily), LED bulbs all.
so is quite high if you get 800rm.
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my fridge is also more than 10 years main culprit is the aircond

switch all those long hours aircond to inverter and u will see the diff
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post Oct 3 2023, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 10:53 AM)
me wife and 4 ekor anak.

Average 3 biji aircon every night until morning. +1 study room aircon if star aligned and i get to play game. Even my friends and family shocked about my rm800+ bill. I also dunno why so high really.
800 wth.

Mine also sama, but after reading ure post, ure house 1 phase or 3 phase?
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post Oct 3 2023, 11:59 AM

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Strange question.
I have plans to renovate house, maybe fix/replace roof tiles.
If i am installing Solar Panel, does it mean i dont need to care the part cover by panels?
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post Oct 3 2023, 11:59 AM

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a lot of ppl dont know your meter been modified by ......... : innocent.gif
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:00 PM

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actually if can turn extra electric to cash, i don't mind since my electric bill range RM80 - RM150 max. last year wanted to install but i heard no longer can convert to cash... for just forget it
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:00 PM

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Still don't understand how a house can reach 500++ or 1k++ bills. Mine averages around RM200, when got people come over extended stay open aircond at guest room during morning also at most RM350 only.

WTF you all running until reaching 1.7k even? 1 fridge for every room?
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 3 2023, 11:18 AM)
First. There are many ways to avoid the 50k upfront. Many ppl don’t pay upfront lump sum anymore. 

Maintenance try to nego as long as u can

200-300 bill don’t need 50k upfront

Maybe 20k only.
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it will be still 5+ years, for 20k
and dont lump sum, loan?
the problem is always the hidden cost which most of the public wont know

QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 11:21 AM)
TNB limit the amount of panel u can install to match your monthly bill.

My case example is 26 panel to generate RM700+. So for your case u can only install 12 panel. Only need upfront RM20000. Maybe instead of changing car every 7 years u consider installing solar once?
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i change car every 3~5 years... sweat.gif

btw, i stay in SG...
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(SurpriseZZZZZ @ Oct 3 2023, 11:25 AM)
If rain can clean it how come our exterior wall will still be dirty after years of usage?

Even then solar panel guys been telling us, please clean the panels periodically.

No one is doubting the capability of solar generation but it shall never be glorified and advertised in such a way that it does not come with its challenges.

Read both sides of the stories.
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i read both sides of the stories
which is why i wonder do u even own a car because if you do thn you're real hypocrite yourself

cars and solar panels needs cleaning periodically too
but cars need extra detailing annually
solar panels have ROI, cars don't have ROI
solar panels have non-moving parts, cars have moving part which accelerate wear and tear

so if u think installing solar panels to save your electricity usage and have ROI is wrong, thn i wonder why did u buy a cars in the 1st place which have no ROI, many moving wear and tear parts, depreciating object and needed yearly maintenance on everything?
and both seem to cost about the same price
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 3 2023, 10:54 AM)
My bro house paid 3K for ppl go fix the meter every month bill just RM300.
Can ON aircond whole day
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sure gg. got insider tell me..... cool2.gif

substation supply to taman -> x kwh
every house in taman -> y kwh

x - y kwh = curi

then check which house in that taman suddenly drop in kwh consumption recently.

just pull up chart house by house, very easy see....

soon a team will come to that house and check the meter. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Oct 3 2023, 11:59 AM)
Strange question.
I have plans to renovate house, maybe fix/replace roof tiles.
If i am installing Solar Panel, does it mean i dont need to care the part cover by panels?
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No, solar panels are above the tiles. Rain water will flow in from the uncovered parts higher than the solar panel, so you still need those tiles.

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Nice idea though, lol. They have solar tiles, but I don't think we have them here.
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Oct 3 2023, 11:59 AM)
Strange question.
I have plans to renovate house, maybe fix/replace roof tiles.
If i am installing Solar Panel, does it mean i dont need to care the part cover by panels?
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water proof solar panels a little tricky. most installer pretty bad (ie will leak after installation). some are good. ask them what type of bracket and system they use. cool2.gif
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Oct 3 2023, 12:00 PM)
Still don't understand how a house can reach 500++ or 1k++ bills. Mine averages around RM200, when got people come over extended stay open aircond at guest room during morning also at most RM350 only.

WTF you all running until reaching 1.7k even? 1 fridge for every room?
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electricity is not so much how much you're using
there are different tier on pricing
the more u use, you'll be in a different tier
so if your usage is in a certain tier, it gets expensive real fast

the lesser we use, we're at the lower pricing tier
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(vin6 @ Oct 3 2023, 11:50 AM)
Tell your brother prepare 50k soon - After they change smart meter --- they will cross reference check historical usage and current - then 200% kena fine.
With smart meter possible to stikk hack but 100% kena tangkap because they will monitor the grid total usage not the meter only total usage.
Good luck . lol!

Speaking from friends experience recently.
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Already is smart meter


QUOTE(angelgemini @ Oct 3 2023, 11:51 AM)
when it catch, gg.
should be court case already.
i work this industrial.
my collogue go court before as witness for this.
sound like yours not normal, lol
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QUOTE(billyboy @ Oct 3 2023, 12:05 PM)
sure gg. got insider tell me..... cool2.gif

substation supply to taman -> x kwh
every house in taman -> y kwh

x - y kwh = curi

then check which house in that taman suddenly drop in kwh consumption recently. 

just pull up chart house by house, very easy see....

soon a team will come to that house and check the meter.  biggrin.gif
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Already kena and paid fine, do again lel.

Fine is not much compared to actual electricity use.
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Oct 3 2023, 12:07 PM)
No, solar panels are above the tiles. Rain water will flow in from the uncovered parts higher than the solar panel, so you still need those tiles.

user posted image

Nice idea though, lol. They have solar tiles, but I don't think we have them here.
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Yes I mean like this pic. The panels will add as a layer over roof tiles. Means it provide some weathering over existing tiles, I dont have to rebuild my old tiles.
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Oct 3 2023, 12:00 PM)
Still don't understand how a house can reach 500++ or 1k++ bills. Mine averages around RM200, when got people come over extended stay open aircond at guest room during morning also at most RM350 only.

WTF you all running until reaching 1.7k even? 1 fridge for every room?
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I edited new drillz of my bill.
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:12 PM

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some do it as part of the roof....

this from old SEDA BIPV program....

user posted image
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Oct 3 2023, 12:07 PM)
water proof solar panels a little tricky. most installer pretty bad (ie will leak after installation). some are good. ask them what type of bracket and system they use. cool2.gif
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If like the pic standard installation, I believe there will be leak between the panels. but at least is not directly hitting the tiles.

Global warming getting quite bad, klang valley storm also stronger wind....
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Oct 3 2023, 12:12 PM)
If like the pic standard installation, I believe there will be leak between the panels. but at least is not directly hitting the tiles.

Global warming getting quite bad, klang valley storm also stronger wind....
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true.....however at one time SEDA encouraged BIPV (building integrated photo voltic) and they paid extra tariff. now no more already....i pasted example of picture further up....

some do this for extra light or more aesthetically pleasing.
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Oct 3 2023, 12:12 PM)
some do it as part of the roof....

this from old SEDA BIPV program....

user posted image
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This one is SO COOL!

user posted image
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post Oct 3 2023, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Oct 3 2023, 12:10 PM)
Yes I mean like this pic. The panels will add as a layer over roof tiles. Means it provide some weathering over existing tiles, I dont have to rebuild my old tiles.
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As long as there are no leaks, please remember that the water will still flow under the solar panels from the parts left uncovered by the panels.

Nowadays not easy getting people to climb up there for roofing works. Very expensive even if can find sweat.gif

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