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 Protip - just buy icloud for your iphone, never lose data. 64gb phone also enough

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Purpleheaven
post Jun 26 2023, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 25 2023, 07:52 PM)
3.90 a month for 50gb. The cheapest storage that Apple sells.
My ipong is 128gb and it is not even half filled after almost 2 years.
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Well, your usage is totally different from TS then.

TS usage, even if get 1TB phone also not enough, 3.90 a month 50gb plan is basically negligible.
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post Jun 26 2023, 02:34 PM

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I was not looking for a 64gb iphone, but one was offered to me at harvey norman for rm800 (display unit 12 mini) , cant say no

using the 200gb cloud for rm12 a month, been good so far
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post Jun 26 2023, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Yung_Psyke @ Jun 26 2023, 02:34 PM)
I was not looking for a 64gb iphone, but one was offered to me at harvey norman for rm800 (display unit 12 mini) , cant say no

using the 200gb cloud for rm12 a month, been good so far
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Exactly. But sometimes also depending on some app size you use. If you’re a gamer, some apps cannot go onto the cloud. E.g. genshin impact’s size is like 30gb? So maybe install one or two more heavy games. Your phone is full. The OS itself also takes up like 15gb.

For me I don’t play any games so my iPad 64gb also enough.. only store some PDFs and view iCloud videos. This isn’t possible without iCloud.

But some people is like walao.. 256gb memory? Not enough.. these people sure don’t know what’s iCloud or other cloud storage

This post has been edited by tolongking: Jun 26 2023, 02:47 PM
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post Jun 26 2023, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 25 2023, 07:46 PM)
i share with 3 family members. the alternative to insufficient memory is buying a large phone but it's not safe (lose your phone, lose your data) and also cumbersome to backup every day.

not wise also.. if you have kids and take videos everyday, 1TB phone also not enough. cloud storage basically unlimited.
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You try to kick out your kids and wife as family members in iCloud and ask them to sub themselves.
Then you will get the answer why people don't want to sub iCloud.
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post Jun 26 2023, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:42 PM)
Google is good for file back up, from your pc to google drive etc.

But for photo…google photo is not the best…better use iPhone photo to manage your pictures

And yet, even you pay for google drive/photo, google still claim the right of use your photo.
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icloud is one to one copy of your gallery...

google photo you can purge the picture from your phone while maintaining the picture on the cloud...

and I beg to differ on the ownership.. google doesn't own my photo on my google photos... same goes to icloud...


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post Jun 26 2023, 03:11 PM

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My iCloud photos and videos 30+GB, I mirror it to my iPhone 13 and iPhone 6s (that I use as bike computer when go out cycling). Optimise mode for photos only saves thumbnail, it currently only used 200MB on my iphone6s 32GB. by viewing it the phone will download the full resolution version off the icloud. the photos are half the size of jpeg versions too since it is using another more efficient codec. Nicest thing is if I took photo with my iPhone 6s, after it sync on wifi at home my iphone 13 will have the photo too and vice versa.

My iCloud is cheap because shared across family one plan, like less than rm20 per month with shared 2TB iCloud, Apple Music app (which is I think the best catalogue and sound quality atm-you get uncompressed cd quality as well as hi res for free, Apple TV, fitness subscription, Apple Arcade all included). Accessible to pc too

But the best thing on iCloud backup is you can lose your phone and just get another iPhone, login your userid and everything will be restored exactly like your lost iPhone, down to the volume level you set for every sound settings, even custom aac sound clip ringtones you I made myself and inserted into the iPhone is restored as is.

i also forgot to mention even old ass phone like the iphone 6s, it still receives critical ios updates until now

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jun 26 2023, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 01:50 PM)
never realized i will be switching to SSD for external mass-storage usage so soon.  biggrin.gif
but anyway cloud storage lovers will said flash storage will rosak too, meanwhile i still have microsd that i used for r4 flashcart from year 2008 that is still working  laugh.gif turn on my old ds now, oh wait it still working. i dont know where are this replacing your disk every 2-3 years came from? its true that the disk will be less reliable over time, thats why we have multiple copy of those disk on separate disk.
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Different level of usage. For a single user, what you describe is ok. What we had was something intended for the whole family to use. 24-7 network attached storage.

And solid state storage is not bulletproof. It is good for write once read many. Not good for constant rewrites. Again, it depends on your use case.

Not sure if mechanical hard disks are that much more reliable nowadays. Good if they are.
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post Jun 26 2023, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jun 25 2023, 07:46 PM)
Yeah, paid for one drive, but how to setup
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Haha paid for one drive 1tb and iCloud for 200gb

Apple eco system can't work well with one drive.
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QUOTE(billy3336 @ Jun 26 2023, 02:18 PM)
that's what TS was arguing about, why need more internals storage when u can get subscription clouds

and i state the downside of it

should just buy minimum 256gb and called it a day, it's just comfortable enough
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That’s for you though. Everyone’s need differs. I’m also on family plan and some of us have exceeded the local storage.
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post Jun 26 2023, 03:29 PM

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if paying it is no pro tip la
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post Jun 26 2023, 03:29 PM

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subscribed to one drive with 1tb, I accessed and uploaded my files with my iphone
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QUOTE(cangkui @ Jun 26 2023, 02:46 PM)
icloud is one to one copy of your gallery...

google photo you can purge the picture from your phone while maintaining the picture on the cloud...

and I beg to differ on the ownership.. google doesn't own my photo on my google photos... same goes to icloud...
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you can check google P&C statement about your photo yea....

google photo is bad because you need more steps to delete it from your google photo....with that you will continue piling up the cloud storage....

however, apple photo is much more like the lightroom.....you can manage it, export it, delete it much easier
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 03:17 PM)
Different level of usage. For a single user, what you describe is ok. What we had was something intended for the whole family to use. 24-7 network attached storage.

And solid state storage is not bulletproof. It is good for write once read many. Not good for constant rewrites. Again, it depends on your use case.

Not sure if mechanical hard disks are that much more reliable nowadays. Good if they are.
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thats your only assumption, my 512GB transcend ssd370s from year 2015 are purely used as seedbox/torrent transit storage, previously containing OS. disk health were around ~95% (lazy to check but within that figures). also what constant write are you talking about with cloud storage? you are not going to do content creation task on that cloud storage directly, most likely you need to store those content on your machine first as files before transferring to the cloud storage. can you use google drive as torrent storage, you cant right? even if you can, the latency will be way too high to write something there.
the main reason why phone manufacturer nowadays give 256gb or more storage were to allow users to be less dependence to network storage. you can always whatever auto-sync feature, but it will read/write on the device storage first.

problem with cloud storage pricing were it didnt give much flexibility, if i need to store 201GB of data, i am forced to subscribe for more expensive 2TB plan, there is nothing in the middle(500GB or 1TB plan). how about pricing for anything higher than that? yes it is convenience, but you need to pay a freaking premium for it.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 04:00 PM)
thats your only assumption, my 512GB transcend ssd370s from year 2015 are purely used as seedbox/torrent transit storage, previously containing OS. disk health were around ~95% (lazy to check but within that figures). also what constant write are you talking about with cloud storage? you are not going to do content creation task on that cloud storage directly, most likely you need to store those content on your machine first as files before transferring to the cloud storage. can you use google drive as torrent storage, you cant right? even if you can, the latency will be way too high to write something there.
the main reason why phone manufacturer nowadays give 256gb or more storage were to allow users to be less dependence to network storage. you can always whatever auto-sync feature, but it will read/write on the device storage first.

problem with cloud storage pricing were it didnt give much flexibility, if i need to store 201GB of data, i am forced to subscribe for more expensive 2TB plan, there is nothing in the middle(500GB or 1TB plan). how about pricing for anything higher than that? yes it is convenience, but you need to pay a freaking premium for it.
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unless you specifically upload big files onto the cloud storage, i use for like 10 years also my icloud storage usage haven't exceeded 50GB now. or do you take photos and videos alot everyday?

for your info, the normal codec for saving images on iphone is HEIF and 12megapixels, it ranges from 1-3MB per photo, very little. The only big size image file is ProRAW on iphone 13 pro & 14 pro, with 14 pro's 12mp proraw at ~25MB and 48mp at ~75MB. That's around the same size as RAW files captured on dlsr

plus if you need over 200GB icloud data it's more worth to get the apple one family plan at rm78.9/month and share it with other ppl. so around rm15-17 per person for sharing 2TB icloud, apple music, apple tv, apple arcade, fitness+ all in one. Other people cannot see your icloud files unless you share it out

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jun 26 2023, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 26 2023, 04:00 PM)
thats your only assumption, my 512GB transcend ssd370s from year 2015 are purely used as seedbox/torrent transit storage, previously containing OS. disk health were around ~95% (lazy to check but within that figures). also what constant write are you talking about with cloud storage? you are not going to do content creation task on that cloud storage directly, most likely you need to store those content on your machine first as files before transferring to the cloud storage. can you use google drive as torrent storage, you cant right? even if you can, the latency will be way too high to write something there.
the main reason why phone manufacturer nowadays give 256gb or more storage were to allow users to be less dependence to network storage. you can always whatever auto-sync feature, but it will read/write on the device storage first.

problem with cloud storage pricing were it didnt give much flexibility, if i need to store 201GB of data, i am forced to subscribe for more expensive 2TB plan, there is nothing in the middle(500GB or 1TB plan). how about pricing for anything higher than that? yes it is convenience, but you need to pay a freaking premium for it.
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Normally large video files are the main culprits. That and some simulation data files. I also tried an sd card for transit storage when downloading files too. Died within a year. Write is the problem, read when you are seeding is usually ok.

Maybe not advisable to rely on disk health numbers, from my experience solid state drives die abruptly. For mechanical hard disks, you still have hope of slowly copying some files out when you see trouble signs. Not sure about new improvements nowadays.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 04:17 PM)
Normally large video files are the main culprits. That and some simulation data files. I also tried an sd card for transit storage when downloading files too. Died within a year. Write is the problem, read when you are seeding is usually ok.

Maybe not advisable to rely on disk health numbers, from my experience solid state drives die abruptly. For mechanical hard disks, you still have hope of slowly copying some files out when you see trouble signs. Not sure about new improvements nowadays.
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if alot read and write buy better quality ssd drives, you can use crystaldiskinfo to see how much data read/write total and total ssd health. Most quality ssd have manufacturer rated total data writes stated iinm
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I use Microsoft for email
Google for maps, YouTube and Gphoto
Android phone
But MacOS

So tell me
Should I go Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive or iCloud
Or just offline storage on HDD/SSD that I just bought on Shitpee

I really headache when comes to these

This post has been edited by chupapi_munyayo: Jun 26 2023, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jun 26 2023, 12:42 PM)
Google is good for file back up, from your pc to google drive etc.

But for photo…google photo is not the best…better use iPhone photo to manage your pictures

And yet, even you pay for google drive/photo, google still claim the right of use your photo.
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ini betul. they deleted my photo before without notice.

so back to physical storage i went.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 26 2023, 04:17 PM)
Normally large video files are the main culprits. That and some simulation data files. I also tried an sd card for transit storage when downloading files too. Died within a year. Write is the problem, read when you are seeding is usually ok.

Maybe not advisable to rely on disk health numbers, from my experience solid state drives die abruptly. For mechanical hard disks, you still have hope of slowly copying some files out when you see trouble signs. Not sure about new improvements nowadays.
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to deal with QLC nand chip, you need to buy high storage wan. TLC nand chip are available on high-endurance sd card, that will allow more rewrite on those SDs.

if your SSD keep dying, it is mostly because of power delivery issue, are you using good power supply, do you even use AVR? we only depend on disk health for disk endurance reason (highest number of rewrite on nand sector and total nand write) not the health of electronic component (capacitors,resistors etc), the only SSD that have failed me were crucial m4, but that because of firmware issue (which is patch-able)
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QUOTE(chupapi_munyayo @ Jun 26 2023, 04:31 PM)
I use Microsoft for email
Google for maps, YouTube and Gphoto
Android phone
But MacOS

So tell me
Should I go Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive or iCloud
Or just offline storage on HDD/SSD that I just bought on Shitpee

I really headache when comes to these
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Cloud storage is most useful for sharing. If you are just looking at cross platform access to your files, I would go with Google Drive because of your android phone. There are Google Drive desktop clients for MacOS.

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