No, solar panels are above the tiles. Rain water will flow in from the uncovered parts higher than the solar panel, so you still need those tiles.



Nice idea though, lol. They have solar tiles, but I don't think we have them here.

As long as there are no leaks, please remember that the water will still flow under the solar panels from the parts left uncovered by the panels.

Nowadays not easy getting people to climb up there for roofing works. Very expensive even if can find

They can access from below.

hmm, sounds like a good deal. anyone got any details or not?

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This post has been edited by loserguy: Jun 26 2025, 09:44 PM

lol, worse

no change or reduce in most cases

GO WAY UP for solar users

This post has been edited by loserguy: Jun 27 2025, 10:19 AM

I buy from you. I pay for the network.

You buy from me. Shouldn't you pay for the network?

But you are accessing the network I paid for when I installed the panels. Anything after the meter is yours, anything before the meter is mine.

If I pay when using your network, why do you not pay when using mine? In your own words, it is not free.

Your network services millions. When you spread it out you still charge everyone.

Mine is divided by one. It is still less than one million times what you are charging. Due to the economies of scale, my cheap wires still cost more than yours. Am I being pretentious or are you being facetious?

This is a monopoly. There is only one buyer so ultimately it decides. But the justification is weak.

Come on. Try to debate this.

Tnb is charging because they argue they spent money on the network and power generation. Solar users do too. So how do you justify only one side paying?

That is a simple question. Not overly complex.

I am not arguing about tnb's infra. Lol tnb can use their own infra for free when buying. But what about mine?

When you buy power from TNB, you pay for their energy, their network including power generation and capacity.

So when TNB buys power from you, why do they only pay for energy? Anything past the meter is part of your costs. Exact same justification that tnb is using.

Why can they sell energy and charge for their infra costs, but buy only energy without paying for infra costs?

This post has been edited by loserguy: Jun 28 2025, 10:02 PM

Solar panel users also need to maintain their panels. It is not something that dropped out of the sky for free. Contrary to what TNB thinks.

Getting what for free? The privilege of selling to TNB? Wow that is high handed. But there is a 10 year NEM contract though.

But to answer your question, we pay when using tnb wires to buy electricity. When TNB buys from us, they can use their own infra or they can charge themselves, suka hati depa la. They are the buyers not us.

But this next one is my point, why is tnb not paying for using my wires when they buy? Similarly when i buy from them I don't charge them for delivering the electricity from the meter to my appliances.

This post has been edited by loserguy: Jun 28 2025, 10:22 PM

Sorry I missed that. Where is the metering point? Between the solar panel and your house? Or is the solar panel between the meter and your house?

err, you are trying to spend more to justify the initial capital outlay? that doesn't really make sense?

He means just subscribe GET to pull your total usage below 1500 kwh. No need to invest 20k+ into solar. Makes sense actually.

Wait for solar panel installers to throw price. Either they throw price, or close shop. Currently they do make a lot of profit ...

Hopefully they include a battery with their package.

Free money, with the solar panels, there is very little consumption going on during those daylight hours.

Although the difference is small, it is still free money.

I think this is a separate scheme. There needs to be a third party who will lease the rooftops from houseowners. It is this third party, most likely the housing developer or your residents association I think, who will be the middle man between TNB and houseowners.

It is more complicated than it sounds because once signed up, most likely cannot do any renovations that will impact the installation. But you still need access to the rooftop watertank and for things like leaking roofs or Astro or TM Unifi installation.

Same problem with the NEM tariff hoohaa recently. How much is TNB going to pay for the export? Based on this, which third party will dare to take that risk?

Also what happens, when you sell the house? Change of names on the contract, completely new contract? Want to collect maintenance also susah, this doesn't seem easy at all. TNB doesn't want all this headache hence the third party.

This post has been edited by loserguy: Jul 1 2025, 06:50 PM

You mean Gsparx as the third party handling the houseowners? Donno. Maybe. Could be a good thing too. Zero capital outlay from the houseowners, straight away get rent money. TNB gets cheap renewable energy. Could be a win-win.

It depends on your usage patterns. This is basically an investment, the same as placing money in ASNB. Do your calculations based on your usage, then see if you are making more money vs just placing your money in ASNB.

If you make more money with solar, then it is worth it.

If ASNB makes you more money, then it is not worth it.

Senang rosak, tak senang rosak, sometimes depends on luck also la. Macam kereta la kan. You can also get someone to hose down the solar panels to clean them every few years. The inverters are usually covered under a warranty.