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joshgm_119
post Nov 24 2023, 08:28 AM

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Test drove the Model 3 SR in Cyber yesterday.

Coming off petrol engines with nil prior driving experience or expectations with EV's, its a pleasant surprise.

Cars heavy but feels planted, the acceleration in the SR to me personally is more than enough for urban driving.
Still able to tapau most daily drive cars with ease.

The missing signal stalk - got used to it in a couple of minutes, and by the end of the drive, did not need to look down to get the signals or wipers turned on.
Auto pilot is scary, but as long as paying attention, the car did well, even with the roads being wet and faded lane and shoulder markers on the road.
Regen was - interesting, and I get how people say you can go on and on without touching the brakes ever!

The silence in the cabin is impressive. The double paned glass makes a world of difference.
Turning radius, body roll, steering feel, all are good, and theres a confidence in throwing the car into corners.

The SR audio is decent enough - if not blasting music excessively loud. But then again, I'm no audiophile.

Caveat - having your own charger is a must. Would not consider this if relying on public charging infrastructure.

According to the TA who rode along with me, waiting period for deliveries is expected to change as more markets get this updated model from Jan onwards.
And interestingly claimed that the complimentary wallbox still has units available despite the promo ending on 31 October.
Wonder if anyone else can verify this? Or an attempt at getting me to book the car there and then la sweat.gif

The only thing I am having trouble wrapping my head around is getting away from the mindset of being able to repair mechanical issues.

Pretty much sold on the car, but only looking to book towards the end of Q1, and take delivery in Q2 2024.
Curious to see if the BYD Seal launches before that and at what price point.

Overall for the price point of the SR, comparing to any other car within a 200k budget, to me its a no brainer.
Personally have no need for the additional motor, enhanced audio and an NMC battery pack which cannot be regularly charged to a 100% for a difference of 29k.


Don't see any other new ICE car being comparable in terms of value.

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post Nov 24 2023, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 24 2023, 08:40 AM)
Now I'm feeling salty because I didn't get to try the Autopilot when I test drive at Cyberjaya sad.gif.

Prior to going to Cyberjaya, I dropped by BYD IOI City Mall. The salesperson honestly told me the initial planned price for the Seal was RM225k, launched in Nov'23. However due to Tesla Model 3's pricing, the launch will be in Q1'24 instead.

I personally liked the LR model, that pick up is sweet. Prior to the Model 3 LR, I tested the IX40 which I think is around 6s 0-100, that was impressive but the LR was even more impressive. And another important reason I took the LR is, the sound system! The standard is good, the LR is better and if I'm spending the time... might as well enjoy the sound system better biggrin.gif.
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Haha, I expect it would be a pleasant surprise since you've already booked it.

I'm coming from an FC as well, and size wise i actually feel the 3 is a little bit smaller, but the way it cocoons around the occupants gives it a cozy feel vs a cramped one.

Ah, thats a bummer if the Seal is going to start at 225k, similar to the #1, its not even a comparison.

Intentionally avoided the LR, because i knew if i plonked myself in it, i might just fall for that!

Looking forward to hearing from you once you get your hands on your new ride.
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post Nov 24 2023, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 24 2023, 09:14 AM)
Model 3 is definitely slightly smaller than the Civic FC for interior (however exterior is bigger, where did the space go to?). Interior size for me still acceptable, I guess the internal felt cozy due to the sunroof making the interior brighter? or looks bigger perhaps.

From FC to Model 3, I love the Model 3 steering wheel, smaller and thicker! Just like the BMW i4 M sport steering. Turning radius I read comments it was an issue for the Model 3, but so far I tested seems alright maybe a bit bigger than Civic perhaps. I arrived earlier, and I was spending some time driving at the rear side where the car park is and trying to park around and testing the indicators.

The Seal pricing, will be revised hence the delay. I believe the Smart #1 launch delayed due to this too. Going to test drive the Smart #1 tomorrow, hopefully can try the Brabus.
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I expect its the glass roof that does that.

Definitely agree with the steering, the 3 has hit the size/thickness spot on.
Had heard the same comments on a ridiculous turning radius, but when making the u-turns on the test drive route, did it easily!

Smart is spamming me with invitations to test drive as well. Do share your thoughts in comparison to the LR once you have gotten a chance to drive it.
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post Nov 24 2023, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(HotshotS @ Nov 24 2023, 12:58 PM)
Initially I was hesitating between SR and LR but at the end pulled the trigger on LR after some deep thoughts.

The LR has a WLTP range of 678km using the 18-inch wheel and if we were to charge to 80% this thing still has a range of 542km which is similar to the SR at 100% of charge! Moreover, whenever there's a need for a long journey, we can always charge to 100% to get the maximum range, that's flexibility. Don't forget that the LR also has a higher DC charging speed of 250kW than the SR (capable of fully utilizing Tesla Supercharger's 250kW charging).

In addition to the above, the 17-speaker setup, the 4.4s century sprint plus AWD pretty much made this choice a no-brainer at a mere RM29k. In comparison to Model Y, the price gap between the SR and LR is also much smaller for Model 3.
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True, the LR is a very compelling package.
But for my use case with almost no long journeys, 99% home charging, and another car in a few years, 29k stashed elsewhere makes more sense.
In the end a very personal choice based on lifestyles, but do enjoy your ride!
Looking forward to pics once you've got your hands on it.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 24 2023, 01:32 PM)
What is the peak charging speed for SR? I didn't know this differences!

The audio system was a deciding point for the LR, and of course the century sprint feeling is superb. After trying the LR, I love the regen braking. I've not tried the SR (SA said only can test one ._.), but I wonder if there would be differences in regen efficiency due to single vs dual motor regen? Perhaps the dual motor has more "braking power" and thus can rely on one pedal driving better.
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The regen was strong enough on the SR for me to just tap on the brakes once in the 30 minute drive, and that too from habit, not because it was needed.
Also only if you see yourself frequently supercharging to take advantage of the peak charging speed.
For a use case where charging is on home charger, that to me makes no difference.

QUOTE(blmse92 @ Nov 24 2023, 05:23 PM)
Now test drive still need appointment? can walk in?
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I would say if you can, make an appointment.
The couple who walked in after me were asked to hang around and wait for awhile until the ones with appointments were sorted.
Super quick, made my appointment just one day before.
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post Nov 28 2023, 04:01 AM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Nov 28 2023, 02:11 AM)
I see, thanks for sharing. I thought there would be nuances that are unique to EVs such as covering the battery. If it's roughly the same as ICE car then a M3 SR (plus if I transfer my NCD from my previous car) should only be like 2k-ish annually.
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If you're on facebook, i'd recommend joining the local Tesla group. Members there have shared insurance quotes and should give you a better idea.
Also, roof is glass, so seeing future owners getting windshield cover of 10k, which bumps up your premium a further RM1,500

Roughly seeing people are paying 4.5-5k on insurance with 55% NCD on an SR.
But that's with all the add ons, windshield, perils etc. Which I am definitely paying for.

Also, premiums tend to fluctuate based on your own profile/claim history.. so also got a variable there.

Battery for the Tesla is covered for 8 years / 160k km under warranty, so that's sorted.
I doubt insurance would ever cover the cost of a battery replacement if it ever came to that.

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post Jan 2 2024, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Dec 29 2023, 03:25 PM)
Things to check out when you go pick up the car.
The left door panel is not the same with the right door panel  doh.gif

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Was following this dudes case, turns out it was not just the door panel, but also the speaker harness was missing.

Definitely super important to make sure that everything is checked before driving off.

But on the plus side, Tesla sorted everything out within half a day or so?

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post Jan 3 2024, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Jan 3 2024, 09:33 AM)
This is just the case where it's a viral posted case. There maybe already be more.
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Tesla's build quality is known to be notoriously inconsistent.

And this is also not the first time this has happened, same case has happened in the US.

Buyer beware really.

Still looking forward to collect mine nonetheless.


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post Jan 4 2024, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 3 2024, 04:04 PM)
Have you been assigned a VIN? Collecting soon?
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Hahaha, the unexpected side discussion should have answered this. laugh.gif

Good connecting with you bro!
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post Jan 5 2024, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Jan 5 2024, 02:41 AM)
Hi all, I heard somewhere that for the sake of your battery's health...

TM3 SR: it doesn't really matter how you charge
TM3 LR: you have to charge between 20-80% to preserve the battery's longevity

And that is due to a difference in the SR vs LR's battery.
I forgot where I got this info from, maybe Tai Choo Yee's video on YT. Maybe I'm imagining things. But is the above correct?
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Theoretically.. yes.

There's a lot of conflicting information on this.

For me that isn't really a concern as all battery will degrade over time, there isn't anything conclusive that says the difference in battery chemistry makes a significant difference.
So personally I chose to disregard this factor and see what the other differences between SR and LR are and how they fit my lifestyle.

But plenty of materials to read/watch online if you wanna dig further on battery chemistry.
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post Jan 19 2024, 09:19 AM

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A bit of getting used to, but after day 1, have not touched my brakes at all.

Normal jam with creeping traffic is okay, but if you stuck behind someone who likes to accelerate and jam brake then you'll find folks cutting in.
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post Jan 19 2024, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Wildcat @ Jan 19 2024, 09:35 AM)
But we can still step on the accelerator and tekan brake skit skit like normal right?
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Yeah, can still drive like normal, but the moment you lift off the accelerator, its a pretty abrupt slow down, so the car actually slows before you even get to start braking.

But not difficult to get used to it.
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post Jan 19 2024, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Xenopher @ Jan 19 2024, 03:10 PM)
My sentry mode is always on (except at home) but I still occasionally unable to unlock the door even with my phone key very near to the car. (Tesla App showing 'connecting'). Wonder if they're caused by the same issue.
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I notice a delay for the phone key to detect, and so far I'm too impatient to wait or open the app. sweat.gif

When i grab the door handle, manages to unlock though.


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post Jan 19 2024, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Xenopher @ Jan 19 2024, 04:14 PM)
I think if you can unlock the door by grabbing the door handle, it means your phone key is already detected.

In my case, the door is not unlocked even after I pulled the handle, and the screen inside the car asks to tap my card key on the door pillar. But so far this only happened to me once in a while.
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Okay yeah, thats definitely something wrong.
Sounds like its worth reporting to Tesla at the very least.
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post Jan 19 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 19 2024, 02:28 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeGreenPow...mibextid=ZbWKwL

Can contact them. I installed my BYD charger with them. Very professional, goes above and beyond ST and TNB safety standards SOP
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Good to hear positive feedback.

They've just given me their proposal, and am getting them to do my installation.

First impressions are the same, very professional.
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post Jan 20 2024, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 19 2024, 11:58 PM)
Alvin? I'm gonna get him to install mine at Melaka too. Quoted RM750.
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Yep, mine requires the full scope of work though, so the standard installation package for single phase @ 1599.

With free supercharging I foresee myself being at Cyberjaya or Melaka quite often these next few months.
Might bump into you at some point brows.gif

No intention of using home charging as long as freebies are there.

Once RHB asks me to start paying I'll chase for the ChargEV membership that someone mentioned.
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post Jan 21 2024, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 20 2024, 07:01 AM)
I asked my RHB Banker, he described me as a card with some value in it. Pretty neat, I didn't expected this. Even MBB gives JomCharge which is one of the priciest around and limited.

Drop by Melaka town, do ping me tongue.gif.
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Ah, I have not yet asked my banker, but looking at their network, seems like decent coverage.
If it works well, with supercharging and this membership, can hit a year with barely using home charging.

I expect by this time next year there will be a whole LOT more EV's on the road.

Will do, expecting congestion in Melaka to be a lot more bearable with auto pilot helping. Heh



QUOTE(turtle_onrage @ Jan 21 2024, 01:18 AM)
Hi all, want to cross check my maths. Assuming I have a TM3 Long Range with a battery size of 75kWh. I am charging at a single phase 7kw charger. Price for the charging is RM3 every hour.

Assuming heat/electric lost of 10%. I need around 12 hours to fully charge the car?
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Would not be 12 hours as you would never let it drop to 0 before plugging in.
All depends how low you can let yourself go before plugging in.

I'd generally plug in between 20-40% to top up. I'm on the standard range that can charge up to 100%

On the long range, you would be topping out at 80% for daily use and going for 100% only when you intend to use it up on a road trip / extended drive.
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post Jan 22 2024, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(turtle_onrage @ Jan 21 2024, 11:40 AM)
Got it. Thanks, Just want to get a rough estimate if I am calculating the charging time and charging price correctly. So worst case, 0-100% will be around 12-13 hours? An extra hour just in case it slows down when going from 90% to 100%
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Tbh, if you were at 0% its likely you'd be looking for a tow truck sweat.gif

But yeah, as a rough approximation, i'd say its in the ballpark.

Hope it helps in making your decision.



QUOTE(iLemonx @ Jan 21 2024, 08:44 PM)
Hi guys, recently I got a permanent WFH role, gonna sell my current car and was thinking of upgrading my wife's ride to a Tesla, given that her daily commute is only 23km a day, and that I live in a condo with no access to home charging, do you guys think it's a wise move?
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My personal opinion would be no, seeing our public infra is still quite lacking and isn't really cheap.
And at the same time the number of EV's on the road is starting to pick up.

Even for me with access to home charging, still got my ICE car sitting on my porch.
But that's just me.

Not to say it can't be done, it definitely can, but whether you have the time and patience to plan out how to make it work.
And endure the possibility of waiting around for charge points to be available if crowded and the possibility that at times some may be not working also.

Good luck in making the decision!

P/S: Asking your condo JMB about charger installation wont hurt
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post Apr 9 2024, 05:34 AM

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QUOTE(xom89 @ Apr 8 2024, 02:58 PM)
hi all sifus, wanna ask for Tesla basic autopilot, assume in front no car, and I set speed limit at 110 kmh on highway, does it automatic slow down for corner?

Or I have to buy the Enhance Autopilot for this?
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highways generally have sweeping corners and not sharp ones, so it doesnt really slow down.
but having tried on KL roads, yeah, if it senses its approaching a sharper corner and does brake.

basic autopilot here.
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post Apr 11 2024, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 9 2024, 06:51 AM)
Unless refer to highway exit...  laugh.gif sweeping those at 110 km/h is going to be quite kanchiong.
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Oof yeah, uneven roads and corners, bugger gives me an adrenaline rush with the braking and then accelerating outta the corner.

Feels dangerous, but it stays well within the lane.

Tested up to illegal speeds when theres zero traffic in the middle of the night.

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post Apr 11 2024, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 11 2024, 11:39 AM)
Max out at 140 km/h isn't it? for AP that is.
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Yup, would only dare max it on empty roads.

As safe as it is, my heart cannot take it tongue.gif

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