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TSBoy96
post Jun 19 2023, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(noos @ Jun 19 2023, 04:59 PM)
Off topic a bit....
U heard any news when BYD Seal is going to launch in Malaysia?
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Thailand gonna launch first, so expect end of year or early next year
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post Jun 19 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(williamtan2020 @ Jun 19 2023, 05:02 PM)
How do you rate the StopNGo 0-10 and what can be improved?
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I think i need to install the kommuassist system, so that can enable totally hands off driving without the continuous put both hands on steering wheel alarm

Definitely not as refined as Tesla autopilot lah
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post Jun 19 2023, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 19 2023, 05:22 PM)
How is the handling? Can throw into the corner or not?
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SUV la brader, some more china SUV without lotus handling tuning, memang not made to throw in corner

QUOTE(dudester @ Jun 19 2023, 05:23 PM)
Thanks TS, for the honest feedback.
When I viewed the Ora Goodcat, I could not accept the plasticky interior, would say china is very good at mouding.
Based on your past experience with Suprema, Fiesta and even BMW, how would you rate the build quality of the BYD interior? any potential in rattling noise?
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Time will tell, but from what i feel is very solid, much better than Tesla. Maybe can say even better than BMW as no one in the owners group reported of any rattling noise compared to new bmw group

QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 19 2023, 05:27 PM)
Boy96 I see you as car enthusiast, high tech features aside, will the driver feels like boring and missed driving those muscular Inline 6 higher CC car?
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Yes if u drive this BYD, its meant as a commuter car anyways, but no if u drive the Lotus Eletre, Tesla Plaid or Taycan Turbo S

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post Jun 19 2023, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jun 19 2023, 05:47 PM)
battery is sodium ion?
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lithium iron phosphate
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post Jun 19 2023, 08:40 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/myevoc/perm...mibextid=Nif5oz

Tip for someone buying an EV, make sure you get an EV with 400v or better yet 800v architecture,

See this BMW iX1, cannot get the claimed 130kW charging speed from fast chargers in Malaysia due to it being fitted with an odd 350v architecture

Also dont get Japan spec EV car because their connector is different than the rest of the world

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post Jun 19 2023, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(blek @ Jun 19 2023, 09:49 PM)
Is there power bank like for EV? Like a portable battery you can charge or  sawp when emergency.
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Yes theres a pilot project for this sort of thing



But you might never use it lah. Even if u somehow manage to drain all the battery, just call your insurance towtruck for a free tow back to your house or to a nearest fast charger
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post Jun 20 2023, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Jun 20 2023, 10:37 AM)
TS know how to locate free EV chargers across entire MY?
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Plugshare app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...atori.Plugshare


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post Jun 20 2023, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Jun 20 2023, 12:56 PM)
Thanks.
Looks like very limited points for free charging without stay in the hotel or parl in the hotel.

Renault Zoe by Comos can use 3 pin AC charging?
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Can if they provide the 3 pin charger for you.

There is actually 3 locations that I know of that gives free DC fast charging, although there might be a queue to charge

https://www.plugshare.com/location/131325

https://www.plugshare.com/location/405957

https://www.plugshare.com/location/360648
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post Jun 20 2023, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(s-works @ Jun 20 2023, 01:42 PM)
your suprima got issue or not last time?
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Plenty of issue from transmission to fueling/ engine. One of the reason i want to go ev.

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post Jun 21 2023, 11:52 AM

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A note from my wallbox installer, Alvin, regarding safe charging.


Before you decide to install your charger make sure you find out the cables sizes for your home:

1. Cable size from TNB to Fuse
2. Cable size from Fuse to Meter
3. Cable size from Meter to DB

These Cable sizes affects what is the size of Fuse you can/should be using

16mm2 = max 32A Fuse
25mm2 = max 63A Fuse
35mm2 = max 100A Fuse

Try not to let unlicensed electricians or unqualified technicians to blindly talk you into just changing into a bigger size Fuse just to prevent Fuse blowing ok?

The Fuse is SUPPOSED TO BLOW before the circuits exceeds their maximum carrying capacity. It's a protection mechanism. Using a bigger Fuse that is greater than your home circuit's maximum current carrying capacity defeats the purpose of the Fuse and increasing the risk of fire caused by melting/burning wires.

Pls ask if any clarifications are needed.
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post Jul 3 2023, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Jul 3 2023, 02:15 AM)
Hi TS,

Thank you for this thread. Appreciate if you can answer the below:


FYI I am planning to change my car to EV sometime next year, waiting for BYD Seal, Tesla 3 and Volvo EX30.

Again sorry for so many questions, I am from JB and no legit showroom here yet for me to ask the sales people.
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1. You mentioned can remote start the car via app. So the car comes with free sim and data? For how long? eg Proton X70 comes with free 3 or 5 years I think.

- 2GB of data every month, not sure until how long it will be free, will have to check later

2. For connectivity, can you use your phone internet via wireless connection for car data connectivity? Since car sim data might costs money once free period over.

- yes

3. For insurance, is it like insuring normal ICE car to include flood? I fear for the battery if there's incident of flood. BTW does the battery warranty include this? ie water leaked into it and spoil it.

- Insurance is normal like all other cars, and their panel also will include special perils for the first year

4. For the battery warranty of 8 years, does it cover degration? If so what's the % if you know.

Refer here for warranty clause

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5. Did you tint the car? I mean would it be hot driving under hot sun? I plan to buy the cover and use only when parking under hot sun.

- Good tint is compulsory for this car, especially on the panoramic sunroof as the shade for the roof is not thick enough to fully block the heat

6. Your BYD supports Android Auto or Apple carplay now?

- Apple Carplay is supported over wire, Android Auto wireless support is coming. But I dont use any of these, because the screen itself is an android tablet, so I hacked it to install all the available apps on Google Play Store

7. Does your car come with different charger head?

- Not sure what this question means, but it comes with 3-pin charging adapter and a V2L socket

8. BYD Atto 3 comes with built in dashcam right? Front and back?

- Yes, but front only, and it doesn't record audio

9. I find the yearly servicing a bit redundant considering Tesla does not require it. Seems like the local dealers' way to make more money. If we skip the servicing, will it void the warranty?

- Unfortunately yes


10. Lastly can your BYD car use Tesla charging station when it is built in the future?

- Tesla shares the same charging port connector, however its up to Tesla to allow or disallow other brands of EV to charge at their stations. Malaysia government has already setup a rule for Tesla to open a certain percentage (no need all) of their Tesla charging stations for other brands EV.


And BYD has open showroom and service at Johor



Showroom
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SNGjgMc4y7p8e2gs6

Service
https://maps.app.goo.gl/dYRjYUNKcCdVfcJN7

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post Jul 3 2023, 11:23 PM

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Real world energy consumption

Trying out 𝐅𝐮𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐮𝐥𝐥 charging method.

Arrived home at exactly 50% SOC. Had reset the trip computer previously when it was charged fully. At 50% battery, the car had travelled 164.5 km.

Condition

- 100% City drive
- Aircon in comfort mode, temperature set to 24°C and fan speed at 2-3
- Regen mode in Standard, Driving mode Normal
- Tyre pressure set to recommended 260kPa cold
- Drive like setan like I usually do on my petrol car

Upon full charge back to 100%, wallbox app indicates that the car had taken in 𝟑𝟓.𝟒𝟖 𝐤𝐖𝐡 .

164.5km ÷ 35.48 kWh = 4.636 km/kWh = 𝟐𝟏.𝟓𝟕 𝐤𝐖𝐡/𝟏𝟎𝟎𝐤𝐦.

Due to energy loss during charging, hence why the BYD screen only shows 15.5kWh/100km. But cost wise, its better to calculate based on the full to full method since this is the amount we pay towards our TNB bill.

If calculated in comparison to rm2.05 ron95 fuel, this is equivalent to 6 liters/100km or 16.6 KM/L.

Unrelated Fun Fact: ChatGPT/Google Bard mentions that in 1 Liter of Petrol is roughly energy equivalent to 9 kWh of electricity . So to achieve a price parity of RM2.05/Liter, your electricity price should be RM0.23/kWh

Conclusion: Just plug and charge, no need to worry about all these calculation lah 😅

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post Jul 11 2023, 11:20 AM

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My home electricity bill actually drop for this month compared to last month despite charging the car more

The only difference i did was changing one of the room aircond to inverter type

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post Jul 11 2023, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 11 2023, 12:27 PM)

If calculated in comparison to rm2.05 ron95 fuel, this is equivalent to 6 liters/100km or 16.6 KM/L.


If install solar roof panels, lagi worth it.

However , an equivalent Jepunis car can get 10-15km/L without all the hassle of range anxiety and cost of installing 3 phase electrical wiring and wallbox. That's why EV for now remains out of the mind of many people.
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But thats due to my driving style, even driving a regular small hatchback petrol car i struggle to get above 9 km/l, the left and middle lane is just not for me sweat.gif
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QUOTE(blek @ Jul 11 2023, 12:36 PM)
If car break down road side cannot start and totally out of battery. How to engage neutral gear for tow truck?
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It has a 12v battery like normal car, can jumpstart and put the gear to neutral
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post Jul 12 2023, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Jul 12 2023, 09:00 AM)
24deg AC - isn’t that sort of like blowing lukewarm air?
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Nope, now i even set the ac to 25°c as its very cold at 24°c. Different cars have different coldness level despite what the temperature reading is

For conti cars i have to set the AC at 21°c to match the coldness of asian cars ac at 24°c
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post Jul 31 2023, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(janszmatt @ Jul 31 2023, 08:34 PM)
I have a preve
I love my preve as much as you love your suprima

But we both know they’re are aging vehicles and you have sold off yours and I plan to sell off mine soon

Is an atto a good replacement for the performance we had?

Did you consider an x50? Because I am considering x50 due to the fact I need to travel to East Coast and the perkampungan at West Coast occasionally (balik kampung)

As of now, there is no price that can match the performance of a suprima
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Yup back in 2020 i did consider the x50. But the wait times back then was too long.. It feels abit smaller in space compared to the suprima though
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QUOTE(ieatchickens @ Jul 31 2023, 10:46 PM)
do you often check the battery cooling loop, is the coolant proprietory ?

is it hackable ?

are the terms "trust me bro" or else "warranty voided lolol" for the loop ?

motor moving parts, how are the prices ?
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Those things are best left to be checked at the SC during the periodic service visit
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post Aug 1 2023, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Aug 1 2023, 12:39 AM)
U using 3 pin charging also right? The portable charger come with the car or buy separately? What is the charging speed?
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No i dont use the 3pin charger. I use the home wallbox.

The 3pin charger comes with the car and it would charge at a maximum amount of 10amps or 1.9kW
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QUOTE(pwncake @ Aug 1 2023, 12:47 AM)
For once got a useful tered in /k/

Thank you OP

Are you planning to keep the car beyond the warranty period? You sound like a man / woman of means, so perhaps resale value is less of a concern to you, but would there be sufficient after sales support after the warranty period?
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We will see how. Usually my family keeps our cars for 9-11 years. By then sure alot of outside specialist mechanic

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