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News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines

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post Jul 17 2023, 11:41 AM

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i am more interested in what actually hit the bridge and/or how many of it was used.
as i remember last time, there was air defense, barge with reflectors, and some other defensive elements.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 17 2023, 11:36 AM)
That's a pretty far alternate overland route tho
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post Jul 17 2023, 11:48 AM

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Ukrainian conscript complains that his issued combat helmet smells like a dead body and there are already bullet impacts on it

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post Jul 17 2023, 11:51 AM

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this mortar unit apparently has a range of 9KM using standard munition.
the Ukrainian drone... must be at least a few KM deep or more...


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post Jul 17 2023, 11:51 AM

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Allegedly Ukrainian helmets and combat gear stripped from surrendered Ukrainian soldiers in a single incident

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post Jul 17 2023, 11:54 AM

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another high ranking russian officer bites the dust


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post Jul 17 2023, 11:56 AM

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With today's shenanigans by Ukraine, I highly doubt it will be continued

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finally we get to see some navy vs navy action then.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 17 2023, 11:56 AM)
With today's shenanigans by Ukraine, I highly doubt it will be continued

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 17 2023, 11:57 AM)
finally we get to see some navy vs navy action then.
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IMO Tu-22M will get first dibs on any naval action tho
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it would be interested to see how these will fare against the S400 air defense that turkey acquired in 2019 on top of other range air defense that their ships has.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 17 2023, 12:02 PM)
IMO Tu-22M will get first dibs on any naval action tho
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 17 2023, 11:51 AM)
this mortar unit apparently has a range of 9KM using standard munition.
the Ukrainian drone... must be at least a few KM deep or more...


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this is why drones are damn effective

>smol af kenot easily detect by conventional radars
>extremely good as loitering munition/recon device
>CHEAP
>can further evolve into other roles
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 17 2023, 12:05 PM)
it would be interested to see how these will fare against the S400 air defense that turkey acquired in 2019 on top of other range air defense that their ships has.
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These are long-range missile carriers, any air defence systems will have to deal with the missiles they launch & not the launchers themselves. The launch zones would probably be far beyond air defence range.
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They've gone and done it......

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post Jul 17 2023, 12:20 PM

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more complains from russian soldiers.

"Hello. We’re the mobilised from the 85th Brigade. Together with us are also contractors whose contracts ran out, but they’re still fighting here with us, now for 10-11 months.

We’d like to say that during all this time, we’ve been mobilised for 7-8 months, we always unconditionally completed all orders at fronts near Kreminna and Belohirivka, without fear.

But now, we’ve been thrown to Bahkmut to unprepared unmined positions, with a drunk company commander who led us to these positions. We didn’t reach them, we were shelled with tanks, mortars, Polish missiles.

We came to the company commander and explained that we won’t pass there. We came across employees of PMC “Hurricane” who were leaving those positions, they were the first with losses.

They explained to us that we’re simply suiciders, we won’t pass there. To which the company commander said we needed to complete the order. But as we’re the mobilised, not stormtroopers or spetsnaz, without ammo, without food, without evacuation, without vehicles, we were thrown in like stormtroopers.

We refused, only laying down weapons by the order of the Brigade commander, under threats of shooting, accused of betrayal, and threatened with imprisonment.

We didn’t reach those positions. We are now sat in Svetlodarsk, in some strange building. But as they didn’t take away our phones, we’re trying to record a video for our relatives who could help us.

We do not refuse to fight, we can take weapons again, but not in this direction, and not in the first line of defence. As I already said, we always followed our orders without being afraid, under mortar and enemy bullets.

But now, after this time, we’re simply defeated psychologically by our command. We don’t even have medals for the SMO, we were not given any payments. By the way, our salaries come late and not in full.

There’s no rotation, no rest provided to us. So that’s what it is. And we’re now accused of betrayal and cowardice forgetting about our previous achievements.

We were sent there without artillery and aviation support which are unable to suppress the enemy fire. We came under shelling, and after all that happened, the commander, answering why our artillery and aviation were silent, said there’s no ammo - “Go die an honourable death”.

But we’re not suiciders, we’re simple mobilised, workmen, just like anyone else.

We were called P.O.W.s and threatened with killing, threatened to be sent to Storm units containing unprepared people, or sent back to the zero line. But we’re simply afraid that our commanders will shoot us there.

We do not refuse to serve and complete combat tasks, just not in this direction, not on the first line, and not with these commanders."



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post Jul 17 2023, 12:26 PM

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supposedly the Ukrainian tank M-55S which was damaged/destroyed is moving fine.


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So right now which country's psychops is leading?
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post Jul 17 2023, 12:55 PM

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malaysia.

QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Jul 17 2023, 12:48 PM)
So right now which country's psychops is leading?
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that weird +1 that don't usually see on the daily report...



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