i am wondering how they are capturing POW when they are being pushed back...
like under constant assault, any defenders while facing a barrage, taking POW is the last thing on the mind probably.

If even The Telegraph is saying this I think we can pack it up, guys

One has videos and photo evidence, while the other does not. Which scenario fits better?

Seems funny Ukraine is readily believing russian sources now. The source for that pro-ukraine post literally has a Russian Z on it.




This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 18 2023, 06:23 PM

next time send jets to counter KA-52 Alligator Attack Heli

This post has been edited by kel32: Jun 18 2023, 06:21 PM

Means escalation incoming?

you mean OSINTDEFENDER?
that one is not pro ukrainian and many in the comments bashing it so for being pro russians lol

by the way, i wouldn't be so fast to trust russian sources as they have, proven in many many times, doctored images, put fake videos, over imposed images or vidoes, claim fake death of Ukrainian leadership, claim to have destroy more things than Ukrainian military have.

i would also say that Ukrainian sources also done some same similar but not so blatantly like the russia media did.

i mean if it makes you happy for trusting so or just want to promote russia success though such method, by all means. 🕊️

You warn about not trusting Russian source yet the guy whose tweet you quoted about is literally sourcing his tweet from a Russian source.

Suddenly like "This Russian source has nothing to gain from not telling the truth about this particular matter, but any other time it's all just Russian misinformation tho".

please kindly read.
what i mean is to give it a thought first.

I wonder if that guy you quoted gave a thought first or not when he tweeted something totally based on a russian source tho

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 18 2023, 07:39 PM

probably did because regarding that town situation, it has been posted across both sides confirming what is happening there.

This post has been edited by ycs: Jun 18 2023, 08:59 PM

Lol!! Awesome... Maybe can send in 10000 tanks and 500,000 men... Confirm can win.

Who cares... The problem is that the world already knows that the counteroffensive is not achieving the desired result... basically a failure. Ukraine is losing men and equipment...

Regardless of who post all the information, it's a known fact.

Unless the west keeps throwing weapons into Ukraine, there is no way Ukraine can win. Everyone knows that... Now the problem is that Europe is facing a recession and no more money. Only USA can do that..... But USA isn't keen to let Ukraine win. USA only wants to prolong the war.

when F-16?

This is literally what most pro-russian channels said the plan is:

- Delay Ukaine forces with a fighting retreat
- Lure Ukraine forces into fixed positions
- Bombard those positions by artillery and air strikes to inflict casualties
- Counterattack if possible to push Ukraine forces back and force them to repeat step 1-3
- Weaken and attrit the Ukraine forces as much as possible before they reach the Russian defence lines

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 19 2023, 09:48 AM

Have to remember now is still the reconnaissance/screening part of the offensive.

I have no doubt the Russians fully expected the Ukrainian forces to eventually reach the defence lines, the question is in what condition the Ukrainian forces will be once they reached it.

Russian engineers packed a T-55 with six tons tof explosives and remotely drove it towards Ukrainian positions. The VBIED didn't quite make it to the Ukrainian lines but probably still did a lot of damage.

Detonation at 1:00

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 19 2023, 10:29 AM

even if they manage to stop it, its too near.
the shockwave may have generate some concussion or damage ear drums.