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post Aug 10 2023, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Aug 9 2023, 01:16 PM)
I did angiogram before since cardiologist suspect blockage. Fortunately, my vessels are clear, not blocking.
I still remember the feeling of crawling catherer through my arm.  brows.gif
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what test you perform to know got blockage or not? And how much the test?
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post Aug 10 2023, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 10 2023, 12:01 PM)
damn scary

is there any other non evasive method ?

You straight went for Angiogram? maybe you didn't pass other test that you required this?
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My heart MRI result shows possible blockage but the MRI specialist (another doctor) said it was inconclusive due to beating heart may generate blurry image on vessels.
Thus refer me to cardiologist who can perform the angiogram. Of course he did explain to me if angiogram confirmed blockage, then immediately do angioplasty.

I stay awake throughout the he whole process (angiogram only, no angioplasty for me), cardiologist explained very clearly on my heart condition in real time.

Non-evasive method is on blood thinning medicine. However, there are many types of "blood thinning".
Nowadays cardiologists prescribe anti-platlet rather than anti-coagulant to prevent blood clot forming in your body.
It is safer and you may go for wisdom tooth extraction without much worry on anti-platlet medicine, which I did 2 weeks ago.

Again, it is up to personal health condition and your cardiologist decision. I am started on long term medicatio since Oct last year.

This post has been edited by Dothan: Aug 10 2023, 01:41 PM
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post Aug 10 2023, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 10 2023, 01:37 PM)
what test you perform to know got blockage or not? And how much the test?
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Please refer to my latest reply to TS.

The MRI and Angiogram were fully covered by my medical insurance.
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post Aug 10 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Aug 10 2023, 01:39 PM)
My heart MRI result shows possible blockage but the MRI specialist (another doctor) said it was inconclusive due to beating heart may generate blurry image on vessels.
Thus refer me to cardiologist who can perform the angiogram. Of course he did explain to me if angiogram confirmed blockage, then immediately do angioplasty.

I stay awake throughout the he whole process (angiogram only, no angioplasty for me), cardiologist explained very clearly on my heart condition in real time.

Non-evasive method is on blood thinning medicine. However, there are many types of "blood thinning".
Nowadays cardiologists prescribe anti-platlet rather than anti-coagulant to prevent blood clot forming in your body.
It is safer and you may go for wisdom tooth extraction without much worry on anti-platlet medicine, which I did 2 weeks ago.

Again, it is up to personal health condition and your cardiologist decision. I am started on long term medicatio since Oct last year.
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Why don't use Cat Scan ?


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post Aug 10 2023, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Aug 10 2023, 01:32 PM)
I have chest pain occasionally and went to do blood test and found out my cholesterol on high side. Doctor said potential blood artillery too much fat (sorry dont know the exact medical terms, but hope you got it). I did my stress test on treadmill last year and was fine, haven't done it this year.

My doctor advised me to control my diet for next 6 months, and will do blood test again. If cholesterol is high, then will need to take pills.
Family has heart attack history so the chest pain is worrying to me.

About myself: early 40s, 75kg, bmi is good.
Non alcoholic nor smoker
Exercise: 3-4 times badminton a week (each time 2-3 hours, with about 20-30 mins break in between)

Sharing my diet plan here if it helps!

Breakfast: Metamucil (this helps with cholesterol, not meal replacement), milo with oat and raisin
Lunch: Simple toast, fruits, avocado, etc.
Dinner: White meat (chicken, seafood), no red meat (pork, beef, lamb)

Avoid dairy products, milk, cheese, condensed milk, ice cream. Occassionally is fine.

Admit the fact we are no longer in our 20s! biggrin.gif
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how tall r you?

At 75kg u are borderline BMI overweight, unless u are very tall.

Badminton can kill you if you have blockages.

Stress test is not a guarantee to detect blockages.

if u have heart pain must be something really serious, did u go see a cardio?
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post Aug 10 2023, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 10 2023, 02:08 PM)
Why don't use Cat Scan ?
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CCTA exposes you to x-ray dosage, even though it is non-invasive.
Angiogram can lead to angioplastry immediately. And angiogram is the gold standard to diagnose blockage.
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post Aug 10 2023, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(guysmiley @ Aug 9 2023, 10:35 AM)
weird bcoz doctor said better bypass as it can last longer than angioplatsy.
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i was told by my doctor the opposite...i had my 1st angiogram/angioplasty at age 40...5 stents. 2nd Angioplasty at age 52..1 stent. Bypass at age 54..only after no stenting options. So roughly i had a 14 years time gap before having to do the Bypass.
Dont worry about Angioplasty...nowadays its done to so many...its almost like a small procedure but the end result is almost a miracle..you will feel much energetic and younger...believe me....3 days after surgery you will be back home...a week after that..you will be brist walking in the garden..everything will come back normal...including all those evil-vice habits that got you there at the first place... whistling.gif icon_idea.gif

Stay away from everything sugary...that will kill you more then nicotine. No worries...dont listen to quarks..do your own research..learning more about your conditions will bring you more understanding ..acceptance and peace...take care!

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 9 2023, 11:49 AM)
blood thinners never address the problem.
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Blood Thinners will save your life....it works like the "Fully-Synthetic" engine oil for your "piston" to move or pump with lesser obstruction....more or less make the heart..blood...arteries..works smoother. Side effects might be a more "watery" blood..meaning minor injury like small cuts will bleeding out more easily but no worry...it will stop..eventually. i am on blood thinners for 20 years+...no worries...viagra will help you return to your old glory... whistling.gif
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post Aug 10 2023, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(momento2 @ Aug 10 2023, 02:24 PM)
i was told by my doctor the opposite...i had my 1st angiogram/angioplasty at age 40...5 stents. 2nd Angioplasty at age 52..1 stent. Bypass at age 54..only after no stenting options. So roughly i had a 14 years time gap before having to do the Bypass.
Dont worry about Angioplasty...nowadays its done to so many...its almost like a small procedure but the end result is almost a miracle..you will feel much energetic and younger...believe me....3 days after surgery you will be back home...a week after that..you will be brist walking in the garden..everything will come back normal...including all those evil-vice habits that got you there at the first place... whistling.gif  icon_idea.gif

Stay away from everything sugary...that will kill you more then nicotine. No worries...dont listen to quarks..do your own research..learning more about your conditions will bring you more understanding ..acceptance and peace...take care!
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still can eat meat or not now after bypass?
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post Aug 10 2023, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(momento2 @ Aug 10 2023, 02:24 PM)
i was told by my doctor the opposite...i had my 1st angiogram/angioplasty at age 40...5 stents. 2nd Angioplasty at age 52..1 stent. Bypass at age 54..only after no stenting options. So roughly i had a 14 years time gap before having to do the Bypass.
Dont worry about Angioplasty...nowadays its done to so many...its almost like a small procedure but the end result is almost a miracle..you will feel much energetic and younger...believe me....3 days after surgery you will be back home...a week after that..you will be brist walking in the garden..everything will come back normal...including all those evil-vice habits that got you there at the first place... whistling.gif  icon_idea.gif

Stay away from everything sugary...that will kill you more then nicotine. No worries...dont listen to quarks..do your own research..learning more about your conditions will bring you more understanding ..acceptance and peace...take care!
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I was nervous first before the surgery after knowing what the surgery like. Check in early 1st day before surgery as doctor want to monitor and shave the groin area as precaution. 2nd day for early morning surgery, 3rd day before noon check out. Gone 1 Axia sweat.gif

QUOTE(momento2 @ Aug 10 2023, 03:23 PM)
Blood Thinners will save your life....it works like the "Fully-Synthetic" engine oil for your "piston" to move or pump with lesser obstruction....more or less make the heart..blood...arteries..works smoother. Side effects might be a more "watery" blood..meaning minor injury like small cuts will bleeding out more easily but no worry...it will stop..eventually. i am on blood thinners for 20 years+...no worries...viagra will help you return to your old glory... whistling.gif
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no wonder me underperform in that hmm.gif
celaka.. doctor no explain on this laugh.gif

This post has been edited by Iceman74: Aug 10 2023, 04:45 PM
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post Aug 10 2023, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(momento2 @ Aug 10 2023, 02:24 PM)
i was told by my doctor the opposite...i had my 1st angiogram/angioplasty at age 40...5 stents. 2nd Angioplasty at age 52..1 stent. Bypass at age 54..only after no stenting options. So roughly i had a 14 years time gap before having to do the Bypass.
Dont worry about Angioplasty...nowadays its done to so many...its almost like a small procedure but the end result is almost a miracle..you will feel much energetic and younger...believe me....3 days after surgery you will be back home...a week after that..you will be brist walking in the garden..everything will come back normal...including all those evil-vice habits that got you there at the first place... whistling.gif  icon_idea.gif

Stay away from everything sugary...that will kill you more then nicotine. No worries...dont listen to quarks..do your own research..learning more about your conditions will bring you more understanding ..acceptance and peace...take care!
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wah you have 6 stents and 1 bypass.

are you like overweight? not exercise? like to eat a lot of oily goreng food?

curious.

u got high blood pressure?
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post Aug 10 2023, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(momento2 @ Aug 10 2023, 03:23 PM)
Blood Thinners will save your life....it works like the "Fully-Synthetic" engine oil for your "piston" to move or pump with lesser obstruction....more or less make the heart..blood...arteries..works smoother. Side effects might be a more "watery" blood..meaning minor injury like small cuts will bleeding out more easily but no worry...it will stop..eventually. i am on blood thinners for 20 years+...no worries...viagra will help you return to your old glory... whistling.gif
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i know.

but it still doesn't address the partial blockage at all.
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post Aug 10 2023, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Aug 10 2023, 02:23 PM)
CCTA exposes you to x-ray dosage, even though it is non-invasive.
Angiogram can lead to angioplastry immediately. And angiogram is the gold standard to diagnose blockage.
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Here's what I obtained the risk of angiogram:


An angiogram is a test that uses X-rays and contrast dye to visualize the blood vessels in the body12345.Some of the risks of an angiogram include12345:
Bleeding, infection and irregular heartbeat at the puncture site
Stroke, heart attack or death due to blood vessel injury or blockage
Allergic reaction to the contrast dye
Kidney damage or failure
Radiation exposure from the X-rays
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post Aug 10 2023, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 10 2023, 05:33 PM)
i know.

but it still doesn't address the partial blockage at all.
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Err... no, it doesn't "address" the partial blockage, but it is still a part of the solution.
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post Aug 10 2023, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 10 2023, 05:33 PM)
i know.

but it still doesn't address the partial blockage at all.
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Of course. Or else cardiologist no pay already. You need people to come back after xyz years right? That's why I said don't belived the cardiologist fully. Cause lots of them just follow the guidelines. Nothing in the guideline, they don't care.

Those not in guideline are research and homework you need to do yourself. If it's not a drug, pharma companies don't care about it
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 10 2023, 02:10 PM)
how tall r you?

At 75kg u are borderline BMI overweight, unless u are very tall.

Badminton can kill you if you have blockages.

Stress test is not a guarantee to detect blockages.

if u have heart pain must be something really serious, did u go see a cardio?
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My BMI is consider normal range, but if i gain another 2 kg will be overweight!
Hence trying to lose my weight to 70kg.

I'm a regular badminton player, try not to stress out myself and take breath between serves.
If feeling dizziness and "blackout" during badminton, STOP playing and rest.
Had chest pain ocassionally hence went to see GP and specialist, but now condition improving and no chest pain.

I believe it was because I was on business traveling for close to 2 months, and didn't exercise during that period and ate too much.
And when I come back to play my regular badminton (3-4 times a week), my body can't cope because of the additional fat I put on and muscles are not ready.
Now almost 2-3 months later, I am back to my regular self.

Having said all that, I still control my diet and play badminton within my capability (old man style playing).
I will get another check up this December and see how it goes, and will see cardiologist again if required.
The last time I have seen cardiologist was early 2022 and wasall good.

This post has been edited by HappyA_Q: Aug 11 2023, 04:18 AM
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post Aug 11 2023, 06:04 AM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 10 2023, 05:35 PM)
Here's what I obtained the risk of angiogram:
An angiogram is a test that uses X-rays and contrast dye to visualize the blood vessels in the body12345.Some of the risks of an angiogram include12345:
Bleeding, infection and irregular heartbeat at the puncture site
Stroke, heart attack or death due to blood vessel injury or blockage
Allergic reaction to the contrast dye
Kidney damage or failure
Radiation exposure from the X-rays
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To me, I feel the benefits is greater than the risks.
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 10 2023, 05:35 PM)
Here's what I obtained the risk of angiogram:
An angiogram is a test that uses X-rays and contrast dye to visualize the blood vessels in the body12345.Some of the risks of an angiogram include12345:
Bleeding, infection and irregular heartbeat at the puncture site
Stroke, heart attack or death due to blood vessel injury or blockage
Allergic reaction to the contrast dye
Kidney damage or failure
Radiation exposure from the X-rays
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Gone for a CT angiogram twice over the past 10 years. No issues twice and I believe it was worth the risk.
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 10 2023, 01:37 PM)
what test you perform to know got blockage or not? And how much the test?
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I was once quoted around RM2.5k at a private hospital. But I claimed it via insurance.
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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Aug 10 2023, 01:32 PM)
Sharing my diet plan here if it helps!

Breakfast: Metamucil (this helps with cholesterol, not meal replacement), milo with oat and raisin
Lunch: Simple toast, fruits, avocado, etc.
Dinner: White meat (chicken, seafood), no red meat (pork, beef, lamb)

Avoid dairy products, milk, cheese, condensed milk, ice cream. Occassionally is fine.

Admit the fact we are no longer in our 20s! biggrin.gif
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Avoid Milo and Raisins.

Both are very high in sugar.

It'll be better if you can cut down on anything that is high in carbohydrates

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