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post Jun 25 2023, 07:37 PM, updated 3y ago

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i don't understand why people keep complaining phone storage not enough. dO YoU GuYs NoT hAve ClOuD SToRaGe?

i keep all my shit on my shitty 2021 128gb iphone with 2TB family icloud subscription (USD9.99 a month). every photo gets uploaded immediately. I never run of of space despite having thousands of full res videos.

and I never worry about losing my phone. if I did lose it, a restored iphone with all my data is in my hand within 2 hours.

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post Jun 25 2023, 07:40 PM

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post Jun 25 2023, 07:42 PM

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That’s 50 ringgit every month, means 600 ringgit per year subscription.
I would think it is expensive.
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:44 PM

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i don't even need to, i wrote my own app and host it and free cloud storage upload back to my server. anytime also can restore. 8tb is dirt cheap to buy this days
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:42 PM)
That’s 50 ringgit every month, means 600 ringgit per year subscription.
I would think it is expensive.
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i share with 3 family members. the alternative to insufficient memory is buying a large phone but it's not safe (lose your phone, lose your data) and also cumbersome to backup every day.

not wise also.. if you have kids and take videos everyday, 1TB phone also not enough. cloud storage basically unlimited.
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:46 PM

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Yeah, paid for one drive, but how to setup
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 25 2023, 07:44 PM)
i don't even need to, i wrote my own app and host it and free cloud storage upload back to my server. anytime also can restore. 8tb is dirt cheap to buy this days
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congrats you genius. but most people value convenience. once i realize how convenient it is to use airpods (like pop up case, immediately gets connected via bluetooth), i never look at other brands anymore, despite having a cheaper price tag or better sound quality. the smooth user experience cannot be replaced. you gonna write a custom app and back up manually every day? not for me.

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post Jun 25 2023, 07:48 PM

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post Jun 25 2023, 07:49 PM

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Even with 200GB iCloud and 1TB OneDrive I still need a 256gb phone at least. For my offline music and videos.
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jun 25 2023, 07:46 PM)
Yeah, paid for one drive, but how to setup
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change to iphone and all your problems go away.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:48 PM)
congrats you genius. but most people value convenience. once i realize how convenient it is to use airpods (like pop up case, immediately gets connected via bluetooth), i never look at other brands anymore, despite having a cheaper price tag or better sound quality. the smooth user experience cannot be replaced. you gonna write a custom app and back up manually every day? not for me.
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havent u heard of scripts?
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:42 PM)
That’s 50 ringgit every month, means 600 ringgit per year subscription.
I would think it is expensive.
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3.90 a month for 50gb. The cheapest storage that Apple sells.
My ipong is 128gb and it is not even half filled after almost 2 years.
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:48 PM)
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Does Apple monetize user data? Genuine question. Or what are you worried about?
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jun 25 2023, 07:52 PM)
Does Apple monetize user data? Genuine question. Or what are you worried about?
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They can just use it internally no?
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:54 PM

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Buy the cloud storage and you are on their mercy,they can increase price and you are virtually stuck with them.
And how confident are you that the storage content won’t be compromised?
Later your nude photo leak out. Hahaha
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:54 PM

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Been there done that.
Living worry free since upgraded to 2tb.
Some more can share with few people.
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:51 PM)
havent u heard of scripts?
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you speak like everyone knows how to write a custom app. i don't ever want to deal with the hassles like making sure it's working over time (despite ios updates), granting permission and maintenance of my own data storage. how sure are you that your back up file will work? and how optimized is the compression? apple spends billions on research and engineering. i'd gladly pay $10 a month for a solution that works.
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:54 PM

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ah. macam ni rupanya fikiran applefag.
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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:53 PM)
They can just use it internally no?
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iCloud backups are end to end encrypted I think so they can’t see it. I think photos they can see brows.gif they wanted to start automated scanning for CP but got push back. But aside from that they can’t really see a lot of these personal data.
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post Jun 25 2023, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:54 PM)
Buy the cloud storage and you are on their mercy,they can increase price and you are virtually stuck with them.
And how confident are you that the storage content won’t be compromised?
Later your nude photo leak out. Hahaha
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fappening happened because people used easy to guess passwords and 2FA wasn't a requirement back then. it's not icloud's fault. if it is, people would be bringing apple to courts.

ever noticed no more fappening happened after that? it's a lot more secured now.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:56 PM)
fappening happened because people used easy to guess passwords and 2FA wasn't a requirement back then. it's not icloud's fault. if it is, people would be bringing apple to courts.

ever noticed no more fappening happened after that? it's a lot more secured now.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:54 PM)
you speak like everyone knows how to write a custom app. i don't ever want to deal with the hassles like making sure it's working over time (despite ios updates), granting permission and maintenance of my own data storage. how sure are you that your back up file will work? and how optimized is the compression? apple spends billions on research and engineering. i'd gladly pay $10 a month for a solution that works.
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i didnt, if you know how to do all the technical stuffs and save some money why not? but if u dun know, then pay for the convenience la, did i say your approach sucks? lol
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:00 PM

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Crazy how apple used to sell 16gb iPhones
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 25 2023, 11:42 AM)
That’s 50 ringgit every month, means 600 ringgit per year subscription.
I would think it is expensive.
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This reply, TS.

Apparently, some people is so in the hurry in their life, more hurrier than me who earn berlambaks per month.

Even I dun went ahead and get thouse Amazon prime, Yutub premium, whatever subs, and you yourself that's poor like fuark went and subs everything like its all fun to take installment plans.

Sohai or no-hai, I really cannot brain.

No wonder people like TS is sheeples. What's next? Buy a Mercedes and pay for vroom vroom subs to drive past 120km/j instead of a potong zakar that can anytime tapow 150kmj?
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:02 PM

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isnt there a new tech

where you can insert a few hard drives and make it into a server just at the back of your router ?
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:04 PM

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U bought the most expensive phone on the market still pay apple monthly. What dumb reasoning is this
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Once stored, bila bila naik harga also can.

Later kena hacked, pura-pura said tak tahu.
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jun 25 2023, 07:54 PM)
iCloud backups are end to end encrypted I think so they can’t see it. I think photos they can see brows.gif they wanted to start automated scanning for CP but got push back. But aside from that they can’t really see a lot of these personal data.
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kek. the Fappening icloud hack anyone?
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:16 PM

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2tb for 10usd is expensive la ts.
2tb ssd are now around 73usd already.
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Only ifags being okay getting charged a premium more for shit others already get earlier or at a more competitive price.

Perfect waterfishes. Apple's marketing department really god level.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:34 PM

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Sorry wont be taking advise from someone appointed by his own mum to keep rm100k in fd as her safekeeper.

Yinstead go blew it on a stock market and lose 40% of it lmao

Totally not a trustable person at all teda moral punya worank

Puikk!!

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Sorry noob here. I subscribe OneDrive and iCloud. But don’t know how to properly use. Normally I just upload it manually and then delete in the phone. How about auto sync? Is it auto delete photos inside the phone after uploaded into cloud server?

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I just need to auto backup both my phone, but one drive no such option, saperate backup
I don want sync both device, just need backup to saperate folder
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But cloud storage csnnot install genshin impact
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Jun 25 2023, 08:39 PM)
Sorry noob here. I subscribe OneDrive and iCloud. But don’t know how to properly use. Normally I just upload it manually and then delete in the phone. How about auto sync? Is it auto delete photos inside the photo after uploaded into cloud server?
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just turn on auto sync in your phone's settings. make sure you turn on auto back up also. so everything will be backed up, not just the media. for the photos and videos, your phone will automatically make them online only. your phone automatically download only when you want to view. then remove again when you've finished loading. no need to manually upload.
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Jun 25 2023, 08:39 PM)
Sorry noob here. I subscribe OneDrive and iCloud. But don’t know how to properly use. Normally I just upload it manually and then delete in the phone. How about auto sync? Is it auto delete photos inside the photo after uploaded into cloud server?
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There may have auto upload/sync, but there shouldn't be auto delete after upload as of now, maybe in future they'll add auto delete after uploaded.



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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 25 2023, 08:34 PM)
Sorry wont be taking advise from someone appointed by his own mum to keep rm100k in fd as her safekeeper.

Yinstead go blew it on a stock market and lose 40% of it lmao

Totally not a trustable person at all teda moral punya worank

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my mum where got 100k only? she is richer than I do as a pesara. salah orang la.
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can iphone backup to google?
planning to jump to apple fanboy soon, would like to sync the same backup instead of 2 different clouds
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Jun 25 2023, 08:45 PM)
There may have auto upload/sync, but there shouldn't be auto delete after upload as of now, maybe in future they'll add auto delete after uploaded.
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sure have auto delete la.. else no point moving online. one of the benedits is to save space, the other is back up. but technically not delete, it's called making the files online or offline. Offline means both your phone and cloud have it. online means only cloud.


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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:48 PM)
congrats you genius. but most people value convenience. once i realize how convenient it is to use airpods (like pop up case, immediately gets connected via bluetooth), i never look at other brands anymore, despite having a cheaper price tag or better sound quality. the smooth user experience cannot be replaced. you gonna write a custom app and back up manually every day? not for me.
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I concur with TS about the convenience and ease of use of the Apple ecosystem. My AirPods Max is just like your AirPods. Take it out from case and it will immediately connect to my active Apple device. No need to fumble around.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 08:45 PM)
just turn on auto sync in your phone's settings. make sure you turn on auto back up also. so everything will be backed up, not just the media. for the photos and videos, your phone will automatically make them online only. your phone automatically download only when you want to view. then remove again when you've finished loading. no need to manually upload.
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Let say if I take the photo, then it will auto sync & backup into cloud, after that it will auto delete that photo inside the phone?
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QUOTE(OldSchoolJoke @ Jun 25 2023, 08:48 PM)
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can iphone backup to google?
planning to jump to apple fanboy soon, would like to sync the same backup instead of 2 different clouds
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i've only used icloud for my iphone. too lazy to research on other solutions like dropbox or google drive. although icloud works on macbooks. i prefer to use dropbox for my macbook though. it's less important than my phone and I really like the smart sync feature that allows me to restore files to whichever version i like. it's also significantly faster than icloud.
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Jun 25 2023, 08:59 PM)
Let say if I take the photo, then it will auto sync & backup into cloud, after that it will auto delete that photo inside the phone?
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yes, although the right term is not delete. photos will still be clickable on your phone. but when you tap on it, only the low res version will show immediately, then wait 1~2 seconds for the full res to complete sync. when move to antoher photo, the high res version gets removed again.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 08:48 PM)
sure have auto delete la.. else no point moving online. one of the benedits is to save space, the other is back up. but technically not delete, it's called making the files online or offline. Offline means both your phone and cloud have it. online means only cloud.
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sure have auto delete la.. else no point moving online. one of the benedits is to save space, the other is back up.
No auto delete. Manual delete. But it's a good idea, so maybe in future.

but technically not delete, it's called making the files online or offline. Offline means both your phone and cloud have it. online means only cloud.
This is right.


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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Jun 25 2023, 08:59 PM)
Let say if I take the photo, then it will auto sync & backup into cloud, after that it will auto delete that photo inside the phone?
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Low res kept on phone but if it’s a recent photo I think will have high quality.

You can also opt to keep it locally in additional to cloud
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took 50gb icloud just to backup whatsapp.
and it doesnt work. till now cant backup whatsapp.
apada........
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Later kena fappening baru u tau.

I still dun trust personal data/photo in cloud service.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:51 PM)
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Very dumb response sorry.

iCloud is not just for photo videos. WhatsApp is uploaded there too.

The average person won’t be having their own server and writing scripts and custom app.

Also let’s not get into data replication.

And iCloud is synced between iPad and Mac too. Ya gonna tell me your script gonna do that too?

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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 25 2023, 07:44 PM)
i don't even need to, i wrote my own app and host it and free cloud storage upload back to my server. anytime also can restore. 8tb is dirt cheap to buy this days
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What if ur cloud server storage failure ? Everything gone?
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jun 25 2023, 09:28 PM)
Very dumb response sorry.

Imagine you take bunch of holiday photos. Then suddenly lost your phone.

How’s your script going to help you recover your photos? You gonna bring your laptop and storage to holiday also it it?

Cloud storage cannot be compared to physical storage. Cloud photos are stored instantly (if internet present)
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maybe he is able to produce a script that is as good as the built-in icloud auto back up function leh? the software that apple spent millions if not billions to build. also, able to work with ios updates.

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:27 PM)
took 50gb icloud just to backup whatsapp.
and it doesnt work. till now cant backup whatsapp.
apada........
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sad to say.... maybe it's user problem cos mine is okay. if media important, save it to photos then you can have a back up cos all photos are synced.
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Use Google Photos app on iPhone, can backup to Google. Using 'saver' settings, so far stored quite a lot with free Google acc. And with Google photos, there is a search function, super convenient can search for people , items, places, etc.
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:42 PM)
That’s 50 ringgit every month, means 600 ringgit per year subscription.
I would think it is expensive.
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It’s rm40 for Malaysia price
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jenifer lawrence and friends said same thing...
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:42 PM)
That’s 50 ringgit every month, means 600 ringgit per year subscription.
I would think it is expensive.
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jun 25 2023, 09:28 PM)
Very dumb response sorry.

iCloud is not just for photo videos. WhatsApp is uploaded there too.

The average person won’t be having their own server and writing scripts and custom app.

Also let’s not get into data replication.

And iCloud is synced between iPad and Mac too. Ya gonna tell me your script gonna do that too?
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wow, didnt expect my simple 1 line reply can trigger hardcore apple sheeps so much until write an essay to counter me bck laugh.gif

feeling so insecure huh? yaya you very smart i get it whistling.gif

btw im not gonna pay close to a thousand of ringgit a year to sync data across my phone, laptops, tablets etc, there are many free alternatives out there whistling.gif , but well i guess apple users are rich so they wouldnt mind paying so much for convenience whistling.gif , and also they seems to be short on EQ also laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:37 PM)
i don't understand why people keep complaining phone storage not enough. dO YoU GuYs NoT hAve ClOuD SToRaGe?

i keep all my shit on my shitty 2021 128gb iphone with 2TB family icloud subscription (USD9.99 a month). every photo gets uploaded immediately. I never run of of space despite having thousands of full res videos.

and I never worry about losing my phone. if I did lose it, a restored iphone with all my data is in my hand within 2 hours.
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2TB storage let say SSD about RM300-500 one time.
With cloud storage 2TB is RM45 per month or RM540 per annum.

Let say you use for next 30 years, you will spend RM16k for subscription.
Meanwhile the physical storage you bought still RM300-500 (let say with lifespan of 10 years for physical storage), so RM500*3=RM1500.

So in 30 years, total cost for cloud storage is 10x higher.

Also note that physical storage /GB is cheaper over time but cloud storage service does not drop price over time (in fact may increase).
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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:27 PM)
took 50gb icloud just to backup whatsapp.
and it doesnt work. till now cant backup whatsapp.
apada........
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Sometimes can sometimes cannot right? Or need to click “Backup now” then only can work?
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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:27 PM)
took 50gb icloud just to backup whatsapp.
and it doesnt work. till now cant backup whatsapp.
apada........
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This one Whatsapp problem, I tried restore backup from GDrive last time also like corrupt file. Total lost smh
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:37 PM)
i don't understand why people keep complaining phone storage not enough. dO YoU GuYs NoT hAve ClOuD SToRaGe?

i keep all my shit on my shitty 2021 128gb iphone with 2TB family icloud subscription (USD9.99 a month). every photo gets uploaded immediately. I never run of of space despite having thousands of full res videos.

and I never worry about losing my phone. if I did lose it, a restored iphone with all my data is in my hand within 2 hours.
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I am using Huawei ...and cloud service 1 TB is only RM84 per year.
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:51 PM)
2TB storage let say SSD about RM300-500 one time.
With cloud storage 2TB is RM45 per month or RM540 per annum.

Let say you use for next 30 years, you will spend RM16k for subscription.
Meanwhile the physical storage you bought still RM300-500 (let say with lifespan of 10 years for physical storage), so RM500*3=RM1500.

So in 30 years, total cost for cloud storage is 10x higher.

Also note that physical storage /GB is cheaper over time but cloud storage service does not drop price over time (in fact may increase).
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talk cock lah you. even the cheapest centOS server from vultr is USD2.5 a month. don't tell me it'll be cheaper if you host your own server using your home unifi.

then you gonna write the app that can sync with your own server without bugs? like as good as the native app? backup every new photo the instance you take it that kind of good. and deal with the maintenance whenever there is an os update? get out of here

if you're talking about offline back ups...... man we're not in 2009 anymore. this is why we pay RM50 a month for a family package to do real time automatic cloud back ups. imagine the time wasted everyday just to manually transfer your photos. from one place to another. you do it every week, risk of losing a week worth of photos if you lose your phone. even when you do it every week, it becomes a major hassle. can you do it religiously, non stop for 10 years?

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QUOTE(adam71 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:58 PM)
I am using Huawei ...and cloud service 1 TB is only RM84 per year.
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Sound interesting how's the experience? Is the connection and uploads reliable and fast? Privacy?
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Let me check shopee any unlimited storage icloud account
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i rather pay haha let them sort out the backup... i just use.... unless you got sexy picture inside then ownself host lo
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:48 PM)
congrats you genius. but most people value convenience. once i realize how convenient it is to use airpods (like pop up case, immediately gets connected via bluetooth), i never look at other brands anymore, despite having a cheaper price tag or better sound quality. the smooth user experience cannot be replaced. you gonna write a custom app and back up manually every day? not for me.
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the most expensive thing is :

Become a power user.


in tech era, equipe high-level software-skill is just like having superpower.

not just everything become smooth..
you even can do what average human cant even imagine.

just like becoming mutant.


this is become more and more real after the emerge of AI...
our mutant power level just tripple fold.
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I’m a strong supporter of this. Shared across 5 family members.. supporting across multiple iPhones, iPads etc. if phone hilang, I can still sleep well at night 😁

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Jun 25 2023, 09:52 PM)
Sometimes can sometimes cannot right? Or need to click “Backup now” then only can work?
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:58 PM)
kek onedrive only rm180/year with 1tb shareable to 6 different accounts and comes with microsoft office 365.
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Is Onedrive able to backup every single camera picture/video after being taken? I'm comparing this to Google One which is around RM10/month (annual plan) for 200GB.

One thing I like about Google Photos is that almost all my family members has a google account so I can easily add them to a shared family folder for all the pictures/videos

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:50 PM)
wow, didnt expect my simple 1 line reply can trigger hardcore apple sheeps so much until write an essay to counter me bck laugh.gif

feeling so insecure huh? yaya you very smart i get it whistling.gif

btw im not gonna pay close to a thousand of ringgit a year to sync data across my phone, laptops, tablets etc, there are many free alternatives out there whistling.gif , but well i guess apple users are rich so they wouldnt mind paying so much for convenience whistling.gif , and also they seems to be short on EQ also laugh.gif
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You sure are short on IQ. It’s rm40 a month for 2TB and that’s rm480 a year.

That’s not even half of a thousand but somehow it’s “close to a thousand”. I called your response dumb because you oversimplified everything, and you said I lack EQ and triggered instead.

You’re the one with low EQ and IQ.

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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 25 2023, 10:19 PM)
I’m a strong supporter of this. Shared across 5 family members.. supporting across multiple iPhones, iPads etc. if phone hilang, I can still sleep well at night 😁

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I love the convenience of cloud storage as well but really I take so many 4k videos and they take a ton of space which I think 2TB will be full in a few years time. I'm on Android btw
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 25 2023, 10:18 PM)
the most expensive thing is :

Become a power user.
in tech era, equipe high-level software-skill is just like having superpower.

not just everything become smooth..
you even can do what average human cant even imagine.

just like becoming mutant.
this is become more and more real after the emerge of AI...
our mutant power level just tripple fold.
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i'm a programmer i agree with you. now with chatgpt i code a lot faster than before. but you don't create everything yourself la.. the backup app is very complicated. you have to deal with schedules (cron?), conflicts, compression, different file types, then encryption, haven't even go into maintenance and debugging.. walao. I'd just pay USD10 a month and get a piece of mind. its USD3.33 per person when it's shared with 3 family members.

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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 10:48 PM)
i'm a programmer i agree with you. now with chatgpt i code a lot faster than before. but you don't create everything yourself la.. the backup app is very complicated. you have to deal with schedules (cron?), conflicts, compression, different file types, then encryption, haven't even go into maintenance and debugging.. walao. I'd just pay USD10 a month and get a piece of mind. its USD3.33 per person when it's shared with 3 family members.
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USD is American region pricing. It’s RM40 a month in Malaysia actually.

Can consider AppleOne subscription too because it comes with Apple Music (can switch from Spotify or YM. The bundle is pretty bang for buck.

I personally don’t like AM UI so I stick with just iCloud plan.
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jun 25 2023, 10:51 PM)
USD is American region pricing. It’s RM40 a month in Malaysia actually.

Can consider AppleOne subscription too because it comes with Apple Music (can switch from Spotify or YM. The bundle is pretty bang for buck.

I personally don’t like AM UI so I stick with just iCloud plan.
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wow. apple one is RM78.9 / month. i didn't know. for RM40 more you get apple music + apple tv. i also wouldn't get it cos entertainment is non essential. real time back up is essential for me. the peace of mind is priceless. i don't worry about losing my phone anymore. just get a new one and you're good to go. at most lose a few thousand riggits. and I'd get the one with the lowest memory.
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Instead of paying rm600/year for Icloud storage like a sheep, this is what i do.
1. Buy a SSD.
2. Purchase Photo Transfer App at price of RM80 (lifetime subscription).
3. Whenever my storage is full (256 gb phone storage can last me for 2-3 years), I just need to transfer the photos & videos to SSD. No need to do this regularly, just once every few years.

There you, save yourself thousands of RM.
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QUOTE(Avenger_2012 @ Jun 25 2023, 10:59 PM)
Instead of paying rm600/year for Icloud storage like a sheep, this is what i do.
1. Buy a SSD.
2. Purchase Photo Transfer App at price of RM80 (lifetime subscription).
3. Whenever my storage is full (256 gb phone storage can last me for 2-3 years), I just need to transfer the photos & videos to SSD. No need to do this regularly, just once every few years.

There you, save yourself thousands of RM.
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what if you lose your phone? 2-3 years back up once means the last 2-3 years data gone. memories can't get back anymore even with all the $$ in the world.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 10:48 PM)
i'm a programmer i agree with you. now with chatgpt i code a lot faster than before. but you don't create everything yourself la.. the backup app is very complicated. you have to deal with schedules (cron?), conflicts, compression, different file types, then encryption, haven't even go into maintenance and debugging.. walao. I'd just pay USD10 a month and get a piece of mind. its USD3.33 per person when it's shared with 3 family members.
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icloud if not the worst cloud among the big cloud.


previously iphone user

give up for its discriminative Windows support
( itune, icloud on windows are just an insult to us as user)

but Google drive app work in iPhone..
at 1/10 price.
and Google Drive is so much more better than iCloud.

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QUOTE(Avenger_2012 @ Jun 25 2023, 10:59 PM)
Instead of paying rm600/year for Icloud storage like a sheep, this is what i do.
1. Buy a SSD.
2. Purchase Photo Transfer App at price of RM80 (lifetime subscription).
3. Whenever my storage is full (256 gb phone storage can last me for 2-3 years), I just need to transfer the photos & videos to SSD. No need to do this regularly, just once every few years.

There you, save yourself thousands of RM.
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Feels like this response just shows you don’t know what iCloud and Google Cloud offers and how it’s vastly different from what you’ve described
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park since i want to share subs to my wife's 2tb account
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 11:01 PM)
what if you lose your phone? 2-3 years back up once means the last 2-3 years data gone. memories can't get back anymore even with all the $$ in the world.
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The good memorable ones will be up on FB or IG already. Even if I save all the photos for the past few years, I had never look back at the photos. There’s literally tens of thousands of photos. Never bother.
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QUOTE(Avenger_2012 @ Jun 25 2023, 11:14 PM)
The good memorable ones will be up on FB or IG already. Even if I save all the photos for the past few years, I had never look back at the photos. There’s literally tens of thousands of photos. Never bother.
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different folks different strokes. i have a kid i look after and I wouldn't even wanna lose 1 sec of any footage. now she is 6 years old i regret not taking more videos when she was younger.
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jun 25 2023, 11:03 PM)
Feels like this response just shows you don’t know what iCloud and Google Cloud offers and how it’s vastly different from what you’ve described
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The worth of a service is very much dependent on its perceived value.
I don’t think it’s worth paying the money for convenience and auto cloud storage.
Just because I don’t think it’s worth doesn’t mean I don’t understand what it offers.

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QUOTE(Avenger_2012 @ Jun 25 2023, 11:20 PM)
The worth of a service is very much dependent on its perceived value.
I don’t think it’s worth paying the money for convenience and auto cloud storage.
Just because I don’t think it’s worth doesn’t mean I don’t understand what it offers.
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Very good point
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Ayam old fashioned. For me;
1. the cloud = someone else’s computer
2. ecosystem = vendor lock-in

Prefer platform-agnostic open source solutions. Got a RaspberryPi-FreeNAS-Nextcloud instance running for personal stuff, with some added Cryptomator encryption for the important shit. Takes a few more steps, but nothing a simple iOS/iPadOS Shortcut or Linux cron job can’t sort out.

EdiT: I do use cloud storage for my company - Tresorit business account - mainly for the collab options.

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Already people compared and surveyed that MS 365's yearly RM350++ is the most worth it compared to all other providers out there.

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 25 2023, 07:42 PM)
That’s 50 ringgit every month, means 600 ringgit per year subscription.
I would think it is expensive.
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Jun 25 2023, 09:52 PM)
Sometimes can sometimes cannot right? Or need to click “Backup now” then only can work?
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tried all the methods from internet, none work
so just start from scratch at the new phone.

QUOTE(Ayer @ Jun 25 2023, 09:56 PM)
This one Whatsapp problem, I tried restore backup from GDrive last time also like corrupt file. Total lost smh
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maybe.
so now i am left with empty chats.
chats and groups still there, just empty.

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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:37 PM)
i don't understand why people keep complaining phone storage not enough. dO YoU GuYs NoT hAve ClOuD SToRaGe?

i keep all my shit on my shitty 2021 128gb iphone with 2TB family icloud subscription (USD9.99 a month). every photo gets uploaded immediately. I never run of of space despite having thousands of full res videos.

and I never worry about losing my phone. if I did lose it, a restored iphone with all my data is in my hand within 2 hours.
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Uncle agreed with you
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QUOTE(kmrdeva @ Jun 25 2023, 07:49 PM)
Even with 200GB iCloud and 1TB OneDrive I still need a 256gb phone at least. For my offline music and videos.
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No need keep offline bah.
Uncle also know use stream….
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Idk why some grandfathers on here dont use cloud storage. I’ve literally read 4-5 comments on older threads of people saying they dont use cloud or dont trust cloud storage LOL who tf is interested in looking at your oldman selfies and porn history?
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 25 2023, 08:16 PM)
2tb for 10usd is expensive la ts.
2tb ssd are now around 73usd already.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10050054383...id=zwZeH7tcgj5o
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Actually back up in external hardisk is very dangerous move…uncle not recommend
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QUOTE(13th @ Jun 25 2023, 08:06 PM)
kek.  the Fappening icloud hack anyone?
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:51 PM)
2TB storage let say SSD about RM300-500 one time.
With cloud storage 2TB is RM45 per month or RM540 per annum.

Let say you use for next 30 years, you will spend RM16k for subscription.
Meanwhile the physical storage you bought still RM300-500 (let say with lifespan of 10 years for physical storage), so RM500*3=RM1500.

So in 30 years, total cost for cloud storage is 10x higher.

Also note that physical storage /GB is cheaper over time but cloud storage service does not drop price over time (in fact may increase).
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iCloud expands all apple devices storage, including uncle mac and iphone ipad…

Storage in external ssd is dangerous, as the data do not have property locked from access…anybody can pick up your ssd and read the data inside
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QUOTE(knives. @ Jun 26 2023, 12:31 AM)
Idk why some grandfathers on here dont use cloud storage. I’ve literally read 4-5 comments on older threads of people saying they dont use cloud or dont trust cloud storage LOL who tf is interested in looking at your oldman selfies and porn history?
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Very normal.

Uncle also don’t understand how icloud works before this

Until uncle children teach uncle…

Then uncle start to experience the magic and hassle/worry-free storage….

Now uncle everyday study about it
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QUOTE(knives. @ Jun 26 2023, 12:31 AM)
Idk why some grandfathers on here dont use cloud storage. I’ve literally read 4-5 comments on older threads of people saying they dont use cloud or dont trust cloud storage LOL who tf is interested in looking at your oldman selfies and porn history?
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Malaysians still very much old mindset about subscriptions…in most if their mind, they only see money as the buggest value…

So they miss out a lot
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 25 2023, 10:22 PM)
Is Onedrive able to backup every single camera picture/video after being taken? I'm comparing this to Google One which is around RM10/month (annual plan) for 200GB.

One thing I like about Google Photos is that almost all my family members has a google account so I can easily add them to a shared family folder for all the pictures/videos
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 25 2023, 10:19 PM)
I’m a strong supporter of this. Shared across 5 family members.. supporting across multiple iPhones, iPads etc. if phone hilang, I can still sleep well at night 😁

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Uncle also using 2TB and uncle love the photo storage function
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i didnt, if you know how to do all the technical stuffs and save some money why not? but if u dun know, then pay for the convenience la, did i say your approach sucks? lol
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:50 PM)
wow, didnt expect my simple 1 line reply can trigger hardcore apple sheeps so much until write an essay to counter me bck laugh.gif

feeling so insecure huh? yaya you very smart i get it whistling.gif

btw im not gonna pay close to a thousand of ringgit a year to sync data across my phone, laptops, tablets etc, there are many free alternatives out there whistling.gif , but well i guess apple users are rich so they wouldnt mind paying so much for convenience whistling.gif , and also they seems to be short on EQ also laugh.gif
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:51 PM)
2TB storage let say SSD about RM300-500 one time.
With cloud storage 2TB is RM45 per month or RM540 per annum.

Let say you use for next 30 years, you will spend RM16k for subscription.
Meanwhile the physical storage you bought still RM300-500 (let say with lifespan of 10 years for physical storage), so RM500*3=RM1500.

So in 30 years, total cost for cloud storage is 10x higher.

Also note that physical storage /GB is cheaper over time but cloud storage service does not drop price over time (in fact may increase).
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 10:09 PM)
talk cock lah you. even the cheapest centOS server from vultr is USD2.5 a month. don't tell me it'll be cheaper if you host your own server using your home unifi.

then you gonna write the app that can sync with your own server without bugs? like as good as the native app? backup every new photo the instance you take it that kind of good. and deal with the maintenance whenever there is an os update? get out of here

if you're talking about offline back ups...... man we're not in 2009 anymore. this is why we pay RM50 a month for a family package to do real time automatic cloud back ups. imagine the time wasted everyday just to manually transfer your photos. from one place to another. you do it every week, risk of losing a week worth of photos if you lose your phone. even when you do it every week, it becomes a major hassle. can you do it religiously, non stop for 10 years?
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QUOTE(Avenger_2012 @ Jun 25 2023, 10:59 PM)
Instead of paying rm600/year for Icloud storage like a sheep, this is what i do.
1. Buy a SSD.
2. Purchase Photo Transfer App at price of RM80 (lifetime subscription).
3. Whenever my storage is full (256 gb phone storage can last me for 2-3 years), I just need to transfer the photos & videos to SSD. No need to do this regularly, just once every few years.

There you, save yourself thousands of RM.
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Frankly, I don't get why you are all arguing with each other. Each of you are right, and at the same time all also wrong together.

If money is an issue, go with whatever cheapest back up works for your needs. If you got money to spend, then go with whatever is most convenient for you to keep your data backed up.

However, going only 1 approach is often the stupidest thing you can do. The right thing to do is to have multiple back ups. If you back up to iCloud, you should also have it set up so its mirrored to be saved locally to a harddrive or another cloud provider.

The cloud should never be your primary fall back, you should always have a local copy with you.

Remember the adage of survival planning. Three is two, two is one and one is none. Always expect one of your avenues to fail.

QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jun 25 2023, 08:00 PM)
No wonder people like TS is sheeples. What's next? Buy a Mercedes and pay for vroom vroom subs to drive past 120km/j instead of a potong zakar that can anytime tapow 150kmj?
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Subscription makes sense for some things.

Like cloud storage, as it costs money to maintain the infrastructure. Storing in a stable cloud provider/company also gives peace of mind. Their infrastructure is robust and already have all the hardware failovers built into the cost. You don't have to worry about it at all.

Sure some here can roll out their own solution, but it will be prone to error/disaster. I've had hard drives suddenly stop working and nearly lost hundreds of gigabytes of memories, but luckily I have it backed up in multiple places. Took me some time to convince my wife that a bunch of portable hard drives is NOT a long term back up solution.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 25 2023, 08:34 PM)
Sorry wont be taking advise from someone appointed by his own mum to keep rm100k in fd as her safekeeper.

Yinstead go blew it on a stock market and lose 40% of it lmao

Totally not a trustable person at all teda moral punya worank

Puikk!!
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Took me some time to convince my wife that a bunch of portable hard drives is NOT a long term back up solution.
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LOL, actually I had a bunch of portable hard disks with Syncthing for many years. Three copies in two different houses. Finally switched to Onedrive a few years back. Pricing wise similar, I still needed to replace hard disks regularly when I rolled my own sync solution. Not factoring in hardware or electricity. It was the convenience and Google ending their unlimited photos that decided it for me.
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not always an option because cloud needs internet connection to work. especially when you travel and take lots of pics and vids, how to upload gigs of data using travel sim with very limited quota? hotel wifi also not always stable and fast enough for high res, large uploads. i ended up bringing my spare phone and use airdrop for backup.
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not always an option because cloud needs internet connection to work. especially when you travel and take lots of pics and vids, how to upload gigs of data using travel sim with very limited quota? hotel wifi also not always stable and fast enough for high res, large uploads. i ended up bringing my spare phone and use airdrop for backup.
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Frankly, I don't get why you are all arguing with each other. Each of you are right, and at the same time all also wrong together.

If money is an issue, go with whatever cheapest back up works for your needs. If you got money to spend, then go with whatever is most convenient for you to keep your data backed up.

However, going only 1 approach is often the stupidest thing you can do. The right thing to do is to have multiple back ups. If you back up to iCloud, you should also have it set up so its mirrored to be saved locally to a harddrive or another cloud provider.

The cloud should never be your primary fall back, you should always have a local copy with you.

Remember the adage of survival planning. Three is two, two is one and one is none. Always expect one of your avenues to fail.
Subscription makes sense for some things.

Like cloud storage, as it costs money to maintain the infrastructure. Storing in a stable cloud provider/company also gives peace of mind. Their infrastructure is robust and already have all the hardware failovers built into the cost. You don't have to worry about it at all.

Sure some here can roll out their own solution, but it will be prone to error/disaster. I've had hard drives suddenly stop working and nearly lost hundreds of gigabytes of memories, but luckily I have it backed up in multiple places. Took me some time to convince my wife that a bunch of portable hard drives is NOT a long term back up solution.
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Yes and no.

It is no longer like pc time or back up like pc

Use icloud storage is the step one;

More back up? Maybe use One Drive to some…


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kek.  the Fappening icloud hack anyone?
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 01:46 AM)
Yes and no.

It is no longer like pc time or back up like pc

Use icloud storage is the step one;

More back up? Maybe use One Drive to some…
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just get 10tb hdd...
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:33 AM)
Actually back up in external hardisk is very dangerous move…uncle not recommend
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lame advise. storage is cheap, you can put your so called 'important data' on as many storage as possible.
guess what, i still have my hdd from year 2009, it still working. i doubt that your so called 'important data' is in terabyte in space, unless we are talking about rare classic porn.
also flash storage are known to be more reliable as it more immune to dusts (storage media doesn't need to be fully sealed). problem is it just most people dont have good backup strategy, myself too but what the hell, i dont have important personal data anyway.

i dont say cloud storage is bad, it just the pricing is bad. rm8.50/month for 100gb of space? come on.

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I use icloud to backup the most essential files excluding photos & videos. Subscribe 50GB for rm 3.90. Photos and videos are backup offline with hard disk backup. I use Google Photos as a secondary online backup for photos and videos.

Therefore no need to pay that much.


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change to iphone and all your problems go away.
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Like what silverhawk mentioned, there isn’t one approach for now and ever

One of the best iCloud feature is to help your non-tech savvy family especially your parent or wife who doesn’t know any of it and help to back it up and restore when needed

Myself still have a offline SSD to backup all the cloud storage, as you never know when incident will come

Just have look for the pros and cons and decide for yourself
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iCloud is really quite premium.
If you can afford it, sure…

But I wouldn’t say the convenience of it is worth Rm480 a year.

The only time I feel iCloud is convenient is when you lose your phone and you want to restore it on another phone… which given my track record, I’m quite confident to say I don’t really need that.

Photos/videos stored in my phone aren’t that important for me. Not worth Rm480 a year to safeguard.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 03:59 AM)
lame advise. storage is cheap, you can put your so called 'important data' on as many storage as possible.
guess what, i still have my hdd from year 2009, it still working. i doubt that your so called 'important data' is in terabyte in space, unless we are talking about rare classic porn.
also flash storage are known to be more reliable as it more immune to dusts (storage media doesn't need to be fully sealed). problem is it just most people dont have good backup strategy, myself too but what the hell, i dont have important personal data anyway.

i dont say cloud storage is bad, it just the pricing is bad. rm8.50/month for 100gb of space? come on.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:20 PM)
10 years? I think maybe you back up not huge.
If huge….transfer data will cry
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its a 1tb disk and it have been copied over another 2 hard disk as backups(offline). 2 backup enough for me.
i ordered 4tb ssd from aliexpress to be a backup for another hard disk lol, damn i should buy more lel laugh.gif

not to say all is good, previously i have another 1tb hard disk that is ridden with bad sectors (bit-rot probably), anyway is all video, can still play the video, just few seconds of the video is corrupted, transfer all the files to another hard disk, make a backup of it and i just done with it. anyway nearly all the content of the disk are pirated content, if all files is lost, i can still grab it from the cloudinternet anyway.

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Yeah i've been on iCloud for the past 8 years. All my stuff instantly available across my devices. 200GB plan now going to full soon need to up to 2TB plan.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 12:25 PM)
its a 1tb disk and it have been copied over another 2 hard disk as backups(offline). 2 backup enough for me.
i ordered 4tb ssd from aliexpress to be a backup for another hard disk lol, damn i should buy more lel  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(krishtiano86 @ Jun 26 2023, 12:30 PM)
Yeah i've been on iCloud for the past 8 years. All my stuff instantly available across my devices. 200GB plan now going to full soon need to up to 2TB plan.
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No rush to upgrade now, only when you finished the 200GB then only buy more. They will return the balance to you too.
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QUOTE(krishtiano86 @ Jun 26 2023, 12:30 PM)
Yeah i've been on iCloud for the past 8 years. All my stuff instantly available across my devices. 200GB plan now going to full soon need to up to 2TB plan.
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Ya, we pay for the services.

I also subscribe iCloud 200gb to share with my mum, so now all her stuff backup to iCloud.
Price of 1 starbuck every month only.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:31 PM)
All these is working file?
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last two month i did a round of disk check. looks good. maybe if i did a test today,it will show bad sectors, but who cares. laugh.gif

anyway the idea if your data is important, make as many backups as possible, cloud, offline backup of any media and online storage. it doesn't matter. some people i see too trusted on their devices, they dont make any sort of backup.

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address book, email, go with Google account.

photos, just sign up rm134 per year for 200gb of google photo..

once a while, delete those photo on your phone to make space for new photos..

that's it...
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 12:36 PM)
last two month i did a round of disk check. looks good. maybe if i did a test today,it will show bad sectors, but who cares.  laugh.gif

anyway the idea if your data is important, make as many backups as possible, cloud, offline backup of any media and online storage. it doesn't matter. some people i see too trusted on their devices, they dont make any sort of backup.
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I means what data so important for you to back up?
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i dont have any lol. so i dont care. laugh.gif
im not a nostalgic guy anyway.
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address book, email, go with Google account.

photos, just sign up rm134 per year for 200gb of google photo..

once a while, delete those photo on your phone to make space for new photos..

that's it...
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Google is good for file back up, from your pc to google drive etc.

But for photo…google photo is not the best…better use iPhone photo to manage your pictures

And yet, even you pay for google drive/photo, google still claim the right of use your photo.
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i dont have any lol. so i dont care.  laugh.gif
im not a nostalgic guy anyway.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 03:59 AM)
lame advise. storage is cheap, you can put your so called 'important data' on as many storage as possible.
guess what, i still have my hdd from year 2009, it still working. i doubt that your so called 'important data' is in terabyte in space, unless we are talking about rare classic porn.
also flash storage are known to be more reliable as it more immune to dusts (storage media doesn't need to be fully sealed). problem is it just most people dont have good backup strategy, myself too but what the hell, i dont have important personal data anyway.

i dont say cloud storage is bad, it just the pricing is bad. rm8.50/month for 100gb of space? come on.
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The pricing is actually pretty competitive nowadays. The hard disks don't last forever, you still need to change them every 2-3 years. Plus electricity and the convenience, it will come out to roughly the same number.

RM8.50/month is a bit expensive can look for cheaper ones. But here is the math.
RM8.50 per month works out to RM102 per year or RM210 every two years for a 100 gb.

A new 1 TB portable hard disk is ~RM200. Assuming you have a backup and you change the disk once every 2 years.
That's RM200 every year for changing your hard disk and it's backup copy. 1 TB.
Not inclusive electricity, hardware, hassle etc. The only real advantage is privacy.

Disclaimer: I switched to cloud from self hosted 2-3 years back.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:42 PM)
Google is good for file back up, from your pc to google drive etc.

But for photo…google photo is not the best…better use iPhone photo to manage your pictures

And yet, even you pay for google drive/photo, google still claim the right of use your photo.
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this is why i dont go for cloud route especially google wan, each file uploaded will have a checksum, if the checksum matched with DMCA claimed files, good luck accessing those files lol.
even non-p2p pirates nowadays utilizing google storage, it is just the cheapest way to host files.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 12:47 PM)
this is why i dont go for cloud route especially google wan, each file uploaded will have a checksum, if the checksum matched with DMCA claimed files, good luck accessing those files lol.
even non-p2p pirates nowadays utilizing google storage, it is just the cheapest way to host files.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 12:46 PM)
The pricing is actually pretty competitive nowadays. The hard disks don't last forever, you still need to change them every 2-3 years. Plus electricity and the convenience, it will come out to roughly the same number.

RM8.50/month is a bit expensive can look for cheaper ones. But here is the math.
RM8.50 per month works out to RM102 per year or RM210 every two years for a 100 gb.

A new 1 TB portable hard disk is ~RM200. Assuming you have a backup and you change the disk once every 2 years.
That's RM200 every year for changing your hard disk and it's backup copy. 1 TB.
Not inclusive electricity, hardware, hassle etc. The only real advantage is privacy.

Disclaimer: I switched to cloud from self hosted 2-3 years back.
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When the hdd broken, u do not know whether u should just throw it…or fix it…

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:50 PM)
When the hdd broken, u do not know whether u should just throw it…or fix it…
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Normally I changed every 2-3 years, regardless of the condition of the hard disks. 3 hard disks, so 1 new one every year. I rarely waited until it failed. It was a sort of central storage for the whole family.

I just formatted the old one and used it for storing movies on my NAS or passed it to my kids.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 01:00 PM)
Normally I changed every 2-3 years, regardless of the condition of the hard disks. 3 hard disks, so 1 new one every year. I rarely waited until it failed. It was a sort of central storage for the whole family.

I just formatted the old one and used it for storing movies on my NAS or passed it to my kids.
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This is make more sense….
Uncle was doing the same like your way in previously
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 12:46 PM)
The pricing is actually pretty competitive nowadays. The hard disks don't last forever, you still need to change them every 2-3 years. Plus electricity and the convenience, it will come out to roughly the same number.

RM8.50/month is a bit expensive can look for cheaper ones. But here is the math.
RM8.50 per month works out to RM102 per year or RM210 every two years for a 100 gb.

A new 1 TB portable hard disk is ~RM200. Assuming you have a backup and you change the disk once every 2 years.
That's RM200 every year for changing your hard disk and it's backup copy. 1 TB.
Not inclusive electricity, hardware, hassle etc. The only real advantage is privacy.

Disclaimer: I switched to cloud from self hosted 2-3 years back.
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why i need to account electricity when my mass storage/backups are offline? also in this modern age, you are not limited to HDD, you have flash storage for cheap now. if manufacturer willing to give 5 years warranty, it mean that devices can lasts that long most of the time, you dont need to retire that in 1/2 years. you see backblaze report, they are having hdd that was used for close to 8 years, offline media can lasts even longer as long the disk cover remain fully sealed.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-dr...ts-for-q1-2023/

anyway my important documents are less than 1GB honestly, i just used my free google storage for those. but if i want to have a backup of my not important files, i need at least 10TB, google want rm200/monthly for those? it will be hard time for me to consider. smile.gif

anyway cloud storage are not meant for everyone, i feel it is expensive because i hardly utilize it.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:48 PM)
It sounds like u kaki porn
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data is just 0s and 1s, who care its porn or something else.
porn videos can have sentimental value to someone.

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data is just 0s and 1s, who care its porn or something else.
porn videos can have sentimental value to someone.
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You are contradicting yourself. Btw, please dun tipu here, dun make LYN become FB all scammers.

Uncle know u like u talk big and talk cock…please go away.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 01:16 PM)
why i need to account electricity when my mass storage/backups are offline? also in this modern age, you are not limited to HDD, you have flash storage for cheap now. if manufacturer willing to give 5 years warranty, it mean that devices can lasts that long most of the time, you dont need to retire that in 1/2 years. you see backblaze report, they are having hdd that was used for close to 8 years, offline media can lasts even longer as long the disk cover remain fully sealed.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-dr...ts-for-q1-2023/

anyway my important documents are less than 1GB honestly, i just used my free google storage for those. but if i want to have a backup of my not important files, i need at least 10TB, google want rm200/monthly for those? it will be hard time for me to consider.  smile.gif

anyway cloud storage are not meant for everyone, i feel it is expensive because i hardly utilize it.
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You don’t have kids to take photos or videos that will eat up space. 10 mins video is close to 1gb already I think. If you don’t have real time automatic back up, you’re prone to losing weeks or months of contents. Phones get lost, water damaged, stolen.. and in my case, just died without a warning after 6 years. But thanks to iCloud, I did not lose anything. I got a cheap phone and have my phone restored exactly like it was 2 hours ago in minutes

Some people say they back up off line like once every week. Really? Can you do it religiously every week? People get busy and forget to do routine things like this. Paying a bit for cloud storage means we can take one thing off our mind and make life easier.

Anyway your files not important. Lose also never mind. Sure. But our stuff are invaluable memories.

My point is I don’t understand why people complain shit like 256gb phone is nOt EnOugHt memory. Like the better way is to store things in the cloud and not have everything offline

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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:48 PM)
congrats you genius. but most people value convenience. once i realize how convenient it is to use airpods (like pop up case, immediately gets connected via bluetooth), i never look at other brands anymore, despite having a cheaper price tag or better sound quality. the smooth user experience cannot be replaced. you gonna write a custom app and back up manually every day? not for me.
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i tried icloud

not convenient since u need to download to view full size,means u at the mercy internet connection if you're outside, recently digi very cb also
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You are contradicting yourself. Btw, please dun tipu here, dun make LYN become FB all scammers.

Uncle know u like u talk big and talk cock…please go away.
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contradicting what? all i said were if your data is important, makes as many backup as possible. if porn video is important to you, then do it.
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Interesting discussion. I recently bought two SanDisk SSD 1TB at RM600 each from Shopee Official San Disk store.
Keep all important backups. One SSD keep at home and one SSD keep at my parents home.
Like they said: don't keep all eggs in one basket.
These SSDs are also password protected.
I prefer this method of storage.

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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 26 2023, 01:24 PM)
You don’t have kids to take photos or videos that will eat up space. 10 mins video is close to 1gb already I think. If you don’t have real time automatic back up, you’re prone to losing weeks or months of contents. Phones get lost, water damaged, stolen.. and in my case, just died without a warning after 6 years. But thanks to iCloud, I did not lose anything. I got a cheap phone and have my phone restored exactly like it was 2 hours ago in minutes

Some people say they back up off line like once every week. Really? Can you do it religiously every week? People get busy and forget to do routine things like this. Paying a bit for cloud storage means we can take one thing off our mind and make life easier.

Anyway your files not important. Lose also never mind. Sure. But our stuff are invaluable memories.
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i tried icloud

not convenient since u need to download to view full size,means u at the mercy internet connection if you're outside, recently digi very cb also
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 12:46 PM)
The pricing is actually pretty competitive nowadays. The hard disks don't last forever, you still need to change them every 2-3 years. Plus electricity and the convenience, it will come out to roughly the same number.

RM8.50/month is a bit expensive can look for cheaper ones. But here is the math.
RM8.50 per month works out to RM102 per year or RM210 every two years for a 100 gb.

A new 1 TB portable hard disk is ~RM200. Assuming you have a backup and you change the disk once every 2 years.
That's RM200 every year for changing your hard disk and it's backup copy. 1 TB.
Not inclusive electricity, hardware, hassle etc. The only real advantage is privacy.

Disclaimer: I switched to cloud from self hosted 2-3 years back.
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when was the last time u bought hdd bro?

for <rm200 u can get 2TB HDD already. or 1GB SSD

i have been using samsung evo 850 ssd for the past 7 years still gooding

this one primarily for back up purposes

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QUOTE(Relaxing work 2 @ Jun 26 2023, 01:28 PM)
Interesting discussion. I recently bought two SanDisk SSD 1TB at RM600 each from Shopee Official San Disk store.
Keep all important backups. One SSD keep at home and one SSD keep at my parents home.
Like they said: don't keep all eggs in one basket.
These SSDs are also password protected.
I prefer this method of storage.
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but why? you can just buy nvme enclosure and pcie3.0 nvme disk(slow but cheap) from reputable companies.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 26 2023, 01:32 PM)
when was the last time u bought hdd bro?

for <rm200 u can get 2TB HDD already. or 1GB SSD

i have been using samsung evo 850 ssd for the past 7 years still gooding

this one primarily for back up purposes
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Donno, >3 years back? Back then when Google gave out unlimited photo storage, we kept all our photos on it. Then when Google taketh it away, I went shopping around and settled on Onedrive.

And since Onedrive came with it's own storage, my little server saw less and less use, so I gradually retired the whole thing.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 26 2023, 01:24 PM)
You don’t have kids to take photos or videos that will eat up space. 10 mins video is close to 1gb already I think. If you don’t have real time automatic back up, you’re prone to losing weeks or months of contents. Phones get lost, water damaged, stolen.. and in my case, just died without a warning after 6 years. But thanks to iCloud, I did not lose anything. I got a cheap phone and have my phone restored exactly like it was 2 hours ago in minutes

Some people say they back up off line like once every week. Really? Can you do it religiously every week? People get busy and forget to do routine things like this. Paying a bit for cloud storage means we can take one thing off our mind and make life easier.

Anyway your files not important. Lose also never mind. Sure. But our stuff are invaluable memories.

My point is I don’t understand why people complain shit like 256gb phone is nOt EnOugHt memory. Like the better way is to store things in the cloud and not have everything offline
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Yes, when I set up my server many years back, I learned that for personal use, manual backups are ok, but if I expect others (my family) to use it, it must be near effortless.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 26 2023, 01:32 PM)
when was the last time u bought hdd bro?

for <rm200 u can get 2TB HDD already. or 1GB SSD

i have been using samsung evo 850 ssd for the past 7 years still gooding

this one primarily for back up purposes
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year 2023 and people keep talking about HDD. 4TB SSD can be lesser than rm700 already from chaina brand, i even see less than rm650 when on sales.
seagate will be a thing of the past if they cant manufactured their HAMR based HDD.
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You can always choose to keep local copy.
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local copy then it's will eat my internal storage

I don't like sync also, it will eat my battery
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 01:42 PM)
year 2023 and people keep talking about HDD. 4TB SSD can be lesser than rm700 already from chaina brand, i even see less than rm650 when on sales.
seagate will be a thing of the past if they cant manufactured their HAMR based HDD.
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once u use SSD , there is no way to go back to HDD

can see huge difference when doing back up

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-a...ves-in-mid-2023

Seagate Aims to Ship 30TB+ HAMR Hard Drives in Mid-2023

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while apple also allow to sync with onedrive, the delete photos on iphone doesnt have option to sync with delete respective backup at onedrive

abit troublesome to maintain both sides...

due to this, ayam bought icloud, really sien coz onedrive gt 1tb oledi

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local copy then it's will eat my internal storage

I don't like sync also, it will eat my battery
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 26 2023, 01:45 PM)
+1
once u use SSD , there is no way to go back to HDD

can see huge difference when doing back up

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-a...ves-in-mid-2023

Seagate Aims to Ship 30TB+ HAMR Hard Drives in Mid-2023

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never realized i will be switching to SSD for external mass-storage usage so soon. biggrin.gif
but anyway cloud storage lovers will said flash storage will rosak too, meanwhile i still have microsd that i used for r4 flashcart from year 2008 that is still working laugh.gif turn on my old ds now, oh wait it still working. i dont know where are this replacing your disk every 2-3 years came from? its true that the disk will be less reliable over time, thats why we have multiple copy of those disk on separate disk.

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never realized i will be switching to SSD for external mass-storage usage so soon.  biggrin.gif
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I mean there’s no other away regarding storage and I don’t see how it’s different from any other solutions out there.
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that's what TS was arguing about, why need more internals storage when u can get subscription clouds

and i state the downside of it

should just buy minimum 256gb and called it a day, it's just comfortable enough
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 25 2023, 07:52 PM)
3.90 a month for 50gb. The cheapest storage that Apple sells.
My ipong is 128gb and it is not even half filled after almost 2 years.
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Well, your usage is totally different from TS then.

TS usage, even if get 1TB phone also not enough, 3.90 a month 50gb plan is basically negligible.
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I was not looking for a 64gb iphone, but one was offered to me at harvey norman for rm800 (display unit 12 mini) , cant say no

using the 200gb cloud for rm12 a month, been good so far
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QUOTE(Yung_Psyke @ Jun 26 2023, 02:34 PM)
I was not looking for a 64gb iphone, but one was offered to me at harvey norman for rm800 (display unit 12 mini) , cant say no

using the 200gb cloud for rm12 a month, been good so far
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Exactly. But sometimes also depending on some app size you use. If you’re a gamer, some apps cannot go onto the cloud. E.g. genshin impact’s size is like 30gb? So maybe install one or two more heavy games. Your phone is full. The OS itself also takes up like 15gb.

For me I don’t play any games so my iPad 64gb also enough.. only store some PDFs and view iCloud videos. This isn’t possible without iCloud.

But some people is like walao.. 256gb memory? Not enough.. these people sure don’t know what’s iCloud or other cloud storage

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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:46 PM)
i share with 3 family members. the alternative to insufficient memory is buying a large phone but it's not safe (lose your phone, lose your data) and also cumbersome to backup every day.

not wise also.. if you have kids and take videos everyday, 1TB phone also not enough. cloud storage basically unlimited.
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You try to kick out your kids and wife as family members in iCloud and ask them to sub themselves.
Then you will get the answer why people don't want to sub iCloud.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:42 PM)
Google is good for file back up, from your pc to google drive etc.

But for photo…google photo is not the best…better use iPhone photo to manage your pictures

And yet, even you pay for google drive/photo, google still claim the right of use your photo.
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icloud is one to one copy of your gallery...

google photo you can purge the picture from your phone while maintaining the picture on the cloud...

and I beg to differ on the ownership.. google doesn't own my photo on my google photos... same goes to icloud...


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My iCloud photos and videos 30+GB, I mirror it to my iPhone 13 and iPhone 6s (that I use as bike computer when go out cycling). Optimise mode for photos only saves thumbnail, it currently only used 200MB on my iphone6s 32GB. by viewing it the phone will download the full resolution version off the icloud. the photos are half the size of jpeg versions too since it is using another more efficient codec. Nicest thing is if I took photo with my iPhone 6s, after it sync on wifi at home my iphone 13 will have the photo too and vice versa.

My iCloud is cheap because shared across family one plan, like less than rm20 per month with shared 2TB iCloud, Apple Music app (which is I think the best catalogue and sound quality atm-you get uncompressed cd quality as well as hi res for free, Apple TV, fitness subscription, Apple Arcade all included). Accessible to pc too

But the best thing on iCloud backup is you can lose your phone and just get another iPhone, login your userid and everything will be restored exactly like your lost iPhone, down to the volume level you set for every sound settings, even custom aac sound clip ringtones you I made myself and inserted into the iPhone is restored as is.

i also forgot to mention even old ass phone like the iphone 6s, it still receives critical ios updates until now

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 01:50 PM)
never realized i will be switching to SSD for external mass-storage usage so soon.  biggrin.gif
but anyway cloud storage lovers will said flash storage will rosak too, meanwhile i still have microsd that i used for r4 flashcart from year 2008 that is still working  laugh.gif turn on my old ds now, oh wait it still working. i dont know where are this replacing your disk every 2-3 years came from? its true that the disk will be less reliable over time, thats why we have multiple copy of those disk on separate disk.
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Different level of usage. For a single user, what you describe is ok. What we had was something intended for the whole family to use. 24-7 network attached storage.

And solid state storage is not bulletproof. It is good for write once read many. Not good for constant rewrites. Again, it depends on your use case.

Not sure if mechanical hard disks are that much more reliable nowadays. Good if they are.
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QUOTE(PJng @ Jun 25 2023, 07:46 PM)
Yeah, paid for one drive, but how to setup
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Haha paid for one drive 1tb and iCloud for 200gb

Apple eco system can't work well with one drive.
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QUOTE(billy3336 @ Jun 26 2023, 02:18 PM)
that's what TS was arguing about, why need more internals storage when u can get subscription clouds

and i state the downside of it

should just buy minimum 256gb and called it a day, it's just comfortable enough
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That’s for you though. Everyone’s need differs. I’m also on family plan and some of us have exceeded the local storage.
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subscribed to one drive with 1tb, I accessed and uploaded my files with my iphone
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QUOTE(cangkui @ Jun 26 2023, 02:46 PM)
icloud is one to one copy of your gallery...

google photo you can purge the picture from your phone while maintaining the picture on the cloud...

and I beg to differ on the ownership.. google doesn't own my photo on my google photos... same goes to icloud...
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you can check google P&C statement about your photo yea....

google photo is bad because you need more steps to delete it from your google photo....with that you will continue piling up the cloud storage....

however, apple photo is much more like the lightroom.....you can manage it, export it, delete it much easier
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 03:17 PM)
Different level of usage. For a single user, what you describe is ok. What we had was something intended for the whole family to use. 24-7 network attached storage.

And solid state storage is not bulletproof. It is good for write once read many. Not good for constant rewrites. Again, it depends on your use case.

Not sure if mechanical hard disks are that much more reliable nowadays. Good if they are.
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thats your only assumption, my 512GB transcend ssd370s from year 2015 are purely used as seedbox/torrent transit storage, previously containing OS. disk health were around ~95% (lazy to check but within that figures). also what constant write are you talking about with cloud storage? you are not going to do content creation task on that cloud storage directly, most likely you need to store those content on your machine first as files before transferring to the cloud storage. can you use google drive as torrent storage, you cant right? even if you can, the latency will be way too high to write something there.
the main reason why phone manufacturer nowadays give 256gb or more storage were to allow users to be less dependence to network storage. you can always whatever auto-sync feature, but it will read/write on the device storage first.

problem with cloud storage pricing were it didnt give much flexibility, if i need to store 201GB of data, i am forced to subscribe for more expensive 2TB plan, there is nothing in the middle(500GB or 1TB plan). how about pricing for anything higher than that? yes it is convenience, but you need to pay a freaking premium for it.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 04:00 PM)
thats your only assumption, my 512GB transcend ssd370s from year 2015 are purely used as seedbox/torrent transit storage, previously containing OS. disk health were around ~95% (lazy to check but within that figures). also what constant write are you talking about with cloud storage? you are not going to do content creation task on that cloud storage directly, most likely you need to store those content on your machine first as files before transferring to the cloud storage. can you use google drive as torrent storage, you cant right? even if you can, the latency will be way too high to write something there.
the main reason why phone manufacturer nowadays give 256gb or more storage were to allow users to be less dependence to network storage. you can always whatever auto-sync feature, but it will read/write on the device storage first.

problem with cloud storage pricing were it didnt give much flexibility, if i need to store 201GB of data, i am forced to subscribe for more expensive 2TB plan, there is nothing in the middle(500GB or 1TB plan). how about pricing for anything higher than that? yes it is convenience, but you need to pay a freaking premium for it.
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unless you specifically upload big files onto the cloud storage, i use for like 10 years also my icloud storage usage haven't exceeded 50GB now. or do you take photos and videos alot everyday?

for your info, the normal codec for saving images on iphone is HEIF and 12megapixels, it ranges from 1-3MB per photo, very little. The only big size image file is ProRAW on iphone 13 pro & 14 pro, with 14 pro's 12mp proraw at ~25MB and 48mp at ~75MB. That's around the same size as RAW files captured on dlsr

plus if you need over 200GB icloud data it's more worth to get the apple one family plan at rm78.9/month and share it with other ppl. so around rm15-17 per person for sharing 2TB icloud, apple music, apple tv, apple arcade, fitness+ all in one. Other people cannot see your icloud files unless you share it out

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 04:00 PM)
thats your only assumption, my 512GB transcend ssd370s from year 2015 are purely used as seedbox/torrent transit storage, previously containing OS. disk health were around ~95% (lazy to check but within that figures). also what constant write are you talking about with cloud storage? you are not going to do content creation task on that cloud storage directly, most likely you need to store those content on your machine first as files before transferring to the cloud storage. can you use google drive as torrent storage, you cant right? even if you can, the latency will be way too high to write something there.
the main reason why phone manufacturer nowadays give 256gb or more storage were to allow users to be less dependence to network storage. you can always whatever auto-sync feature, but it will read/write on the device storage first.

problem with cloud storage pricing were it didnt give much flexibility, if i need to store 201GB of data, i am forced to subscribe for more expensive 2TB plan, there is nothing in the middle(500GB or 1TB plan). how about pricing for anything higher than that? yes it is convenience, but you need to pay a freaking premium for it.
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Normally large video files are the main culprits. That and some simulation data files. I also tried an sd card for transit storage when downloading files too. Died within a year. Write is the problem, read when you are seeding is usually ok.

Maybe not advisable to rely on disk health numbers, from my experience solid state drives die abruptly. For mechanical hard disks, you still have hope of slowly copying some files out when you see trouble signs. Not sure about new improvements nowadays.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 04:17 PM)
Normally large video files are the main culprits. That and some simulation data files. I also tried an sd card for transit storage when downloading files too. Died within a year. Write is the problem, read when you are seeding is usually ok.

Maybe not advisable to rely on disk health numbers, from my experience solid state drives die abruptly. For mechanical hard disks, you still have hope of slowly copying some files out when you see trouble signs. Not sure about new improvements nowadays.
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if alot read and write buy better quality ssd drives, you can use crystaldiskinfo to see how much data read/write total and total ssd health. Most quality ssd have manufacturer rated total data writes stated iinm
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I use Microsoft for email
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So tell me
Should I go Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive or iCloud
Or just offline storage on HDD/SSD that I just bought on Shitpee

I really headache when comes to these

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:42 PM)
Google is good for file back up, from your pc to google drive etc.

But for photo…google photo is not the best…better use iPhone photo to manage your pictures

And yet, even you pay for google drive/photo, google still claim the right of use your photo.
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ini betul. they deleted my photo before without notice.

so back to physical storage i went.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 04:17 PM)
Normally large video files are the main culprits. That and some simulation data files. I also tried an sd card for transit storage when downloading files too. Died within a year. Write is the problem, read when you are seeding is usually ok.

Maybe not advisable to rely on disk health numbers, from my experience solid state drives die abruptly. For mechanical hard disks, you still have hope of slowly copying some files out when you see trouble signs. Not sure about new improvements nowadays.
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to deal with QLC nand chip, you need to buy high storage wan. TLC nand chip are available on high-endurance sd card, that will allow more rewrite on those SDs.

if your SSD keep dying, it is mostly because of power delivery issue, are you using good power supply, do you even use AVR? we only depend on disk health for disk endurance reason (highest number of rewrite on nand sector and total nand write) not the health of electronic component (capacitors,resistors etc), the only SSD that have failed me were crucial m4, but that because of firmware issue (which is patch-able)
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QUOTE(chupapi_munyayo @ Jun 26 2023, 04:31 PM)
I use Microsoft for email
Google for maps, YouTube and Gphoto
Android phone
But MacOS

So tell me
Should I go Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive or iCloud
Or just offline storage on HDD/SSD that I just bought on Shitpee

I really headache when comes to these
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Cloud storage is most useful for sharing. If you are just looking at cross platform access to your files, I would go with Google Drive because of your android phone. There are Google Drive desktop clients for MacOS.
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QUOTE(atmosthere @ Jun 26 2023, 04:35 PM)
ini betul. they deleted my photo before without notice.

so back to physical storage i went.
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sound like their disk is corrupted lel.
are we to be believe that google will have multiple backups(hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, yearly) of our 'individual' data?
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 04:38 PM)
to deal with QLC nand chip, you need to buy high storage wan. TLC nand chip are available on high-endurance sd card, that will allow more rewrite on those SDs.

if your SSD keep dying, it is mostly because of power delivery issue, are you using good power supply, do you even use AVR? we only depend on disk health for disk endurance reason (highest number of rewrite on nand sector and total nand write) not the health of electronic component (capacitors,resistors etc), the only SSD that have failed me were crucial m4, but that because of firmware issue (which is patch-able)
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LOL, I was tinkering with linux on an android tv stick. Had a micro sd card slot. I just used a micro sd card I had lying around.

I also had SSDs die on me before. Can't remember the error message, but it was unsalvageable. Can't even access the thing. This was in the bad old days, hopefully they don't have this now.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 04:45 PM)
LOL, I was tinkering with linux on an android tv stick. Had a micro sd card slot. I just used a micro sd card I had lying around.

I also had SSDs die on me before. Can't remember the error message, but it was unsalvageable. Can't even access the thing. This was in the bad old days, hopefully they don't have this now.
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so you expect your android tv stick to do most of the writing on that sd card reliably? 5v on 1.8v card and its gone.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 04:38 PM)
Cloud storage is most useful for sharing. If you are just looking at cross platform access to your files, I would go with Google Drive because of your android phone. There are Google Drive desktop clients for MacOS.
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Meaning GDrive/Onedrive better because it can support all system?
Unlike iCloud, only Apple ecosystem

I plan to switch back ipong when my wife hand her old ipong to me and bought a new one
my siblings all using ipong+Google services like Gmail/Maps

So I guess GDrive will suit better for all of us in this case
But also probably will sacrifice the sync across iDevices
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 11:18 PM)
different folks different strokes. i have a kid i look after and I wouldn't even wanna lose 1 sec of any footage. now she is 6 years old i regret not taking more videos when she was younger.
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I feel you man. Btw I use google photos. Cheaper and handy for me.
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ayam use 2tb icloud kongsi 4 orang masih ada 1tb ngamsui
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QUOTE(chupapi_munyayo @ Jun 26 2023, 04:51 PM)
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Meaning GDrive/Onedrive better because it can support all system?
Unlike iCloud, only Apple ecosystem

I plan to switch back ipong when my wife hand her old ipong to me and bought a new one
my siblings all using ipong+Google services like Gmail/Maps

So I guess GDrive will suit better for all of us in this case
But also probably will sacrifice the sync across iDevices
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there will be restriction, onedrive for example dont like files with very long name, also it prompt me sometime the file cant be copied to onedrive for some reason.

also, apple dont have icloud app on android yet.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:30 AM)
No need keep offline bah.
Uncle also know use stream….
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Kenot. When I go for hikes and walks, I often have no network coverage at all. Stream from your butthole ka?
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Kenot. When I go for hikes and walks, I often have no network coverage at all. Stream from your butthole ka?
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hmmmm....then this is boring....you just do the same songs....

if so, only download when u go hikes lo....now coverage should be quite good....i still dun know where hike didn't have telco coverage...
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there will be restriction, onedrive for example dont like files with very long name, also it prompt me sometime the file cant be copied to onedrive for some reason.

also, apple dont have icloud app on android yet.
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really?uncle didn't know this.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 11:18 PM)
different folks different strokes. i have a kid i look after and I wouldn't even wanna lose 1 sec of any footage. now she is 6 years old i regret not taking more videos when she was younger.
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now u know.

but uncle found that the JPG picture from andriod is much bigger file size (usually 3x more) than iPhone HEIC picture....
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QUOTE(chupapi_munyayo @ Jun 26 2023, 04:51 PM)
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Meaning GDrive/Onedrive better because it can support all system?
Unlike iCloud, only Apple ecosystem

I plan to switch back ipong when my wife hand her old ipong to me and bought a new one
my siblings all using ipong+Google services like Gmail/Maps

So I guess GDrive will suit better for all of us in this case
But also probably will sacrifice the sync across iDevices
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icloud is better system to use if you are manage your photo more than file.

for email and file system, icloud have their own logic, which is a bit different from onedrive and google drive....


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unless you specifically upload big files onto the cloud storage, i use for like 10 years also my icloud storage usage haven't exceeded 50GB now. or do you take photos and videos alot everyday?

for your info, the normal codec for saving images on iphone is HEIF and 12megapixels, it ranges from 1-3MB per photo, very little. The only big size image file is ProRAW on iphone 13 pro & 14 pro, with 14 pro's 12mp proraw at ~25MB and 48mp at ~75MB. That's around the same size as RAW files captured on dlsr

plus if you need over 200GB icloud data it's more worth to get the apple one family plan at rm78.9/month and share it with other ppl. so around rm15-17 per person for sharing 2TB icloud, apple music, apple tv, apple arcade, fitness+ all in one. Other people cannot see your icloud files unless you share it out
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andriod not using HEIF.....that's why their photo usually 5MB and above
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I use Microsoft for email
Google for maps, YouTube and Gphoto
Android phone
But MacOS

So tell me
Should I go Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive or iCloud
Or just offline storage on HDD/SSD that I just bought on Shitpee

I really headache when comes to these
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buy appleone can solved/consolidates all at one go

unless you use all free now...
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ini betul. they deleted my photo before without notice.

so back to physical storage i went.
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in google p&c, they already stated they can access to your gmail and google photo.....even u are paid user....
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Cloud storage is most useful for sharing. If you are just looking at cross platform access to your files, I would go with Google Drive because of your android phone. There are Google Drive desktop clients for MacOS.
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uncle use google drive desktop clients for macOS before this....it is really nice to upload for back up......especially during covid time, uncle use a lot google photo unlimited....

but after the unlimited gone......uncle start moving to iCloud....

and now no more using google desktop etc
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QUOTE(chupapi_munyayo @ Jun 26 2023, 04:31 PM)
I use Microsoft for email
Google for maps, YouTube and Gphoto
Android phone
But MacOS

So tell me
Should I go Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive or iCloud
Or just offline storage on HDD/SSD that I just bought on Shitpee

I really headache when comes to these
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one more things -- apple shared album is foc....a bit similar like google photo unlimited...

but google photo unlimited no more la
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:07 PM)
andriod not using HEIF.....that's why their photo usually 5MB and above
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you can always enable it, it just put a note that some third party apps might not support it.
also the picture that i captured takes less than 2mb with jpg unless you are enabling high MP mode, which doesn't combine 4 pixel to one pixel.
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The nice thing about icloud is they came with build in hide my email feature and also private relay..who value privacy will appreciate this..never drop same email to any website anymore..except you stuck with subscription.but if u can pay it no worries
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you can always enable it, it just put a note that some third party apps might not support it.
also the picture that i captured takes less than 2mb with jpg unless you are enabling high MP mode, which doesn't combine 4 pixel to one pixel.
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uncle confused.....can show uncle and see? the meta
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The nice thing about icloud is they came with build in hide my email feature and also private relay..who value privacy will appreciate this..never drop same email to any website anymore..except you stuck with subscription.but if u can pay it no worries
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it is true, but when uncle travel around the world....the private relay keep on and off...because not all country support the private relay...some country use private relay will slow down the web browsing experience....especially when they need to private relay from Apple service in USA.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:20 PM)
uncle confused.....can show uncle and see? the meta
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lazy to take picture, but anyway you can read feature article.
https://source.android.com/docs/core/camera/heif
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lazy to take picture, but anyway you can read feature article.
https://source.android.com/docs/core/camera/heif
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what? this just tell andriod 10 now support for HEIC format.....means can open HEIC picture from iphone.....
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lazy to take picture, but anyway you can read feature article.
https://source.android.com/docs/core/camera/heif
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Devices running Android 10 support the HEIC compressed image format, a high efficiency video encoding (HEVC) specific brand of the high efficiency image file format (HEIF) as specified in ISO/IEC 23008-12. HEIC-encoded images offer better image quality with smaller file sizes as compared to JPEG files.

HEIC images are generated by the camera framework requesting an uncompressed image from the camera HAL and sending it to the media subsystem to be encoded by an HEIC or HEVC encoder.



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Uncle know iPhone HEIC is a better/newer format ah....but again, many andriod phone users don't know
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:30 PM)
Devices running Android 10 support the HEIC compressed image format, a high efficiency video encoding (HEVC) specific brand of the high efficiency image file format (HEIF) as specified in ISO/IEC 23008-12. HEIC-encoded images offer better image quality with smaller file sizes as compared to JPEG files.

HEIC images are generated by the camera framework requesting an uncompressed image from the camera HAL and sending it to the media subsystem to be encoded by an HEIC or HEVC encoder.
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Uncle know iPhone HEIC is a better/newer format ah....but again, many andriod phone users don't know
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nah sample. jpg not really that big to begin with, thats why people dont bother much with heic.
https://ibb.co/3sXxntb
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nah sample. jpg not really that big to begin with, thats why people dont bother much with heic.
https://ibb.co/3sXxntb
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what u doing? why u upload the picture?

just show the meta enough la....aiyo....

jpg is 3x bigger size than heic...u dobo
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nah sample. jpg not really that big to begin with, thats why people dont bother much with heic.
https://ibb.co/3sXxntb
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u link already say it:

Devices running Android 10 support the HEIC compressed image format, a high efficiency video encoding (HEVC) specific brand of the high efficiency image file format (HEIF) as specified in ISO/IEC 23008-12. HEIC-encoded images offer better image quality with smaller file sizes as compared to JPEG files.

HEIC images are generated by the camera framework requesting an uncompressed image from the camera HAL and sending it to the media subsystem to be encoded by an HEIC or HEVC encoder.
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hmmmm....then this is boring....you just do the same songs....

if so, only download when u go hikes lo....now coverage should be quite good....i still dun know where hike didn't have telco coverage...
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come to penang and you can try the 4G network coverage with me.

128GB totally not enough for me, I can only accept a phone with at least 256GB of storage.
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nah sample. jpg not really that big to begin with, thats why people dont bother much with heic.
https://ibb.co/3sXxntb
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BTW, your camera focus is very bad ya....

user posted image
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:33 PM)
what u doing? why u upload the picture?

just show the meta enough la....aiyo....

jpg is 3x bigger size than heic...u dobo
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didnt notice it was automtic convert to jpg, damn image sharing provider.
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u link already say it:

Devices running Android 10 support the HEIC compressed image format, a high efficiency video encoding (HEVC) specific brand of the high efficiency image file format (HEIF) as specified in ISO/IEC 23008-12. HEIC-encoded images offer better image quality with smaller file sizes as compared to JPEG files.

HEIC images are generated by the camera framework requesting an uncompressed image from the camera HAL and sending it to the media subsystem to be encoded by an HEIC or HEVC encoder.
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Exif version 0220? so old?
resolution 72 dpi? so low

user posted image
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:38 PM)
BTW, your camera focus is very bad ya....

user posted image
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its 7:30pm, not enough light. we are supposed to talk about heic format support, not how the image looks like
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didnt notice it was automtic convert to jpg, damn image sharing provider.
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yala....heic have smaller size compare to jpg..... jpg format will have 2-3x more bigger size
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:07 PM)
andriod not using HEIF.....that's why their photo usually 5MB and above
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Probably not by default, android 10+ can support HEIC. some need to toggle to use it, while some don't even have settings to enable saving to HEIC on the default camera app like my oppo, default camera app captures in jpg.
And also alot android are using like 48mp, on my oppo each 48mp photos are like 10MB. And funny thing is 48mp doesn't mean shiet when the 12mp iphone photos are vastly superior, sensors matters more and thats why high end android with good camera is expensive
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didnt notice it was automtic convert to jpg, damn image sharing provider.
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its 7:30pm, not enough light. we are supposed to talk about heic format support, not how the image looks like
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uncle use my children promax and took proRAW picture before....it is really amazingly great....

Btw, we are in the same page.....HEIC is better format than JPG....yet it is HEIC is smaller than JPG
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Probably not by default, android 10+ can support HEIC. some need to toggle to use it, while some don't even have settings to enable saving to HEIC on the default camera app like my oppo, default camera app captures in jpg.
And also alot android are using like 48mp, on my oppo each 48mp photos are like 10MB. And funny thing is 48mp doesn't mean shiet when the 12mp iphone photos are vastly superior, sensors matters more and thats why high end android with good camera is expensive
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many andriod user keep chasing 512GB ROM, because a few picture already stuffs their ROM up...because they still use JPG format...
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:43 PM)
TBH, uncle strongly not recommend xiaomi....overpriced and their camera is really bad
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lel talk about my choice of phone. i dont give a fark about camera la.
even if i need to take picture, it looks decent to me.
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QUOTE(kmrdeva @ Jun 26 2023, 07:37 PM)
deswai i have around 60GB of apple music lossless tracks saved for offline listening. 1 song about 40MB. can't be listening to the same songs everyday.

come to penang and you can try the 4G network coverage with me.

128GB totally not enough for me, I can only accept a phone with at least 256GB of storage.
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then no choice....you maybe can move to KL....please don't get lost in your hiking....it is dangerous
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lel talk about my choice of phone. i dont give a fark about camera la.
even if i need to take picture, it looks decent to me.
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then what you will see when u come to smart phone? uncle want hardsell u iphone bah
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:46 PM)
many andriod user keep chasing 512GB ROM, because a few picture already stuffs their ROM up...because they still use JPG format...
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why you insist that android camera output is on JPG only? whats the point i give you my screenshot?
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:48 PM)
then what you will see when u come to smart phone? uncle want hardsell u iphone bah
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value, cheap phone.

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why you insist that android camera output is on JPG only? whats the point i give you my screenshot?
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i don't know ya....as uncle recalled, andriod output is JPG by default....which many people will tell uncle....iphone no good....HEIC cannot open in my computer....bla bla bla
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value, cheap phone.
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exactly. that's what uncle say too....it is not about camera....it is about value.....and too cheap not on par with the price/spec they claimed
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:49 PM)
i don't know ya....as uncle recalled, andriod output is JPG by default....which many people will tell uncle....iphone no good....HEIC cannot open in my computer....bla bla bla
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android world care about compatibility. so whats wrong with that?
in the era of gigabit per second internet service, who the hell care about how big jpg size is. most picture format on the internet are either png or jpg (and gif too)
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:50 PM)
exactly. that's what uncle say too....it is not about camera....it is about value.....and too cheap not on par with the price/spec they claimed
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and iphone priced rm2249 are crap.
go preach to other people la if you said its iphone or nothing
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android world care about compatibility. so whats wrong with that?
in the era of gigabit per second internet service, who the hell care about how big jpg size is. most picture format on the internet are either png or jpg (and gif too)
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you're contradicting yourself....

it is okay...uncle can take it...haha
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and iphone priced rm2249 are crap.
go preach to other people la if you said its iphone or nothing
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not really....iphone value it correctly....at least you spend the money and get the value that you deserve...

xiaomi is trying to copy everything just for the sake of your money....

malaysia should ban xiaomi as they are copy cat and no respect to the original creator
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:55 PM)
you're contradicting yourself....

it is okay...uncle can take it...haha
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for the 2nd time, contradicting what?
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for the 2nd time, contradicting what?
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ur own point lo
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:56 PM)
not really....iphone value it correctly....at least you spend the money and get the value that you deserve...

xiaomi is trying to copy everything just for the sake of your money....

malaysia should ban xiaomi as they are copy cat and no respect to the original creator
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i rather cium tangan lei jun than tim cook.
even your beloved steve job said 'good artists copy, great artists steals'.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 07:57 PM)
ur own point lo
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which one, point it out?
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i rather cium tangan lei jun than tim cook.
even your beloved steve job said 'good artists copy, great artists steals'.
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which one, point it out?
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already. just u didn't admit it only.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 07:53 PM)
android world care about compatibility. so whats wrong with that?
in the era of gigabit per second internet service, who the hell care about how big jpg size is. most picture format on the internet are either png or jpg (and gif too)
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Because you are the one saying icloud 201GB need to use expensive 2TB plan, but in reality iphone 12mp HEIC photos are tiny sizes and unless intentionally capture videos everyday, people barely need to use 200GB icloud and most are fine with 50GB icloud size. You are comparing the big android photo library sizes to iphone which is not comparable at all for casual user.

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 08:00 PM)
already. just u didn't admit it only.
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Because you are the one saying icloud 201GB need to use expensive 2TB plan, but in reality iphone 12mp HEIC photos are tiny sizes and unless intentionally capture videos everyday, people barely need to use 200GB icloud and most are fine with 50GB icloud size. You are comparing the big photo library sizes to iphone which is not comparable at all for casual user.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 26 2023, 07:42 PM)
Probably not by default, android 10+ can support HEIC. some need to toggle to use it, while some don't even have settings to enable saving to HEIC on the default camera app like my oppo, default camera app captures in jpg.
And also alot android are using like 48mp, on my oppo each 48mp photos are like 10MB. And funny thing is 48mp doesn't mean shiet when the 12mp iphone photos are vastly superior, sensors matters more and thats why high end android with good camera is expensive
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Because HEIC required license and that's why it is not as popular. Hope JPEG XL will catch up soon.
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then no choice....you maybe can move to KL....please don't get lost in your hiking....it is dangerous
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TS fail unker logic. it's cheaper to get a 256GB phone and store music and maps offline than to uproot the whole family and move to KL.
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TS fail unker logic. it's cheaper to get a 256GB phone and store music and maps offline than to uproot the whole family and move to KL.
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Because HEIC required license and that's why it is not as popular. Hope JPEG XL will catch up soon.
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i see....uncle don't know that
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u forget move to KL can get higher salary
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thanks for being kind to him
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yeah and by saying need to sub rm40/month for 2TB plan is like kinda wasteful in his intentions. In reality you can sub apple one 200GB plan at rm40/month and then add rm3.9/month to add 50GB to have a total of 250GB, so for rm44 you get 250GB icloud size, apple music, apple tv, apple arcade in one go, way more value.

but biggest value is to share the apple one family 2TB plan, share it out, more ppl the cheaper. i pay less than rm20 per month to share 2TB icloud size... while getting apple music (way better than spotify tbh), apple tv, apple arcade, fitness+)
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 26 2023, 08:00 PM)
Because you are the one saying icloud 201GB need to use 2TB plan, but in reality iphone 12mp HEIC photos are tiny sizes and unless intentionally capture videos everyday, people barely need to use 200GB icloud and most are fine with 50GB icloud size. You are comparing the big photo library sizes to iphone which is not comparable at all for casual user.
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okay keep limiting yourself to 50GB and be happy with it.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 08:05 PM)
okay keep limiting yourself to 50GB and be happy with it.
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oh i pay less than rm20 per month for these, and got apple music, tv, arcade, fitness+ too
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saved me money from spotify, and apple music is way way better, i got to enjoy hi res music on my pc on my beyerdynamic
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Google one photos better and cheaper.
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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 08:10 PM)
Google one photos better and cheaper.
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Not really. It is not better, and it is not cheaper.
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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 08:10 PM)
Google one photos better and cheaper.
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Uncle read the p&c by google photo…you are given them access right, so that google can continue using your photo for AI training and photo grouping and tagging.

This is not in iPhone. Because they AI is on the chip level only. Not server.
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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 08:10 PM)
Google one photos better and cheaper.
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Imaging u paid to google, yet still u give the access to google to read your photo….
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 08:11 PM)
Not really. It is not better, and it is not cheaper.
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iCloud+ 2TB share up to five people

Meaning 1+5 Family members
Or including myself 1+4 family members
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QUOTE(chupapi_munyayo @ Jun 26 2023, 08:18 PM)
iCloud+ 2TB share up to five people

Meaning 1+5 Family members
Or including myself 1+4 family members
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That refer to google photo
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 26 2023, 08:05 PM)
yeah and by saying need to sub rm40/month for 2TB plan is like kinda wasteful in his intentions. In reality you can sub apple one 200GB plan at rm40/month and then add rm3.9/month to add 50GB to have a total of 250GB, so for rm44 you get 250GB icloud size, apple music, apple tv, apple arcade in one go, way more value.

but biggest value is to share the apple one family 2TB plan, share it out, more ppl the cheaper. i pay less than rm20 per month to share 2TB icloud size... while getting apple music (way better than spotify tbh), apple tv, apple arcade, fitness+)
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so the way to stack your storage plan were to subscribe to both apple one and additional icloud+ subscription, cant be icloud+icloud?
anyway i dont refer to icloud in first place, just normal google drive, but yeah this is icloud thread anyway, so yeah i am wrong.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 08:26 PM)
so the way to stack your storage plan were to subscribe to both apple one and additional icloud+ subscription, cant be icloud+icloud?
anyway i dont refer to icloud in first place, just normal google drive, but yeah this is icloud thread anyway, so yeah i am wrong.
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stacking can only be from different plans, only apple one + icloud+, cos they are the rule maker, following standard pricing as others like google one storage size for the icloud+

btw if wanna share files in cloud drive google is probably better, can easily create links to share via email or something, apple one iinm kinda annoying like i remember very mafan or it pushes to share on idevices or something, no idea now malas check

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 08:14 PM)
Imaging u paid to google, yet still u give the access to google to read your photo….
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I’m unimportant. If google want to see pictures, they can go right ahead.

Privacy not really that big a deal since everyone practically have access to it.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 26 2023, 08:28 PM)
stacking can only be from different plans, only apple one + icloud+, cos they are the rule maker, following standard pricing as others like google one storage size for the icloud+

btw if wanna share files in cloud drive google is probably better, can easily create links to share via email or something, apple one iinm kinda annoying like i remember very mafan or it pushes to share on idevices or something, no idea now malas check
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yup that makes sense, but it make users being forced to subscribe to apple music and apple tv with that approach(thats services are also subjected for premium hike too in the future). anyway we are talking about corporation with the objective to make money anyway, customer cant have what they want.

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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 08:31 PM)
I’m unimportant. If google want to see pictures, they can go right ahead.

Privacy not really that big a deal since everyone practically have access to it.
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Then your statement is misleading. Google is not cheaper and better. It is just you don’t care.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 08:38 PM)
yup that makes sense, but it make users being forced to subscribe to apple music and apple tv with that approach(thats services are also subjected for premium hike too in the future). anyway we are talking about corporation with the objective to make money anyway, customer cant have what they want.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 08:40 PM)
Then your statement is misleading. Google is not cheaper and better. It is just you don’t care.
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iCloud only access from Apple.

Google pretty much can access from any device and you can use your gmail.. It’s better imo.
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Some actresses tried that a few years ago. hmm.gif

Lost access to their account, and many people got to see "The Fappening" (2014) brows.gif

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i don't understand why people keep complaining phone storage not enough. dO YoU GuYs NoT hAve ClOuD SToRaGe?

i keep all my shit on my shitty 2021 128gb iphone with 2TB family icloud subscription (USD9.99 a month). every photo gets uploaded immediately. I never run of of space despite having thousands of full res videos.

and I never worry about losing my phone. if I did lose it, a restored iphone with all my data is in my hand within 2 hours.
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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 08:31 PM)
I’m unimportant. If google want to see pictures, they can go right ahead.

Privacy not really that big a deal since everyone practically have access to it.
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Data inside brain, no icloud
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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 10:06 PM)
iCloud only access from Apple.

Google pretty much can access from any device and you can use your gmail.. It’s better imo.
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Hmmmm….this is very weird statement still…brcause icloud can be access from pc…..but it is okay….

But it didn’t cheaper tho


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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 10:06 PM)
iCloud only access from Apple.

Google pretty much can access from any device and you can use your gmail.. It’s better imo.
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I literally used iCloud via web once on a random person's Windows laptop because I left my phone

But ok
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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 10:06 PM)
iCloud only access from Apple.

Google pretty much can access from any device and you can use your gmail.. It’s better imo.
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Huh? I have icloud installed on my win11 PC.

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 08:42 PM)
Also, there are many ppl buy huge ROM mobile phone. It is higher price, and yet, it will become trouble when they want to transfer to their new mobile. Be it andriod. Transfering 512GB or 1TB from old phone to new phone is a pain.
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Weird reason but you do you.
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jun 26 2023, 10:23 PM)
I literally used iCloud via web once on a random person's Windows laptop because I left my phone

But ok
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Tipu…it need verification unless u verify with your other apple devices
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Huh? I have icloud installed on my win11 PC.

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Can install on android device? Lol
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QUOTE(Roboguru @ Jun 26 2023, 10:54 PM)
Can install on android device? Lol
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Tipu…it need verification unless u verify with your other apple devices
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Looks like you're right now cannot.

But I swear to god I used email verification last time. I'm 100% sure. Maybe I didn't have 2FA activated last time.
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Apple raises iCloud+ 2TB price in Malaysia, Apple One unaffected

https://soyacincau.com/2023/06/28/apple-rai...one-unaffected/
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price rise in icloud 2tb, incoming to apple one maybe gg
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after u do this > next if whole family change android is a nightmare

cloud cant move to android

ur apple photo not on apple phone storage > all on cloud

when u wan change to android and transfer using clone apps > photo show ntg
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jun 28 2023, 11:12 AM)
Apple raises iCloud+ 2TB price in Malaysia, Apple One unaffected

https://soyacincau.com/2023/06/28/apple-rai...one-unaffected/
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Apple One already kena in late 2022. Paying RM39.90 per mth now for family plan.
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QUOTE(iSmart @ Jun 28 2023, 11:50 AM)
after u do this > next if whole family change android is a nightmare

cloud cant move to android

ur apple photo not on apple phone storage > all on cloud

when u wan change to android and transfer using clone apps > photo show ntg
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Haha, ecosystem lock in guise of convenience

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QUOTE(iSmart @ Jun 28 2023, 11:50 AM)
after u do this > next if whole family change android is a nightmare

cloud cant move to android

ur apple photo not on apple phone storage > all on cloud

when u wan change to android and transfer using clone apps > photo show ntg
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we talk about now, not future. you at least have back ups on icloud which you can obtain later and transfer to wherever you want. if you don't get icloud, no back ups at all. then you buy a larger phone (1TB memory enough?). if lose how?
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QUOTE(iSmart @ Jun 28 2023, 11:50 AM)
after u do this > next if whole family change android is a nightmare

cloud cant move to android

ur apple photo not on apple phone storage > all on cloud

when u wan change to android and transfer using clone apps > photo show ntg
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Yes, iCloud is only good if you go all in. Have a mixture of androids and iphones? Yer screwed.

Friends on android, hmm maybe get new friends. Or use Whatsapp.
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I subs to two and using 64gb ip
- 50gb from icloud 3.90
-200gb from google one 11.90

Its a good run.
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QUOTE(ridox_orimabu @ Jun 28 2023, 12:54 PM)
I subs to two and using 64gb ip
- 50gb from icloud 3.90
-200gb from google one 11.90

Its a good run.
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onedrive 6tb only costs rm340 only for 15 months. it's just rm22.67 or usd4.85 monthly. freaking 6tb storage for 6 users, free office365 too!

sos: https://shp.ee/8j424jw
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QUOTE(xswatch @ Jul 1 2023, 10:23 PM)
onedrive 6tb only costs rm340 only for 15 months. it's just rm22.67 or usd4.85 monthly. freaking 6tb storage for 6 users, free office365 too!

sos: https://shp.ee/8j424jw
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This is highly suspicious. You’re dealing with important files. I wouldn’t buy from a 3rd party
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jul 1 2023, 10:38 PM)
This is highly suspicious. You’re dealing with important files. I wouldn’t buy from a 3rd party
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what suspicious 3rd party? it's sold by lotus (previously known as Tesco). not some unknown 3rd party seller la. I've been renewing my office365 which I bought from lotus (either their official shopee / lazada) since 5 years ago. never had any issue at all. this is as legit as u can get.
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QUOTE(xswatch @ Jul 1 2023, 10:23 PM)
onedrive 6tb only costs rm340 only for 15 months. it's just rm22.67 or usd4.85 monthly. freaking 6tb storage for 6 users, free office365 too!

sos: https://shp.ee/8j424jw
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Wah not bad good deal

 

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