Have been browsing Carlist.com for a month and I noticed, whatever model of car you search, there will be a 10-20x longer lists of “Dealer” compared to “Private”? Same thing on Carousell or any other platform, it’s always full of dealerships than direct car owners wanting to sell their used cars.

Since dealers are notorious for tempering with mileage/odometer, lying about accident/flood/ownership history and such, why do people still sell to them instead of selling to end users interested in used cars?

The logic is, since dealers will always want to buy at the lowest price (understandably since it’s their biz nature), why don’t ppl just sell directly to interested buyers? Do dealers save you so much time that buying/selling with them make it more worthwhile than buying/selling with individuals?

unless u gonna buy cash, u need a dealer to handle the bank side for loan

less hassle, don't need to find buyers

less stressful, no need to deal with bunch of paperworks and stuff

convenience, buying a car through trade in means I can keep using my current car up until the day the new car is delivered

and dont need to deal with a lot picky buyer .... when buyer find private seller, they have high expectation compared to used car, and also low baller a lot.

It's a price to pay for a lot less headache, less chances being conned, etc.

If you can hold on to the car while waiting for the perfect buyer, of course it is more preferable to sell to private buyer. But you can also expect to be lowballed and handle a number of paperwork on your own. To some people, it would be worth it, but to most, it is much more convenient to sell to carsome/mytukar/2nd hand dealer.

Most of the time the car sold has issues. So throw to dealer to avoid kena harass by innocent buyer if buy directly


Also don’t need to deal with paperwork etc. that’s why dealer charge processing fee so seller don’t need to have headache

not really, you can go to bank and apply for Hire and Purchase doc and etc... can apply directly as long as you prepare all the necessary documents, i think

because human are fickle bunch, they rather take a financial hit & worry about it later, as long as they can portray a certain outlook to people they dont know as long as ada gaya

dealer:
lowball price
takes care of entire process
has other inventory to sell to the customer with "deals" since they are trading in
damage on car is also considered minor

most importantly, dealer will take cars which are still under bank loan where as if an individual were to sell their car which is still owned by the bank, they will have to pay it off first. Although there is a way to sell to the other party with same bank, I believe it is a complicated process, not to mention finding an ideal buyer to even take on this tasks.

Not to mention when buying, human also lazy to do the work where as dealer can perform all of the work with a fee.

I've bought & sold 9 of my cars on my own, 1 was purchased from used car but with recommendation & was in rush to get one, cash buy anyway.

i sold personally before, so many hassle and troublesome buyer.

buyer appoint to test drive, come visit, come late, didnt make it, last minute change mind, all sort of weird reasons while i already make up my own time but buyer put aeroplane.

then when all is fixed, need to find a runner to do all the jpj form tests, fingerprint transfername.
queue jpj to test the car. gosh hassle.

and moneywise is another thing, buyer dont dare to pay first before name transfer and i dont dare to transfer name before payment.

used dealer also competitive liao. owner can pick which shop they wanted.

Will the same happen when buying/selling with a dealer?

When selling, if we’re not trading in for another car but just want cash, should we leave the car keys to dealer before or after getting full payment?

When buying (let’s say with cash and no loan involved), should we pay before or after seeing our name on the JPJ cert? If we pay 1st what if dealer cabut (or vice versa)? I don’t imagine it’s so easy to COD a big ticket item like a car

when selling just giv you keys to them, they need to take your car to jpj to do tests. they will issue you a receipt after taking your car.

when buying, normally i pay deposit, then when name transfer is done then pay the balance. these all agreement depends on you both,
if you buy form a reputable 2nd hand dealer like in a whole big center full of 2nd hand dealer they wont run, they got a shop there and normally is their sales rep deal with you and not the boss. not to mention they got much more pricy car like bmw and merc in their porch, not worth to scam.

if you deal with a weird guy side of the road or something then avoid it.

but my opinion this is not something i worried about, the car condition is what i worried about, lets say the engine / transmission failure after 2 weeks or 1 month of driving, and those shop claims they have 1 year warranty, it will be a mess and pushing here and there unless you got a 3rd party engine/transmission insurance warranty.

From the buying experience of a used car, purchasing from a direct owner has these level of experience:

- finding the right deal from many platforms (like mudah etc)
- assurance that advertised details are accurate (lady driver! why should this matter?)
- view/test drive car (and learn about some of the features which the car doesn't even have!)
- agree mechanic inspection (and finding the right mechanic)
- if all goes through - sort out payment/loan
- check service history (hope no flood/accident)
- pay booking amount (what to do if seller runs away?)
- transfer process (is actually not that difficult)
- pay money (depends when seller demands it!)

Patience is the key to get the best deal!
Still I wish there was some kind of buyer protection or Escrow.

With the reputable dealer - at least they won't cheat with money and run away (can bankrupt but not run!).

Most peace of mind (my opinion) is manufacturer's own pre-owned program (like P2 POV).

As someone mentioned, my reasons are:
1) avoid being bugged by un-gentleman buyer who calls you to ask this and that after getting the car (when was this last changed, which spare part number should I get to replace this/that), or complain this and that.

2) avoid the hassle to deal with buyers who are not serious, or expect to buy at much lower price that what a dealer charges for similar car (without taking into account of football money they need to pay to dealers).

If car still has an unsettled loan, you can opt to sell yourself if you have the cash to settle the loan. If not, then better opt for used car dealer. Also a lot of running around going to remove windows tinting for windscreen and driver side before going to Puspakom for inspection. Then pass all the documents to JPJ to do thumbprint and transfer.

Selling yourself get higher price, BUT you will get lots of calls from lowballers and window-shoppers wasting your time and ruining your mood.


Easier to just pass the car to used car dealer and let them settle everything. Just have some good negotiation skills and do homework to get better pricing.

Another reason to sell to dealer is car in not good condition like hidden probems. Things like bad transmission or bad engine hard to sell to enduser directly. Just sell it to used car dealers who didn't manage to find out the problem. LOL...

Why need to remove windows tinting? If pass 50% VLT should be ok?

Yes, no need to remove if confident paas 50% VLT for front sides window as per Puspakom machine reading. Those sold online portable VLT reader is reading 6 ~ 8% higher than Puspakom, i.e Puspakom reading is very stringent.

Rather than going 2 rounds (if failed), most will remove it. A dirty window will also affect reading.

This post has been edited by mot88: Jul 4 2023, 08:28 PM

nope, you can handle it directly yourself with the bank loan officer and no need to pay "processing fee" of those stealers.. i mean dealers
Did it for 3 cars already. Don't even need to personally meet up, can just email everything, except for sign loan docs, that one meet up easier.

Yes, for sure boleh.