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post Nov 12 2023, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 12 2023, 07:32 PM)
Chill no need to track so detail. Later it will add to your anxiety.

For now I see only Tesla with proven 7years ++ and 300-400k miles done by american and their battery health still above 84-86% 😳😳

And this is based on old battery tech not LFP…
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LFP said to have 3000 to 6000 charge cycle

Even 3000 X say 400km range will get 1.2mil km mileage will last you 60 years

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post Nov 14 2023, 02:22 PM

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Looks like the ship has left the Singapore dock and now is heading straight to EU.
Guess we can count this ship out from delivering them to the Klang Port.
I also don't think they will bring in the cars from Singapore.

So, the last bet is the ship heading to Thailand.
Will update once there is an update on the ship's itinerary



QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Nov 10 2023, 08:41 AM)
Currently tracking 2 ship canidates with Tesla Model 3 (Highland) en-route to Singapore / Thailand. Wonder which will be the ship that has all the cars for Malaysia and dock at Port Klang. Timeline looks tight.
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post Nov 14 2023, 10:06 PM

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Those who already test drove this week, how's the experience?

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 14 2023, 10:06 PM)
Those who already test drove this week, how's the experience?
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I test drove today and booked the SR.

Went pretty well, the SA show how to turn on the car and explain how to set side mirrors, steering and explain how single pedal drive works. Drove around pavilion damansara for around 30 mins (swapped to my wife to test halfway).

Overall experience pretty good but if you’re just planning to test and not buying then might feel different (pushy) after testing as they directly ask which color and setup you want instead of letting you to go back and consider. I do planned to book after testing so it’s alright for me.
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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ Nov 14 2023, 10:24 PM)
I test drove today and booked the SR.

Went pretty well, the SA show how to turn on the car and explain how to set side mirrors, steering and explain how single pedal drive works. Drove around pavilion damansara for around 30 mins (swapped to my wife to test halfway).

Overall experience pretty good but if you’re just planning to test and not buying then might feel different (pushy) after testing as they directly ask which color and setup you want instead of letting you to go back and consider. I do planned to book after testing so it’s alright for me.
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how's the ride quality? also do you feel the car ground clearence is too low that sometimes u might scrap the bottom?

honestly I dont think there should be any reason for the salesperson to be pushy. Don't think they earn any commission from units sold? just doesn't seem to be Tesla's way of business
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post Nov 15 2023, 07:49 AM

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A quick review from other people who test drive the Model 3 rclxms.gif

QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Nov 14 2023, 12:38 PM)
Yesterday got the opportunity to test drive the new model 3 highland. First time driving an EV car, not counting golf buggy  laugh.gif

Some pros and cons :-

Pros :
- SUPER SUPER FAST (4.4s yo!)
  As soon as I hit the pedal to the metal, the car simply goes!!!! Really a different ballgame together coming from an owner of an ICE vehicle with 5s (0-100kmh) performance.

- SUPER QUIET (coming from a conti user, this one tops up the level of quietness)
  Thanks to it's double paned window, you can really feel the level of quietness. Not to mentioned that there's no engine to begin with.

- Comfortable
  I like the ride and comfort. It's not too sporty and it's not too 'wollowee'. It sits just nice and balance.
  Aircond is very cold but I like the seat blowers more. You can set it to either hot or cold.
  The sound system is really on par with those exclusive ones. Great bass as well as treble. Overall, no need to mod anything in terms of speakers etc.

- Tech
  Of course everything about this car is on tech. Self driving mode is very useful during long drives as well as in traffic. Just enjoy your drive (or driveless) but remember to gently hold the steering to keep the self driving mode active.

Cons :
- Regen braking
  Takes some time to get used to but I guess if you are adaptable, it'll be quite fast.
  I don't like it when there's no level to select the regen braking.

- Everything is on 1 screen
  I was fidgeting the screen while waiting for my turn for the test drive. After 5-10 mins of browsing through, the whole screen froze!  laugh.gif I guess you need to understand that every app/software would freeze from time to time. The SA says can reset the screen by pressing both buttons on the steering wheel.

- Aircond
  Now I said aircond is cold but the blower doesn't seem to blow to my face. Was trying to adjust here and there but still doesn't hit the sweet spot like a normal ICE car.

- Cost
  Ok ok, RM200k is not too bad of a value. In fact, it's a great value car. However, I'm still hesitating on the cost of depreciation, charging, maintenance. Charging at home is convenient and it shouldn't be a problem. However, I guess you'll need to ensure that your house wiring is in top notch condition. A 3 phase would be ideal. Maintenance is nothing much but I read that the tyres wears out fast as it's a heavy car and you'll get additive to the speed and torque. Hence, you may need to change the tyres every 1-2 years or even lesser than that if you are a speed demon?

- Speed
  Ya ya ya... the speed is great. Just a tap and the car goes! But it also hurts your neck! haha.. So, you'll need to be extra gentle on the pedal when driving or you may have whiplash effect.

Guess that's about all that I could think of for now. Let me know your thoughts or you are still a die hard ICE vehicles.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(I-Kurosaki @ Nov 14 2023, 02:24 PM)
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Test drove the Model 3 yesterday too. To be honest, the gear swipe and indicator buttons were hardly an issue - adapted quite quick within the 30mins slot.

But I was not accustomed to the regen braking, i.e. one pedal mode even in chill mode. Regen braking is very strong noticeably on low speed only. Regen braking during high speed felt gradual imo. This definitely need some time getting used to.

Overall the ride felt composed - slightly firm but yet comfortable.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 14 2023, 10:59 PM)
how's the ride quality? also do you feel the car ground clearence is too low that sometimes u might scrap the bottom?

honestly I dont think there should be any reason for the salesperson to be pushy. Don't think they earn any commission from units sold? just doesn't seem to be Tesla's way of business
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Pretty good for me but my benchmark might not fit everyone as I’m driving an old Vios. I don’t feel the ground clearance to be a problem, but there isn’t any very high bump on my test route. Not too sure on the commission side either, but the agent probably was from commission background and this is just how he approach sales.

I try to summarise as follow:
1. Pick up speed very good as expected from EV
2. Soundproof very well
3. Very quiet outside (when driving back to the destination there’s a pedestrian walking slowly in front didn’t know the car is behind him).
4. Suspension good, but my comparison is vs Vios so not sure how well compared to other high end car. The SA ask me to just drive through the bumps and potholes, don’t have to hold it back to test it. And it’s a lot better than my current one.
5. Regen braking might take 2-3 mins to get used to but once you gotten used to it then very instinctively driving that way. After test drive and I go back to my vios I need to adjust back coz I forgot need to move my feet to brake 😂
6. I test SR so the speaker at back seat not as great.

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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Nov 14 2023, 02:22 PM)
Looks like the ship has left the Singapore dock and now is heading straight to EU.
Guess we can count this ship out from delivering them to the Klang Port.
I also don't think they will bring in the cars from Singapore.

So, the last bet is the ship heading to Thailand.
Will update once there is an update on the ship's itinerary
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Did you try checking your VIN on the molace website?

I think they’re one of the carriers that stop at TH and SG, and their website allows search by VIN.
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post Nov 19 2023, 12:55 AM

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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-mo...ion-224595.html

Not so pleasing report from Germany
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post Nov 19 2023, 09:43 PM

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More Malaysian buyers are receiving their VIN numbers


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post Nov 20 2023, 12:01 PM

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News flash!
Shipment of Tesla Model 3 will arrive later this week! 🥳


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post Nov 21 2023, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 19 2023, 01:55 AM)
Not suprised. Tesla has no periodic maintenance interval.
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post Nov 22 2023, 01:52 PM

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I did a test drive for Model 3 LR at Cyberjaya on Monday (booked LR on 18", cause the 19" isn't exactly to my taste).

The test route has several speed bumps along the way, which is nice as I get to test the one pedal driving and I find it very easy to adapt to. Previously I tried the iX40, which the regen is quite wonky and not as smooth, due to single vs dual motor?.

And, almost every speed bump I had to slow down and get the opportunity to floor the pedal for that acceleration (priceless! fastest accelerating car I've experienced so far).

NVH, is good! The acoustic glass is great, and well compared to my current ride (Civic FC) this is a big upgrade. Suspection is pretty alright, when I cross the bumps and well, the Cyberjaya route has relatively better roads than average I guess).

Now for the issues, I didn't get used to the on steering signal... I was kinda putting signals left and right on each time I turn to feel it (SA was "impressed" cause I was doing signal so frequent LOL). I'm on with the lack of drive stick, but well the I'm on the fence. Perhaps in future stick the S3XY buttons behind the wheel to can have left and right like Ferrari tongue.gif.

Cabin space, ok lah... more or less similar to my current car. When front seat is adjusted to my preference, rear seat has about 1 fist distance to the seat, and 1 fist to the ceiling. I'm 176cm.

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post Nov 22 2023, 02:23 PM

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Just curious since today is kinda sunny day, did you get to try the ventilated seats?
I heard that on a hot day its fan is good enough to cool you down.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 22 2023, 01:52 PM)
I did a test drive for Model 3 LR at Cyberjaya on Monday (booked LR on 18", cause the 19" isn't exactly to my taste).

The test route has several speed bumps along the way, which is nice as I get to test the one pedal driving and I find it very easy to adapt to. Previously I tried the iX40, which the regen is quite wonky and not as smooth, due to single vs dual motor?.

And, almost every speed bump I had to slow down and get the opportunity to floor the pedal for that acceleration (priceless! fastest accelerating car I've experienced so far).

NVH, is good! The acoustic glass is great, and well compared to my current ride (Civic FC) this is a big upgrade. Suspection is pretty alright, when I cross the bumps and well, the Cyberjaya route has relatively better roads than average I guess).

Now for the issues, I didn't get used to the on steering signal... I was kinda putting signals left and right on each time I turn to feel it (SA was "impressed" cause I was doing signal so frequent LOL). I'm on with the lack of drive stick, but well the I'm on the fence. Perhaps in future stick the S3XY buttons behind the wheel to can have left and right like Ferrari tongue.gif.

Cabin space, ok lah... more or less similar to my current car. When front seat is adjusted to my preference, rear seat has about 1 fist distance to the seat, and 1 fist to the ceiling. I'm 176cm.
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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Nov 22 2023, 02:23 PM)
Just curious since today is kinda sunny day, did you get to try the ventilated seats?
I heard that on a hot day its fan is good enough to cool you down.
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I went on Monday, it was cloudy. I purposely selected 3:30pm slot cause wanted to feel the glass roof effect but it was cloudy... ventilated seats is comfy! Started to use it at half way cause initially I wanted to try the NVH.

The ventilated seat is rclxm9.gif . Very syiok! I'm not sure if the ventilated seats is AC or fan only... but it felt cold la.
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Test drove the Model 3 SR in Cyber yesterday.

Coming off petrol engines with nil prior driving experience or expectations with EV's, its a pleasant surprise.

Cars heavy but feels planted, the acceleration in the SR to me personally is more than enough for urban driving.
Still able to tapau most daily drive cars with ease.

The missing signal stalk - got used to it in a couple of minutes, and by the end of the drive, did not need to look down to get the signals or wipers turned on.
Auto pilot is scary, but as long as paying attention, the car did well, even with the roads being wet and faded lane and shoulder markers on the road.
Regen was - interesting, and I get how people say you can go on and on without touching the brakes ever!

The silence in the cabin is impressive. The double paned glass makes a world of difference.
Turning radius, body roll, steering feel, all are good, and theres a confidence in throwing the car into corners.

The SR audio is decent enough - if not blasting music excessively loud. But then again, I'm no audiophile.

Caveat - having your own charger is a must. Would not consider this if relying on public charging infrastructure.

According to the TA who rode along with me, waiting period for deliveries is expected to change as more markets get this updated model from Jan onwards.
And interestingly claimed that the complimentary wallbox still has units available despite the promo ending on 31 October.
Wonder if anyone else can verify this? Or an attempt at getting me to book the car there and then la sweat.gif

The only thing I am having trouble wrapping my head around is getting away from the mindset of being able to repair mechanical issues.

Pretty much sold on the car, but only looking to book towards the end of Q1, and take delivery in Q2 2024.
Curious to see if the BYD Seal launches before that and at what price point.

Overall for the price point of the SR, comparing to any other car within a 200k budget, to me its a no brainer.
Personally have no need for the additional motor, enhanced audio and an NMC battery pack which cannot be regularly charged to a 100% for a difference of 29k.


Don't see any other new ICE car being comparable in terms of value.

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post Nov 24 2023, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(joshgm_119 @ Nov 24 2023, 08:28 AM)
Test drove the Model 3 SR in Cyber yesterday.

Coming off petrol engines with nil prior driving experience or expectations with EV's, its a pleasant surprise.

Cars heavy but feels planted, the acceleration in the SR to me personally is more than enough for urban driving.
Still able to tapau most daily drive cars with ease.

The missing signal stalk - got used to it in a couple of minutes, and by the end of the drive, did not need to look down to get the signals or wipers turned on.
Auto pilot is scary, but as long as paying attention, the car did well, even with the roads being wet and faded lane and shoulder markers on the road.
Regen was - interesting, and I get how people say you can go on and on without touching the brakes ever!

The silence in the cabin is impressive. The double paned glass makes a world of difference.
Turning radius, body roll, steering feel, all are good, and theres a confidence in throwing the car into corners.

The SR audio is decent enough - if not blasting music excessively loud. But then again, I'm no audiophile.

Caveat - having your own charger is a must. Would not consider this if relying on public charging infrastructure.

According to the TA who rode along with me, waiting period for deliveries is expected to change as more markets get this updated model from Jan onwards.
And interestingly claimed that the complimentary wallbox still has units available despite the promo ending on 31 October.
Wonder if anyone else can verify this?

The only thing I am having trouble wrapping my head around is getting away from the mindset of being able to repair mechanical issues.

Pretty much sold on the car, but only looking to book towards the end of Q1, and take delivery in Q2 2024.
Curious to see if the BYD Seal launches before that and at what price point.

Overall for the price point of the SR, comparing to any other car within a 200k budget, to me its a no brainer.
Personally have no need for the additional motor, enhanced audio and an NMC battery pack which cannot be regularly charged to a 100% for a difference of 29k.
Don't see any other ICE car being comparable in terms of value.
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Now I'm feeling salty because I didn't get to try the Autopilot when I test drive at Cyberjaya sad.gif.

Prior to going to Cyberjaya, I dropped by BYD IOI City Mall. The salesperson honestly told me the initial planned price for the Seal was RM225k, launched in Nov'23. However due to Tesla Model 3's pricing, the launch will be in Q1'24 instead.

I personally liked the LR model, that pick up is sweet. Prior to the Model 3 LR, I tested the IX40 which I think is around 6s 0-100, that was impressive but the LR was even more impressive. And another important reason I took the LR is, the sound system! The standard is good, the LR is better and if I'm spending the time... might as well enjoy the sound system better biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 24 2023, 08:40 AM)
Now I'm feeling salty because I didn't get to try the Autopilot when I test drive at Cyberjaya sad.gif.

Prior to going to Cyberjaya, I dropped by BYD IOI City Mall. The salesperson honestly told me the initial planned price for the Seal was RM225k, launched in Nov'23. However due to Tesla Model 3's pricing, the launch will be in Q1'24 instead.

I personally liked the LR model, that pick up is sweet. Prior to the Model 3 LR, I tested the IX40 which I think is around 6s 0-100, that was impressive but the LR was even more impressive. And another important reason I took the LR is, the sound system! The standard is good, the LR is better and if I'm spending the time... might as well enjoy the sound system better biggrin.gif.
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Haha, I expect it would be a pleasant surprise since you've already booked it.

I'm coming from an FC as well, and size wise i actually feel the 3 is a little bit smaller, but the way it cocoons around the occupants gives it a cozy feel vs a cramped one.

Ah, thats a bummer if the Seal is going to start at 225k, similar to the #1, its not even a comparison.

Intentionally avoided the LR, because i knew if i plonked myself in it, i might just fall for that!

Looking forward to hearing from you once you get your hands on your new ride.
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Haha, I expect it would be a pleasant surprise since you've already booked it.

I'm coming from an FC as well, and size wise i actually feel the 3 is a little bit smaller, but the way it cocoons around the occupants gives it a cozy feel vs a cramped one.

Ah, thats a bummer if the Seal is going to start at 225k, similar to the #1, its not even a comparison.

Intentionally avoided the LR, because i knew if i plonked myself in it, i might just fall for that!

Looking forward to hearing from you once you get your hands on your new ride.
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Model 3 is definitely slightly smaller than the Civic FC for interior (however exterior is bigger, where did the space go to?). Interior size for me still acceptable, I guess the internal felt cozy due to the sunroof making the interior brighter? or looks bigger perhaps.

From FC to Model 3, I love the Model 3 steering wheel, smaller and thicker! Just like the BMW i4 M sport steering. Turning radius I read comments it was an issue for the Model 3, but so far I tested seems alright maybe a bit bigger than Civic perhaps. I arrived earlier, and I was spending some time driving at the rear side where the car park is and trying to park around and testing the indicators.

The Seal pricing, will be revised hence the delay. I believe the Smart #1 launch delayed due to this too. Going to test drive the Smart #1 tomorrow, hopefully can try the Brabus.

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 24 2023, 09:14 AM)
Model 3 is definitely slightly smaller than the Civic FC for interior (however exterior is bigger, where did the space go to?). Interior size for me still acceptable, I guess the internal felt cozy due to the sunroof making the interior brighter? or looks bigger perhaps.

From FC to Model 3, I love the Model 3 steering wheel, smaller and thicker! Just like the BMW i4 M sport steering. Turning radius I read comments it was an issue for the Model 3, but so far I tested seems alright maybe a bit bigger than Civic perhaps. I arrived earlier, and I was spending some time driving at the rear side where the car park is and trying to park around and testing the indicators.

The Seal pricing, will be revised hence the delay. I believe the Smart #1 launch delayed due to this too. Going to test drive the Smart #1 tomorrow, hopefully can try the Brabus.
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I expect its the glass roof that does that.

Definitely agree with the steering, the 3 has hit the size/thickness spot on.
Had heard the same comments on a ridiculous turning radius, but when making the u-turns on the test drive route, did it easily!

Smart is spamming me with invitations to test drive as well. Do share your thoughts in comparison to the LR once you have gotten a chance to drive it.

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