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post Sep 26 2023, 12:11 PM, updated 2y ago

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Steering rack issues i know are:
1) got noise when turning
2) the steering become sticky to turn (this one is more dangerous to safety)

Dunno why Honda still havent change their supplier

Or is it design issue? hmm.gif

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post Sep 26 2023, 12:12 PM

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for boss ok lor claim every 6 months

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post Sep 26 2023, 12:14 PM

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ada Honda ada awek hisap
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post Sep 26 2023, 12:15 PM

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continue buy honda, they will cut more costs
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post Sep 26 2023, 12:15 PM

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cukur dpt claim warranty
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post Sep 26 2023, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Sep 26 2023, 12:11 PM)
Steering rack issues i know are:
1) got noise when turning
2) the steering become sticky to turn (this one is more dangerous to safety)

Dunno why Honda still havent change their supplier

Or is it design issue? hmm.gif

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baru mau post ,. u sudah post dulu.

sedih la wei. civic my favourite car . baru ingat mau cari used one . but cancel wei like this. gila apa new car pun 3-4 time claim steering rack . out of warranty later memang habis liao
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post Sep 26 2023, 12:21 PM

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I thought Honda parts all the while memang doesn't last long?
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Sep 26 2023, 12:11 PM)
Steering rack issues i know are:
1) got noise when turning
2) the steering become sticky to turn (this one is more dangerous to safety)

Dunno why Honda still havent change their supplier

Or is it design issue? hmm.gif

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post Sep 26 2023, 12:50 PM

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I heard it's a supplier problem, but I also heard it's a design problem... Why is it a design problem because the car is too much for the steering rack to handle...

Also, Honda is well known for their shit quality... How do I know?

I have a 2017 HRV. These are what I've claimed and what I have to fork out from my pocket.

1. Tensioner (Warranty - ~ 20k km)
2. Side Mirror (Warranty)
3. Steering Rack (Warranty)
4. Absorber (Pocket) - I went for Tein because Ori honda shit
5. Lower Arm (Pocket)
6. Bar Bush (Pocket)
7. Rear Axle bush (Pocket - Soon)
8. Rear Absorber mounting (Pocket - Soon)
9. Tensioner + Idle bearing + Belt (Pocket - Soon)
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1 & 2 - Caught by SC inspections

1 & 3 - Very well-known Honda problem on all their cars. If you are lucky, it will last. If not --pocket--

2 - The side mirror was changed under warranty but recently realized the motor started to slow down.

4,5,6,7,8 - Yes, wear and tear... But the fact is my car is only 5 years old, and only driven ~65K before need to change these

3 - Here's the thing: 2 times asked them to check - no issues, only on the 3rd time, Oh steering rack gone after I sent them a knocking sound video when turning left and right. Then only they proceed to do the claim (4 months before warranty end) - LOL


Another very well-known Honda issue is
1. CVT belt, even with normal driving, there is a high chance for it to break before 100k or after 100k. (~RM 4k to replace)
2. Drive Shaft

Another ongoing issue is
1. Clunking sound I've changed so much. Yet there's still sound here and there.
2. Knocking sound from CVT/Drive shafts - Noticed this 2 years after gotten the car but SC say no issue.


If can go for Toyota only... My Innova 2012, 120k. Still with original parts, not even once need to claim warranty or replace. Only recently, there have been signs of wear and tear on bushings. But still feels as good as new and has no annoying sounds.

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post Sep 26 2023, 01:02 PM

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ok what! free food at SC grin.gif
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:14 PM

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my maibi steering also senget to right side....
maybe need alignment...
but no money....
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:15 PM

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Some times sc cheating, my car total got 3 steering rackbushes but they only change the spoil one but charge the fee for 3 , after few months another one break then change whole set again

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post Sep 26 2023, 01:23 PM

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My Honda also got some sounds when go over bump.
Changed stabiliser link, tie rod and rack end and absorbers with mounting. Still got sounds. Doesn’t sound like steering rack knocking sounds also hmm
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Sep 26 2023, 12:17 PM)
baru mau post ,. u sudah post dulu.

sedih la wei. civic my favourite car . baru ingat mau cari used one . but cancel wei like this. gila apa new car pun 3-4 time claim steering rack . out of warranty later memang habis liao
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Honda civic not for human buy second hand one
Due to their insane resale value

If you buy civic second hand, you already waterfish to the first hand user

Second hand need to find value, like Altis or Mazda 3
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(delphine.88 @ Sep 26 2023, 02:23 PM)
My Honda also got some sounds when go over bump.
Changed stabiliser link, tie rod and rack end and absorbers with mounting. Still got sounds. Doesn’t sound like steering rack knocking sounds also hmm
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Its the back absorber bushing.

I kena before. Change one of the back absorber bush. The slight knocking sound isnrantly gone lol.
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:31 PM

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post Sep 26 2023, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 12:50 PM)
I heard it's a supplier problem, but I also heard it's a design problem... Why is it a design problem because the car is too much for the steering rack to handle...

Also, Honda is well known for their shit quality... How do I know?

I have a 2017 HRV. These are what I've claimed and what I have to fork out from my pocket.

1. Tensioner (Warranty - ~ 20k km)
2. Side Mirror (Warranty)
3. Steering Rack (Warranty)
4. Absorber (Pocket) - I went for Tein because Ori honda shit
5. Lower Arm (Pocket)
6. Bar Bush (Pocket)
7. Rear Axle bush (Pocket - Soon)
8. Rear Absorber mounting (Pocket - Soon)
9. Tensioner + Idle bearing + Belt (Pocket - Soon)
------------
1 & 2 - Caught by SC inspections

1 & 3 - Very well-known Honda problem on all their cars. If you are lucky, it will last. If not --pocket--

2 - The side mirror was changed under warranty but recently realized the motor started to slow down.

4,5,6,7,8 - Yes, wear and tear... But the fact is my car is only 5 years old, and only driven ~65K before need to change these

3 - Here's the thing: 2 times asked them to check - no issues, only on the 3rd time, Oh steering rack gone after I sent them a knocking sound when turning left and right. Then only they proceed to do the claim (4 months before warranty end) - LOL
Another very well-known Honda issue is
1. CVT belt, even with normal driving, there is a high chance for it to break before 100k or after 100k. (~RM 4k to replace)
2. Drive Shaft

Another ongoing issue is
1. Clunking sound I've changed so much. Yet there's still sound here and there.
2. Knocking sound from CVT/Drive shafts - Noticed this 2 years after gotten the car but SC say no issue.
If can go for Toyota only... My Innova 2012, 120k. Still with original parts, not even once need to claim warranty or replace. Only recently, there have been signs of wear and tear on bushings. But still feels as good as new and has no annoying sounds.
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Second hand myvi also don't have so much issue Wei
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Sep 26 2023, 01:02 PM)
ok what! free food at SC grin.gif
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Yes, but your time is not included. also for things like steering rack. Need to drop the front subframe inorder to change usually it will take a day or two.
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Sep 26 2023, 01:15 PM)
Some times sc cheating, my car total got 3 steering rackbushes but they only change the spoil one but charge the fee for 3 , after few months another one break then change whole set again
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How did you know your steering rack bush are gone?
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 12:50 PM)
I heard it's a supplier problem, but I also heard it's a design problem... Why is it a design problem because the car is too much for the steering rack to handle...

Also, Honda is well known for their shit quality... How do I know?

I have a 2017 HRV. These are what I've claimed and what I have to fork out from my pocket.

1. Tensioner (Warranty - ~ 20k km)
2. Side Mirror (Warranty)
3. Steering Rack (Warranty)
4. Absorber (Pocket) - I went for Tein because Ori honda shit
5. Lower Arm (Pocket)
6. Bar Bush (Pocket)
7. Rear Axle bush (Pocket - Soon)
8. Rear Absorber mounting (Pocket - Soon)
9. Tensioner + Idle bearing + Belt (Pocket - Soon)
------------
1 & 2 - Caught by SC inspections

1 & 3 - Very well-known Honda problem on all their cars. If you are lucky, it will last. If not --pocket--

2 - The side mirror was changed under warranty but recently realized the motor started to slow down.

4,5,6,7,8 - Yes, wear and tear... But the fact is my car is only 5 years old, and only driven ~65K before need to change these

3 - Here's the thing: 2 times asked them to check - no issues, only on the 3rd time, Oh steering rack gone after I sent them a knocking sound video when turning left and right. Then only they proceed to do the claim (4 months before warranty end) - LOL
Another very well-known Honda issue is
1. CVT belt, even with normal driving, there is a high chance for it to break before 100k or after 100k. (~RM 4k to replace)
2. Drive Shaft

Another ongoing issue is
1. Clunking sound I've changed so much. Yet there's still sound here and there.
2. Knocking sound from CVT/Drive shafts - Noticed this 2 years after gotten the car but SC say no issue.
If can go for Toyota only... My Innova 2012, 120k. Still with original parts, not even once need to claim warranty or replace. Only recently, there have been signs of wear and tear on bushings. But still feels as good as new and has no annoying sounds.
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tldr, I'm more curious when you gonna sell the HRV

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post Sep 26 2023, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(delphine.88 @ Sep 26 2023, 01:23 PM)
My Honda also got some sounds when go over bump.
Changed stabiliser link, tie rod and rack end and absorbers with mounting. Still got sounds. Doesn’t sound like steering rack knocking sounds also hmm
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Is the sound like this?

https://youtu.be/7B1ok5-s3_8
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 26 2023, 01:31 PM)
Toyota Corolla CBU don't want to buy? die die want to buy CKD Civic...padan muka.  rclxms.gif
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Which is toyota corollla cbu? Cross ka?
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Sep 26 2023, 01:54 PM)
Which is toyota corollla cbu? Cross ka?
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post Sep 26 2023, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(em_on @ Sep 26 2023, 01:55 PM)
Altis
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ppl laugh at Altis sales, meanwhile my dad drove Altis 7 years d, nothing to claim under warranty pun
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QUOTE(em_on @ Sep 26 2023, 01:53 PM)
tldr, I'm more curious when you gonna sell the HRV
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Prob in the next 1 or 2 years. Unless CVT or Engine gone. Prob that time will get Cross or Mazda no more Honda

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 26 2023, 01:58 PM)
ppl laugh at Altis sales, meanwhile my dad drove Altis 7 years d, nothing to claim under warranty pun
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Change rack every 10k is a small effort to have awek bj you for free daily in the car

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 26 2023, 01:58 PM)
ppl laugh at Altis sales, meanwhile my dad drove Altis 7 years d, nothing to claim under warranty pun
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People said toyota boring car... Just pump petrol and change oil only, no excitement

Other brand better, can lounge in service center utilise all their amenities, some brand can make friend with towing company and spending day night reading online for info
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Sep 26 2023, 02:04 PM)
People said toyota boring car... Just pump petrol and change oil only, no excitement

Other brand better, can lounge in service center utilise all their amenities, some brand can make friend with towing company and spending day night reading online for info
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Adoi ...
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Sep 26 2023, 01:58 PM)
ppl laugh at Altis sales, meanwhile my dad drove Altis 7 years d, nothing to claim under warranty pun
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my house 2008 altis now clocking 400k km, daily drive and long distance no problem, park under sun everyday somemore
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QUOTE(delphine.88 @ Sep 26 2023, 01:23 PM)
My Honda also got some sounds when go over bump.
Changed stabiliser link, tie rod and rack end and absorbers with mounting. Still got sounds. Doesn’t sound like steering rack knocking sounds also hmm
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check the suspension coil rubber seat, most likely the culprit....

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new car, naiisee to go over speed bump at high speed
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Sampah honda product. Buy mazda better
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Sep 26 2023, 02:04 PM)
People said toyota boring car... Just pump petrol and change oil only, no excitement

Other brand better, can lounge in service center utilise all their amenities, some brand can make friend with towing company and spending day night reading online for info
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For me ill prefer boring car with less tech in it.. more tech in it once gone all gone
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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Sep 26 2023, 02:08 PM)
new car, naiisee to go over speed bump at high speed
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Sure or not? My HRV brand new 20km/h goes over a speed bump and will hit the bump stop already. HAHA
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Shocked to see this thread. I should stop telling people "ada duit beli honda.. no money, then only drive perodua like me."
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 02:19 PM)
Sure or not? My HRV brand new 20km/h goes over a speed bump and will hit the bump stop already. HAHA
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now when ever reach bump, drive slow until 2kmh, drive fast fast no prize
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Sep 26 2023, 02:04 PM)
People said toyota boring car... Just pump petrol and change oil only, no excitement

Other brand better, can lounge in service center utilise all their amenities, some brand can make friend with towing company and spending day night reading online for info
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My acv41 that my dad using now.
2011 car. Just pump petrol and go
And do regular service only.
Good car.


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post Sep 26 2023, 02:25 PM

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I wonder if City is using the same steering rack. I'm having steering rack issue too.
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Honda, the power of dreams ma

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 26 2023, 02:25 PM)
I wonder if City is using the same steering rack. I'm having steering rack issue too.
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They are all different but presumably from the same manufacturer. But the main issue is they might have cheap out or put in an under build steering rack that's why a lot of problems.

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Sep 26 2023, 01:14 PM)
my maibi steering also senget to right side....
maybe need alignment...
but no money....
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Front only rm35
better do it, later uneven tyre wear
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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Sep 26 2023, 02:40 PM)
Front only rm35
better do it, later uneven tyre wear
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impossible 35 only...
maybe around 100++....
my area quite cut throat.....
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Sep 26 2023, 02:52 PM)
impossible 35 only...
maybe around 100++....
my area quite cut throat.....
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Alignment manade RM100+? Usually RM40 iirc.
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Never face such issues yet, coming to 3 years, mileage 18k
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sure or not. even my persona 2016 version nth broken yet. 55k milage.

many of my friends ketam ok jer.
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Every car also got their problem.

Like ma old man Nissan got dashboard peeling problem, got airbag problem, plug coil, etc.

My car pula every other day need to replace lower arm, bush, beering.

Chibai betul
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Sep 26 2023, 03:14 PM)
Every car also got their problem.

Like ma old man Nissan got dashboard peeling problem, got airbag problem, plug coil, etc.

My car pula every other day need to replace lower arm, bush, beering.

Chibai betul
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your car subaru xv?
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your car subaru xv?
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Sep 26 2023, 02:34 PM)
Honda, the power of dreams ma

Means you can only dream of driving the car, don't try to drive for real
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Toyota also had the same problems too, worse is that the die hard fans will plotek and called you a moron if you highlight the problem in the FB group.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 26 2023, 02:53 PM)
Alignment manade RM100+? Usually RM40 iirc.
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my area all around 100++....
even p2 sc also around that price....
plus the road full of holes and bump...
alignment also no use....
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Sep 26 2023, 02:04 PM)
People said toyota boring car... Just pump petrol and change oil only, no excitement

Other brand better, can lounge in service center utilise all their amenities, some brand can make friend with towing company and spending day night reading online for info
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Boring is good.

Problems no good.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Sep 26 2023, 01:14 PM)
my maibi steering also senget to right side....
maybe need alignment...
but no money....
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sure bo? alignment only no money? cry.gif
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family have a city 2021, claimed steering rack once. so far so good. But in fb group all said will come back. Let's see.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 26 2023, 02:25 PM)
My acv41 that my dad using now.
2011 car.  Just pump petrol and go
And do regular service only.
Good car.
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Love the Camry. Not to mention NVH pun sedaps. Comfort and peace of mind. Indeed a good car and good choice.
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welcome to HM, overrated piece of Junk. Own their car since 2015. Claimed 3 times driveshaft cz oil leak. Side mirrors change under warranty cz vibrates at high speed. Juddering brake (this one sure all Model HM will get this) cz using junk made in Thai brakepad.
Things that not declared or even Car Reviewer wont said: - Poor NVH, just a slightly better than P2 model cz Cheapskate/ cut cost for the Sound Insulation material inside the car. ABS Modulator will kiock after warranty ended and need rm8k for my model if change new. Repair at rm1k-1.5k

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TBH, Honda quality has gone down the drain these few years. Ask any Honda owner and they will gladly tell you. Dashboard and interior components are not only plasticky but sharp at the edges which actually cut your hands if you happen to touch the wrong spots. Poor finishing, low quality components are the reasons to be blamed. I guess they tried to hard at cost cutting and hence the poor quality of parts and components.
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QUOTE(blmse92 @ Sep 26 2023, 03:51 PM)
family have a city 2021, claimed steering rack once. so far so good. But in fb group all said will come back. Let's see.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 26 2023, 03:59 PM)
TBH, Honda quality has gone down the drain these few years. Ask any Honda owner and they will gladly tell you. Dashboard and interior components are not only plasticky but sharp at the edges which actually cut your hands if you happen to touch the wrong spots. Poor finishing, low quality components are the reasons to be blamed. I guess they tried to hard at cost cutting and hence the poor quality of parts and components.
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just hope the current owner don't argue on this or die2 say the cars are good. Truth hurts.
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QUOTE(BuKeYi @ Sep 26 2023, 03:50 PM)
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my civic June 2022, Jan 23 Tuk Sound appear and become louder, steering sticky, claimed steering rack at June 2023.

Sept 2023, small Tuk sound is back.. but steering is not sticky..

A nice car to drive, solid interiors, but the steering rack issue is killing this car..

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 26 2023, 04:03 PM)
just hope the current owner don't argue on this or die2 say the cars are good. Truth hurts.
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TBH, the car tech and innovation is good. But its the inferior quality of parts and components and the poor workmanship of CKD units and Thai CBU which is the cause of problems.
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I thought kedai tayar can do alignment. Or yours still under warranty?
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No more warranty.. .
Kedai tayar /workshop / sc around same price...100+++
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TBH, the car tech and innovation is good. But its the inferior quality of parts and components and the poor workmanship of CKD units and Thai CBU which is the cause of problems.
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 12:50 PM)
I heard it's a supplier problem, but I also heard it's a design problem... Why is it a design problem because the car is too much for the steering rack to handle...

Also, Honda is well known for their shit quality... How do I know?

I have a 2017 HRV. These are what I've claimed and what I have to fork out from my pocket.

1. Tensioner (Warranty - ~ 20k km)
2. Side Mirror (Warranty)
3. Steering Rack (Warranty)
4. Absorber (Pocket) - I went for Tein because Ori honda shit
5. Lower Arm (Pocket)
6. Bar Bush (Pocket)
7. Rear Axle bush (Pocket - Soon)
8. Rear Absorber mounting (Pocket - Soon)
9. Tensioner + Idle bearing + Belt (Pocket - Soon)
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1 & 2 - Caught by SC inspections

1 & 3 - Very well-known Honda problem on all their cars. If you are lucky, it will last. If not --pocket--

2 - The side mirror was changed under warranty but recently realized the motor started to slow down.

4,5,6,7,8 - Yes, wear and tear... But the fact is my car is only 5 years old, and only driven ~65K before need to change these

3 - Here's the thing: 2 times asked them to check - no issues, only on the 3rd time, Oh steering rack gone after I sent them a knocking sound video when turning left and right. Then only they proceed to do the claim (4 months before warranty end) - LOL
Another very well-known Honda issue is
1. CVT belt, even with normal driving, there is a high chance for it to break before 100k or after 100k. (~RM 4k to replace)
2. Drive Shaft

Another ongoing issue is
1. Clunking sound I've changed so much. Yet there's still sound here and there.
2. Knocking sound from CVT/Drive shafts - Noticed this 2 years after gotten the car but SC say no issue.
If can go for Toyota only... My Innova 2012, 120k. Still with original parts, not even once need to claim warranty or replace. Only recently, there have been signs of wear and tear on bushings. But still feels as good as new and has no annoying sounds.
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Have the same car and similar list of repair like yours. It's a quality issue. Never again a Malaysia Honda. Lapsap brand.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 26 2023, 01:29 PM)
Its the back absorber bushing.

I kena before. Change one of the back absorber bush. The slight knocking sound isnrantly gone lol.
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But sounds seems come from front passenger side wheel there

QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 01:53 PM)
Is the sound like this?

https://youtu.be/7B1ok5-s3_8
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Ya, very similar. Yours very loud though.
It sounds like something scratch on the bottom when go over bump. Found the culprit?

QUOTE(ahchat @ Sep 26 2023, 02:08 PM)
check the suspension coil rubber seat, most likely the culprit....
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Hmm? Which one is that? Whole suspension changes except coil and cover only
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 26 2023, 04:17 PM)
My ex Vios (1st Gen) should be either ckd or MIT jugak. I have nothing but praise for it. My City meanwhile....
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Sep 26 2023, 04:16 PM)
No more warranty.. .
Kedai tayar /workshop / sc around same price...100+++
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i dunno which workshop u go, every tyre shop I went also charge around 30-60
perodua SC charge around 70+, I know because my sibling is driving perodua. all perodua SC price should be standard

Simply search also can find cheaper, Autohaus KL
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QUOTE(BuKeYi @ Sep 26 2023, 05:08 PM)
i dunno which workshop u go, every tyre shop I went also charge around  30-60
perodua SC charge around 70+, I know because my sibling is driving perodua. all perodua SC price should be standard

Simply search also can find cheaper, Autohaus KL
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QUOTE(BuKeYi @ Sep 26 2023, 05:08 PM)
i dunno which workshop u go, every tyre shop I went also charge around  30-60
perodua SC charge around 70+, I know because my sibling is driving perodua. all perodua SC price should be standard

Simply search also can find cheaper, Autohaus KL
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there are plenty of good tyre shop who perform good alignment and balancing. but mind u, there are plenty that try to scam user by giving the chamber adjustor kit at rm30 per side (+rm120) sometime. Just teach all say F to those parts.

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QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Sep 26 2023, 04:20 PM)
Have the same car and similar list of repair like yours. It's a quality issue. Never again a Malaysia Honda. Lapsap brand.
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Haha those people who recently bought HRV gen 4 are up into some issues down the road. My GF uncle owns one and already complained got sound, LOL. Nice on the outside but quality dog..

QUOTE(delphine.88 @ Sep 26 2023, 04:34 PM)
But sounds seems come from front passenger side wheel there
Ya, very similar. Yours very loud though.
It sounds like something scratch on the bottom when go over bump. Found the culprit?
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Till now, I haven't found the issue, went to 4 Workshops and reinstalled the absorbers a couple of times, but the sound is still there. The only things I could think of were engine mountings, drive shaft, and roll bar bush (currently using OEM, but I bought ORI when getting other parts, and will install them this Thursday). I went to the extreme to install a cam to see what's knocking, but haven't figured out where is it coming from.

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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 06:01 PM)
Haha those people who recently bought HRV gen 4 are up into some issues down the road. My GF uncle owns one and already complained got sound, LOL. Nice on the outside but quality dog..
Till now, I haven't found the issue, went to 4 Workshops and reinstalled the absorbers a couple of times, but the sound is still there. The only things I could think of were engine mountings, drive shaft, and roll bar bush (currently using OEM, but I bought ORI when getting other parts, and will install them this Thursday). I went to the extreme to install a cam to see what's knocking, but haven't figured out where is it coming from.
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Install what cam? Install at tayar area to monitor?
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Install what cam? Install at tayar area to monitor?
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Yes install a cam

https://youtu.be/7B1ok5-s3_8?si=I_vmJGAaYGPl8fg8
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 26 2023, 05:40 PM)
there are plenty of good tyre shop who perform good alignment and balancing. but mind u, there are plenty that try to scam user by giving the chamber adjustor kit at rm30 per side (+rm120) sometime. Just teach all say F to those parts.
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Happend to me once when I go do alignment they say need to install chamber bolt.. That time I don't know so I say ok.. But after that I did my research I went to a WS ask them to remove it.. Lucky I kept the original because chamber bolt can break uppon impact
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My acv41 that my dad using now.
2011 car.  Just pump petrol and go
And do regular service only.
Good car.
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becos that time sat their 2014 benz e200, then sat on the camry and camry is way more comfy and nicer. Only two major issues tht 10 years old camry had (at that time), spoilt spark plug coil & needed to change absorbers
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 06:01 PM)
Haha those people who recently bought HRV gen 4 are up into some issues down the road. My GF uncle owns one and already complained got sound, LOL. Nice on the outside but quality dog..
Till now, I haven't found the issue, went to 4 Workshops and reinstalled the absorbers a couple of times, but the sound is still there. The only things I could think of were engine mountings, drive shaft, and roll bar bush (currently using OEM, but I bought ORI when getting other parts, and will install them this Thursday). I went to the extreme to install a cam to see what's knocking, but haven't figured out where is it coming from.
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I believe the new one only top body and inside changed, underneath it's the same shit all over it.
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 06:01 PM)
Haha those people who recently bought HRV gen 4 are up into some issues down the road. My GF uncle owns one and already complained got sound, LOL. Nice on the outside but quality dog..
Till now, I haven't found the issue, went to 4 Workshops and reinstalled the absorbers a couple of times, but the sound is still there. The only things I could think of were engine mountings, drive shaft, and roll bar bush (currently using OEM, but I bought ORI when getting other parts, and will install them this Thursday). I went to the extreme to install a cam to see what's knocking, but haven't figured out where is it coming from.
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Also check that silly bottom cover. That thing dropped after 5 minutes coming out from SC. They used cable tie to replaced the broken plastic nuts. Useless design. At first I thought it's mechanical thing because the sound come in only when going over bump like thud thud sound.
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So... Proton > Honda now?

inb4 buy 2
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 26 2023, 06:49 PM)
my fav camry, my eldest sister had one before and she was selling it to change to new car, i wanted to buy but no more place to park in my house (occupied by 5 other cars). Still feeling regret till this day for not getting it.

becos that time sat their 2014 benz e200, then sat on the camry and camry is way more comfy and nicer. Only two major issues tht 10 years old camry had (at that time), spoilt spark plug coil & needed to change absorbers
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This is suppose to the best Camry.
Comfy and very good nvh. Hence they say this is the most lexus Camry.

Change absorber is not an issue. Wear and tear only.

Anyway mine still running strong, so far so good. Just do regular service. My dad happy with the car. Just drive. No need worry.

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i don't think honda doesn't wanna fix the issue
claiming a brand new steering rack every 10k KM or 6 month...honda lagi rugi
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QUOTE(delphine.88 @ Sep 26 2023, 01:23 PM)
My Honda also got some sounds when go over bump.
Changed stabiliser link, tie rod and rack end and absorbers with mounting. Still got sounds. Doesn’t sound like steering rack knocking sounds also hmm
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when u got sound when go over bump, it usually is the absorber mounting wearing out due to age
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 06:01 PM)
Haha those people who recently bought HRV gen 4 are up into some issues down the road. My GF uncle owns one and already complained got sound, LOL. Nice on the outside but quality dog..
Till now, I haven't found the issue, went to 4 Workshops and reinstalled the absorbers a couple of times, but the sound is still there. The only things I could think of were engine mountings, drive shaft, and roll bar bush (currently using OEM, but I bought ORI when getting other parts, and will install them this Thursday). I went to the extreme to install a cam to see what's knocking, but haven't figured out where is it coming from.
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Yours also on the front passenger side having that noise?
Update me if changing the bush do the wonders.
Btw did u check in SC also?
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Toyota Corolla CBU don't want to buy? die die want to buy CKD Civic...padan muka.  rclxms.gif
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Altis selow siput only 137ps vs insane 182ps. Mana mungkin dia mau.
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Mine is Honda civic fc 1.8 y2017.

Aircon evaporator spoilt and managed to claim warranty 3k.
Tensioner 1.3k own pocket
Wiper link 350 pocket
Fuel pump 2.3k own pocket
Stabilizer link rm300 own pocket.

Latest is having idle vibration and jerking when car slow down. Engine is rough. Suspect spark plug or ignition coil which will change later this week.
Car is 150k mileage
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QUOTE(delphine.88 @ Sep 26 2023, 07:55 PM)
Yours also on the front passenger side having that noise?
Update me if changing the bush do the wonders.
Btw did u check in SC also?
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Mine, both sides clunking is like metal hitting metal or something loose.

I gave up on SC ever since they gave me an RM10k quote to change the whole underside and also since my warranty ended.
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QUOTE(staind @ Sep 26 2023, 08:02 PM)
Mine is Honda civic fc 1.8 y2017.

Aircon evaporator spoilt and managed to claim warranty 3k.
Tensioner 1.3k own pocket
Wiper link 350 pocket
Fuel pump 2.3k own pocket
Stabilizer link rm300 own pocket.

Latest is having idle vibration and jerking when car slow down. Engine is rough. Suspect spark plug or ignition coil which will change later this week.
Car is 150k mileage
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Try check engine mount.

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Stiff Ring
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Wont help with the steering rack issue this is mainly due to honda.. But will help with comfort and body roll.
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Try check engine mount.
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Thanks.
Engine mount still ok. Just checked at SC during fuel pump change.

If engine mount, vibration will be obvious during D gear and normalise when N.

But my case, it is both RPM and vibration during both D and N gear. The RPM will suddenly jerk up when braking/slow down.
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QUOTE(staind @ Sep 26 2023, 09:03 PM)
Thanks.
Engine mount still ok. Just checked at SC during fuel pump change.

If engine mount, vibration will be obvious during D gear and normalise when N.

But my case, it is both RPM and vibration during both D and N gear. The RPM will suddenly jerk up when braking/slow down.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Sep 26 2023, 12:11 PM)
Steering rack issues i know are:
1) got noise when turning
2) the steering become sticky to turn (this one is more dangerous to safety)

Dunno why Honda still havent change their supplier

Or is it design issue? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Sep 27 2023, 10:05 AM)
Unlucky. Been using Honda for past 50 years from accord to crv, now crz and hrv. Never had problems, however prefer imported from Japan than lokal assembled.
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 06:01 PM)
Haha those people who recently bought HRV gen 4 are up into some issues down the road. My GF uncle owns one and already complained got sound, LOL. Nice on the outside but quality dog..
Till now, I haven't found the issue, went to 4 Workshops and reinstalled the absorbers a couple of times, but the sound is still there. The only things I could think of were engine mountings, drive shaft, and roll bar bush (currently using OEM, but I bought ORI when getting other parts, and will install them this Thursday). I went to the extreme to install a cam to see what's knocking, but haven't figured out where is it coming from.
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Could be ball joints, stabilizer links.
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QUOTE(aquest @ Sep 26 2023, 07:59 PM)
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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Sep 27 2023, 09:56 AM)
Maybe ignition/plug issue
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Yes, that is my thought.
Plug was replaced with original Honda iridium last year. Coil never changed before.

Going to get it replaced next week.
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 08:49 PM)
Wont help with the steering rack issue this is mainly due to honda.. But will help with comfort and body roll.
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Could be ball joints, stabilizer links.
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Stabilizer link also changed. Ball joints.. will check tomorrow. But it should be good since I change the whole lower arm.
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All replacement part in stock are lemon
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topkek...sound like my friend exact copied case... but he on CRV.
i think now he on 35~40K(something like that) using 4th or 5th steering rack including the stock coming with car.

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Sep 27 2023, 12:28 PM)
topkek...sound like my friend exact copied case... but he on CRV.
i think now he on 35~40K(something like that) using 4th or 5th steering rack including the stock coming with car.
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Thanks.
Engine mount still ok. Just checked at SC during fuel pump change.

If engine mount, vibration will be obvious during D gear and normalise when N.

But my case, it is both RPM and vibration during both D and N gear. The RPM will suddenly jerk up when braking/slow down.
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Yes, that is my thought.
Plug was replaced with original Honda iridium last year. Coil never changed before.

Going to get it replaced next week.
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misfires/knocks usually captured by car's ecu, maybe ask the to check?

My old BMW no OBD2, need to test and check manually

QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 27 2023, 11:32 AM)
My civic fc claimed compressor once and steering rack once within 2 years

Then kena stole at 3rd year
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Aih i was aiming for civic, sad to read all these.

What model would you guys suggest as an alternative to it? mainly going for civic because of the horsepower & reliability, spaciousness not priority.
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Waiting for Type R civic one day, prob 2012 or 2020.
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Why continue giving same part which is bad quality? Cuz stock banyak can't change to other?
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Just change the part out of pocket, then suddenly the issue will be solved. Compared to claim using warranty.

Don't know how, but it is like that.
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Aih i was aiming for civic, sad to read all these.

What model would you guys suggest as an alternative to it? mainly going for civic because of the horsepower & reliability, spaciousness not priority.
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reliability ofc Toyota
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Aih i was aiming for civic, sad to read all these.

What model would you guys suggest as an alternative to it? mainly going for civic because of the horsepower & reliability, spaciousness not priority.
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Denso iridium best
misfires/knocks usually captured by car's ecu, maybe ask the to check?

My old BMW no OBD2, need to test and check manually
Insurance paid?
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Saw one for 150k. Prefer JDM.
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plus there was quite some fd2r in labuan last time, now not much anymore since most of it crashed and i saw alot of those wrecked put at the car workshops waiting for insurance claims. it's a car that you shouldn't push too much on public roads. Didn't saw other sports car models crashed as much as fd2r in labuan
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 12:50 PM)
I heard it's a supplier problem, but I also heard it's a design problem... Why is it a design problem because the car is too much for the steering rack to handle...

Also, Honda is well known for their shit quality... How do I know?

I have a 2017 HRV. These are what I've claimed and what I have to fork out from my pocket.

1. Tensioner (Warranty - ~ 20k km)
2. Side Mirror (Warranty)
3. Steering Rack (Warranty)
4. Absorber (Pocket) - I went for Tein because Ori honda shit
5. Lower Arm (Pocket)
6. Bar Bush (Pocket)
7. Rear Axle bush (Pocket - Soon)
8. Rear Absorber mounting (Pocket - Soon)
9. Tensioner + Idle bearing + Belt (Pocket - Soon)
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1 & 2 - Caught by SC inspections

1 & 3 - Very well-known Honda problem on all their cars. If you are lucky, it will last. If not --pocket--

2 - The side mirror was changed under warranty but recently realized the motor started to slow down.

4,5,6,7,8 - Yes, wear and tear... But the fact is my car is only 5 years old, and only driven ~65K before need to change these

3 - Here's the thing: 2 times asked them to check - no issues, only on the 3rd time, Oh steering rack gone after I sent them a knocking sound video when turning left and right. Then only they proceed to do the claim (4 months before warranty end) - LOL
Another very well-known Honda issue is
1. CVT belt, even with normal driving, there is a high chance for it to break before 100k or after 100k. (~RM 4k to replace)
2. Drive Shaft

Another ongoing issue is
1. Clunking sound I've changed so much. Yet there's still sound here and there.
2. Knocking sound from CVT/Drive shafts - Noticed this 2 years after gotten the car but SC say no issue.
If can go for Toyota only... My Innova 2012, 120k. Still with original parts, not even once need to claim warranty or replace. Only recently, there have been signs of wear and tear on bushings. But still feels as good as new and has no annoying sounds.
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Wow, 65k mileage and so many issues? My parent's has the 2017 Civic Ketam. Suspension parts are all original, just claimed cooling coil and side mirror. Touch wood, no knocking sound thus far and car still handles like crap above 160 with the stock absorber.
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QUOTE(BuKeYi @ Sep 27 2023, 01:55 PM)
ur situation macam my previous car (Ford)....but is gb issue, so not sure is it related.
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Sep 27 2023, 10:48 PM)
Seems like WRV oso sudah kena
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When it is manufacturing defect, replacement is useless. Need to recall all in-house stock also  laugh.gif
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Seems like WRV oso sudah kena
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This consider kena?

I though that is only asking got kena or not?
Doesn't mean already kena? hmm.gif
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Why continue giving same part which is bad quality? Cuz stock banyak can't change to other?
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 12:50 PM)

Another very well-known Honda issue is
1. CVT belt, even with normal driving, there is a high chance for it to break before 100k or after 100k. (~RM 4k to replace)
2. Drive Shaft

Another ongoing issue is
1. Clunking sound I've changed so much. Yet there's still sound here and there.
2. Knocking sound from CVT/Drive shafts - Noticed this 2 years after gotten the car but SC say no issue.

If can go for Toyota only... My Innova 2012, 120k. Still with original parts, not even once need to claim warranty or replace. Only recently, there have been signs of wear and tear on bushings. But still feels as good as new and has no annoying sounds.
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Yeah I very afraid of cvt issues, the gear shifting very rough (yes a cvt, you can feel the gear shifting/engaging) - I just sold my BRV before end of 6th yr. And this is a family car, not driven hard pun.
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usually when get new car the first 1000km the reason some SA ask us not to rev the car over 3k rpm and dont go genting or tackle all the corner stressing the steerling cause the steel in the car and the lubricant need slowly adapt to each other, but once u high rev and initial D the new car without the first services it will damage your car forever as all the friction already cause damage to your part forever , no matter how many time u do it the mounting friction will forever damage your part
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Stabilizer link also changed. Ball joints.. will check tomorrow. But it should be good since I change the whole lower arm.
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Is your engine mounting still original?
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 28 2023, 08:58 AM)
Yeah I very afraid of cvt issues, the gear shifting very rough (yes a cvt, you can feel the gear shifting/engaging) - I just sold my BRV before end of 6th yr. And this is a family car, not driven hard pun.
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This consider kena?

I though that is only asking got kena or not?
Doesn't mean already kena? hmm.gif
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ppl driving conti now laugh at topkek ckd hondog
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Eh eh kau ni, conti punya issue is on a different level compared to Honda, kay? At least if Honda got problems, you go serbis center they no say you need to wait weeks or months for spare parts (I looking at you pijot and continental-ist Geli-ish potong), they will still try to layan you. For mass market marques, I think Honda after sales service veli good liao. I think UMW sure lose, Toyota only win on less issues, but cust serbis so so only.

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Is your engine mounting still original?
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Yup, today I went and replaced my lower arm a second time, and so far, no sound.. The previous one, the bushing was not that good even tho used for about 1 year (OEM).
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 28 2023, 03:10 PM)
Eh eh kau ni, conti punya issue is on a different level compared to Honda, kay? At least if Honda got problems, you go serbis center they no say you need to wait weeks or months for spare parts (I looking at you pijot and continental-ist Geli-ish potong), they will still try to layan you. For mass market marques, I think Honda after sales service veli good liao. I think UMW sure lose, Toyota only win on less issues, but cust serbis so so only.
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Nah, my VW zero serious issue in 4 years, only the air filter need to change and the push start button where they changed for me the same day i did my major service, 0 waiting for parts
and ppl said VW quality sux topkek
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Nah, my VW zero serious issue in 4 years, only the air filter need to change and the push start button where they changed for me the same day i did my major service, 0 waiting for parts
and ppl said VW quality sux topkek
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https://kensomuse.com/blog/2016/05/24/rm52k...ess-costs-much/

Good, quality, but but but I poor ppl cannot afford parts, that's why even Honda I quickly bail after warranty over.

Oh btw, yeah VW 4 yrs no prob, spouse got one ex-colleague, bought Polo, say sedap this sedap that, join Polo group la, etc until spouse say wanna try, I say wait, waited few years, start saying gearbox got issue liao, no more warranty, have go here and there looking for cheap repairs. Now quiet ad, but oklah sudah dapat gf masa drive Polo....

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Nah, my VW zero serious issue in 4 years, only the air filter need to change and the push start button where they changed for me the same day i did my major service, 0 waiting for parts
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 28 2023, 03:10 PM)
Eh eh kau ni, conti punya issue is on a different level compared to Honda, kay? At least if Honda got problems, you go serbis center they no say you need to wait weeks or months for spare parts (I looking at you pijot and continental-ist Geli-ish potong), they will still try to layan you. For mass market marques, I think Honda after sales service veli good liao. I think UMW sure lose, Toyota only win on less issues, but cust serbis so so only.
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 28 2023, 03:13 PM)
Yup, today I went and replaced my lower arm a second time, and so far, no sound.. The previous one, the bushing was not that good even tho used for about 1 year (OEM).
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 28 2023, 03:36 PM)
https://kensomuse.com/blog/2016/05/24/rm52k...ess-costs-much/

Good, quality, but but but I poor ppl cannot afford parts, that's why even Honda I quickly bail after warranty over.

Oh btw, yeah VW 4 yrs no prob, spouse got one ex-colleague, bought Polo, say sedap this sedap that, join Polo group la, etc until spouse say wanna try, I say wait, waited few years, start saying gearbox got issue liao, no more warranty, have go here and there looking for cheap repairs. Now quiet ad, but oklah sudah dapat gf masa drive Polo....
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VW polo is jepunis Aisin gerbox weh

still got issue?
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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Sep 28 2023, 09:08 AM)
usually when get new car the first 1000km the reason some SA ask us not to rev the car over 3k rpm and dont go genting or tackle all the corner stressing the steerling cause the steel in the car and the lubricant need slowly adapt to each other, but once u high rev and initial D the new car without the first services it will damage your car forever as all the friction already cause damage to your part forever , no matter how many time u do it the mounting friction will forever damage your part
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 28 2023, 03:36 PM)
https://kensomuse.com/blog/2016/05/24/rm52k...ess-costs-much/

Good, quality, but but but I poor ppl cannot afford parts, that's why even Honda I quickly bail after warranty over.

Oh btw, yeah VW 4 yrs no prob, spouse got one ex-colleague, bought Polo, say sedap this sedap that, join Polo group la, etc until spouse say wanna try, I say wait, waited few years, start saying gearbox got issue liao, no more warranty, have go here and there looking for cheap repairs. Now quiet ad, but oklah sudah dapat gf masa drive Polo....
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More hearsay. Only DCT dry clutch had issues. That Polo normal torque converter reliable
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acbc ur opinion?
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 28 2023, 08:58 AM)
Yeah I very afraid of cvt issues, the gear shifting very rough (yes a cvt, you can feel the gear shifting/engaging) - I just sold my BRV before end of 6th yr. And this is a family car, not driven hard pun.
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My Honda BRV is 6 years now, clocked in 120,000km mileage. Replaced CVT gb oil every 40,000km at Honda SC.
Using it for balik kampung, long distance travels.

So far no CVT problem.

And my honda city hybrid idcd 5 years, clocked in 75,000km, so far no issue on dry DCT.
Changed DCT oil actuator once at outside specialist mech workshop. Soon to change DCT gear oil come 80,000km instead of recommended 160,000km by Honda Malaysia.
Strictly NO CREEPING during heavy traffic jem. Or will do it minimumly if i have to.

Define your “not driven hard.”
Or you did once or twice accelerate quite hard after idling/traffic light stops? hmm.gif

But one thing for BRV, it’s infamous for its driveshaft leaking issue. doh.gif

I replaced the right driver side and claimed warranty.
Then later left side bocor, do it outside since out of warranty already.

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Define your “not driven hard.”
Or you did once or twice accelerate quite hard after idling/traffic light stops?  hmm.gif

But one thing for BRV, it’s infamous for its driveshaft leaking issue.  doh.gif 

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Yeah la driveshaft leaked - it happened during 1st day CNY, so kan cheong cause never seen the drive shaft lubricant consistency not like normal engine lubricant. Then service center not open, searched high and low for a non-chinese workshop, then the foreman say is driveshaft - can wait one. Then only ok.
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 29 2023, 03:06 PM)
Yeah la driveshaft leaked - it happened during 1st day CNY, so kan cheong cause never seen the drive shaft lubricant consistency not like normal engine lubricant. Then service center not open, searched high and low for a non-chinese workshop, then the foreman say is driveshaft - can wait one. Then only ok.
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This issues I think they either use grease incompatible with rubber or the rubber boot used is low quality
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Sep 29 2023, 11:25 AM)
My Honda BRV is 6 years now, clocked in 120,000km mileage. Replaced CVT gb oil every 40,000km at Honda SC.
Using it for balik kampung, long distance travels.

So far no CVT problem.

And my honda city hybrid idcd 5 years, clocked in 75,000km, so far no issue on dry DCT.
Changed DCT oil actuator once at outside specialist mech workshop. Soon to change DCT gear oil come 80,000km instead of recommended 160,000km by Honda Malaysia.
Strictly NO CREEPING during heavy traffic jem. Or will do it minimumly if i have to.

Define your “not driven hard.”
Or you did once or twice accelerate quite hard after idling/traffic light stops?  hmm.gif

But one thing for BRV, it’s infamous for its driveshaft leaking issue.  doh.gif 

I replaced the right driver side and claimed warranty.
Then later left side bocor, do it outside since out of warranty already.
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My 2015 Accord claimed 4 times driveshaft under SC. Due to oil/greasy leak on the floor. Then after warranty ended, change it outside workshop, not sure where they outsource the parts, no more leaking
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 29 2023, 03:06 PM)
Yeah la driveshaft leaked - it happened during 1st day CNY, so kan cheong cause never seen the drive shaft lubricant consistency not like normal engine lubricant. Then service center not open, searched high and low for a non-chinese workshop, then the foreman say is driveshaft - can wait one. Then only ok.
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The Semenyih 4S said it is normal to leak, I was like F face to the service manager and they confirm wont help me claim it under warranty. So proceed with New Era Kajang for claim, smooth action. Believe the parts quality low, they localized it made in Thai? I know the brake pad had issues of juddering for made in Thai one
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Sep 29 2023, 11:25 AM)
My Honda BRV is 6 years now, clocked in 120,000km mileage. Replaced CVT gb oil every 40,000km at Honda SC.
Using it for balik kampung, long distance travels.

So far no CVT problem.

Define your “not driven hard.”
Or you did once or twice accelerate quite hard after idling/traffic light stops?  hmm.gif
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Sorry, I wanted to ask your earlier question about the CVT GB Oil change every 40k - this is your own request or per service schedule? I remember SC only perform the change at 100k, and it was soon after the CVT clunkyness began, so I thought wow just right timing, this should fix it, but it didn't fix the clunkyness, it was reduced but back to the same harshness when gear engage after 1 or 2 weeks.

Not driven hard as in not driven hard >5% of the time. The car had always had issues when emergency braking - when the car comes to a hard stop, I can see the engine RPM goes down to 500rpm, almost stalling - this is related to the CVT gb - before returning to normal RPM.

If accelerate one or twice from idling/traffic light stops is considered the car had been driven hard, then it's a car with princess problems. Things do happen, sometimes you angered another driver and you just want to escape the situation, or you are going up Genting, etc etc. 95% of the time, the car was (cos just sold the car) driven sedately. Mine is almost 6 yrs, almost 130k mileage.

I do give time between changing gears, like make sure car is completely stopped, before engaging reverse, but I see a lot of people (& my spouse) change from D to R immediately, even before the car has come to a complete stop, so that's that la.
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 30 2023, 12:15 AM)
Sorry, I wanted to ask your earlier question about the CVT GB Oil change every 40k - this is your own request or per service schedule? I remember SC only perform the change at 100k, and it was soon after the CVT clunkyness began, so I thought wow just right timing, this should fix it, but it didn't fix the clunkyness, it was reduced but back to the same harshness when gear engage after 1 or 2 weeks.

Not driven hard as in not driven hard >5% of the time. The car had always had issues when emergency braking - when the car comes to a hard stop, I can see the engine RPM goes down to 500rpm, almost stalling - this is related to the CVT gb - before returning to normal RPM.

If accelerate one or twice from idling/traffic light stops is considered the car had been driven hard, then it's a car with princess problems. Things do happen, sometimes you angered another driver and you just want to escape the situation, or you are going up Genting, etc etc. 95% of the time, the car was (cos just sold the car) driven sedately. Mine is almost 6 yrs, almost 130k mileage.

I do give time between changing gears, like make sure car is completely stopped, before engaging reverse, but I see a lot of people (& my spouse) change from D to R immediately, even before the car has come to a complete stop, so that's that la.
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It is indeed 40k km interval CVT oil change. Once u had some abnormal feeling with the CVT GB, just standby. Afraid the belt become poor condition already inside. To get it repair/ replace, I spent rm4k plus for the HRV previous gen

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Can consider get GAC Empow. Macam very good car.
Heard TanChong going to CKD the car soon.

4cylinder 1.5 or 2.0 turbo with 7DCT.
Handling is superb
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 26 2023, 12:50 PM)
I heard it's a supplier problem, but I also heard it's a design problem... Why is it a design problem because the car is too much for the steering rack to handle...

Also, Honda is well known for their shit quality... How do I know?

I have a 2017 HRV. These are what I've claimed and what I have to fork out from my pocket.

1. Tensioner (Warranty - ~ 20k km)
2. Side Mirror (Warranty)
3. Steering Rack (Warranty)
4. Absorber (Pocket) - I went for Tein because Ori honda shit
5. Lower Arm (Pocket)
6. Bar Bush (Pocket)
7. Rear Axle bush (Pocket - Soon)
8. Rear Absorber mounting (Pocket - Soon)
9. Tensioner + Idle bearing + Belt (Pocket - Soon)
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1 & 2 - Caught by SC inspections

1 & 3 - Very well-known Honda problem on all their cars. If you are lucky, it will last. If not --pocket--

2 - The side mirror was changed under warranty but recently realized the motor started to slow down.

4,5,6,7,8 - Yes, wear and tear... But the fact is my car is only 5 years old, and only driven ~65K before need to change these

3 - Here's the thing: 2 times asked them to check - no issues, only on the 3rd time, Oh steering rack gone after I sent them a knocking sound video when turning left and right. Then only they proceed to do the claim (4 months before warranty end) - LOL
Another very well-known Honda issue is
1. CVT belt, even with normal driving, there is a high chance for it to break before 100k or after 100k. (~RM 4k to replace)
2. Drive Shaft

Another ongoing issue is
1. Clunking sound I've changed so much. Yet there's still sound here and there.
2. Knocking sound from CVT/Drive shafts - Noticed this 2 years after gotten the car but SC say no issue.
If can go for Toyota only... My Innova 2012, 120k. Still with original parts, not even once need to claim warranty or replace. Only recently, there have been signs of wear and tear on bushings. But still feels as good as new and has no annoying sounds.
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Can consider get GAC Empow. Macam very good car.
Heard TanChong going to CKD the car soon.

4cylinder 1.5 or 2.0 turbo with 7DCT.
Handling is superb
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Can consider get GAC Empow. Macam very good car.
Heard TanChong going to CKD the car soon.

4cylinder 1.5 or 2.0 turbo with 7DCT.
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when is soon?
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 28 2023, 03:13 PM)
Yup, today I went and replaced my lower arm a second time, and so far, no sound.. The previous one, the bushing was not that good even tho used for about 1 year (OEM).
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 30 2023, 12:15 AM)
I do give time between changing gears, like make sure car is completely stopped, before engaging reverse, but I see a lot of people (& my spouse) change from D to R immediately, even before the car has come to a complete stop, so that's that la.
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I see this very often, especially when they're parking their car. I'll go "ouch" for their gearbox.
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QUOTE(diamlah @ Sep 30 2023, 09:19 AM)
If only toyota give altis 2.0 engine
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We can only dream about this 2.0L engine.

Cause?
Is going to be expensive.
Roadtax expensive
Currency take a shet
And Malaysian doesn't care about new tech.

Altis and corolla cross same platform for chassis but not engine

Look at the new Vios. Having same engine n gearbox as myvi but different shell only. Still selling well laugh.gif
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We can only dream about this 2.0L engine.

Cause?
Is going to be expensive.
Roadtax expensive
Currency take a shet
And Malaysian doesn't care about new tech.

Altis and corolla cross same platform for chassis but not engine

Look at the new Vios. Having same engine n gearbox as myvi but different shell only. Still selling well laugh.gif
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It should be offered as an option since if not mistaken US/Canada's Corolla Cross is using 2.0L.
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Oct 1 2023, 04:57 PM)
It should be offered as an option since if not mistaken US/Canada's Corolla Cross is using 2.0L.
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Western market corrolla cross have a totally different hybrid setup as well.

Their hybrid is the latest toyota hybrid whereby the electric motor is mounted at the rear and have a bigger battery.

ours is still the last gen hybrid.


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Still got sound after change lower arm?
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So far sound has been little to none and feel more rigidt there are some lose sound but dk is lower arm or drive shaft, haven't really test it. Will update in a day or so. Need to go through my usual bumps.

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I see this very often, especially when they're parking their car. I'll go "ouch" for their gearbox.
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My dad likes to do this... Even SC/WS people also like to do this. Until now my GB has some free play when shifting into R once in awhile
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Sep 26 2023, 12:11 PM)
Steering rack issues i know are:
1) got noise when turning
2) the steering become sticky to turn (this one is more dangerous to safety)

Dunno why Honda still havent change their supplier

Or is it design issue? hmm.gif

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" i love the handling "

this fella obviously trolling or what? try drive it at 120km/h, reminds me of the old camry handling
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So far sound has been little to none and feel more rigidt there are some lose sound but dk is lower arm or drive shaft, haven't really test it. Will update in a day or so. Need to go through my usual bumps.
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After a week, how now? Sounds from lower arm?
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https://www.raw2k.co.uk/news/what-is-a-lemon-car

I think your car is considered Lemon Car
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Here no lemon law. 2nd, HM, if u rage again them online like many had done it, they will slap with LOD by their lawyer. They started to drop quality in many parts believe by make it localized vendor for the parts. One thing for sure is the juddering brake at high speed. Cost rm700/pair for the junk made in Thai brakepad by H. Change outside aftermarket brand, no more juddering issues
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2023, 08:29 AM)
Here no lemon law. 2nd, HM, if u rage again them online like many had done it, they will slap with LOD by their lawyer. They started to drop quality in many parts believe by make it localized vendor for the parts. One thing for sure is the juddering brake at high speed. Cost rm700/pair for the junk made in Thai brakepad by H. Change outside aftermarket brand, no more juddering issues
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why change brake pads in SC when you can go aftermarket at cheaper price at the same time use better products?
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Sep 26 2023, 01:11 PM)
Steering rack issues i know are:
1) got noise when turning
2) the steering become sticky to turn (this one is more dangerous to safety)

Dunno why Honda still havent change their supplier

Or is it design issue? hmm.gif

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lol TS. you hide the name from FB but the receipt is still visible.

This is the same HR guy that always kuda in LinkedIn.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 10 2023, 09:24 AM)
why change brake pads in SC when you can go aftermarket at cheaper price at the same time use better products?
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I never changed pad at Honda SC. Cz of price and junk quality. Change aftermarket with better materials at rm200/pair instead. Ask warranty for rotor but SC only give free skim. Already on 4th cycles with aftermarket pad, ok already
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2023, 08:29 AM)
Here no lemon law. 2nd, HM, if u rage again them online like many had done it, they will slap with LOD by their lawyer. They started to drop quality in many parts believe by make it localized vendor for the parts. One thing for sure is the juddering brake at high speed. Cost rm700/pair for the junk made in Thai brakepad by H. Change outside aftermarket brand, no more juddering issues
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Thai QC issue?

QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 10 2023, 09:24 AM)
why change brake pads in SC when you can go aftermarket at cheaper price at the same time use better products?
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inb4 warranty...

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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Oct 10 2023, 09:35 AM)
Thai QC issue?
inb4 warranty...
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Just a junk materials manufactured there. Better take aftermarket brand than Made in Thai pad. Warranty no concern cz pad is under wear & tear parts. Like tyre
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2023, 09:38 AM)
Just a junk materials manufactured there. Better take aftermarket brand than Made in Thai pad. Warranty no concern cz pad is under wear & tear parts. Like tyre
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Just brake pad issue or other stuff like rubber bushings as well.
Had proton "mitsubishi" stuff from there (mountings) that last less than 2 years vs ori proton
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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Oct 10 2023, 09:41 AM)
Just brake pad issue or other stuff like rubber bushings as well.
Had proton "mitsubishi" stuff from there (mountings) that last less than 2 years vs ori proton
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In my car, pad is main issue last time on 2nd year onward. Driveshaft changed 3 or 4 times under warranty cz oil leak. On HRV previous gen, the bushings and those parts to the tyre, are well known. My suggestion, take all aftermarket better, cheaper
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2023, 09:45 AM)
In my car, pad is main issue last time on 2nd year onward. Driveshaft changed 3 or 4 times under warranty cz oil leak. On HRV previous gen, the bushings and those parts to the tyre, are well known. My suggestion, take all aftermarket better, cheaper
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Thai QC issue?
inb4 warranty...
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brake pads doesn't effect warranty... unless it makan the disc then you want to claim disc warranty....
by the time pads need to change it would be near end of warranty period anyway. I drive manuals and dont brake all the time unlike Auto, so maybe my case is difference.

for me, brakes and tires always use good product.
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somehow those who kena the steering rack issue will continue to face the issue later on while those who don't, never face the problem early onset. mine so far is ok while i've a friend whose civic fc already done more than 130k without any steering rack issue.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 10 2023, 09:49 AM)
brake pads doesn't effect warranty... unless it makan the disc then you want to claim disc warranty....
by the time pads need to change it would be near end of warranty period anyway. I drive manuals and dont brake all the time unlike Auto, so maybe my case is difference.

for me, brakes and tires always use good product.
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Proton better in the warranty in my case. Complaint juddering for heavy brake, they give me a new Rotor under warranty when the car is almost 3 years old and at 39k km. Honda definitely wont give except give skimmed as usual
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2023, 09:56 AM)
Proton better in the warranty in my case. Complaint juddering for heavy brake, they give me a new Rotor under warranty when the car is almost 3 years old and at 39k km. Honda definitely wont give except give skimmed as usual
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so good 2years + and they let you claim warped discs....

generally they claim you warp it yourself....
so much ways you can warp it, too much braking, go down genting and too hot, holding the pads heat soaking it thru, sepang racing, ... go over puddle, flood when discs are hot, etc...

can get free skim, happy liao.... after 6-7 year, change disc rotors
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 27 2023, 02:52 PM)
Just change the part out of pocket, then suddenly the issue will be solved. Compared to claim using warranty.

Don't know how, but it is like that.
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Anyone tried this? Or use aftermarket solutions? I saw on civic FC facebook group, people are providing steering rack repair service.
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After a week, how now? Sounds from lower arm?
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Hi, Hi, sorry, no time update, haha.

So far, it is better; there is no sound*, and it feels solid.
*There is still a loose sound/clunking sound occasionally on uneven roads. I will bring it back and ask them to tighten it to see if it helps. But in the meantime, I will continue to monitor.

TLDR: Not sure if I've mentioned previously. So what happened is, during the removal of the previous OEM lower arm, which was done in another WS - April 2023, the foremen told me that the driver side one of the bolts was loose and, by hand, didn't need the impact gun, he removed the bolt LOL. So, I believe this was one of the causes of the loose sound/feeling. Another issue was when, during an emergency break, the wheel would shake before coming to a stop. This means that the rubber was indeed soft.

In summary, get a good, knowledgeable WS who won't cheap out on parts (Recommend - Arief Auto Solutions "Setapak") - I can't imagine if the bolt came loose and dropped out while driving...

But I think no matter what, you will still get some sounds here and there unless you go back to the original, which is more expensive (~ RM 300 OEM vs ~ RM 700 Ori) or change to aftermarket parts like solid bushings.

Also, if the sound is very annoying or loud or you always need to drive outstation, do check; if not, leave it. Because after so many checking/changes, I found out the total cost for me is 50% enough to put in a deposit for a new car, LOL. Now for me, after I change the tensioner and CVT filter, I will be looking to sell the car in the next 2/3 years' time and never return to Honda till they fix their QC.

Note: It may sound expensive, but it is also because I itchy hand go for Tein absorbers, which are pricey.


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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 10 2023, 10:04 AM)
so good 2years + and they let you claim warped discs....

generally they claim you warp it yourself....
so much ways you can warp it, too much braking, go down genting and too hot, holding the pads heat soaking it thru, sepang racing, ... go over puddle, flood when discs are hot, etc...

can get free skim, happy liao.... after 6-7 year, change disc rotors
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If not mistaken, Toyota also gives you skim as well. Last time, my Innova also had the same issue for no reason. But after that, until now no issue.

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Oct 10 2023, 09:53 AM)
somehow those who kena the steering rack issue will continue to face the issue later on while those who don't, never face the problem early onset. mine so far is ok while i've a friend whose civic fc already done more than 130k without any steering rack issue.
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Or maybe he didn't realise it. There are 2 types of people. Those who are very well aware of once tiny little squeak and those who only know how to get in and drive, SC no say anything means all good. I'm one of those who is very aware, compared to others... Got sound?? Can move can already.
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Oct 10 2023, 04:08 PM)
Or maybe he didn't realise it. There are 2 types of people. Those who are very well aware of once tiny little squeak and those who only know how to get in and drive, SC no say anything means all good. I'm one of those who is very aware, compared to others... Got sound?? Can move can already.
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steering rack problem how not to notice woh and tolerate. it's definitely not normal and tolerable by any standard. it's not just sound but the function. any driver would notice the abnormality and it'll only get worse
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Oct 10 2023, 04:32 PM)
steering rack problem how not to notice woh and tolerate. it's definitely not normal and tolerable by any standard. it's not just sound but the function. any driver would notice the abnormality and it'll only get worse
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It depending on SC based on experience. Was shock when Semenyih SC told leaked oil from Driveshaft is normal by them. Went to other SC, straight claim under warranty for Honda

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Oct 10 2023, 04:32 PM)
steering rack problem how not to notice woh and tolerate. it's definitely not normal and tolerable by any standard. it's not just sound but the function. any driver would notice the abnormality and it'll only get worse
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Mine was not like others, being sticky (I think). Mine was a slight knocking sound when turning left and right. If I don't have sharp ears, I don't think I would realise it also. It only came to my attention when I saw a video of someone having the knocking sound posted a video on FB.

I believe I already have had the knocking sound for quite some time already. Just didn't realize it. Even SC on the last 2 visits didn't mention anything during the test drive.

QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2023, 05:26 PM)
It depending on SC based on experience. Was shock when Semenyih SC told leaked oil from Driveshaft is normal by them. Went to other SC, straight claim under warranty
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SC in Kepong told me everything was normal till I complained again and another technician says steering rack issue.

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Hi, Hi, sorry, no time update, haha.

So far, it is better; there is no sound*, and it feels solid.
*There is still a loose sound/clunking sound occasionally on uneven roads. I will bring it back and ask them to tighten it to see if it helps. But in the meantime, I will continue to monitor.

TLDR: Not sure if I've mentioned previously. So what happened is, during the removal of the previous OEM lower arm, which was done in another WS - April 2023, the foremen told me that the driver side one of the bolts was loose and, by hand, didn't need the impact gun, he removed the bolt LOL. So, I believe this was one of the causes of the loose sound/feeling. Another issue was when, during an emergency break, the wheel would shake before coming to a stop. This means that the rubber was indeed soft.

In summary, get a good, knowledgeable WS who won't cheap out on parts (Recommend - Arief Auto Solutions "Setapak") - I can't imagine if the bolt came loose and dropped out while driving...

But I think no matter what, you will still get some sounds here and there unless you go back to the original, which is more expensive (~ RM 300 OEM vs ~ RM 700 Ori) or change to aftermarket parts like solid bushings.

Also, if the sound is very annoying or loud or you always need to drive outstation, do check; if not, leave it. Because after so many checking/changes, I found out the total cost for me is 50% enough to put in a deposit for a new car, LOL. Now for me, after I change the tensioner and CVT filter, I will be looking to sell the car in the next 2/3 years' time and never return to Honda till they fix their QC.

Note: It may sound expensive, but it is also because I itchy hand go for Tein absorbers, which are pricey.
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Don’t have to sell la. Not big issue also. Just some weird sounds here n there.
Just go to SC and ask them to check what is the root cause and fix it at workshop outside.

So I bet the original sound in your video is from your lower arm. Go over bump don’t have that sound anymore right?
The loose/clunking sounds on uneven road could be your steering rack. You can feel is your steering rack is loose by putting your leg on the steel above the brake
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Don’t have to sell la. Not big issue also. Just some weird sounds here n there.
Just go to SC and ask them to check what is the root cause and fix it at workshop outside.

So I bet the original sound in your video is from your lower arm. Go over bump don’t have that sound anymore right?
The loose/clunking sounds on uneven road could be your steering rack. You can feel is your steering rack is loose by putting your leg on the steel above the brake
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Hopefully, no need to sell, haha, but will see how. Just hope the CVT will last. Yes, the sound is from the lower arm. Now go over the bump no more sound. But occasionally, there is.. Not sure if is drive shaft or other things. But will get it tightened again. Steering just changed I think last year. So far checked by mechanic still feel ok.
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Hopefully, no need to sell, haha, but will see how. Just hope the CVT will last. Yes, the sound is from the lower arm. Now go over the bump no more sound. But occasionally, there is.. Not sure if is drive shaft or other things. But will get it tightened again. Steering just changed I think last year. So far checked by mechanic still feel ok.
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If mine also lower arm then speechless.
I’ve changed absorbers and mounting, absorber link, tie rod and rack end also huhu
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Hopefully, no need to sell, haha, but will see how. Just hope the CVT will last. Yes, the sound is from the lower arm. Now go over the bump no more sound. But occasionally, there is.. Not sure if is drive shaft or other things. But will get it tightened again. Steering just changed I think last year. So far checked by mechanic still feel ok.
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My mechanic says my lower arm ok wo. Try with crowbar also no problem.
Yours still no sound after change lower arm after a month?
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My mechanic says my lower arm ok wo. Try with crowbar also no problem.
Yours still no sound after change lower arm after a month?
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So far never heard the same sound anymore, just occasionally some hitting sound don't know from where. Maybe you can try recording the sound.
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So far never heard the same sound anymore, just occasionally some hitting sound don't know from where. Maybe you can try recording the sound.
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Not sure how u do that recording. I don’t have gopro.
Anyway, u have photo of your spoilt lower arm? Was it the bushing?
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Not sure how u do that recording. I don’t have gopro.
Anyway, u have photo of your spoilt lower arm? Was it the bushing?
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Sorry, I mean by using your phone to record the sound in the cabin.

I do no have a picture of my old lower arm, but one thing for sure was the bushing looks a little worn with slight tearing in it.
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i aslo feel boring aldy

aldy changed 2 times in honda service senter...

now warranty ended, and it happene again. the steerling feel sticky
macam tak accurate when pusing it, and it reaction slow to turn back to center..


do u thick outisde car auto shop can fix it?

rm130+ car get such quality in only 6 years..boring
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I heard it's a supplier problem, but I also heard it's a design problem... Why is it a design problem because the car is too much for the steering rack to handle...

Also, Honda is well known for their shit quality... How do I know?

I have a 2017 HRV. These are what I've claimed and what I have to fork out from my pocket.

1. Tensioner (Warranty - ~ 20k km)
2. Side Mirror (Warranty)
3. Steering Rack (Warranty)
4. Absorber (Pocket) - I went for Tein because Ori honda shit
5. Lower Arm (Pocket)
6. Bar Bush (Pocket)
7. Rear Axle bush (Pocket - Soon)
8. Rear Absorber mounting (Pocket - Soon)
9. Tensioner + Idle bearing + Belt (Pocket - Soon)
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1 & 2 - Caught by SC inspections

1 & 3 - Very well-known Honda problem on all their cars. If you are lucky, it will last. If not --pocket--

2 - The side mirror was changed under warranty but recently realized the motor started to slow down.

4,5,6,7,8 - Yes, wear and tear... But the fact is my car is only 5 years old, and only driven ~65K before need to change these

3 - Here's the thing: 2 times asked them to check - no issues, only on the 3rd time, Oh steering rack gone after I sent them a knocking sound video when turning left and right. Then only they proceed to do the claim (4 months before warranty end) - LOL
Another very well-known Honda issue is
1. CVT belt, even with normal driving, there is a high chance for it to break before 100k or after 100k. (~RM 4k to replace)
2. Drive Shaft

Another ongoing issue is
1. Clunking sound I've changed so much. Yet there's still sound here and there.
2. Knocking sound from CVT/Drive shafts - Noticed this 2 years after gotten the car but SC say no issue.
If can go for Toyota only... My Innova 2012, 120k. Still with original parts, not even once need to claim warranty or replace. Only recently, there have been signs of wear and tear on bushings. But still feels as good as new and has no annoying sounds.
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Thx for sharing .. Didnt know Honda that lousy ..
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ok what! free food at SC :grin:
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Long long torturing wait at SC .. Free food oso not worth it
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most SC put vending machine ok, so need to pay if want the drink/ coffee. this is not Conti SC
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as a person that involved in warranty for honda (headlamp for civic fe, rear combination lamp for honda city and rear combination for honda hrv) i would say honda didnt give a fuck when we reject their warranty claim.

every month we reject and didnt pay them a single cent and they seem to be cool about it. not making any noise at all.
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ May 30 2024, 10:43 AM)
as a person that involved in warranty for honda (headlamp for civic fe, rear combination lamp for honda city and rear combination for honda hrv) i would say honda didnt give a fuck when we reject their warranty claim.

every month we reject and didnt pay them a single cent and they seem to be cool about it. not making any noise at all.
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Bro, you work with Honda?

Got lobang discount?
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Or maybe he didn't realise it. There are 2 types of people. Those who are very well aware of once tiny little squeak and those who only know how to get in and drive, SC no say anything means all good. I'm one of those who is very aware, compared to others... Got sound?? Can move can already.
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Lol agree as me as hardcore car enthusiast,small noise sure claim as others dont realized or bother, even my new ride accrd also claim things every mth ,n my ketam claims items cost more than 2nd hand value eg 90k
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most SC put vending machine ok, so need to pay if want the drink/ coffee. this is not Conti SC
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Got lol those free coffee,milo machine frm nestle n some give nicer food but some give buns only
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 30 2024, 10:44 AM)
Bro, you work with Honda?

Got lobang discount?
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better follow honda model FB group. last few months easily throw in rm6k-10k rebates from few SA there.
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QUOTE(Tonysan @ May 30 2024, 10:25 AM)
i aslo feel boring aldy

aldy changed 2 times in honda service senter...

now warranty ended, and it happene again. the steerling feel sticky
macam tak accurate when pusing it, and it reaction slow to turn back to center..
do u thick outisde car auto shop can fix it?

rm130+ car get such quality in only 6 years..boring
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try google maps and search steering rack. there are plenty of workshop/ company that able to repair/service the steering rack, hopefully they do some parts improvement at workshop to prolong the rack life.
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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 30 2024, 10:49 AM)
Got lol those free coffee,milo machine frm nestle n some give nicer food but some give buns only
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mine usually at Sg Long Kajang 4S. Only vending machine last time. Pro, this SC if warranty claim, they will backup customer more
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 30 2024, 10:44 AM)
Bro, you work with Honda?

Got lobang discount?
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not directly with honda but im working with their headlamp/ tail light supplier--> Koito Malaysia Sdn Bhd.
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not directly with honda but im working with their headlamp/ tail light supplier--> Koito Malaysia Sdn Bhd.
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So far my claims non related to electrical items,all works well
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So far my claims non related to electrical items,all works well
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yeah, it depends on luck.

for head lamp we have 200% inspection (visual and function) before we shipped the parts to honda.


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2024... Honda car still have steering rack problem? My Honda stream 2005 (RN5) also have frequent steering rack leakage problem. The only solution is to replace the whole thing. After the third time leakage I let go the car...

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yeah, it depends on luck.

for head lamp we have 200% inspection (visual and function) before we shipped the parts to honda.
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why warranty claims goes to supplier? not Honda themselves do?

i tak faham, can explain the process? hmm.gif
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2024... Honda car still have steering rack problem? My Honda stream 2005 (RN5) also have frequent steering rack leakage problem. The only solution is to replace the whole thing. After the third time leakage I let go the car...
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Older cars risk will be oil leaks,after tht FB{maybe) all should be electric racks
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 30 2024, 11:16 AM)
why warranty claims goes to supplier? not Honda themselves do?

i tak faham, can explain the process?  hmm.gif
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let say u bought honda civic fe rs.

u use for 6 months then ur right headlamp malfunction, blinking, signal didnt work.
so this headlamp consider defective part. u drive in any certified honda service center, u told the SA there ur headlamp rosak.

they will verify it first. and if they confirmed ur headlamp rosak they will replace 1 to 1. u will get new headlamp. this headlamp will be charged back to the supplier.

the defective headlamp now we called it as original faulty parts (OFP). this OFP will be send to honda HQ at pegoh melaka.

we as supplier to the headlamp will get notification from Honda HQ about that OFP. so we will collect as per schedule (monthly basis) and then we will perform internal investigation to identify the problem and probably to find the root cause of that issue.

then we will submit our report including our finding to honda HQ. in our case, we rejected all honda warranty claim. so we didnt pay any amount to honda so far.

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most SC put vending machine ok, so need to pay if want the drink/ coffee. this is not Conti SC
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Wah lar...need to pay for drink/coffee...semua pun mahu untung....

Last time I sent my car to SC for the first 4 years only...final year, I pergi luar....buying my own spare parts and find my own workshop to fix it....

It way much cost effective doing it yrself....also I am buying good original spare parts....
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QUOTE(LDP @ May 30 2024, 11:50 AM)
Wah lar...need to pay for drink/coffee...semua pun mahu untung....

Last time I sent my car to SC for the first 4 years only...final year, I pergi luar....buying my own spare parts and find my own workshop to fix it....

It way much cost effective doing it yrself....also I am buying good original spare parts....
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I've bought parts from Vanli Pudu kl, and send to my regular workshop near home. Send car 9 am for Saturday, 30 minutes done in front of my eyes. Be it at SC, 830 am appointment, normal service only done at 1230
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ May 30 2024, 11:23 AM)
let say u bought honda civic fe rs.

u use for 6 months then ur right headlamp malfunction, blinking, signal didnt work.
so this headlamp consider defective part. u drive in any certified honda service center, u told the SA there ur headlamp rosak.

they will verify it first. and if they confirmed ur headlamp rosak they will replace 1 to 1. u will get new headlamp. this headlamp will be charged back to the supplier.

the defective headlamp now we called it as original faulty parts (OFP). this OFP will be send to honda HQ at pegoh melaka.

we as supplier to the headlamp will get notification from Honda HQ about that OFP. so we will collect as per schedule (monthly basis) and then we will perform internal investigation to identify the problem and probably to find the root cause of that issue.

then we will submit our report including our finding to honda HQ. in our case, we rejected all honda warranty claim. so we didnt pay any amount to honda so far.
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If that the procedure why some SC are known to taici or straight tell customer this thing cant claim under warranty. Been there in few cases until I need to call the hotline, then automatically the SC manager inform they will submit claim to HQ. Honda HQ can charged it to vendor rights?

In the end claim my side mirror foc under warranty cz wobbling at high speed.
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QUOTE(Tonysan @ May 30 2024, 10:25 AM)
i aslo feel boring aldy

aldy changed 2 times in honda service senter...

now warranty ended, and it happene again. the steerling feel sticky
macam tak accurate when pusing it, and it reaction slow to turn back to center..
do u thick outisde car auto shop can fix it?

rm130+ car get such quality in only 6 years..boring
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pls share later on the costs

QUOTE(Akmall540 @ May 30 2024, 10:59 AM)
not directly with honda but im working with their headlamp/ tail light supplier--> Koito Malaysia Sdn Bhd.
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why koito make low qc parts?
based on HM's specs?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 30 2024, 01:31 PM)
If that the procedure why some SC are known to taici or straight tell customer this thing cant claim under warranty. Been there in few cases until I need to call the hotline, then automatically the SC manager inform they will submit claim to HQ. Honda HQ can charged it to vendor rights?

In the end claim my side mirror foc under warranty cz wobbling at high speed.
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i dont know. if you are aware of your rights then you should educate that SA.
for example, eletrical parts, warranty period is three years or 100,000km whichever comes first. as long as within this period than you are entitled to get warranty and in headlamp or tail light case direct replace 1 to 1.

QUOTE(DupeIkan @ May 30 2024, 01:32 PM)
pls share later on the costs
why koito make low qc parts?
based on HM's specs?
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which part is low qc? define what is low qc?

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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ May 30 2024, 11:23 AM)
let say u bought honda civic fe rs.

u use for 6 months then ur right headlamp malfunction, blinking, signal didnt work.
so this headlamp consider defective part. u drive in any certified honda service center, u told the SA there ur headlamp rosak.

they will verify it first. and if they confirmed ur headlamp rosak they will replace 1 to 1. u will get new headlamp. this headlamp will be charged back to the supplier.

the defective headlamp now we called it as original faulty parts (OFP). this OFP will be send to honda HQ at pegoh melaka.

we as supplier to the headlamp will get notification from Honda HQ about that OFP. so we will collect as per schedule (monthly basis) and then we will perform internal investigation to identify the problem and probably to find the root cause of that issue.

then we will submit our report including our finding to honda HQ. in our case, we rejected all honda warranty claim. so we didnt pay any amount to honda so far.
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what was the defective part, why honda claim from you as a supplier if the headlamp malfunction?
what was your finding to reject honda claim?

bulbs and turn signal bulbs are all controlled by the relays or the switchgears usually nothing to do with the headlamp itself.


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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ May 30 2024, 11:23 AM)
let say u bought honda civic fe rs.

u use for 6 months then ur right headlamp malfunction, blinking, signal didnt work.
so this headlamp consider defective part. u drive in any certified honda service center, u told the SA there ur headlamp rosak.

they will verify it first. and if they confirmed ur headlamp rosak they will replace 1 to 1. u will get new headlamp. this headlamp will be charged back to the supplier.

the defective headlamp now we called it as original faulty parts (OFP). this OFP will be send to honda HQ at pegoh melaka.

we as supplier to the headlamp will get notification from Honda HQ about that OFP. so we will collect as per schedule (monthly basis) and then we will perform internal investigation to identify the problem and probably to find the root cause of that issue.

then we will submit our report including our finding to honda HQ. in our case, we rejected all honda warranty claim. so we didnt pay any amount to honda so far.
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All Honda warranty claim is rejected because ?

All the claimed parts OFP is actually in good working condition ?
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what was the defective part, why honda claim from you as a supplier if the headlamp malfunction?
what was your finding to reject honda claim?

bulbs and turn signal bulbs are all controlled by the relays or the switchgears usually nothing to do with the headlamp itself.
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I don't know about relays or switch relays but Honda Civic FE RS use led with lighting drive module (LDM) to control the lighting. We don't produce this LDM, we bought from suppliers. We assemble it with other parts and finally it became one complete headlamp.
Safe to say that this LDM is the motherboard of the all the LED. We didn't use bulbs anymore. If this LDM got defect for sure the lighting functions will affected.

QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ May 30 2024, 02:00 PM)
All Honda warranty claim is rejected because ?

All the claimed parts OFP is actually in good working condition ?
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Yes. We tested the OFP is actually OK. Not defect as per claimed. But some of it already tempered with third party involvement such as tinted or external forces that caused the headlamp or tail light malfunction or became poor appearance.

Rejected here meaning that we reject the amount that Honda HQ requested us to pay them. Not like we reject customer (end user) request to change the headlamp.
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I don't know about relays or switch relays but Honda Civic FE RS use led with lighting drive module (LDM) to control the lighting. We don't produce this LDM, we bought from suppliers. We assemble it with other parts and finally it became one complete headlamp.
Safe to say that this LDM is the motherboard of the all the LED. We didn't use bulbs anymore. If this LDM got defect for sure the lighting functions will affected.
Yes. We tested the OFP is actually OK. Not defect as per claimed. But some of it already tempered with third party involvement such as tinted or external forces that caused the headlamp or tail light malfunction or became poor appearance.

Rejected here meaning that we reject the amount that Honda HQ requested us to pay them. Not like we reject customer (end user) request to change the headlamp.
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Usually, warranty claim for customer end falls under Honda SC and the Service PIA. If the person today good mood they sure will allow you to claim. But I believe they also have a set Quota per month. If they overclaim they will sus them or call in for questioning hence the dumb answer they give.

I've met a Service PIA who tried to argue for me for a tensioner claim. Which ended up failing after the manager say cannot due to after 3 years warranty. Prob he also knows that Honda tensioner is rubbish.


E.g.: Bumper crack after Service at SC, want to escalate for a claim. SC advisor say cannot because I bang something. LOL

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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ May 30 2024, 10:43 AM)
as a person that involved in warranty for honda (headlamp for civic fe, rear combination lamp for honda city and rear combination for honda hrv) i would say honda didnt give a fuck when we reject their warranty claim.

every month we reject and didnt pay them a single cent and they seem to be cool about it. not making any noise at all.
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Confirm the PIA at Honda not doing their job or they would just prefer to whatever.
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2024... Honda car still have steering rack problem? My Honda stream 2005 (RN5) also have frequent steering rack leakage problem. The only solution is to replace the whole thing. After the third time leakage I let go the car...
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Changed recon or ori or "Japan Spec"?
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Oct 10 2023, 12:41 PM)
Anyone tried this? Or use aftermarket solutions? I saw on civic FC facebook group, people are providing steering rack repair service.
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Get those reputable one to repair, not those bawah pokok if got money go for brand new, less issue
Virlution
post May 30 2024, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ May 30 2024, 02:16 PM)
I don't know about relays or switch relays but Honda Civic FE RS use led with lighting drive module (LDM) to control the lighting. We don't produce this LDM, we bought from suppliers. We assemble it with other parts and finally it became one complete headlamp.
Safe to say that this LDM is the motherboard of the all the LED. We didn't use bulbs anymore. If this LDM got defect for sure the lighting functions will affected.


Yes. We tested the OFP is actually OK. Not defect as per claimed. But some of it already tempered with third party involvement such as tinted or external forces that caused the headlamp or tail light malfunction or became poor appearance.

Rejected here meaning that we reject the amount that Honda HQ requested us to pay them. Not like we reject customer (end user) request to change the headlamp.
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thanks for the clarification.... thumbsup.gif
DoomHammer
post May 30 2024, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(JON97 @ May 30 2024, 02:54 PM)
Changed recon or ori or "Japan Spec"?
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Used kedai potong standard spec la... lama2 getting harder to find I have to let go this car... sad because I love this car ( was my dream car way back in 2003)

 

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